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  • peterpen
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    Casino is the type of thing that can change your life or ruin it into a second. I play in casino for about five years. I don`t like to go to a casino. I rather play it online. I use: cisdetroit.org for a good period of time, because they have the best servers, here you can play poker, slots, arcade or even bet on sport games. This website is safest in the town, and the safest from which I know. I never had any type of problem with this website, and I made a good amount of money. I recommend you to use it, if you don`t like to spend your time into a casino.

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  • RonaldMC
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    As for me would be better in cintapoker http://cintapoker.in/casino-bonuses/. Online betting and gambling is highly popular. Many top online poker rooms offer betting opportunities, wagering possibilities and even deposit bonuses to attract players. This has attracted many online poker players to online poker rooms. Some of these players may be beginners and yet still have the urge to win and make some money out of their hobby. One major disadvantage of playing online poker is that players often lose large amounts of money while playing. A lot of people tend to place a high stake bets without knowing the true potential of the hand they have. Some basic knowledge about poker tells them that there is a big possibility to come out with a good hand when playing against a strong opponent online. There are other factors such as the number of opponents and varying odds in a game which affect the chances to win. In fact, there are many cases where online poker players have made mistakes while playing, sometimes resulting to a loss of big sums of money. However, there are also many other pros of playing online poker.
    Last edited by RonaldMC; 23-06-21, 12:20.

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  • vinodkv
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    Originally posted by inter1977 View Post
    Hello

    please help me with all type of advices here. I also ask to admins of BA forum to keep active this topic, it can help both to me and many another members.

    I stopped with betting almost two months ago. Reasons: lack of discipline, no control, betting without control, long losing runs.. I recognized clear sigbals of gambling and decided to stop.it was right decission

    I am making come back to betting world but i must be sure that i will 100% respect all rules (not 99% even).

    I have my own betting strategy that works for me. I have there 10 golden rules and showing 100% respect to this rules i can easy make profit, especially on long term. But i am confused now and simply cannt trust myself.

    In last month i made test for my strategy. I wrote my all bets on paper (didnt bet with money). I hade perfect results. In first round 11 bets won, 2 bets lost. In second peruod 9 bets won, 3 bets lost. Finally in last trial period i had 10 bets won and only 2 lost. Perfect results and i really doubt that i can repeat this. But main problem here is that bad discipline.

    What to do to place only bets accordibg to my strategy and rules? What kind of stoff to read to increase discipkine and self control? what are best advices here?

    I am more then good with selecting good picks, i have great strategy that works for me. But i lose control with many games in fixture and place bets without control and out of rulea of my strategy.



    Difference between Strategy on Paper and Playing with Real Money...While on Paper we select bets wisely irrespective of Odds. Our selection might even include odds of 2.75 or 2+ or 3 or even correct score. But when Playing with real money, people gets tensed and go for the most favorite in a league, 1.5 odds or something like that. For most profit we bet with most of our bank and unfortunately it loses, even if the first one wins, we lose in second or third game of such favorites. Mathematically WRONG, We does this coz of our Emotional Instability and Fear to follow the theory when we bet with Real Money.

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  • vinodkv
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    I am no Pro, but from experience i can tell that some people got the knack in betting than many others. Yesterday I saw a guy tipping in a site (I cant post such content links here because of the rules) and i was really amazed to see that he got all his Euro 2021 Predictions right, except just two bets. That involved Win/Lose as well as Under/Over Bets. He did predict all the matches until now. Maybe he is a loser in Club Competitions, I dunno. So the catch.... We all know how to pick a winning bet now and then, but our problem is, We are addicted to bet regularly even if we are very much unsure about a particular game.

    A friend of mine who is just a newbie is a regular winner, because he bets selectively and occasionally and not addicted to it. But in my case, I think i know better than him and bets regularly, so I lose many bets. Discipline can keep the bank for longer times and at times we could earn some profit too.

    Addiction is the main reason for losing all the bank all of a sudden. Without Addiction we could go on a long time and talking about the profit, that depends on our experience, ability, knowledge, Luck, Intelligence, Patience and many other factors.

    From Addiction to Discipline, there to Patience, there to Knowledge, Sharpness of Brain and Finally Profit and that too is not Guaranteed for everybody. One more thing, Don't get frightened seeing huge odds and don't get over excited seeing Favorites. If all evens were losers then we could have earned money laying them and if all favorites were winners, we could have earned steady income backing them. So, it all depends on current form, the players on the field on that particular day, the motivation factor, fatigue factor, History between teams etc etc and not the Odds.

