FIFA U20 World Cup

pan Vejmel · 24-09-09, 15:33

vercingetorixxx · 24-09-09, 15:47

Egypt is the host.

In the arab world, they are considered amongst the favorites to lift the trophy. Now, I don't know if this is a realistic goal or is just the hype before the tournament.

allthethings · 24-09-09, 16:11

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Originally Posted by vercingetorixxx

Egypt is the host.

In the arab world, they are considered amongst the favorites to lift the trophy. Now, I don't know if this is a realistic goal or is just the hype before the tournament.

I think it's hype, though I say that without knowing much of anything about the team. I know they get to play in it because they're the hosts, and the coach has a chip on his shoulder about people thinking they would have had a hard time qualifying without the automatic berth. In June they managed a draw and two losses against Argentina, Netherlands and UAB.

I will say this in general: In this competition, most people bet based on their opinions of the countries' national teams, which is sheer folly imo. Except for Tahiti (playing Spain tomorrow), I may just fade the public on every game. Even Spain, one of the favorites, looked dodgy in qualifying.

Hosts typically do well in international events, but I've already taken Trinidad and the under.

vercingetorixxx · 24-09-09, 16:18

You might have a point here.
I took Egypt today, but without to much researching, and mostly based on T & T football level. Also, I was considering the home factor.

allthethings · 24-09-09, 16:34

The line has gone from Egypt -1 @1.6 yesterday to Egypt -1.5 @ 1.88...the under is still well paid...the TnT coach told fifa.com that his team would start slow, soak up the pressure for a while, and that his team "could surprise." Coaches say all sorts of things, but there's no doubt that in spite of the class difference between TnT and Egypt at the national level, TnT does have some very fast and strong players, which Egypt don't encounter very often. I expect a relatively careful match, no matter how it turns out.

litost · 24-09-09, 17:05

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Originally Posted by allthethings

I think it's hype, though I say that without knowing much of anything about the team. I know they get to play in it because they're the hosts, and the coach has a chip on his shoulder about people thinking they would have had a hard time qualifying without the automatic berth. In June they managed a draw and two losses against Argentina, Netherlands and UAB.

I will say this in general: In this competition, most people bet based on their opinions of the countries' national teams, which is sheer folly imo. Except for Tahiti (playing Spain tomorrow), I may just fade the public on every game. Even Spain, one of the favorites, looked dodgy in qualifying.

Hosts typically do well in international events, but I've already taken Trinidad and the under.

i was looking at odds this morning and tought exactly the same odds on paraguay , honduras , australia & venezuela apeal the most tough w/o proper research it is hard ..

T&T could as well pull out a surprise tough they probably did not play in front of more than 1K in al their life wil have to face 60k+ tonight ...but at this level often crowd play against own team -not sure egypt is the case tough - ...

luque227 · 24-09-09, 20:48

Paraguay +0,5 @1.75
+0, +0,5@1.94 bet365

Many italian clubs have denied to their young players to partecipate to this competition.
Santon, Balotelli, Paloschi, Poli, Forestieri,ecc.. there aren't. I think this 2 teams will qualificate to next stage, but i don't see a good championship for Italy.

allthethings · 24-09-09, 20:49

Twice today I took underdogs and got blown out. I actually had a pretty good day overall, but sorry if I steered anybody wrong today. I still think fading the public in this event makes a lot of sense.

vercingetorixxx · 24-09-09, 21:09

This 4-1 for Egypt could be deceiving. They enjoyed total domination in the first half, but they lost stamina in the second and allowed T&T to create chances, and also to hit the post 2 times. T&T has some skilled players but they're kinda chaotic, they don't play together as a team. Their defensive line is one big joke.

Terrific crowd support for the hosts.

adnane · 25-09-09, 08:18

What about paruguay- Italy. Does Italy have enought 'other' quality players to beat Paraguay??

Bubici · 25-09-09, 08:45

Tahiti has only one player outside of Tahiti, which is actually not that strange

Can we expect goal fest from Spain? They have great squad, some already established players on senior level; they should easily trash Tahiti..

Try over on goals, handicap is only 1,30 at my local.

Iacopo · 25-09-09, 09:11

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Originally Posted by Bubici

Tahiti has only one player outside of Tahiti, which is actually not that strange

Can we expect goal fest from Spain? They have great squad, some already established players on senior level; they should easily trash Tahiti..

Try over on goals, handicap is only 1,30 at my local.

Tahiti?

Over 2.5 goals is priced at 1.30. It should be BANKER!

Bubici · 25-09-09, 09:30

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Originally Posted by Poltergeist

Tahiti?

Over 2.5 goals is priced at 1.30. It should be BANKER!

It's 1.40 at my local, I am taking it. Who knows, maybe Tahiti also score

luque227 · 25-09-09, 11:58

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Originally Posted by adnane

What about paruguay- Italy. Does Italy have enought 'other' quality players to beat Paraguay??

