Kula-Cska(24.08)

[_PierrePoetik]

3.50 3.20 1.95 :arrow: playit

[Grobba]

The match will be played on neutral ground (Red Star stadium in Belgrade) and Kula don't have many supporters anyway. Hajduk Kula playing in bad shape for last two games after lucky 0-0 draw in Sofia. Lost at OFK 1-5 and home vs Apatin 0-2. CSKA in bad shape. They should have won first leg by goal or two margin, but Kula goalie was miraculous and they were unlucky to score. Waiting for bulgarian friends for some fresh info on CSKA squad. Hajduk expected to play with more or less the same squad, maybe slightly more open (which will not be hard because they only defended in Sofia), but not much because with scoring draw CSKA also advances. I think Kula are aware of quality difference and they will play on counter attacks in Kula also. If Kula defence hasn't been shaken in last two domestic matches, I would be totally in favour of UNDER here, and probably that remains best bet together with CSKA not to lose, but AW odds around 2,0 are also tempting. To conclude, I think it is almost impossible for Kula to advance.

[Grobba]

Made a lapsus above - CSKA is ofcourse in very good form after 1st leg (totally opposit of Kula) winning 3-0 Plovdiv and 1-0 away to Litex. From what I saw in 1st leg vs Kula, pritty good squad IMO.

[MvP]

Agree CSKA is much better but where out of luck in first leg. HAjduk is out of form and will mostly defent in Belgrade. Away win possible or mayby 1:1 result.

[mij0sim]

I think that it will be under.Kula is going to defend and will play on counter attacks like always.CSKA will probably score and then try to defend that lead. Possible Results 0:1 0:2 1:1

[nidzika]

In the first game CSKA was 5 times better. Till first game (ended 0-0) I didn't see any other game where one team missed that number of chances. OK, maybe i saw few other games like this, but it was really unbeliveable that CSKA didn't manage to score few goals.

This 2nd game will be on neutral ground. Stadium in Kula doesn't have UEFA licence, so this game will be in Belgrade. Kula is small place, so Hajduk don't have lot of funs. In Belgrade they will not have any funs I think. Well, on stadium it will be people who have nothing to do on that day. They will come to kill some time watching the game. Yes, they will be with Hajduk, but it will be some scream from time to time from croud like "come on". Nothing more.

Quality difference is really huge. I believe that Hajduk can't go to the next round. Practical, I am sure about that. Hajduk's players also know fact that CSKA have more quality, so they will try to slow this game as more as it is possible hoping to score from some counter atack. On the other side, CSKA will have the ball more in their legs and they will atack with everything they have.

I know that 1-1 or 2-2 or any other draw with goals suite well for CSKA, but difference in quality is definetly on CSKA side and I am expecting from them to show that on field and to score few goals.

If CSKA score first i thing that they will win for sure. In that scenario Hajduk must score 2 goals. They will open and practical that will be disaster for them. If Hajduk score first I am sure that CSKA will score, too. It will be 1-1 in that situation. Well, people will say that 1-1 is fine for CSKA. Yes, it is but for Hajduk it isn't. Hajduk will atack to score 2nd and they can't play atacking against CSKA, becouse you can't atack more quality team from yourself and not to be punished becouse of that open play.

To summarize this story: I don't care becouse draw suite well for CSKA. After first game, 0-0 in Sofia and from everything I saw watching that game it must be only one logical bet: CSKA to win. Odds 1.95 is really really good. Bookie will first slash these odds for sure, and lot of them will remove this game from offer.

Everything more then 1.75 on CSKA Sofia is value I think. Becouse if this lovely odds I will be on CSKA with very high stake.

I just saw that Interwetten have 2.30 on CSKA Sofia. I don't have account there but this is insane.

CSKA Sofia to win 9/10

[Milos NS]

Originally Posted by mij0sim

I think that it will be under.Kula is going to defend and will play on counter attacks like always.CSKA will probably score and then try to defend that lead. Possible Results 0:1 0:2 1:1

Agree with this 101%!!! Why?