    I will give you an example from my life, I dunno how it happened but it happened some how. In 2003, I started with a bankroll of 25 USD and Reached up to 5500 USD in a month, Backing and Laying in a very famous exchange. My friend who was sitting with me all the time told me to withdraw 3500 and play with the rest. He warned me this wont happen every time and don't be too over confident, but i didn't listen to him. I wanted to make 10,000 all of a sudden and decided to PLAY SAFER. I backed two favorites, both were playing at home and odds were 1.25. 2500 each on both homies and UNFORTUNATELY both LOST. See where i ended up, all my effort of a month wasted all of a sudden. Lack of self discipline and my Greed ruined it.

    Hope it Helps !
    Last edited by vinodkv; 17-06-21, 17:38.

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  • peterpen
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    I think I know where the long losing bets and lack of discipline came from. You must have hit a big score and started betting without even thinking it through. I had a period in my life when I purposely bet on considerable odds without expecting to win and ended up winning a thousand dollars. After that, instead of intelligently lining up subsequent bets, I bet everything randomly, counting on luck. I ended up losing money and stopped doing that. If you like it, start again. Find a good bookmaker http://casinoexpressindia.com/mobilecasino . Good luck
    Last edited by peterpen; 18-06-21, 11:53.

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  • caysio5torm
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    Hey, dude, you know, you have to try to refuse from something else to discipline yourself. For example I refused from tea and coffee and it helped me to abstain from unnecessary bets and uncontrolled waste of money on betting
    dude, it's called addiction! People are venturesome from the very beginning and it's normal if you try to discipline yourself. Personally I was able to get rid of addiction when I was betting on this site https://vbet77.net/, because, I with the help of that gambling site I got acquainted with a person who was talking to me when I had addiction. However, as a result, I managed to learn self-control due to that site, because there are high rates, so a winning is enough to feel satisfaction from gambling for a whole week

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  • lmaomenimen
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    Hello

    please help me with all type of advices here. I also ask to admins of BA forum to keep active this topic, it can help both to me and many another members.

    I stopped with betting almost two months ago. Reasons: lack of discipline, no control, betting without control, long losing runs.. I recognized clear sigbals of gambling and decided to stop.it was right decission

    I am making come back to betting world but i must be sure that i will 100% respect all rules (not 99% even).

    I have my own betting strategy that works for me. I have there 10 golden rules and showing 100% respect to this rules i can easy make profit, especially on long term. But i am confused now and simply cannt trust myself.

    In last month i made test for my strategy. I wrote my all bets on paper (didnt bet with money). I hade perfect results. In first round 11 bets won, 2 bets lost. In second peruod 9 bets won, 3 bets lost. Finally in last trial period i had 10 bets won and only 2 lost. Perfect results and i really doubt that i can repeat this. But main problem here is that bad discipline.

    What to do to place only bets accordibg to my strategy and rules? What kind of stoff to read to increase discipkine and self control? what are best advices here?

    I am more then good with selecting good picks, i have great strategy that works for me. But i lose control with many games in fixture and place bets without control and out of rulea of my strategy.
    Hey, dude, you know, you have to try to refuse from something else to discipline yourself. For example I refused from tea and coffee and it helped me to abstain from unnecessary bets and uncontrolled waste of money on betting

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  • River
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    This kind of topic is very interesting.

    I've been in the same situation, a lot of times. It costed me a lot of money. You have to do mistakes, again and again to learn how to be better next time.
    Always analyze your bets, what you did good and bad, how much your bad betting behaviour made you lose,...
    Control will come by itself. Experience is the only way to obtain it.

    Bettor's real enemy is lack of control. How to manage winning or losing streak is really essential. You have to understand that a bet is only a little part of the path, winning one or losing one is not so important. Overreacting is a bad thing.

    My "strategy" is to stick with the league I know well, only 6 to be honest (UCL and EL included). Sometimes there won't be matches in your league, don't fight frustration by betting on another league.
    I'm using Betexplorer to have a quick vision of match scheduled in the week. Be sure you've parametered the settings to limit the list to your leagues (you won't be less tempted if you don't see other matches).
    On Monday I look for the upcoming matches and I let my instinct tell me if it is a play or not. Few days/hours before the kick-off of a match identified as a play, I look more deeply the fixture and I bet...or not.
    But right now I don't bet outside of my initial list of matches made on Monday. Gut feelings first, analysis second and never one without the other.

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  • jonstew65
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    Download the spreadsheet from this article http://www.bettingresource.com/sport...anagement.html Then clear the log, and enter your own picks and follow it with that money management. It works like magic as long as you can make decent picks.

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  • inter1977
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    yes, i totally agree. Live betting is worst, its actually only gambling, not prediction and betting.
    .
    I work only now on my strategy that really works. I write my bets on paper and follow results and acter mach i make analyse of lost match and try to find reason.

    i am also reading about betting psychology and work on it. I am building strong self control.

