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1/4 finals 07/07 16:00 Sweden v England

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  • #16
    Originally posted by MarianoV6 View Post
    This is it i believe for England. This is the only game that matters most of all, more than the previous one against Colombia, more than the next one against Croatia or Russia, even more than the final. It is time for the boys to become men and play against men. Against a team that is tough, a team that doesn't have any important missing as far as i know, a team that it is more thirsty than any other team i believe (regarding history, size of nation, big names, etc etc) and against a team that is starting to believe at the miracle which is a hell of a motive and they will give a hell of a fight for that.

    I saw England being tactically perfect against Colombia at the start of the game but the luck of experience made them lose the "chemistry" at some point, the balance on their line. After some point, it looked more like each player was trying to do something extra, with the mug Sterling to be the "captain" at this. It will depend if they have learn their lesson from that, but i think we will see England once again at the start very good tactically and very disciplined. And it will be very difficult for Sweden to create a chance at the first minutes. The experience of the Swedish tho will balance the game at some point.

    This game will depend a lot from the line ups and it goes for both team. For example, i think Toivonen is not needed from the start at this game. He will be slow and will not offer much. England has a good pace and they will have control of the game, so Toivonen will likely being wasted and get tired for nothing. After all, Berg can work better together with one fast player next to him in the attack with him being the main force. Berg and Forsberg can work good together i believe. On the other hand, England need finally to drop Sterling and start with Rashford. My opinion is that Rashford is simple much more mature than Sterling and is better in a lot of things which England will require here (body type, long shot, cooperation in the attack with other players - cause Sterling is way too much selfish). Sterling may be fast but he is very small and he will find a big wall against him from Swedish defense (regarding height and space).

    Anyway, we will see when time comes, still a lot of things in my mind regarding the tactical approach from both sides.
    I can't see Toivonen being dropped, yes he is slow but he at least big and physical creating a good target if Sweden go long or at FK/CK. To this point he has played all games and the coach has managed to work him into their defensive schemes despite his slowness. Removing him would mean Berg would have to play a lot of the time alone up against England's 3 CB's which would reduce even further the few chances Sweden create when in possession.

    What did Sterling do to you? haha You really don't like him, hey!? I actually have the complete opposite view of him and thought he played really well against Colombia, constantly dropping into midfield in tandem with Kane to offer options to England's 3 CB's. He made some nice turns as well and with a bit better composure, which he has showed this season for Man City, maybe could have had a goal or SOT. When he was substituted late in the game for Vardy you could see the impact it had on England as they struggled badly in the 1st half of ET and couldn't get much going up front with Kane isolated and with Vardy lacking the work rate or technique to do what Sterling does. I do however agree that Rashford deserves to start but I'd be more inclined to replace Lingard with him as while Mourinho has brought Lingard on in his development as a player this season he is still very limited and you could see when he got into dangerous positions his technique really let him down. If Delle Alli is out we could see some changes but it may be more negative with Southgate choosing to use Loftus Cheek - very physical player, but slow and poor technically. Rashford is pure attacker and can't provide passing options that Sterling does, sorry man, but no way Southgate drops him.

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    • #17
      Yea "could have had" thats the story with Sterling. And i get the fact that he is important to the system, because England offensivelly is about constant movement and swaping positions of front 3 or 4 cause sometimes even Kane dropps to help the build-up, but boy he has zero achievement in i dont know how many games. Its not only Mariano, many english fans just dont like him because he just wastes attack after attack without creating any real danger. I believe his day will come when he will finally break this negative trend but Rashford should have taken his place long time ago, he deserves it. But thats just fan views, obviously Southgate knows better and has his reasons for backing him.
      My country is the world...and my religion is to do good.

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      • #18
        Originally posted by sirac View Post
        Yea "could have had" thats the story with Sterling. And i get the fact that he is important to the system, because England offensivelly is about constant movement and swaping positions of front 3 or 4 cause sometimes even Kane dropps to help the build-up, but boy he has zero achievement in i dont know how many games. Its not only Mariano, many english fans just dont like him because he just wastes attack after attack without creating any real danger. I believe his day will come when he will finally break this negative trend but Rashford should have taken his place long time ago, he deserves it. But thats just fan views, obviously Southgate knows better and has his reasons for backing him.
        I would love to know what England fans think about Delle Alli and Lingard's performances so far? No way Sterling deserves more criticism.

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        • #19
          england used their ever set pieces mastering vs colombians .. im not sure that would help them vs solid as rock swedes that have teh benefit of being way above their - on paper - level and have nothing to lose ....

