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08-12-10, 07:27
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NBA 08.12.2010.
01:00 Boston Celtics (-6) - Denver Nuggets (offline), o/u 201
01:00 Cleveland Cavaliers - Chicago Bulls (-6.5), ML 1.38, o/u 196.5
01:30 New York Knicks (-6.5) - Toronto Raptors, ML 1.35, o/u 220.5
02:00 Milwaukee Bucks (-2) - Indiana Pacers, ML 1.78, o/u 188
02:00 Minnesota T'wolves - Oklahoma City Thunder (-5), ML 1.47, o/u 217
02:00 New Orleans Hornets (-9) - Detroit Pistons, ML 1.21, o/u 185
02:30 San Antonio Spurs (-11) - Golden State Warriors, ML 1.13, under 215
03:00 Phoenix Suns (-4.5) - Memphis Grizzlies, ML 1.58, o/u 218
03:00 Utah Jazz (-1.5) - Miami Heat, ML 1.87, o/u 188
04:00 Sacramento Kings (-4) - Washington Wizards, ML 1.58, o/u 200.5
04:30 Los Angeles Clippers - Los Angeles Lakers (-8), o/u 206
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08-12-10, 07:36
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Injuries, previews and other updates will be published during the day.
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08-12-10, 15:55
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Injured and questionable players -
Boston Celtics - The Celtics were missing the following players at Tuesday's practice: *Rajon Rondo (hamstring and foot pain), *Nate Robinson (personal), *Delonte West (broken wrist), *Glen Davis (illness), *Jermaine O'Neal (sore knee), *Shaquille O'Neal (sore calf) and Kendrick Perkins (knee rehabilitation). Nate Robinson missed Tuesday's practice due to a death in the family. However he'll take the place of injured Rondo as a starting PG.
Milwaukee Bucks - *Drew Gooden (foot) will not play on Monday, and rookie Larry Sanders will get another start in his place against the Heat. *Carlos Delfino (concussion symptoms) admitted that he is still experiencing headaches. There is still no timetable on Delfino and we're not expecting him back anytime soon.
Indiana Pacers - *Darren Collison was able to "walk off" the ankle/leg injury he suffered late in Monday's win over the Raptors, according to Indycornrows.com. There was no mention of Collison's tweak in the Associated Press game recap or the Indy Star's coverage. So for now, we'd tentatively expect him to be fine for Wednesday's game in Milwaukee.
Minnesota Timberwolves - *Darko Milicic is day-to-day with a quad contusion after an update to his status Tuesday night. We know exactly nothing more than we knew before, but the news could be worse. *Anthony Tolliver's MRI revealed a sprained right MCL, and he is expected to miss 6-8 weeks. Minnesota's versatile forward had been holding down a regular 15-20 minute role off the bench, playing time that will be dispersed among other marginal backups.
Detroit Pistons - *Charlie Villanueva, who will miss Tuesday's game for personal reasons, is expected back for Wednesday's game at New Orleans.
San Antonio - *Manu Ginobili had a sore neck after Sunday's game, thanks to a collision with Emeka Okafor, but he said that he will be fine.
Sacramento Kings - *Tyreke Evans saw a foot specialist in L.A. at the behest of his agent on Tuesday, and following the visit it was decided that he would continue to play through the plantar fasciitis that he is suffering from. That means he is go for Wednesday's game against the Wizards, and nothing was truly learned from this meeting that we didn't know before.
Los Angeles Clippers - *Baron Davis (hamstring) will be a game-time decision for Wednesday's game against the Lakers, based on how he feels after the team's shootaround. It's just a guess, but he should be ready. *The MRI taken on Chris Kaman's injured left ankle showed a bone bruise, and he will not play in Wednesday's game and possibly more.
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08-12-10, 16:24
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I'm a bit tired so sorry because I can't provide deep previews of every single game, I'll just write down some of my thoughts -
Boston vs Denver - Definitely the biggest skip of the night. Boston is has a lot of depth problems right now but they have a long bench and quality guys to step up. On the other hand the Nuggets are very unpredictable on road and they are coming from a last night loss to Bobcats. Boston even with those sidelined players should take care of the game tonight, they'll win but it's questionable can they cover.
Cleveland vs Chicago - Everything except an easy away win would be a huge upset tbh. Cavs just continue to struggle while Bulls are slowly finding its rhythm and most importantly C.Boozer is back to his old "flashy" days. Bulls simply have much more talent on every single position. Chicago ML is a banker + under looks like a good choice if you're thinking about o/u here; Under is 4-1 in the last 5 meetings in Cleveland + Under is 11-3 in Bulls last 14 overall.
