NBA 14.12.2010

MilosS · 14-12-10, 08:40

(01:00) Charlotte (-4,5) - Toronto, ML 1.53

(01:00) New Jersey - Philadelphia (-1), ML 1.91

(01:00) Washington - LA Lakers (-8), ML 1.15

(01:30) Detroit - Atlanta (-4), ML 1.56

(02:30) Houston (-9.5) - Sacramento, ML 1.21

(03:00) Denver (-1)- Orlando, ML 1.93

(04:30) Golden State (-3) - Minnesota, ML 1.55

MilosS · 14-12-10, 10:45

Charlotte Bobcats vs Toronto Craptors

New Jersey Nets vs Philadelphia 76ers

Washington Wizards vs LA Lakers

Detroit Pistons vs Atlanta Hawks

Houston Rockets vs Sacramento Kings

Denver Nuggets vs Orlando Magic

Golden State Warriors vs Minnesota T'wolves

MilosS · 14-12-10, 11:10

Important streaks -

Charlotte Bobcats:

*11 consecutive games with less 3-point attempts
*4 consecutive games with less 3-point made
*3 consecutive games with more turnovers
*3 consecutive games with more fouls

Toronto Raptors

*6 consecutive games with less 3-point attempts
*4 consecutive games with less rebounds

New Jersey Nets:

*7 consecutive losses
*7 consecutive games with lower efficiency recap
*7 consecutive games with less defensive rebounds
*7 consecutive games with less assists
*5 consecutive games with lower field-goals percentage
*3 consecutive home losses

Philadelphia 76ers:

*8 consecutive road losses
*5 consecutive games with more defensive rebounds
*4 consecutive games with more 3-point attempts
*4 consecutive games with more 3-point made

Washington Wizards:

*7 consecutive games with less rebounds
*4 consecutive games with lower efficiency recap
*4 consecutive losses

LA Lakers:

*6 consecutive games with less turnovers
*6 consecutive games with less 3-point attempts
*4 consecutive games with lower free-throws percentage
*3 consecutive games with less rebounds

Detroit Pistons:

*4 consecutive games with lower field-goals percentage
*4 consecutive losses
*4 consecutive games with lower efficiency recap
*4 consecutive games with less 3-point made
*4 consecutive games with lower 3-point percentage

Atlanta Hawks:

*3 consecutive games with more defensive rebounds

Houston Rockets:

*10 consecutive games with more 3-point made
*5 consecutive home wins
*4 consecutive games with more free-throws made

Sacramento Kings:

*10 consecutive games with more fouls
*5 consecutive road losses
*4 consecutive games with more field-goals attempts
*3 consecutive games with more offensive rebounds

Denver Nuggets:

*9 consecutive home wins
*6 consecutive games with less field-goals made

Orlando Magic:

*9 consecutive games with less steals
*5 consecutive games with less assists
*5 consecutive games with more turnovers
*4 consecutive games with lower free-throws percentage

Golden State Warriors:

*10 consecutive games with less free-throws made
*6 consecutive games with lower efficiency recap
*6 consecutive losses
*5 consecutive home losses

Minnesota T'wolves:

*7 consecutive road losses
*3 consecutive games with less free-throws attempts
*3 consecutive games with lower free-throws percentage
*3 consecutive games with less free-throws made
*3 consecutive games with more 3-point attempts

MilosS · 14-12-10, 12:05

Again, I'm sorry because I won't be able to write full previews, I'm traveling in one hour and will be without internet.

