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    ibc=maxbet=1bet continues to deliberately void bets approximately once in a month. If you remember epic case when ibc voided bets for Real Madrid game after game already finished.
    Yesterday I made 3 bets on club friendly game, all 3 were voided. I don't know when: sportmarket provides no info and it's not clear whether it was voided before kick-off or after game ended.
    Odds dropped from 1.65 to 1.47 and even 1.47 was voided too. It looks like ibc missed rapid odds change which happens in club friendlies very often.
    I will not be suprised if ibc noticed their loss only after game ended like in Real Madrid case.

    I don't know why mollybet software cannot implement industry standart of pinnacle: to send email right after bets were voided or cancelled. There is a place for 1-2 more good and brand-new soccer brokers.

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      Confusion with team names in brokers

      I made bet in soccer broker sportmarket.com for game Santos Laguna II vs "FC Pacific Women".
      I remembered news that Mexican federation wanted to organize women teams into competion in 2017 so I didn't find it weird to see women team in 2nd mexican league.
      Anyway away team's name was wrong, Pacific F.C. played instead.

      sportmarket refused to have responsibility (as they always do):
      We had the wrong team displayed, correct, but there is nothing we can do in this case
      But with wrong team names displayed the only guilty side is broker. If you know, there are Real Sociedad III, Real Sociedad II and the original team playing in Spain. Sometimes it's called Sevilla C, Barcelona B.
      Imagine when in broker it is displayed Real Sociedad III but in bookmaker (and in fact) Real Sociedad II, stronger team, played.
      You were deceived by broker. But in fact all mollybet' agents/brokers will always send you away since they refuse to have any responsibility.
      In most cases they are only intermediate (nevertheless they are receiving 0.125% of your turnover). But in case of wrong team names it's their* sole responsibility to show it correctly.
      * - sportmarket or mollybet.com (molly receives another 0.125% of your effective turnover).

      So, it's hard to find adequate broker right now. Mollybet' brokers are not at your side at all. Mollybet' agents like betinasia should be avoided, it's just a person like you hiding beside that "betasia" signboard, receiving money from you with no obligations to pay back.
      vodds(or eastbridge, it's the same) is definetely better at least in customer relations, they are not bad, but I will not recommend them for other reasons
      Since there is still no fourth power, the only solution I see for now is to disperse your bankroll among vodds,mollybet-broker,asianodds in proportions you like and quickly move your money from discredited broker to other two.

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        afb takes commission even for lost bets

        Silently in sportmarket.com bookmaker afb started to subtract 0.5% commission even for lost bets!

        You see that bet amount was 470 whilst deducted amount includes commission 0.5%.

        There were no notifications about this "innovation".
        Even worse: the amount you risk is shown to you incorrectly on trade page.

        I think all brokers that use mollybet platform are affected.
        I've suspected that all such unknown bookies as igk, winft, lsm, afb cannot be trusted. Avoid betting in other bookies than isn, sbo and pin.

        upd. 9 days later sportmarket added to balance by separate transactions that deducted commissions taken by afb
        Last edited by Raabe; 23-01-18, 18:30.

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          Since today sportmarket lowered usual bet limit in ibc on my account from 82,5 euro to 49,5 euro which is a reduction of exactly 40%.
          Check your limit in mollybet broker if you have one. It could be limit reduction only for me. Or sportmarket was forced by ibc to have 60% PT (position taking).

          How your limits gets smaller if you place smart bets.
          ibcbet require agents to take a minimum of 40% position taking on all its downline win/loss. Unless the agent want to risk , the effective stake is only 60%
          One more guy experienced only 60% of limit on his account
          I'm worried how my account lived almost a year not being marked "smart bets"
          Last edited by Raabe; 27-01-18, 12:12.

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            I partly understood problem with PT. It looks like sportmarket does not discriminate clients. And accounts in bookies are shared between all users. But it's still a fact: limits for ibc are decreased by 20-40% last month.

            Last week sportmarket support is not answering for hours. I don't know why.

            There is a problem with isn bookie. Sometimes bets are in status "Placing" for 15 minutes, sometimes even more - for hours. Because support is slow now it can be that game already started but you don't know whether your bet was accepted or not.

            And one more thing is bad in unresponsible brokers. Some games are played in distinct format like 2 halfs for 40 minutes. In this friendly game format was 2x40mins but sportmarket as always provided no information about that.
            Bookies on their websites usually provide information if odds are given considering different time format. But in broker you will never see that information. So in cases game format is unusual you are deceived.

