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1/4 finals - 07.07. 20:00 Russia - Croatia

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  • #31
    Originally posted by Cyrus View Post
    Denmark is a hard working team (ask France). This will be whole new game. Are you trying to say russians are using doping?? They have great history in that department. It wouldnt be surprise ih they do.
    as a fact few russian players are suspected to use doping but only one is gone to the press and only word from FIFA is "we investigate" but it's not normal for players who barely manage to run 6 or 7 km before WC now running 12+ ....

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    • #32
      Originally posted by Dorm View Post
      In Russia team only one player from foreign league - Cheryshev. Everybody else play in Russia Premier league (i think as strong as Austrian or Belgium league). In Croatia team big stars like Modric, Manjukic etc. They many times better. Of course, you can belive in miracles. But every fairy tale has its end. Only one possibility - game will be fixed. I don't believe in such possibility.
      only one person have ability for game fixing and that was referee. We all know "how" England gone thru and why some players didn't receive two yellows and don't want to use VAR for some fouls or simulations but whole stadium and world see it and I thin' that was the reff who will be in the final..

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Dorm View Post
        In Russia team only one player from foreign league - Cheryshev. Everybody else play in Russia Premier league (i think as strong as Austrian or Belgium league). In Croatia team big stars like Modric, Manjukic etc. They many times better. Of course, you can belive in miracles. But every fairy tale has its end. Only one possibility - game will be fixed. I don't believe in such possibility.
        Players don't win the game but teams won all the time.
        For me Russia is not the team yet, they play on passion and on home crowd but when the sh*** hit the fan they are nowhere to be seen

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        • #34
          Originally posted by Dex View Post
          as a fact few russian players are suspected to use doping but only one is gone to the press and only word from FIFA is "we investigate" but it's not normal for players who barely manage to run 6 or 7 km before WC now running 12+ ....
          Thats what I was talking about. I was reading some article about that sort of speculations. For me also its not normal after lousy year to play like that. But maybe we are wrong. Nowadays all is measured and any deviation from normal should be investigated.

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          • #35
            I think that Russia finally have coach which knows how to handlle with their mentality.Thing that most of players playing domestic league doesn t mean that they don t have enough quality to play against Cro.Cro has a quality but doesnt have reputation or long tradition like Spain,France or Brasil.Maybe not an equal but chance are 60:40% on Croat side...

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            • #36
              have to agree about uruguay game rather than one vs spain serving as measure of russia level....

              spain was a joke in many ways this tournie ..... and even that joke completely dominated russians even if
              it was thootless w/o deph one ...

              croatia disapointed a bit vs danes ... very open one that could have gone either way ...

              still modric and rakitic plus quite sharp and complementary in this cup duet upfront shall be too much ... rebic plus mandjukic
              ...but then again, who does?

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              • #37
                After I have seen Eng vs Sve think that Croatia could become European Urugvay...And first step is that they eliminate Russia...

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                • #38
                  After seeing this game im just gonna say England will have an easy game in the semis. Just too average from Croatia, not much into their gameplan and physically they look problematic and after 2 extratimes in a row they will not get any better.
                  My country is the world...and my religion is to do good.

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by sirac View Post
                    After seeing this game im just gonna say England will have an easy game in the semis. Just too average from Croatia, not much into their gameplan and physically they look problematic and after 2 extratimes in a row they will not get any better.
                    I totally concur. Croatia are nothing special. They got a lucky draw and were lucky to advance against Denmark and Russia... I can't see them getting past England and certainly not winning.

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                    • #40
                      i was thinking on same lineof tought ...

                      specially in back croatia is not that special .....

                      but in this WC and at knock out competitions other factors aply .....


                      look at russia ... almost at semis with quite average players overall ....


                      england vs sweeden was not really tested ....


                      another ? is how many defender sleft croats have....


                      BUT still england is known for their blundering at some point ... id rather be with ever comp balkanics

                      first odds show a +.25 1.9 .... 3 days more than enough to rest ....
                      ...but then again, who does?

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                      • #41
                        Originally posted by litost View Post
                        i was thinking on same lineof tought ...

                        specially in back croatia is not that special .....

                        but in this WC and at knock out competitions other factors aply .....


                        look at russia ... almost at semis with quite average players overall ....


                        england vs sweeden was not really tested ....


                        another ? is how many defender sleft croats have....


                        BUT still england is known for their blundering at some point ... id rather be with ever comp balkanics

                        first odds show a +.25 1.9 .... 3 days more than enough to rest ....
                        Yup but Russia had the home factor which is huge in football... England, of course, had an easy route to the finals but I really cannot see Croatia troubling them too much... I'm expecting Belgium vs. France to be a tighter match...

                        Belgium vs. Croatia has 3rd place runoff written all over it.

                        For me France will win and Belgium will edge Croatia for 3rd place.

                        But, of course, I could be totally wrong.

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