Here are some of my bets for tonight with short explanation -

Charlotte Bobcats ML - They will bounce back after horrifying loss against Celtics and Raptors poor defense should help them overcome their recent shooting woes. The Bobcats have enough experience to overcame and forget that last game and I'm sure Michael Jordan gave them a lesson afterwards. 6/10

Atlanta Hawks ML - Hawks are flying high recently, they're 8-2 with two losses against Top teams like Spurs and Heat. They are 11-3 versus teams with losing records and visiting struggling Pistons should improve that record for another win. Pistons are playing awful bball right now, their starting five is producing the worst numbers in NBA head-to-head with Cavaliers. They can't rebound, they can't score - everything where Hawks should dominate tonight, especially in the paint. 8/10

Golden State Warriors - Minnesota Timberwolves - Two offensive minded teams, with no trouble scoring over 105-110 and allowing even more; my bet is quite obvious -over 217.5. Both teams are struggling, winning games has never been tougher; the Warriors dropped last 7 while T'wolves have lost nine of 11. So, If you are willing to pick either HW or AW - skip it. This is a typical coin-flip game and as I already said - over points is the right bet. Bookies are biased a little because Wolves had an awful game in Chicago and scored only 82 points, but comparing Bulls defense with Warriors' is total mismatch. This should be a typical 115-110 game, something like that. 6/10

Be$t of luck!

MilosS · 14-12-10, 12:24

Also adding 76ers (-1) - They are riding hight atm, they have 3rd best bench in NBA with Thaddeus Young being the 6th Man and also Louis Williams who is one of the most improved PG's in league. Everything is clicking for the 76ers right now - defense where they have a lot of versatile and athletic players, especially in the paint + Jodie Meeks their starting PG is shooting like crazy from 3-point line and most importantly their transition in offense is working great - Elton Brand is definitely showing sings of once All-Star player. The Nets have a lot of trouble right now, they've lost 7 straight games + Devin Harris is bothered with shoulder and ankle injuries and his struggle is obvious. Their 2nd best player Brooke Lopez is struggling with shoot selection (44% in FG this season) although he is picking up points in every game. All in all, we have two totally different teams at the moment and I'm going with the "hot" one. Best of luck! 7/10

sentetiyen · 14-12-10, 13:02

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Originally Posted by MilosS

And there is no need to spend words about Warriors, one of the most entraining NBA teams; they execute their offense in 10-12 second where Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry have the leading roles. They are just scoring machines.

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Originally Posted by MilosS

Bookies are biased a little because Wolves had an awful game in Chicago and scored only 82 points 6/10

Be$t of luck!

I think you are biased a little about Warriorrs.They are not the same team as you think this year .They are not executing their offence in 10-12 seconds ,they are not scoring machines anymore ; last year they were scoring 108.8 ppg and allowing 112.4 ppg ,this year 100.6/107 ..They have just 8 overs and 16 unders this year ..

This season first game against Minnesota ,their FG% was 50.6 and 3PT% was 66.7 and they reached just to 104 points.. If they had these percentages in any game last year, it could easily be more than 120 ..Warriors held Wolves %39 shooting percentage which is as low as you could never see in last years ..
Their FG% was 50 and 3PT% was 50 against Phoenix and they scored 101 points , it was %54 for Phoenix and the Suns scored 107 points ... If they executed their offence in 10-12 seconds with these percentages the final score would be around 128-135 ,but it was 101-107 ..

MilosS · 14-12-10, 13:12

yep mate, I totally agree that Warriors are not even close with scoring like they were last year, but for tonight all I am saying is that over 217.5 is a good bet - because both Wolves and Warriors suck at defense. I took Warriors over only 2-3 times this season, I don't say they are "over machines or smth".... I watched them a couple of times and decided to wait at least 10-15 rounds more before taking o/u on them. But tonight is the right opportunity to score a lot, so that's why I chose over. GL!

mi duLce Locura · 14-12-10, 15:09

Very important missing for Toronto Raptors is Jose Calderon who is averaging some good points about 12,3 if i remember good and also their assist leader ... so on the other side DJ Augustin will found a lot of space for himself ... and also Peja Stojakovic and Reggie Evans best rebounder of the team are out , so Raptors will have some depth problems ... I think this is good chance for captains of the Charlotte Jackson and Wallace to step up and take a win against struggling Raptors ... Charlotte Money line at 1,65 is good option also -4,5 is very relative to happen... GL

MilosS · 14-12-10, 15:17

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Originally Posted by mi duLce Locura

Very important missing for Toronto Raptors is Jose Calderon who is averaging some good points about 12,3 if i remember good and also their assist leader ... so on the other side DJ Augustin will found a lot of space for himself ... and also Peja Stojakovic and Reggie Evans best rebounder of the team are out , so Raptors will have some depth problems ... I think this is good chance for captains of the Charlotte Jackson and Wallace to step up and take a win against struggling Raptors ... Charlotte Money line at 1,65 is good option also -4,5 is very relative to happen... GL

Peja had zero importance for Raptors so far and Raptors have been playing without Evans for some while - to be precise: last time he played was on Nov 26.

