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1/4 finals - 07.07. 20:00 Russia - Croatia

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  • #16
    Wiser explained that from a betting perspective value definitely is on odds for Russia to advance with 2.5 and above.

    Russia is the host of the tournament, they have a huge oportunity to leave a mark in WC competitions after many years, they already eliminated Spain and Croatia definitely doesn't look unbeatable, especially when Croatians are set as favourites and everything except their advancement would be considered as failure.

    Croatia played great so far, but better teams not always win. Too much talks in advance about England could distract this team.

    p.s. english newspapers like Sun, DailyMail, Star, Mirror are pure rubbish, don't take them too seriously.

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    • #17
      Hmm tough battle to be seen.Why the russians would bother themselves to change the tactic?Who would change something already proved beneficial?I was pounder over some cards,each side have physical players and I have seen some nasty chalenges from the croatians and we balkanians know what the balkan temperant could bring.I think it there will be a physical battle for predominance.Yet remains to be seen who will be the referee but I dont see a reason why not small lines like over 3.5 wont be fulfilled.

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      • #18
        Croatia has not impressed but better as a team and game of Russia that is poor and only defense (For me favorita Croatia but it will have difficulty)

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        • #19
          Did anyone see in the news a few months back how England in protest to that chemical attack on the Russian defector and daughter refused to send their delegation to the WC? Wouldn't it be funny if they were to meet in their next round. Some times I believe in coincidences like these occurring and if you see them they can payoff quite nicely. I'll probably throw a few coins on Russia vs England in the next round and I know this is horrible justification but for Russia to advance here.

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          • #20
            Croatia players looked very tired in their game vs Denmark. Russians have (one of) the most kilometres run in the whole tournament.

            Remember, Cherchesov's children will do 200% to advance.

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            • #21
              Denmark is a hard working team (ask France). This will be whole new game. Are you trying to say russians are using doping?? They have great history in that department. It wouldnt be surprise ih they do.
              Originally posted by SeanPrice View Post
              Croatia players looked very tired in their game vs Denmark. Russians have (one of) the most kilometres run in the whole tournament.

              Remember, Cherchesov's children will do 200% to advance.

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              • #22
                It is correct team Russia is very well prepared physically. By average distance covered they are 4th team of the tournament (and best of all teams left at QF stage), by rapid transitions they are 11th and 2nd respectively. It has nothing to do with doping, as it would be suicidal (and dumb) to be using that given all recent IOC punishments. The reason for them being fit is pre-tournament preparations. The Russians looked poor in last two friendlies before the event, and the head coach said they will be ready to run when time comes. So it just shows the physios did their job well this time.

                I disagree with the estimation above about chances 80-20 in favor of Croatia. It was like that vs Spain (on paper, had we known Hierro's starting 11 and tactics would have shifted to 60-40), and I rate Croatia lower than Lopetegui's Spain (sorry but we only had a chance to see this team in their first match). Provided it is a home support for Russia and huge burden passed, I rate this encounter as 53-47 or even 50-50. Hence I find value in the odds offered on Russia to qualify. 2.40 is nice value
                Last edited by Mikele; 05-07-18, 21:39.

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                • #23
                  Poor in the last two games? Try 2 years. Look at their results in last year. Hosts always shouldnt be underestimated. But form comparison, player by player comparison..everything is on Croatia side. We are rightfully favourites. But Russia will have their chances too.

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                  • #24
                    In Russia team only one player from foreign league - Cheryshev. Everybody else play in Russia Premier league (i think as strong as Austrian or Belgium league). In Croatia team big stars like Modric, Manjukic etc. They many times better. Of course, you can belive in miracles. But every fairy tale has its end. Only one possibility - game will be fixed. I don't believe in such possibility.

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                    • #25
                      Originally posted by Dorm View Post
                      In Russia team only one player from foreign league - Cheryshev. Everybody else play in Russia Premier league (i think as strong as Austrian or Belgium league). In Croatia team big stars like Modric, Manjukic etc. They many times better. Of course, you can belive in miracles. But every fairy tale has its end. Only one possibility - game will be fixed. I don't believe in such possibility.
                      No one here needs these kind of posts. Everybody knows that Croatian players are better individually.
                      Spanish players are 3x better than Russians. Who won?
                      Germany vs South Korea? Who won?

                      Its not only about quality.
                      Come back with with real reasoning.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by Karl-Heinz View Post
                        No one here needs these kind of posts. Everybody knows that Croatian players are better individually.
                        Spanish players are 3x better than Russians. Who won?
                        Germany vs South Korea? Who won?

                        Its not only about quality.
                        Come back with with real reasoning.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by Karl-Heinz View Post
                          No one here needs these kind of posts. Everybody knows that Croatian players are better individually.
                          Spanish players are 3x better than Russians. Who won?
                          Germany vs South Korea? Who won?

                          Its not only about quality.
                          Come back with with real reasoning.
                          May be you will write your smart prediction? I would read it with pleasure.

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                          • #28
                            Spain was the worst Spain in many years and it was the same, in the three matchs, Iran, Morocco and Russia. I don't know and I will not write which team is my favourite to qualify here, I only tell that you can't have into account for this match, the last match against Spain because Spain in this World Cup was a total disaster (the worst performance I remember from my selection in long time), the players were horrible, the situation with the coach two days before the start cof the competition... and in spite of this, Russia only had one chance in the match, the gift from Piqué with the penalty

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                            • #29
                              Originally posted by Dorm View Post
                              May be you will write your smart prediction? I would read it with pleasure.
                              We already know that the individual quality of the Croats is better. But you also underestimated the Russian league. According to ClubELO, it's better than the Belgian and Austrian leagues and even the Portuguese league. In fact, it's close to the French league. Russian teams have also not performed poorly in international competitions... The players being based in the domestic league could be an advantage. They know each other and they're a cohesive, well-organized and well-drilled bunch - just like the "collectives" of old in the Soviet Union. Besides these Russian players get plenty international experience every year through the CL and EL. So there is no real need to bring on players that are based abroad. What would the benefit be?

                              I think the home advantage (which is a huge factor) should cancel out the better individual quality of the Croats. Croatia did not convince in qualifying and struggled against Denmark... Croatia beat Argentina but we know that Argentina got their tactics and formation wrong. So I would not read too much into that game either... Meanwhile Nigeria and Iceland were very easy opponents... I still think that Croatia is being overestimated here by some punters while Russia is being underestimated (and has been underestimated all along).

                              Russia are a real team whereas I'm not convinced that Croatia is more than a fairly random collection of some highly-paid and skilled individuals. Croatia have attacking flair but in qualifying their attack seemed disjointed. I think they may run up against a brick wall. I'm predicting a low-scoring match (unless we see an early "lucky" goal) that could well go into ET with Russia prevailing in the end.
                              Last edited by WiserthantheCrowd; 06-07-18, 14:29.

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                              • #30
                                You are all talking about Croatia`s performance during qualifications, I just say - forget about it. They were terrible managed and almost missed WC alltogether. After they appointed Dalic, things turned 189 degrees and they are now a serious unit.
                                When I am thinking about this match I just can not imagine Russia scoring more than one goal against Croatia and on the other side, can not imagina Croatia not scoring at all. So the only result Russia could achieve is 1-1, everything else points towards Croatia`s win.
                                My call is 2-1 at least!
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