    I think that one professiobal bettor must have completed several elements. Discipkine is probably main one.

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  • Bodza
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    Very good topic, as I am sure everyone of us have something to say about their betting experience. I want to point out some live betting "trap" which I have been caught myself fallen so many times!
    Live betting is the fastest way to make some easy money, but also the fastest, and very stupid, to lose money. Why stupid? Because you have been thinking all day what to play, analyze and try to find right bets and then based on what you saw in 20 or 60 minutes you decide to play live. That cost me nerves and money so many times.
    Some examples:
    You are now watching Liverpool - Arsenal, very interesting game and in first couple minutes were 2 big chances but no goal. The tempo is high and you decide to try your luck with over 1,5 goals in first HT. In 20' minute, game is still very interesting, but goalkeepers have their day and it’s still 0-0. Meanwhile odds rose and now you have situation where odd on over 0,5 goals in first HT worth 2.00. So it's simple, maybe it won't be 2 goals but there will be one for sure, and you will also cover your loss. But once again, so many chances were missed and there were no goals in first HT.
    You will find yourself in situation where you already lost twice, but the game is so good and with this open play and great tempo, there must be goals. So you play again, and again, and again, trying to catch some bigger odds (because now your losses are bigger) and in the end, match finished 0-0 and you realize that you lost all money in less than 2 hours!
    This is very psychological and it’s all about perspective and how you see things in certain period of time.
    For example: After 0-0 HT odds on over 1.5 goals were 2.00. In 60’ minute result is 0-1 and now odds on over 1,5 goals are 1.40. When it was 0-0 at 59’minute probable odds on over 1.5 goal were 2.55 and you were far from your decision to play over. But after that goal, you quickly changed your mind and now it’s very possible. Somehow, we forget that 59 minutes, and now we are sure that they will score one more goal!
    It’s logical because one team is losing and they must play open now, they must risk, they will attack and so. But if we pause, and forget about all, like we know nothing about football and see things from another perspective - first 59 minutes were 0-0 and they were unable to score. Then, they score at 60’ minute. Does it logical that they will score one more in just 30 minutes, when they actually couldn’t do it in 59 minutes?
    I just want to say that there is so many factors that can decide match, and different perspective of view, and it’s much harder to predict then it looks at first glance.

    Some of my rules from my experience of live betting:
    - Never bet on team to win after you saw the other team have red card. I can’t even explain how, but in many times team with extra player don’t win! (yesterday I have watched Anderlecht and Rennes, and both of them didn’t managed, even if Rennes had 1-0 in second half)
    - The first half and second half could be two completely different half! Do not chose your pick only based on team performance in first half! Many times, you will see that the other team start to play better in second half. Not only that, sometimes team who looked great in first HT just fallen apart in second HT. Opponent started to read their attacks and found some weak sides of their play and that team lost, even if they were great in first HT.
    - Try not to repeat same bet live, as one you have bet before the match started. Sometimes you will get double win, but quite often you will get double loss.
    - From my experience is better to play overs in matches where have already scored some goals (HT 1-2, 1-1, 2-0, 3-1) than those with results like 0-0, 1-0 or 0-1, even if over 2,5 looks more probable than over 4,5 for example.
    - Once you lose your in play bet, just forget about that match and go one like nothing happened. Don’t try to play just to refund loss.
    For me, live betting is the worst thing that happen in my betting carrier as I simply can’t control myself when I play live. When I lose, I want to play on everything live and all fallen apart. I really like Mariano’s post and think it’s very useful and helpful.

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  • Macot
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    Originally posted by MarianoV6 View Post
    - Betting is not about odds either (for me again), it's about picking the right bet. Yes, i have hear that ''low odds in long run don't help'' stuff many times but this is for those who ''must'' take a bet every day no matter what.
    Very good thoughts MAriano, but of course I need to comment on this: of course it is about odds and only about odds.
    I am sure you won`t bet on Levadiakos v Olympiakos home win @1,10.
    So it is about odds.
    Of course you can have the rule that for instance between @1,75 and 2,25 you are not so choosy if that is your philosophy and you will take a team you decided to bet on, at @1,75 even if realistically odds should be @2,20 but still, it is all about odds as the first example shows.

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  • MarianoV6
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    Some of the rules i follow to keep my discipline and myself in control

    - I don't watch a game to enjoy it, i watch it to gain knowledge for each team. So i don't care if the game is between top teams as at some point, the top team will play against a lower team.