Bayless (Calderon replacement) played really well so far. so Jose's absence won't affect Raptors that much...

All I'm saying that Bobcats is still a good pick, I just wanted to show that those two (Peja and Reggie) are not important at all - Raptors get used to play without Evans....

mi duLce Locura · 14-12-10, 16:31

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Originally Posted by MilosS

Peja had zero importance for Raptors so far and Raptors have been playing without Evans for some while - to be precise: last time he played was on Nov 26.

Bayless (Calderon replacement) played really well so far. so Jose's absence won't affect Raptors that much...

All I'm saying that Bobcats is still a good pick, I just wanted to show that those two (Peja and Reggie) are not important at all - Raptors get used to play without Evans....

yeah i sure know that ... but its always important to mention that ... and Evans was really good defensive player for Toronto and his missing all the time till now is affecting a bit ... so he was important , they maybe used to play without him but HOW ? that's the point m8

... and Jose's absence will really affect that much , don't tell it won't ... how are u thinking that Bayless will handle all the game pressure ... Jose's missing is something really that they cannot afford now ... 1/3 of toronto's assist came from that guy ... and also he was some solid offensive power ...

danutzfcb · 14-12-10, 18:07

Good news for Lakers. Bynum is expected to play against Wizards. So tonight i expect Lakers to play differently because Bynum was a huge absence and Lakers suffered very much without him. Sorry for my English.

Zebra$ · 14-12-10, 19:25

Some news about Denver v Orlando.
Billups is doubtful, meaning he most likely won't play.
Richardson won't play for Orlando, Duhon and Pietrus are returning to action.
All according to Josh Robbins who always had first-hand info:
http://twitter.com/JoshuaBRobbins

MilosS · 14-12-10, 19:49

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Originally Posted by Zebra$

Some news about Denver v Orlando.
Billups is doubtful, meaning he most likely won't play.
Richardson won't play for Orlando, Duhon and Pietrus are returning to action.
All according to Josh Robbins who always had first-hand info:
http://twitter.com/JoshuaBRobbins

Great news for the Magic. Q-Rich was useless recently, he couldn't hit ***** so Bass alredy took his place and proved his value. Bass and Howard are one of the best center lines in league. Just to mention that Orlando is the best ''in the paint'' team in NBA by all stats

KFY96 · 14-12-10, 20:27

This time I also have to disagree. GSW is not even similar to last season. And also I expect a long guys fight here as Curry still listed day to day.
But sure about the game will be spectacular. I'll lean on player bet for K.Love maybe.

Atlanta and Charlotte agreed and my only concern is Philadelphia atm , I'm really dazed. Odds are very tempting however Nets coming back home and Philadelphia going away first games after series.

Zebra$ · 14-12-10, 21:01

Billups' status is upgraded to "out for about a week"

necro · 14-12-10, 21:22

Everything points to Philadelphia with aprox. 80% of public on them.

H2H Philadelphia won 4 straight game and they covered last 8 games in row(!)

Ok, Nets are Nets but in the end they are not so much better or worse than Philadelphia. They lost their last home game against laker by just few points because of Kobe factor.

Philadelphia is poor poor road team and line is same(PHI -1.5) as it was 27.11. when Philadelphia won at home.

Something is quite fishy here and i will put 4/10 on Nets.

Vernor Vinge · 14-12-10, 21:31

Great job MilosS, big work done

So... at the end of the day.... Orlando ML, GSW Minnesota over 217 and Atlanta -5 should be good picks ? At least it feel so

mi duLce Locura · 14-12-10, 21:31

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Originally Posted by necro

Everything points to Philadelphia with aprox. 80% of public on them.

