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    WORLD CUP Group B

    15 Jun 2018 1 X 2 B's
    17:00 Morocco - Iran 2.30 3.09 3.55
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    20:00 Portugal - Spain 4.47 3.50 1.88
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    20 Jun 2018 1 X 2 B's
    14:00 Portugal - Morocco 1.55 3.93 7.05
    13
    20:00 Iran - Spain 18.23 6.53 1.20
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    25 Jun 2018 1 X 2 B's
    20:00 Iran - Portugal 9.15 4.66 1.38
    10
    20:00 Spain - Morocco 1.38 4.71 9.29
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    #2
    Everyone will be expecting Spain and Portugal to be the 2 teams to qualify from this group, however while that may happen I fancy Morocco to possibly upset the apple cart here and beat one of them to 2nd place.

    A quirk of fate is that both Spain and Portugal have to play each other first in the group which is slightly favourable to Morocco if (A) they win their first game against Iran and (B) Spain v Portugal ends a draw. Even if Spain wins then suddenly you could have Morocco on 3 pts, Spain 3pts and Portugal 0 pts. This would suit Morocco down to the ground as they are defensively strong and have speed to burn on the counter. Portugal aren't exactly the most creative team going around and much prefer playing in a similar way to Morocco so they could struggle under these conditions. Portugal still rely heavily on Ronaldo however he looks tired to me and maybe still not 100% after a few knocks this season - pretty much non-existent in the UCL final. Continuing on my scenario Morocco could get a draw from Portugal and then probably face a Spain team that may already be qualified by game 3.

    Anyway there is enough there for me to take Morocco to qualify however as is the case with my bet on Peru I'll take Morocco to reach the Qtr Finals @ 14.00

    Iran rock bottom @ 1.76

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      #3
      I also see upset potential here for Morocco. I think Portugal may be overrated and Morocco is underrated.

      For me Portugal is overrated because while they are a household name as is Ronaldo the squad has aged and seems past its prime... Moreover, they were Euro champions in 2016 but that was a very lucky run and under other circumstances they would not have made it past the 1st round... The main contenders at center back are 34, 35 and 36 years old. Ruben Dias who is an alternative for that position just turned 21 and I'm not sure he's ready... Portugal aren't very dynamic and the attack is very dependent on Ronaldo and his form on a given day.

      Of all the African teams, Morocco looks the most complete to me. They scored 11 goals in qualifying and conceded none. Like Algeria in the last WC, they can draw from a diaspora of European-born players. They boast a well-rounded organized defence headed by Mehdi Benatia. Their midfield is also structured and creative with players like Hakim Ziyech and they can pose a threat upfront... This is a very cohesive. organized and well-coached side.

      I think Morocco will beat Iran and can beat or draw with Portugal so that it will all come down to the last day of play when Morocco might confront a Spanish side that is already qualified and may rest key players or take a more relaxed approach...

      My picks are Morocco to qualify @6 and 1.Spain/ 2. Morocco @9.5.

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        #4
        Originally posted by WiserthantheCrowd View Post
        I also see upset potential here for Morocco. I think Portugal may be overrated and Morocco is underrated.

        For me Portugal is overrated because while they are a household name as is Ronaldo the squad has aged and seems past its prime... Moreover, they were Euro champions in 2016 but that was a very lucky run and under other circumstances they would not have made it past the 1st round... The main contenders at center back are 34, 35 and 36 years old. Ruben Dias who is an alternative for that position just turned 21 and I'm not sure he's ready... Portugal aren't very dynamic and the attack is very dependent on Ronaldo and his form on a given day.

        Of all the African teams, Morocco looks the most complete to me. They scored 11 goals in qualifying and conceded none. Like Algeria in the last WC, they can draw from a diaspora of European-born players. They boast a well-rounded organized defence headed by Mehdi Benatia. Their midfield is also structured and creative with players like Hakim Ziyech and they can pose a threat upfront... This is a very cohesive. organized and well-coached side.

        I think Morocco will beat Iran and can beat or draw with Portugal so that it will all come down to the last day of play when Morocco might confront a Spanish side that is already qualified and may rest key players or take a more relaxed approach...

        My picks are Morocco to qualify @6 and 1.Spain/ 2. Morocco @9.5.
        Very interesting bets (and odds!): I'll try them.

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          #5
          portugal one of my favs on 2nd group .... ( france and similars ) ...

          they are not just ronaldo who btw is far from past his prime ....

          silva & guedes are about th ebest atacking players one has seen at club level in europe ....

          plus NT is full of exp units that allready won a big title couple years ago ...

          tricky group ...
          ...but then again, who does?

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            #6
            Yep i dont rate Morocco that highly but indeed there is a slight posibility of an upset here mainly because how Portugal are set-up, defensive and playing for draw, if we remember last euro they were 3rd in group stages, drawing lots of games. But i wouldnt count on ageing as a factor against them, in fact it will prolly work their way because they have a smart coach and they play to their strenght. They dont get exposed because they defend very deep when all becomes about positioning and they wont get exposed by speedy attackers this way. This is very dangerous team once out of groups because they got talent, good organisation, mentality and know-how and they play tight, safity first so it will take something great to beat them. But they wont produce a miracle again, thats unlikely, very unlikely, but they will be very hard to beat, look at last friendly with Belgium and how they shut down their offense, great tactical team. I doubt they will not make it from this group.
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              #7
              My impressions from Belgium - Portugal:

              Portugal are a very smart team, even if they play ugly football. They managed to kill off the high tempo which Belgium was trying to impose and at some point took full control of the midfield. They know veyr well how to slow down the game.