    - It's weekend and there is a game on. The only reason i watch it is not to find a bet, not to spend a couple hours of joy, but to prepare my bet for the next weekend. Always one step ahead, bet is not to live the moment, bet is work.

    - When you find yourself that you watch a game to live the moment, then you're in the gambling side (my opinion).

    - Bet is work, again. Someone has to take it serious.

    - Knowledge is the key as it helps the ''gut feeling''.

    - When it comes to ''gut feeling'', never doubt it, never put a second thought. But only when the first thought is coming from deep inside you, when it comes from it self.

    - Betting is not about money. As long you keep thinking of money, you lose (either because you need money or because you are on a roll and win money). This helps discipline because you are adding more pressure than you already have.

    - Betting is not about odds either (for me again), it's about picking the right bet. Yes, i have hear that ''low odds in long run don't help'' stuff many times but this is for those who ''must'' take a bet every day no matter what.

    - No one is putting a gun in your head so you don't NEED to take any bet. If you feel like you have a winner, then take it. If not, then don't bet.

    - You gain money from betting when you don't lose money (this helps discipline as well). People lose money because they are letting their feelings get involved. For example, A guy is placing a bet, it isn't going as he thought, he either place another bet to cover or he is taking another bet later to cover his loss. At the end of the day, he is losing 10 bets and win 2 (hence the ''low odds in long run'' thing). It is a failure, not because of the low odds thing but because feelings are getting involved. If you lose one bet, then another day when you will have self control you will cover it and the next time you will be in profit. So in total of 3 bets, you lost one and won 2. It all comes down then to stakes.

    - If you need more money, simple increase the stakes, not the number of bets placed. Keep control.

    - There is no such thing as ''sure'' bet, we will always lose.

    - There is no such thing as 'feelings'' in betting, you must be ice cold. If you lose, it's part of life. Accept it and move on. Never feel overwhelm from winning bets, never feel disappointed or pissed for losing a bet.

    - Avoid placing a bet on every game out there. We are humans, the day has only 24 hours from which 8 are for sleep, we have only one pair of eyes and we cannot cover every league that there is out there in that small period of time.

    - Avoid placing more bets than you have plan to do, let's say in a weekend. You must always know by Friday night which games you will bet and you must stick to them. Yes, there is always the temptation of another game around with good teams, another opportunity which you see or someone has suggested, another probably good bet to place but you are losing control at that point, hence you lose discipline.

    - Avoid placing bets on leagues at which you don't follow regularly.

    - Avoid placing bets on leagues at which you don't have access to information cause of the language or you need translator. You lose time and as i said earlier, we only have less than 16 hours to read and watch highlights.

    - It is better to make yourself an expert in 3-4 leagues than thinking that you have knowledge for 20 leagues. Stick to those leagues (or teams) and never place a bet on another league. As i said, you may think that there are ''good chances'' but that is nothing else than hope. It is not knowledge, it is not betting.

    - Hope has no place in betting as it is another feeling

    - Never blame others when you follow a pick, only yourself. Not because you lost the bet or because he is a bad tipster, but because you allowed yourself to have feelings. Blaming someone leads to being pissed.

    - Always follow yourself as a tipster and never someone else.

    - Yes, there are fixed games out there. The upsets from, let's say normal games, are more than from fixed games.

    - Find the right bet. Go to your bookie, open the available bets for one game and then define which bet is the best to take (assuming that first you have gain latest info and have analyse the game in your head). Over 2.5 doesn't apply to every game out there, sometimes it is better to take ''second half with most goals''. I wrote at some point about Olympiakos for this bet. Check their results and you will see. It's because they are a new team and i' taking advance of the time till they actually become a ''team''. There is always one right bet for each team depending how they react at each game at each moment.

    - When the weekend comes, watch the games you need to watch for the next weekend if you can, not only the ones you have place a bet. If you follow specific teams, then you must act as a squad and gain knowledge for their next opponent.

    - It helps a lot if you discuss your bet cause there are arguments which you might miss (if you are a stubborn ).

    I wrote a lot but you should always try and put more rules until you find the right rules for you in order to keep your discipline and self control. Hope what i wrote to help you and may you find your way in betting!

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  • bettor2017
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    In my opinion, the main problem here is related to psychology and the lack of self-control. So try to read the articles about the Betting Psychology, maybe there you can find something useful for yourself: http://sportstatist.com/category/betting-psychology/

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  • inter1977
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    thank you for advice.

    my typical situation: weekend. I work really hard to find and choise bets bets for weekend and than i place my bets both for Saturday and Sunday. Then i see on TV some top matches and take and pkace some bets (usually on live betting) . No matter of i win or lose i place new bets..Ao had a lot of days when i win my main bets, lose a lott on live betting and destroy my bankroll

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