H2H Philadelphia won 4 straight game and they covered last 8 games in row(!)

Ok, Nets are Nets but in the end they are not so much better or worse than Philadelphia. They lost their last home game against laker by just few points because of Kobe factor.

Philadelphia is poor poor road team and line is same(PHI -1.5) as it was 27.11. when Philadelphia won at home.

Something is quite fishy here and i will put 4/10 on Nets.

i will also give my credit to Nets , i somehow believe in them as they are really not bad team at all ... it have to be more courage in this team if they want to make a good results , maybe starting from tonight ... 76ers are not though team to beat and it's really good opportunity for nets to say , hey we aren't bad as our record shows ...

maybe i kinda like this team but they are really talented team ...

Satyr · 14-12-10, 21:43

Denver Nuggets - Orlando Magic

Taking the points here. Although it is very likely Chauncey Billups will be out of this clash I have to say I don't think Orlando warrants this line on the road at this point. Denver is a very solid home team, they're 10-1 at home after all and the fact they're down a player may or may not be of significance in the end. Sure, Chauncey is a legitimate play, one of league's finest and a very hard worker, but this Denver team can ball, especially at home. This will be a very tough inside battle, and Orlando laying 2,5 just does not add up no matter how I put it. I'm well aware this won't be a popular play today considering Billups' status and the fact Denver has dropped 3 out of their last 4 (all on the road though) but I think they have enough depth and talent to compensate for the absence of their man. Orlando is not going to get easy perimeter shots like they did against the Clippers, and it's not like the Magic have been impressive lately either, especially having issues finishing games on the road. Five units, taking the points.

Denver Nuggets (+2.5) @ 1.87 (Pinnacle)

FiDu · 14-12-10, 21:44

Ok, here're my thoughts.
Lakers should win it and it will not even be close, however I am scared to take -10.5. Bynum's debut against Wizards 2nd unit (Wall and Blatche likely out)... Looks just too obvious. A week ago Lakers easily won, when Wall played and actually played well (22/14/5). Today Wizards will start with Arenas - Hinrich - Thronton - Yi - McGee. Possibly worst staring lineup in league, next to Kings.
My bets for this game:
Hinrich over 16 pts+rebs+ass - ladbrokes - with wall sitting out, Hinrich is averaging 30+ minutes. With overish game expected, this sounds just too easy (11 pts, 2 rebs, 5 assists or so).
Yi over 11 pts+rebs+ass - ladbrokes - same reasoning as above. Yi should start in Blatche's place and with him starting, Yi averages are totalling 11.5 PRA, since Blatche is out, extended minutes for Yi expected and line should be higher.

Houston -9 is a bit tricky. Last year Kings were actually playing better without Evans as a ballhandler. But as NBA commercial says - last season... was last season. I rate Kings as worst team in league, while Rockets' bad record is influenced heavily by their toght schedule and pisspoor start. Rockets already faced LAL (2x), SAS, Chi (2x), OKC (2x) and Dal. All are powerhouses. Meanwhile against teams of Kings level, Rockets are crusing at home (+26 MInn, +14 Det, +15 Cavs). Worth small bet.

GSW -2.5 is betable in my book. I will always bet when I get -2.5 against 1-12 road team. No matter if Curry is out. Minnesota simply isnt that good. Also big bet on Dorrell Wright over 15.5 points here. He will be matched up against Beasley (hence no defence) and he is on fire, scoring 30 on Wolves a fortnight ago.

You guys are brave to trust Charlotte after what they did against Boston and what Toronto did with PIstons. Those two games mean fr me - Cats are in slump, while Raptors have positive energy. No bet for me though, as I cant see Tor win two away games in the row. However, will not put my money on team who just lost by 30 points at home, no matter if it was against best team of the East (with Semih Erden as starting center!).
Here I bet on Diaw over 11.5, Jax over 28.5 PRA and DJ Augustin o22 PRA. Augustin averages 22.4 in normal games, while this one has higher total than usual Cats game. Same explanation for Diaw (12 PPG) and Jax (27.1 PRA).

