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  • #16
    this is one of the days when is better to stay away from BA livescore(especially when you lose too much betting money in past two days)because some of us, like me, dont like to see some members losing energy on anything what have nothing with betting or some friendly conversation/mood ...

    is maybe some kind of solution to open topic with voting about Achiles destiny on BA forum, with referendum question, *should Achiles get permanent ban?* ? thats some kind of ****ing democracy solution...

    then all of you can finally step away from your hardcore position....biggest problem is both od separate sides have a right, in my opinion...or someone mention, after these changes of rules(how i figured) maybe to reset previous bans or wtf i know, if moderators have good will( know they have) maybe is best solution topic with voting...
    f.... english ....on my serbian, croatian, bosnian language i would tell all of this much prettiest to read...but all can understand what writer has to say i hope

    best wishes...i'm done for today

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    • #17
      Originally posted by Marco Van-Basten View Post
      can i ask here q's about achi's ban?
      You can ask, imo, because there is nothing to hide here... although it should be clear from the above-mentioned post.
      http://forum.bettingadvice.com/showp...90&postcount=1

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      • #18
        can we made a 2 livescore threads named 1)-ladies livescore -name say everythyng and 2) suburban livescore- were anyone before log in they sign a document according to which they agree to be insulted or provoked ?

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        • #19
          Originally posted by pkojotsg View Post
          is maybe some kind of solution to open topic with voting about Achiles destiny on BA forum, with referendum question, *should Achiles get permanent ban?* ? thats some kind of ****ing democracy solution...
          Sorry, but that's impossible. If Achilles ban will ever be lifted it'll be a matter between him and moderators, popular demand will play no role here.

          Originally posted by lawyer man View Post
          can we made a 2 livescore threads named 1)-ladies livescore -name say everythyng and 2) suburban livescore- were anyone before log in they sign a document according to which they agree to be insulted or provoked ?
          If this is a serious question then the answer is no, Bettingadvice has to mantain some standards. I'm sure there is plenty of other forums where you can insult people, 4chan or something.

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          • #20
            As I said earlier, rules are ok and yet they're misinterpreted right away because members need to adapt, look at the cleansing it caused. Also the problem is what kind of power brings this to administration, I'm afraid that they'll ban and edit (which is super annoying) all over the place. Like shicne said they can take sides and still use the rules as an excuse.

            Also some people posted here for so long that they developed their own styles of writing like Lokorus, it's simply not fair to expect from them that they'll become polite and all flowers over night. I don't mind posts filled with stars and a few fuc*s and shi*s here and there. We're adults after all (betting isn't for minors anyway ).


            1) strong insults directed at players or nations
            2) racism
            3) any other remarks that are in extremely bad taste(death wishes etc.)
            4) ridiculous, excessive cursing
            So this are good but how do two moderators define excessive cursing?

            First 3 points yes, last 4th point over time as I understand that it's sometimes soothing to let out the frustration because of a lost bet through a starry sky and I don't know who in the betting world would mind that.

            Also I would still like to ask if you could at least consider of unbanning certain members and apply this rules from there on.
            Last edited by Morbius; 15-02-12, 16:13.

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            • #21
              Originally posted by Morbius View Post
              So this are good but how do two moderators define excessive cursing?
              No one said cursing won't be allowed anymore in the livescore thread, because we all agree that sometimes it's good for letting off steam, especially after losing a bet, thus some (or a lot of) money.

              But there should be a line drawn between the manner of cursing and the frequency. For example, we had/have members like yves or le_celtics, who only posted to curse someone, a lot of times taking that to the extreme, with racism, death wishes, etc. That's excessive!
              http://forum.bettingadvice.com/showp...90&postcount=1

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              • #22
                I have had to be away from the BA forum for personal reasons and now for the few weeks that I have been back trying to read and catch up with the updates I'm totally surprised how the forum looks different compared to the previous one that I could recall.

                Well, honestly being not-so-active like some other members here (like Achilles for instance), I still want to share my humble opinion regarding the discussion. More the word 'democracy' I hear our admins have been using the more it sticks in my mind. I agree that BA used to be a democratic forum, but these last steps really don't help it.

                In democracies, any given legislation, either newly created or updated, is put into force after a transition period during which the community is by any possible means informed about the probable outcomes of probable acts after the new/updated rules shall begin to apply. I mean not like just changing the subject of the livescore thread and asking people to read the rules update.