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              Yet another disappointment with sportmarket.com soccer broker.
              Imagine that you see "Open stakes" value on balance page
              ~500 euro less than
              sum of open bets on another page

              It happens some times but very rarely so big difference (500 euro). And almost never for so long (14 hours of inconsistency for now)

              What is more bizarre sportmarket answered that "it's OK":
              Nothing to be worried about as all the bets are accounted for correctly. Usually, these issues resolve themselves during the day.

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                So, if game is rescheduled, you will get problems.
                We had a conversation with the developers and here is what must've happened.
                1. Some settled bets are displayed in the Open bets section (we are aware of this bug and there is a script that fixes this on daily basis).
                2. Orders are combined from different bets, obviously. Sometimes it can happen that one specific event has been rescheduled for day after; that will make certain BETS void, but the order will remain up with full stake, regardless of the void bet.
                These 2 reasons must be the case here.
                This script that fixes the bug on a daily basis is the most reassuring thing.

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                  Nature of inconsistency shown above is still unknown. Sportmarket only tells you to believe that total balance is calculated correctly.
                  But balance is calculated unreliably too. Just to show how erroneous mollybet platform is: about 15 "value updates" happened few hours ago. Calculation of bets made in sbo were corrected. If bet of 100 was half-lost, result from -45 was deducted to -50 and so on. Even won bets were calculated improperly and that "bot" corrected calculations.
                  One bet for game played at Feb,28 is still shown as open despite I was reassured twice that bet is calculated correctly.

                  Does the same happens from time to time in asianodds, vodds systems?

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                    Originally posted by Raabe View Post
                    Nature of inconsistency shown above is still unknown. Sportmarket only tells you to believe that total balance is calculated correctly.
                    But balance is calculated unreliably too. Just to show how erroneous mollybet platform is: about 15 "value updates" happened few hours ago. Calculation of bets made in sbo were corrected. If bet of 100 was half-lost, result from -45 was deducted to -50 and so on. Even won bets were calculated improperly and that "bot" corrected calculations.
                    One bet for game played at Feb,28 is still shown as open despite I was reassured twice that bet is calculated correctly.

                    Does the same happens from time to time in asianodds, vodds systems?
                    I have to agree on how dodgy sportmarket is on those things.
                    Platform is good, has some good features, but you never know how much the exchanges commision is going to be and now there is also some "kickback" thing where they take a bit more money and the official excuse is that "this is due complexity of the system an inability to display everything as commission" (??).
                    Of course you can always avoid using exchanges and this things shouldn't happen.
                    Also had the same issue with sportmarket bets on SBO today, I had some "kickback" money back on a couple of bets and they "fixed" this, i.e. they removed money from my account and who knows if they are keeping it or what.

                    Asianodds is much more reliable on those things. There are no exchanges available so maybe odds are not that high on some bets, but there are no commisions and everything is much clearer. What you see is what you get, nothing hidden.
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                      MNC, no one will trust them if they add some money, subtract some later.
                      betfair odds in betslip are shown incorrectly. Sportmarket never managed to apply 2.3% of commission correctly. If you see 2.26 in betslip, real odds are like 2.255.
                      In January I had limits in ibc for lower leagues like 82 euro, now I couldn't get more that 61 euro. 25% decrease of limit. Their service is getting worse.
                      Last what I've seen about asianodds in forums was not in their favor. I remember that in their API odds were shown incorrectly.

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                        Try asianodds for yourself and you can see if it's like that.

                        The day asianodds adds exchanges (with a fair and clear commisions fees) and the chance to place an order for higher odds than available, I have no doubts that I will stop using sportmarkets.
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                          If you have message "live data error please contact your software provider" on mollybet platform possible solution may be updating or changing your browser.
                          After update aggregated history of bets started to work correctly. I can't understand how placing bets was working while simple bet history was not.

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                            Sportmarket continued to descrease limits. 55 euro instead of 61 euro now is a limit for lower leagues in ibc (3 weeks ago it was 82)
                            Right now game Floresta EC (CE) - Fortaleza EC (CE)
                            Full time over (limits for ibc): 88.5 in sportmarket, 151 in vodds
                            Half time over: 55 in sportmarket, 93 euro in ibc
                            What limits do you have on that positions?

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                              FT o 2.75 - 100 e
                              HT o 1 - 61 e
                              only ibc for now, that's a pure Molly client
                              bside777 at Blogabet

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                                Hi Raabe, thanks for your work here. I just sent a pm (question about limits) thx

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