Last but not least Nene under 14.5 and MAgic -2.5. Nene has 10.7 PPG against D12. With Bass under the rim, Nuggets will struggle mighty to get any rebound and I cant see them winning this one.

Akira · 14-12-10, 22:40

FiDu they say that Walls status is questionable for Wizards...so no guarantee he will sit out? Coach said that he is struggling with knee sorness but his status as I said is not yet sure. So in reality the bet on Hinrich is like 50/50 at the moment.

FiDu · 14-12-10, 22:59

Wall has already been ruled out for Tuesday night's game, which will be the eighth missed game of his young career. Although the rookie has been playing through it, Saunders said the knee tendinitis has been a problem since summer league. "I don't think, with his situation, that he's ever going to be pain free from that," Saunders said. The Wizards will continue to be cautious with Wall and monitor his pain levels, but these knee and foot issues look like they could linger for the foreseeable future. It's definitely not an ideal situation for Washington or for Wall owners.

Besides, ladbrokes has rule that player has to _START_ the game in order for bet to count.

Zebra$ · 14-12-10, 23:24

Fidu, can you combine players from the same game at Ladbrokes?

FiDu · 14-12-10, 23:38

nah, obviously you cant, as they are related bets. Its hard to find bookies, who offer player specials (bwin, thegreek), even harder bookies who allow to combine player specials (ladbrokes, nordicbet), but impossible to find someone who allows you to combine specials from same game.

Zebra$ · 14-12-10, 23:44

Yeah, thought so but it's best to ask. Locals allow it

Btw you can combine them at Betsson too, they often have interesting specials.
As for Euroleague, Fonbet is another bookie that allows combining players from different games.
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But I can't see the option to combine them at Ladbrokes, only offers 2 singles and I'd like to place a double on Jackson and Arenas

FiDu · 14-12-10, 23:53

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Originally Posted by Zebra$

Yeah, thought so but it's best to ask. Locals allow it

Btw you can combine them at Betsson too, they often have interesting specials.
As for Euroleague, Fonbet is another bookie that allows combining players from different games.

8E win limit in betsson on 4 accounts (dont even bother to open new one, as they will simply add limit whenever you bet high on any player special), 20E bet limit in fonbet on two accounts. Ladbrokes recently reduced my account to 40E max win, but I managed to bet there for over a year without limits, so now ill open new one soon.
Last year sportingbet had player specials too, but I guess they fired their odds compiler as they were looking for a new one this summer. Also unibet has some specials (mostly on european players, who play in nba) and expekt offers them once a week.
During playoffs, BAH and even SBO have some specials. Betsafe have player specials as well every now and then, but also have 3 limited accounts there (11E max win) and even on fresh account you cant bet more than 40E, so it's kinda pointless.

Indeed, they dont offer it anymore. hey used to offer it for world championship (http://yfrog.com/f/47ladbj/), never used it for nba, dont know if they were offering it.

FiDu · 15-12-10, 00:21

And Yi just got injured... marvelous

Gerald Wallace appreas to be injured too. Ok, he's fine

Zebra$ · 15-12-10, 00:29

I admire people who took Charlotte after that shameful game vs Boston.
They are doing it again, Toronto is on a 20-2 run at the moment and totally outhustled these mugs with 6-1 off rebounds.
And that imbecile Jackson managed to play only 18 minutes over 3 quarters because of 4 stupid fouls. Good timing for my bet on over 28.5

Akira · 15-12-10, 09:09

Tough luck on the Hinrich bet as he only managed to shoot 3/10 2pointers, 0/3 3pointers and just 1/2 free throws, add 5 rebounds and 4assists and we got exactly 16

Shame because it only needed this little 1 point

it seems generally from his stats that he struggles against LA even playing for a long time on the field.
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duhlev · 15-12-10, 09:55

I would say poor Atlanta...they were trashed by Detroit.....took a nice combo with Houston and Charlotte, but.......bad luck

cheers