                Furthermore, in democracies people are given/let some specific time to adapt/adjust themselves to the new/updated rules. Rules that have already existed but not highly been practiced due to lenient approach does not mean that everyone should be aware of them and their outcomes already, or immediately.

                But these are valid for democratic environments so you can all forget about it. BA in my opinion should have other priorities rather than the livescore section.

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                • #23
                  Hmm, some heavy changes here too, so i guess, the end of the world is really close, new world order also on internet...

                  Livescore was one of the threads on this forum, that let people to say some words on current event, even some curse now and then, ... even to write some plain picks...

                  In such way, livescore will be more or less empty. Some very important (in my eyes) users of this forum were already banned, some are leaving, and that's bad. I don't know whom suits these. But hey, that's just my opinion.

                  I can't agree with all these dictatorship here, but that's again just my opinion.

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                  • #24
                    Reading this thread I understand that at that moment when Achilles got banned racism was not against the rules and only the new rules would incriminate him. False. I recall even more important contributor (now moderator) banned for racism before because rules are rules for everyone.

                    On topic: I am not the best person to tell you how to do your job with this "cleaning operation" (since I am not really the most friendly user of bettingadvice) but I would like to suggest you to make sure that moderators share your view about how things have to look on that thread because cg (almost retired) and arsenalno1 won`t be able to handle alone 24/7 all the shits might happen there. And if moderators would let people get away with bullshits you`ll get another saga "My friend got unfair ban, I will go to ECHR, please unban him and lets erase the past".
                    I am obnoxious, dumbass can't you tell?

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                    • #25
                      why I was banned ? who banned me ?

                      is it so hard to write your names and reasons ?

                      why i wasn't warn before or something ?

                      someone said he is feeling communist title as an insult but what are you doing ?
                      you can write & rewrite how much rules you want but you will stay same mugs here..

                      Where were you when all the thing started ? where were you ?

                      arbiter something

                      arsenal something

                      dj something ?
                      you left CG to clear the mess and you were calm witnesses. watching but never had the cojones to start and clear the mess.

                      Can someone of you mods/fake mods and admins to say why CG left ?

                      Can some mods here say why this is coming right now ?

                      You left so many questions without answer and all you made is the mess that will follow and really healthy members of this community felt wounded by your behaviour.
                      Some fake warriors like arsenal something who was unactive years are coming like ninjas here out of nowhere...

                      Don't you have shame guys , mods ? being unactive so many years...just feel free to take off your mod's title, but nah...you're as much insolent as the neighbour cat.
                      I will not waste much time as i don't feel you deserve an intelligent person like me to discuss all these things which are obvious. You will just stay as average multi-waste eyes handicapped horses.

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                      • #26
                        Originally posted by beretta View Post
                        Can someone of you mods/fake mods and admins to say why CG left ?
                        I left because although I agree with the rules starting to be enforced, i dont agree with the way they have been implemented.

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                        • #27
                          Originally posted by beretta View Post
                          why I was banned ? who banned me ?

                          is it so hard to write your names and reasons ?
                          There was no reason written in fact, which is a mistake by moderator. Sorry for that. AFAIK it was for a racist remark.

                          Originally posted by beretta View Post
                          why i wasn't warn before or something ?
                          You were already banned at least 5 times, every time by different moderator. Warned I don't know how many times.

                          Originally posted by beretta View Post
                          Can some mods here say why this is coming right now ?
                          Problems with livescore go back to the very way it was created, there were some previous attempts to clear the insults/fight/racism(even 2005: http://forum.bettingadvice.com/showthread.php?t=5147), it's just another.

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                          • #28
                            Originally posted by Steve C View Post
                            I left because although I agree with the rules starting to be enforced, i dont agree with the way they have been implemented.
                            Appreciate it a lot!!!
                            With this move they are literally jammed in the sludge!
                            IMO, current management: Arsenal, DJ, Arbiter and big part of the mods have no capacity to run this site...

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                            • #29
                              wasnt done for you, Achilles, or anyone else on here but myself........and they can/will run it, just gonna be a few teething problems along the way.

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                              • #30
                                Originally posted by Steve C View Post
                                wasnt done for you, Achilles, or anyone else on here but myself........and they can/will run it, just gonna be a few teething problems along the way.
                                I didn't say you did it for anyone... just appreciate it as a decision by man with principles...

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