new to online betting, a question.

[drazic1132]

hey guys, just spend a few hours reading everyones stories and advice, its been really interesting.

ive been having a little dabble in online betting for a few weeks now and have a question about multiple betting so any help appreciated.

E.G.

If i have a 7 game accumilator and on those 7 games also place a stake on "doubles" "trebles" "4 from 7" "5 from 7" and "6 from 7" and ALL 7 win, do i win on ALL bets (6 in total) or just the accumilator??

also, if only 5 of the 7 games win do i win on the doubles, trebles, 4 from 7 and 5 from 7?? or what??? how is it all worked out??

im quite confused. 8O

ANY help appreciated.

Drazic

[drazic1132]

so i see someone with enough knowlegde to moderate this board has moved me but not replied.

thanks guys.

[bulldog]

Hi drazic.

Yes, if all your 7 games are correct you win all the bets you've placed, from accumulator to doubles.

If just 5 out of 7 are correct, you win all the bets without these missed picks. You'll have 1 "5 out of 7", some "4 out of 7", some trebles, some doubles. I've no time to tell you the exact number of correct bets now, maybe later.

Anyway, you need a big amount of units to make this kind of bet and a lot of luck to have it correct, so my humble advice is to avoid it and concentrate yourself on singles (preferably), doubles or trebles.

Good luck for your online bets!

[darkside222]

Don't worry Drazic about moving the post. The mods have to keep some sort of tidyness in the forum.
The answer is yes. If you have played 7 games and you ask for doubles,trebles, 4-folds, 5-folds, 6-folds and the accumulator and you win 5 games out of the seven then you win a 5-fold, 5 4-folds, 10 trebles and the doubles.
But be careful when you place bets like that because you have to pick high odds to make profit. Otherwise with a success rate of 71.5 % (which is the case of 5/7 you might lose money.
I suggest you to play singles. In that way with 5/7 you'll be no matter what in profit (not very big but you won't be losing money...
I hope I was helpful enough..........
Be wise when you pick!

[Axl]

Hi drazic.

Yes, if all your 7 games are correct you win all the bets you've placed, from accumulator to doubles.

If just 5 out of 7 are correct, you win all the bets without these missed picks. You'll have 1 "5 out of 7", some "4 out of 7", some trebles, some doubles. I've no time to tell you the exact number of correct bets now, maybe later.

Anyway, you need a big amount of units to make this kind of bet and a lot of luck to have it correct, so my humble advice is to avoid it and concentrate yourself on singles (preferably), doubles or trebles.

Good luck for your online bets!

Just to add on what Gianluca said... when you take 7 "accumulated" bets, you are actually betting on:
7 singles
21 doubles
35 triples
35 "4 out of 7"
21 "5 out of 7"
7 "6 out of 7"
1 "7 out of 7"
and that will make a total of 127 bets.

So if you win 5 out of 7 bets, you have actually won:
5 singles out of your 7 singles
10 doubles out of your 25 doubles
10 triples out of your 35 triples
5 "4 out of 7" out of your 35 "4 out of 7" and
1 "5 out of 7" out of your 25 "5 out of 7"

Hope this doesn't confuse you :wink:

[bulldog]

Just to add on what Gianluca said...

Very nice of you, Axl... :wink:

[PRAG]

The most important factor is the average odds of your 7 picks !!!
That, in turn, determines your rough expectation of correct hits (i.e. how many out of 7 you'll get correct). Even so, however, it's NOT a matter of betting knowledge, but a matter of simple arithmetic !!! Some choices WILL result in bankruptcy if you ignore the odds. The post by Axl, for example, correctly gives you the number of bets you'll be taking, BUT it's worthless if you don't know the average odds. Here's a rough guide (assuming you're NOT taking singles or doubles - the only 100% correct choice - at all) :

A/ 7 picks of average odds 1.20-1.40
>>>>>Take 6-folds + 7-folds ONLY ..................... :arrow: CORRECT
>>>>>Take trebles + 7-folds ONLY ..................... :arrow: CORRECT
>>>>>Take anything else (eg. 3-4-5-6-7-folds)... :arrow: BANKRUPTCY

B/ 7 picks of average odds 1.50-1.80
>>>>>Take trebles + 6-folds + 7-folds ................ :arrow: CORRECT
>>>>>Take trebles + 7-folds ONLY....................... :arrow: EVEN MORE CORRECT
>>>>>Take anything else (eg. 5-6-7-folds).......... :arrow: BANKRUPTCY

C/ 7 picks of average odds 2.00-3.00
>>>>>Take trebles + 6-folds + 7-folds................ :arrow: CORRECT
>>>>>Take trebles + 7-folds ONLY...................... :arrow: EVEN MORE CORRECT
>>>>>Take anything else (eg. 3-4-6-7-folds)...... :arrow: BANKRUPTCY

D/ 7 picks of average odds 3.00+
>>>>>Take trebles + 6-folds + 7-folds................ :arrow: VERY MUCH CORRECT
>>>>>Take trebles + 7-folds ONLY...................... :arrow: VERY MUCH CORRECT
>>>>>Take anything else (eg. 6-7-folds)............ :arrow: CATASTROPHY

Try out on paper these permutations yourself, Drazic, and you'll find out that the odds are the most important thing !!! Don't assume you'll get ALL 7, or 6 out of 7, correct all the time !!! Try out, for example, what happens if you get 4/7 correct in case you've played 3-4-5-6-7-folds... You'll see what I mean immediately :wink:



Cheers 8)

[Axl]

Just to add on what Gianluca said...

Very nice of you, Axl... :wink:

My friend, u are always welcome :wink:

And to Drazic... what Prag has mentioned is a must-know if you are seriously into this kind betting... and I believe you will need to do more homework.

However, I would strongly recommend you not to take anything more than 4-folds or 5-folds... unless, of course, you just wanna try out your luck.

I do this most of the time, taking a 8-folds to 10-folds combo with a minimum stake and no permutations... just for fun.

So, good luck with your online betting. :wink:

[drazic1132]

cheers prag,

i have been looking at the info you showed me and inserting it into the bet calculator for previous bets i have made, for a few more quid i would have covered my bet and i would have won every time.

I think i shall use what you have showed me a few times to see how it fares out for me.

regards,

Draz

[drazic1132]

guys,

just did the whole treble, 6 and 7 bet... on the bet calculator is said my returns on the treble should be £34 but when it came in i only had £7 winnings.

why?? is it cos the winnings are worked out on the odds of the 3 winning bets only????

cheers,

Drazic

[darkside222]

You answered your question Drazic...Good luck with your bets today!

[drazic1132]

cheers, just another small Q sorry.

5 of my 8 bets won, so how are the odds worked out for the winnings?

is it the lowest 3 odds, the first 3 odds??

cheers

draz

[lOZ]

Could someone please recommend a good detailed information site or a book about "value betting". I've read most of the free info on the Internet which hass been very useful.

The theory behind it certainly makes sense, but It wold be useful for a beginner like me to see how more experienced tipsters use value betting in practice. By this I mean, the thought processes which go in to picking a particular value bet from the many possible value bets on offer on any given day and so on.

Is there a place on the Internet wheere I can actually see a tipster apply value betting and posting his/her record so I can get a feel for this.

thanks for any help you can give.