Don't forget that Red Star will play against AC Milan at same stadium two days earlier!!! Weather is from today little rainy in Serbia, so big match in tuesday, than just two days to recover pitch... :roll: Well, yes Maracana is best stadium in Serbia, but it's not San Siro to fix grass in 2 days time...

UNDER best option.

[kum ruzvelt]

board of hajduk told they will put very high ticket price ,around 60 eur :!: ,that make cska board very mad ,and they want to complain uefa about that,so i think if ticket price will be that high nobody will be on maracana stadion on thursday,hajduk in bad form they lose 5-1 vs ofk belgrade,and 2-0 at home vs mladost ,and i think cska should win this one,also under is very good choice.

[kolioop]

sorry for out of topic but is Uefa officials crazy 8O. How they could allow to play 2 games on the same pitch in the space of 2 days 8O It is very hard to imagine. I was going to bet on straith win for CSKA, but now i think under i s better. In such a pitch and with Kula only defending even 0-0 is possible. I think that in the previous game it was bad weather (correct me if I am wrong) and it caused bad play from CSKa , I mean not good passing etc. ? Am I right?

[nasko100]

Originally Posted by kolioop

I think that in the previous game it was bad weather (correct me if I am wrong) and it caused bad play from CSKa , I mean not good passing etc. ? Am I right?

True, there was big rain in Sofia before the game and pitch was heavy and slippery.

[tentacle]

i've got 2.20 for CSKA (skybet). It's a really good value and like it was said CSKA was much better than Kula in the first match so I think they should score even if kula plays with 10 players back (180mins should be enough for at least one goal). There's not gonna be real pressure from the crowd anyway, I think even with prices high, bulgarians will be in some numbers at marakana? correct me if i am wrong.

gluck

[latso]

Originally Posted by tentacle

i've got 2.20 for CSKA (skybet). It's a really good value and like it was said CSKA was much better than Kula in the first match so I think they should score even if kula plays with 10 players back (180mins should be enough for at least one goal). There's not gonna be real pressure from the crowd anyway, I think even with prices high, bulgarians will be in some numbers at marakana? correct me if i am wrong.

gluck

the latest news are that after the complain of CSKA, Kula's managers are forced from UEFA to lower the prices of the tickets.
If this happens, CSKA will have more suporters on the stands than the "home" team. Partisan and CSKA in very good relationships and there will be some of them with the Bulgarian fans. With the small number of Kula suporters overall, i think CSKA will be like home.
I don't think that it should be a problem for any pitch from middle class to take 2 games in two days :roll: . It will be football played and not rodeo mates, there is no reason for this good pitch to be anykind of bad after the Zvezda - Milan match.
My expectation is a nice away win and i will invest 8 stakes in it.
I'm wondering if 9 wouldn't be even better but i'll see.
GL

[TheOnly1]

Some quick facts:
1. CSKA scored at least 1 goal in every single away match in Europe in the last 2 years.
2. CSKA is traditionally strong away team. Last 6 away games in Europe:
SK Tirana - CSKA 0:2
Liverpool - CSKA 0:1
Bayer 04 - CSKA 0:1
Slavia Praha - CSKA 4:2
AS Monaco - CSKA 2:1
Dinamo Tirana - CSKA 0:1

CSKA won all away games in the new season without even allowing a goal:
Dinamo Tirana - CSKA 0:1 (UEFA QR1)
Cherno More - CSKA 0:2 (A PFG - R1)
Litex - CSKA 0:1 (A PFG - R3)

So some good bets IMO are:
:arrow: CSKA to score a goal
:arrow: CSKA to keep a clean sheet
:arrow: AW - The last awat draw in Europe is 2 years back against Omonia.
:arrow: UNDER although a bit risky. If CSKA scores early in the game the result could easily be OVER. Bear in mind that CSKA has an easy home game on sunday so there is a big chance they won't rest evem if they know they are qualified.