New York vs Toronto - "Who will score more" contest. Both teams are finding ways to score a huge number of points but are constantly suffering with erratic and awful defense. On the other side the Knicks are really enjoying this season so far, they have won last 10 of 11 games and Amara Stoudemire continues to impress with his leadership and scoring. Three days ago the Knicks hammered Craptors in their house 99-116 and there are a lot of reasons to believe they will do it again. Craptors are awful on road winning only 2 of 8 games plus they are coming of from a tough beat-down in Indiana where Pacers knocked them down 124-100. NY will continue their flashy run and will cover the spread.
Minnesota vs Oklahoma - I fancy "over" big time here. It's tough to decide which teams plays worse defense, but I know that both teams have weapons to score big number of points; especially OKC led by Durant and Westbrook. Minnesota always put up a good fight at home but they lack consistency and so far they lost like 5-6 games due to stupid turnovers and retarded decisions in the final minutes. This should be a typical run & gun game with both teams trying to outscore each other not playing defense at all.
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08-12-10, 16:31
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Martell Webster should be back for minny tonight.
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08-12-10, 16:46
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New Orleans vs Detroit - This one looks like a big fat under. I really don't need to explain those stats -
Under is 5-0 in Pistons last 5 games playing on 0 days rest.
Under is 6-0 in Pistons last 6 road games vs. a team with a winning home record.
Under is 4-0 in Pistons last 4 Wednesday games.
Under is 8-0 in Pistons last 8 games as a road underdog of 5.0-10.5.
Under is 6-0 in Pistons last 6 vs. Western Conference.
Under is 5-0 in Pistons last 5 road games vs. a team with a home winning % of greater than .600.
Under is 8-0 in Pistons last 8 games as an underdog of 5.0-10.5.
Under is 10-1 in Pistons last 11 road games.
Under is 10-1 in Pistons last 11 games as a road underdog.
Under is 6-1 in Pistons last 7 games vs. a team with a winning % above .600.
Under is 8-2 in Pistons last 10 games as an underdog.
Under is 4-0 in Hornets last 4 overall.
Under is 5-0 in Hornets last 5 games following a S.U. loss.
Under is 7-0 in Hornets last 7 games following a ATS loss.
Under is 5-0 in Hornets last 5 after allowing 100 points or more in their previous game.
Under is 10-1 in Hornets last 11 games vs. a team with a winning % below .400.
Under is 4-1 in Hornets last 5 home games vs. a team with a road winning % of less than .400.
Under is 4-1 in Hornets last 5 Wednesday games.
Under is 4-1 in Hornets last 5 games as a favorite.
Under is 4-0 in the last 4 meetings in New Orleans.
Hornets just love to develop their attack steadily plus they play one of the toughest defenses in NBA while Pistons have worst shooting percentage than a 3rd league Albanian bball team. They look so fragile and slow offensively missing a ton of shots; Hornets will beat the hell out of them. Under is a great bet, imo.
San Antonio vs Golden State - This looks like another high scoring game to me. Spurs play fast, they're compact offensively, they transit the ball very well so logically they score a lot. And there is no need to spend words about Warriors, one of the most entraining NBA teams; they execute their offense in 10-12 second where Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry have the leading roles. They are just scoring machines.
Sacramento vs Washington - I strongly believe Wizards will win this one. They fought tremendously against NBA champions Lakers last night, they did sucked on defense a bit but offense was flawless; Wall was scoring and passing, Young was hitting three-pointers like crazy while Arenas finally showed some flashes of brilliance. The is a possibility that Kings will miss very important Tyreke Evans but even if he start I still think this is a good bet. Wizards are 0-11 away, that run must come to an end one day and tonight they have a great chance.
*Wizards are 5-0 ATS in the last 5 meetings in Sacramento.
*Wizards are 5-1 ATS in the last 6 meetings.
*Road team is 4-1 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
*Underdog is 5-0 ATS in the last 5 meetings.
Wizards to cover the spread 8/10 and Wizards ML 4/10. Best of Luck!
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08-12-10, 16:47
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Just to sum up - Chicago ML, Knicks to cover, Minnesota vs OKC over, NO vs Detroit under, San Antonio vs GS over and the last one are Wizards.
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08-12-10, 16:57
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Blatche is questionable. It is good thing for Wizards defence and permiter shooting, not that good for inside presence.
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08-12-10, 18:08
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@ MilosS:
solid work on previews my friend, appreciated! can you please add unit staking to your picks? (1/10-10/10 f.e.)
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08-12-10, 19:26
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Have to agree about GS-SAS over. I think line is biased with Spurs being underish team for a long time. Don't play u/o's anymore though.
Also with Boston frontcourt problems (Semih Erden may be starting center), it would be a sin not to take Nuggets ML, if they have just a little deeper under the rim. Since only Nene can score (I dont consider Al Harrington as F/C), this can be pretty even.