          3 lions were quite lucky vs colombia on pks ... and showed bit of lack of bottle receiving last second .... maybe another surpirse !?

          another one that is set for low scoring no doubt ... 0-0 !?
          ...but then again, who does?

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          • #20
            Sweden have a solid defense but upfront they don't pose much of a threat upfront with Toivonen and Berg... They got lucky with some deflected shots so far... England, of course, also were lucky but without doubt Colombia was a much more formidable opponent... While 0-0 is a distinct possibility I think England can get the job done in regular time. I can't see Sweden advancing.

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            • #21
              I took Stones over 75.5 passes in combo with Croatia to qualify. Not the greatest price as i remember him having 69 line at 2.2 with Columbia and that bet failed miserably as after the goal England just started throwing long balls baucause columbians were very agresive in pressing and gave up on their usual build-up but he had like 60 before the goal as they usually play through him on every attack, he tries to connect with midfield, even Pickford doesnt go long, just passes to him and i expect similar game today with swedes waiting in their half and England trying a slow build-up from the back. Of course an english goal might cause problems for the bet but i expect to learn something from that game and not give up on their plan but ofc there is the risk of swedish agresive pressing and they wont be able to pass through the back but thats the risk with every special bet, but the way i see it it will be hard to break that defense so it will take many minutes for first goal, might be even 0-0.
              My country is the world...and my religion is to do good.

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              • #22
                I would also like to see Toivonen to be dropped for this game. As you all might know by now I'm not a huge fan of Toivonen, but just like MarianoV6 said, I don't see him being that useful or involved in this game. With that said, Toivonen have been better than Berg in this World Cup, but of course Janne Andersson won't change a thing for this game, unless he has to due to injuries/suspentions. Heck, Gustav Andersson could have everywhere on the pitch and scored 6 goals in the game against Switzerland and he would still not be playing in this game. So it's not even worth discusing, since it won't happen.

                Sure, England to have more corners, but what happens if England takes an early lead? All these kind of bets depends much on how you expect the game to go.
                Only two things are infinite. The universe and human stupidity. And I'm not too sure about the first one... A Einstein.

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                • #23
                  Sterling in, Toivonen in

                  I guess none of these coaches read BA

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                  • #24
                    Originally posted by MarianoV6 View Post
                    Sterling in, Toivonen in

                    I guess none of these coaches read BA

                    Well I guess some of the users explained why Sterling is an asset, although I too agree that Rashford would be a much better choice as he is more dangerous for the goal. Sterling is such a waste of oportunities...
                    But well I guess Southgate knows better than us two.
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                    • #25
                      Qualifying Method - England Penalties @ 11.5

                      CS 0-0 / 1-1

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by sirac View Post
                        I took Stones over 75.5 passes in combo with Croatia to qualify. Not the greatest price as i remember him having 69 line at 2.2 with Columbia and that bet failed miserably as after the goal England just started throwing long balls baucause columbians were very agresive in pressing and gave up on their usual build-up but he had like 60 before the goal as they usually play through him on every attack, he tries to connect with midfield, even Pickford doesnt go long, just passes to him and i expect similar game today with swedes waiting in their half and England trying a slow build-up from the back. Of course an english goal might cause problems for the bet but i expect to learn something from that game and not give up on their plan but ofc there is the risk of swedish agresive pressing and they wont be able to pass through the back but thats the risk with every special bet, but the way i see it it will be hard to break that defense so it will take many minutes for first goal, might be even 0-0.
                        Interesting prop bet. GL

                        I prefer corners and cards because I can keep count on my fingers. Haha

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by latortuga View Post
                          What did Sterling do to you? haha
                          you still don't see it?

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                          • #28
                            That was just poor from Sweden. England just putting a shift without really sweating. I think Sweden were dead physically, energy management wasnt the greatest, all this running behind the ball will get you at one point. Football's coming home.
                            My country is the world...and my religion is to do good.

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                            • #29
                              Well, when England beats us in our best events (goal keeping, defending and set pieces) then it was never a question who would win it...

                              Can't be disappointed when we reached QF. Our offensive "aces" like Berg and Forsberg produced very little in the end, but Claesson did step it up and our defensive trio Granqvist, Lindelöf-Nilsson and Olsen though very good. Well done Sweden, and congrats to England who where the stronger and better side.
                              Only two things are infinite. The universe and human stupidity. And I'm not too sure about the first one... A Einstein.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by SeanPrice View Post
                                England to do more corners than Sweden is one the best things for me that I've lately seen.

                                I'm taking it.

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