[kum ruzvelt]

i find odds drop on cska here on 1.8 :roll: it seems to me as an aw.does bulgarian fans and our brothers from cska knows how many fans will came in belgrade?.i read in newspaper partizan fans will came on stadium to give support cska sofia.that will be great.go partizan and cska :!:

[Lino88]

My prediction is deleted due to lack of explanation / Hill

[TheOnly1]

kum: I guess CSKA fans will be 1000-1500. News from today. All CSKA players except V.Iliev and fir are fit and will play. Coach Markov will most likely field the same 11 that won the games in Varna and Lovech. This means something like this:

.................................I.Petrov......... .........................
Y.Todorov...........K.Kotev.......Al.Tunchev...... .R.Petrov
......................G.Iliev.........S.Jakirovic. .....................
...Fl.Petre....................................... ........Tiago Silva..
......................E.Trica...........V.Dimitrov ....................

Changes compared to first match:
V.Iliev out (injured) :arrow: K.Kotev in
Dah Zaadi out (bad form) :arrow: E.Trica in

Trica missed the game in Sofia due to injury. Just to point out that he scored 3 out of 5 goals against Dinamo Tirana :idea:

I took AW with high stakes @1.85 and hope not regret it A fun bet may be first goalscorer to be Trica or Tunchev! Tunchev has already 2 goals in the bulgarian league :idea:

[arttex]

From what I saw in the first game, CSKA is exactly one class above the Hajduk. It wasn't defensively oriented tactics by the Hajduk, or that their aim was to keep 0:0, they were just lucky not to lose with 2:0 or 3:0. Great day of their goalkeeper and some posts and bars, if I remember well. It doesn't matter how many fans will CSKA have, Hajduk for sure wont have 40.000. In one nice and clean game, there's no doubt: Sure win for CSKA, they should control this from beginning 'till end, and Hajduk can't be so lucky twice. At least, I hope that CSKA is a serious club. Hajduk isn't. But I guess, you never know with football these days.

[Grobba]

I got the info that initially claimed ticket prices remain the same, costing around 60 EUR !!! 8O

Suppose that aim of the Kula boss is not to have CSKA fans on stadium, because Hajduk has no fans anyway. The explanation is that renting Marakana from Red Star will cost Hajduk 200,000, but even if that is true that's bullshit cause I don't see who will buy the tickets at 60 EUR price?!

Still, this info is not 100% confirmed but suppose that can't be changed an hour or two before the game, and we are talking about game beginning in 24 hours.

[TheOnly1]

The Hajduk boss is an (censored). According to UEFA rules the ticket prices for the visiting team may not be higher than comparable places for home team supporters. On the other side they MUST provide a total of 250 FREE tickets for fans of the visiting team. We will see what happens My wild guess is that CSKA will give the 250 free tickets to the fans and the club will sponsor the rest to some extent as has happened in Albania against Dinamo where only 2 fans has to actually pay for their tickets and that was only because they arrived too late and missed the free tickets.

[Triger]

Tickets are so expensive because Hajduk doesn't want hardcore Partizan supporters to came and support CSKA?

At those prices they will just lose motive :P

[avok]

The official news from Bulgaria:

UEFA has requested drop of the tickets prices to 5 Euro from Haiduk. If they don't comply they will be severely punished by denying all their income from UEFA cup.

CSKA team for tomorrow:
Keepers: Ivaylo Petrov and Ilko Pirgov
Defenders: Aleksandr Tunchev, Francisko Martos, Kiril Kotev, Valentin Iliev, Robert Petrov, Tiago Silva, Ivan Ivanov
Midfield: Sergey Qkirovich, Georgi Iliev, Florentin Petre, Yordan Xrukov, Yordan Todorov and Daniel Georgiev
Forwards: Velizar Dimitrov, Miroslav Manolov, Eugen Trika, Giyom Da Zaadi

[CSKA Sofia]

In my opinion CSKA Sofia should be a huge favourite in this game...