However, great bet in tobet/triobet/nordicbet - Kevin Garnett over 24.5 pts + rebs. Limit is 160E on fresh account, still, not bad.
Other good bet for me is Wizards to win. Ever since Kings started season 3-1 (wins over lowly Min, Cavs and Raps, lose to Nets, total point balance +1), they lost 14 of the nest 15 games, winning only with Nets and falling to Wolves, Pistons and Clippers (twice).
Tyreke Evans is nowwhere near last season form, he hit classic sophomore slump and despite pts/rebs/ass averages are almost the same, his FG has dropped by 0.6% and he is commiting more TO's. Sacramento is worst 3P shooting team in league and they have second lowest FG.
Wizards didnt win on the road yet and their rebounding is atrocious and they are playing b2b and third game in 4 nights. But they are better team. Wall is finally healthy, Arenas seems to be doing well, Young provides spark from the bench (once in a while). If Blatche is out like yesterday and he doesnt settle for his moronic 20-footers, this is 50-50 game. 2.65 is a must-take in my book.
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08-12-10, 20:36
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Jazz is so strong inside , even stronger than Heat imo , however I cant see any defence specialist to stop James and rising up Wade. I am aware of its hardness but doesnt it worth to try Heat tonight ?
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08-12-10, 21:39
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Quote:
Originally Posted by KFY96
Jazz is so strong inside , even stronger than Heat imo , however I cant see any defence specialist to stop James and rising up Wade. I am aware of its hardness but doesnt it worth to try Heat tonight ?
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Yes. It is- A bit of revenge factor (Utah beat Miami away in OT) and of course, I think Miami is somehow getting better (no jokes anymore, 1/4 of season is already behind teams)!
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08-12-10, 21:54
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From all I have read, I will follow these bets:
GS @ SA OVER
Detroit @ NO UNDER
Chicago Bulls @ Cleveland CHI ML
combo @ 4.35
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08-12-10, 22:30
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Cleveland - Chicago Share
Tomorrow, 01:05
US Sports - NBA
Discuss in forum (4 entries)
Pick: Chicago (-7.5) Result: Pending
Stake: 10/10 Odds: 1.98
Bookmaker: Pinnacle vCash: No
Posted: Today, 22:35
Well, well.. Our friends the Cavaliers again.
I'll keep betting against these suckers until they give me reason not to. Don't have to analyse again how much they suck, I've said it before in a few picks and I'm saying it now. Getting smashed by Phillies was just a formality really. And tonight it will happen again. I like the Bulls, they've had Boozer back for a few games now and has had the time to get some form scoring 29 against OKC. Together with Deng, Rose and Noah another humiliation cannot be prevented.
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08-12-10, 22:37
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New York - Toronto Share
Tomorrow, 01:35
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Pick: New York (-6.5) Result: Pending
Stake: 8/10 Odds: 1.91
Bookmaker: William Hill vCash: No
Posted: Today, 23:12
Liking this bet here. I remember writing the match-up for the game last Sunday. Stating that if Raptors can stop Stoudemire they can win the game. Well I have no idea which Raptor player is able to guard this on fire Stoude. Together with Felton they carry this Knicks team and also in that game crushing Toronto 116-99.
I also remember writing that Raptors played some great teamplay and D. Well that could have been the case in the game vs OKC but after that it was just pathetic.
Raptors started the game vs Knicks and Pacers really poor allowing 60 and 68 pts in the first half.
If Raptors show the same as they showed the last 2 games and if Stoude keeps going hot, than I have no doubt that this game will end in a double-digit win for NY.
Good betting guys.
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08-12-10, 23:19
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Shaq, Baby, Rondo and Nate are all good to play tonight.
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08-12-10, 23:28
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Melo out tonight with knee inflammation.
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09-12-10, 00:22
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How is with Blatche (Wizards) ?
If he is missing, then it's not worth to touch them..
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09-12-10, 00:26
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Quote:
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How is with Blatche (Wizards) ?
If he is missing, then it's not worth to touch them..
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they can play good without him, he is no THAT important... Trevor Booker is a nice reserve and he at least plays some defense
and lol - have you even read what FiDu wrote about Blatche?
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09-12-10, 00:28
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@ MilosS:
solid work on previews my friend, appreciated! can you please add unit staking to your picks? (1/10-10/10 f.e.)
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sorry for the late reply I was offline...
well, I go with flat stakes always but from now on I'll post 5/10 7/10 9/10 etc...
GL!
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09-12-10, 11:23
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MilosS
Just to sum up - Chicago ML, Knicks to cover, Minnesota vs OKC over, NO vs Detroit under, San Antonio vs GS over and the last one are Wizards.