              I think Belgium has a lot of quality, but are not that good as a team. Lukaku is a deadwood and totally doesn't fit with the rest of the attacking players (De Broyne, Hazard, Mertens, Carrasco)- they are all technical, fast and small, and he is sluggish, clumsy and with poor technique. I feel Belgium will do better against top teams with Mertens or Hazard as fake nine.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Miccho View Post
                My impressions from Belgium - Portugal:

                Portugal are a very smart team, even if they play ugly football. They managed to kill off the high tempo which Belgium was trying to impose and at some point took full control of the midfield. They know veyr well how to slow down the game.

                I think Belgium has a lot of quality, but are not that good as a team. Lukaku is a deadwood and totally doesn't fit with the rest of the attacking players (De Broyne, Hazard, Mertens, Carrasco)- they are all technical, fast and small, and he is sluggish, clumsy and with poor technique. I feel Belgium will do better against top teams with Mertens or Hazard as fake nine.
                Good info on Portugal and totally agree on Belgium. Many good individuals in certain parts of the field but not a great team collectively and I expect this will be found out later in the tournament.

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                  #9
                  Iran is the first team to arrive in Russia (Bakovka, +1:30 hours from Tehran).

                  Sunrise at 3:57
                  Sunset at 20:34
                  Day length is 16 hours and 37min.
                  Last edited by MarianoV6; 06-06-18, 06:59.

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                    #10
                    Apparently Spain have a horrible record in WC openers...

                    Prior to winning in 2002 they hadn't won an opening game since 1950 WC.

                    They won in 2006, but lost in 2010 and 2014 as we know.

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                      #11
                      A few notes from Spain v Tunisia...

                      As to be expected Spain had all the possession, while Tunisia sat in a defensive formation and dealt pretty well with everything Spain had to offer. Tunisia didn't really offer much threat on the counter and it wasn't until late in the game when Lopetegui added a bit more goal threat in both Costa and Aspas did they finally create a goal after Tunisian gk went walkabout. If Tunisia's approach is an insight to how they will setup against England then England could find it hard to score.

                      There are question marks for me and also Spanish newspapers about where goals are going to come from in this Spain team. Marca is asking for Aspas to start and while they are regularly wrong and unlikely that Lopetegui listens, I have to agree that I don't see a lot of goal threat in this side other than individual brilliance from Isco/Silva etc. Costa will likely start upfront but Spain's style doesn't really suit his game which is much more suited to having space to attack.

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                        #12
                        problem is not goalscorers .. problem is usual crowd midfield ... realy too much on non-depth posssion style ..or go with more direct one with fast good goalgetters wingers ...

                        rodrigo and aspas can play on sidelines and both have goal within specially gallego ...

                        at under 21 with lopetegui on helm the nt looked okw/o so much of that darn meaningless tikitaka ....

                        anyways its just friendlies ..id not take too much conclusions out of it
                        Last edited by litost; 10-06-18, 01:41.
                        ...but then again, who does?

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                          #13
                          Originally posted by litost View Post
                          problem is not goalscorers .. problem is usual crowd midfield ... realy too much on non-depth posssion style ..or go with more direct one with fast good goalgetters wingers ...

                          rodrigo and aspas can play on sidelines and both have goal within specially gallego ...

                          at under 21 with lopetegui on helm the nt looked okw/o so much of that darn meaningless tikitaka ....

                          anyways its just friendlies ..id not take too much conclusions out of it
                          Maybe, let's talk after they play Portugal and then we'll really know where Spain's at. I'll leave you with a final stat...Spain won 14 straight friendlies before winning the WC in 2010. Their streak is at 1 for the last 2 years. Winning is a habit friendly or not.

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                            #14
                            what on earth ! . ...u talking about ...

                            mate i think u guys too excited ab wc... friendlies are just that ... in most cases a waste of time sp aftre loooooong club seasons .....

                            as measure may just be a little tiny hint of what goes on sp on stablished sides....

                            before euro 12 .. spain lost ag most top teams they faced at friendlies ... then won cup on style .... brasil is on great spirits couse they come from bad series ... they are eager to prove at every game ... but sides like germoney ..spain ... do not give a rats ar&se ...
                            and letme remind u what hapened vs argentina couple months ago .. and what the off record is at euro qualifiers ... thats what counts ..

                            still i see not spain as main fav .. good team .. we have adv of club like managing lately ... same ideas and game plan ..very similar .. lopetegui looked like blending in well new players .. but he needs to find right picture .. galons shall do rest to at least go far ...

                            then .. many factor play .. so many good teams in front .. like portugal ...

                            i see this group tricky ... probably theyll settle for dull 0-0 ...
                            ...but then again, who does?

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                              #15
                              I watched most of La Furia games and agree with Litost's judgment.

                              The main problem of this team is the lack of sharpness upfront (even if this didn't show so much in the qualifiers). Diego Costa not fitting well into this team, while Morata is out. The main goal-getter is David Silva - with all due respect, but he is a midfielder, and if he is your top goal-scorer, it means you have problems with the strikers.

                              Aspas and Rodrigo - good players, but NOT world class for sure. Spain might have a lot of trouble scoring goals vs stronger opponents.

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