Just looking over their last away results in European Cups:
SK Tirana - CSKA 0:2 CL
Liverpool - CSKA 0:1 CL
Bayer 04 - CSKA 0:1 UEFA
Slavia Praha - CSKA 4:2 UEFA
AS Monaco - CSKA 2:1 UEFA
Dinamo Tirana - CSKA 0:1 UEFA

Kula are newcomers in europe;CSKA have much better players and 0-0 registered in first leg will make them playing offensive now...CSKA should win...I have @2,10 odds and I'll take it high :!:

[TBQGS]

i find odds drop on cska here on 1.8 it seems to me as an aw.does bulgarian fans and our brothers from cska knows how many fans will came in belgrade?.i read in newspaper partizan fans will came on stadium to give support cska sofia.that will be great.go partizan and cska

Whatever you guys say... Hajduk came back home undefeated from Sofia. And will remain undefeated today. Maybe wont go through but wont lose either.

And for those so called "Serbs" who are celebrating that Grobari will come to support Bulgarian team against a one from Serbia (kum ruzvelt)... Shame on you! You are disgrace of this country!

C'mon Hajduk! C'mon Serbia!

[avok]

Hajduk came back home undefeated from Sofia. And will remain undefeated today. Maybe wont go through but wont lose either.

I suppose that can happen. But only on theory :lol:

Yesterday Levski Sofia knocked out chievo verona with 4-2 agregate and is now into the champions league groups. Cheers to all bulgarian fens

CSKA Sofia is roughly the same level as Levski. They often compete for the championship in Bulgaria. And now CSKA is on fire. I don't think nothing except for huge luck will save Haiduk from defeat.

[ChristopherBG]

Originally Posted by CSKA Sofia

Just looking over their last away results in European Cups:
SK Tirana - CSKA 0:2 CL
Liverpool - CSKA 0:1 CL
Bayer 04 - CSKA 0:1 UEFA
Slavia Praha - CSKA 4:2 UEFA
AS Monaco - CSKA 2:1 UEFA

So, what ? This year's team has nothing in common with the last year's one. Even the coach is not the same. And if you look at the tactics behind these results you will remember Cska played defensively in all the games they won and the only time they tried to attack the result was Slavia Prague 4, Cska 2.
I'm not saying Cska is not the favorite to win this one, but remember that a 1-1 or 2-2 draw is also an option.

[zecky]

NO BET, something isn't OK here, lot's of different odds on this match. At last BWin is remove this game from list

[Velixxx]

Originally Posted by zecky

NO BET, something isn't OK here, lot's of different odds on this match. At last BWin is remove this game from list

Ofcourse that this game should be blocked in some bookies or at least odds will be drop significaly because lot of people bet on CSKA and with reason.The same situation is with Brann and Wisla but I took Cska when it was 2.2 for win now at my local odd is 1.7. Like people said Cska is almost a better team when they playing away(remember last year Liverpool) and they have bunch of good and experience players and built their squad for years to come.

GL

[Petas28]

Hajduk last season home

2. Hajduk 15 11 4 0 28 : 6 37 8O 8O 8O

[kamei24]

Yep but now they don't play on their stadium, which is by the way lot smaller then Marakana in Belgrade..

[siryordanov]

CSKA had a great away game against Litex last weekend where they won 1:0 and the pragmatic approach of Plamen Markov toward the match based on more defensive football and counter-attacks was very well chosen by the coach. The defensive line was flawless, the midfielders destroyed every attmept of the home side to do something reasonable and to control the game. Indeed, great game in tactical apsect.
Today, CSKA Sofia is of course a favourite to win against Hajduk Kula, but there is one thing that bothers me the most - the lack of quality strikers!
Sakaliev has been injured for a long time, Furtado is also out. Giyom Da Zaadi is not a player whom you can rely on to score important goals. Velizar Dimitrov is the only quality striker in CSKA and he will be in the starting eleven tonight for sure.
The new signing Alesandru Pitzurka (a forward) is ineligible for this game.
My point is that Haijduk will play defensively, they will count on counter-attacks and I think that CSKA will have problems scoring goals. The tonight match will be very different than the last one with Litex, because CSKA will have to attack constantly, but we remember the first game in Sofia, where CSKA didn't stop attacking, however, the lack of enough finishing power did cost a lot.
I have no doubts that our team will win, however I beleive the match will not be easy and the result will be no more than 0:1 or 0:2. Of course, anything can happen, but I also think that UNDER is a sure bet.