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I just want to apologize to anyone who followed my bets, I'm terribly sorry.
Minnesota was retarded in 4th quarter, they scored only 17 points and focked "over". San Antonio and GS also stopped scoring in 4th and everything before that was fine. Wizards sucked, I don't have explanation for that loss.
It will be better, best of luck!
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09-12-10, 12:13
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I just want to apologize to anyone who followed my bets, I'm terribly sorry.
Minnesota was retarded in 4th quarter, they scored only 17 points and focked "over". San Antonio and GS also stopped scoring in 4th and everything before that was fine. Wizards sucked, I don't have explanation for that loss.
It will be better, best of luck!
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Don't worry, your previews are really good, even if sometimes readers can have a different conclusions
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09-12-10, 12:40
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Don't worry, your previews are really good, even if sometimes readers can have a different conclusions 
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my problem is that most of time I can predict either ML or o/u - and guess what - I always chose the wrong bet
For example look how my preview about NY started... And I chose Knicks to cover  ... Chicago was both ML and under, same thing for Hornets who covered easily and was also under...still, I was shocked to see 3 typical "over" games to finish as "under's" - Spurs, T'wolves and Suns. You can always get focked by a single quarter although everything was more than fine before that...
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09-12-10, 12:56
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MilosS
my problem is that most of time I can predict either ML or o/u - and guess what - I always chose the wrong bet
For example look how my preview about NY started... And I chose Knicks to cover  ... Chicago was both ML and under, same thing for Hornets who covered easily and was also under...still, I was shocked to see 3 typical "over" games to finish as "under's" - Spurs, T'wolves and Suns. You can always get focked by a single quarter although everything was more than fine before that...
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**** happens. I am trying to limit my options to not get a headache - not playing teams playing back to back on the road (especially when having older stars, like Nash for Phoenix), for example Wizards put a lot of effort against LAL and even if in theory I could see a value betting on them against Kings, I just skip it.
I also use my own way to bet on teams prediciting to cover a big handicap - when they are at home I prefer to bet for their handicap win at HT, when they are away I prefer to bet on them winning after 3rd quarters.
But it's so many things which has to be considered - like last night I bet on Chicago to win over 7.5, as I bet against Cleveland every time since big loss against Heat, but I didn't consider that Boozer (who's a soft player, who is coming back from injury as well) can have a weak night playing at arena where he was a most hated person, before LBJ beat him  .
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09-12-10, 12:59
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MiloSs you are doing a good job with your previews, keep up the good work!
as for under/over i would suggest to take stats a bit more seriously when taking picks, I agreed with all your o/u yest but statistically they weren`t supported except Hornets which was verified in the end. I am not saying that stats are always right but when stats don`t agree I usually skip or put low stakes.
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09-12-10, 13:16
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Originally Posted by FunkyXL
MiloSs you are doing a good job with your previews, keep up the good work!
as for under/over i would suggest to take stats a bit more seriously when taking picks, I agreed with all your o/u yest but statistically they weren`t supported except Hornets which was verified in the end. I am not saying that stats are always right but when stats don`t agree I usually skip or put low stakes.
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thanks mate
but I really consider stats a lot and sometimes stats fail, you know that
Stats are important, but more important when you're taking an o/u bet are game-styles from both teams. up-tempo or slow-tempo
after that you only need to pray they won't miss a lot of shoots.
Spurs, Warriors, T'wolves and Thunder are all up-tempo teams where they need only around 10 seconds to execute offense
about Spurs over and T'wolves over I was very confident, especially about T'wolves but bloody retards scored only 17 points in last quarter. ffs they scored 40 points in 1st but totally stopped after that. And OKC sucks at defense.
but what to do, these days lines are very tough to beat
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14-12-10, 12:58
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Quote:
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And there is no need to spend words about Warriors, one of the most entraining NBA teams; they execute their offense in 10-12 second where Monta Ellis and Stephen Curry have the leading roles. They are just scoring machines.
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Quote:
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Bookies are biased a little because Wolves had an awful game in Chicago and scored only 82 points 6/10
Be$t of luck!
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I think you are biased a little about Warriorrs.They are not the same team as you think this year .They are not executing their offence in 10-12 seconds ,they are not scoring machines anymore ; last year they were scoring 108.8 ppg and allowing 112.4 ppg ,this year 100.6/107 ..They have just 8 overs and 16 unders this year ..
This season first game against Minnesota ,their FG% was 50.6 and 3PT% was 66.7 and they reached just to 104 points.. If they had these percentages in any game last year, it could easily be more than 120 ..Warriors held Wolves %39 shooting percentage which is as low as you could never see in last years ..
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