Yes, but with absent players they can win or reach final.

Other quality players are:

Albertazzi: central defender.
Fiorillo: very good gk.
Mazzarani: right back.
Bruscagin: central midfielder.
Eusepi: striker

Suppoter · 25-09-09, 12:00

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Originally Posted by luque227

Paraguay +0,5 @1.75
+0, +0,5@1.94 bet365

Many italian clubs have denied to their young players to partecipate to this competition.
Santon, Balotelli, Paloschi, Poli, Forestieri,ecc.. there aren't. I think this 2 teams will qualificate to next stage, but i don't see a good championship for Italy.

Thanks, and now odds so fast drop on italy !

I think AW win in here.

What u think too mate ?

jompy · 25-09-09, 12:11

can you give starting line ups for Spain , maybe like Italy big misses ?

Iacopo · 25-09-09, 13:12

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Originally Posted by Bubici

It's 1.40 at my local, I am taking it. Who knows, maybe Tahiti also score

I hope Spain can score 3 from the 1st half! because I don't want 2-0...

adi_joer · 25-09-09, 13:18

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Originally Posted by Suppoter

Thanks, and now odds so fast drop on italy !

I think AW win in here.

What u think too mate ?

ITALY SHOULD WIN THIS, ODDS DROP SO FAST....LAST MINUTE. I DON'T KNOW WHAT WILL HAPPEN... BUT FOR ME, ITALY ALTHOUGH SO MANY GOOD PLAYERS WON'T PARTICIPATE.... BUT STILL THEY HAVE MANY GOOD PLAYERS IN THIS TOURNEY.... THEY CAN WIN THIS MATE....

Italy DNB... (0) handicap.... are a must !

luque227 · 25-09-09, 13:52

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Originally Posted by Suppoter

Thanks, and now odds so fast drop on italy !

I think AW win in here.

What u think too mate ?

I see a draw, with an under 2,5.
Italy good in defence (with Santon,Bellusci and Ariaudo can be better), but on striker position too many quality absences (Balotelli, Paloschi, Forestieri, Macheda, Marilungo).Maritato, Eusepi, Misuraca are not good like this.

But I'm italian, and I hope on italian victory. :-)

Bubici · 25-09-09, 14:01

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Originally Posted by jompy

can you give starting line ups for Spain , maybe like Italy big misses ?

Bojan Krki***263; is injured, but others are here.

Iacopo · 25-09-09, 14:23

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Originally Posted by Bubici

Bojan Krki***263; is injured, but others are here.

I can score with Tahiti!

Bubici · 25-09-09, 14:26

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Originally Posted by Poltergeist

I can score with Tahiti!

And for Timisoara!

Marosh · 25-09-09, 15:29

here it is : http://www.fifa.com/u20worldcup/team...squadlist.html
anyway over 2,5 is 1,35 and still dropping, still value in my eyes and money for free, huge stake

litost · 25-09-09, 15:51

I still do not get why people play/advice overs when a big mismatched game is on ...far beyond me surely better to play any han at better odds :/

anyways i will have a go at vinotinto youngsters surely comming from conmebol gives them a certain je ne se ....pü (pardon my french :9) furthermore togueter with under competition surprise factor plus african often disorganized even with great potential this seems not to be so one sided match , llaneros are since feb playing toguether many matche even some guys travel with senior team and play like ag Bolivia , they have some flair upfront and a good goalie .
Heat shall not be a problem for any of this teams .
Venezuela +1 2.33 6/10 / (0) 6.5 4/10

jompy · 25-09-09, 15:55

what do you think about Spain defense , i was wondering to bet on over 2,5 but took that tahiti not to socre 1.65 @ bwin

Iacopo · 25-09-09, 16:08

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Originally Posted by jompy

what do you think about Spain defense , i was wondering to bet on over 2,5 but took that tahiti not to socre 1.65 @ bwin

I preffered the over 2.5 at 1.40 and I have 1k. i think it's a banker! what the ****? Spain can score 10 if they want... Tahiti, remember at seniors that Australia won with over 15 with them!

Lederator84 · 25-09-09, 16:20

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Originally Posted by Poltergeist

I preffered the over 2.5 at 1.40 and I have 1k. i think it's a banker! what the ****? Spain can score 10 if they want... Tahiti, remember at seniors that Australia won with over 15 with them!

Spain's squad for the U20 did not convince me in the qualification for the WorldCup.
But that was only my personal impression of them...maybe they didn't play better than they had to?
Tahiti will try everything to score today coz for them it's a once in a liftetime chance to participate there and play against Spain etc., isn't it? Furthermore defending all the time does not make much sense for this team.
So only a miracle can prevent this match from an Over 2,5 ...

litost · 25-09-09, 16:22

asenjo , dominguez , azpiculeta , botia , jose angel all of them have primera experienze and soem like asenjo or boitia great future ahead it is probably the line with most experience from teh squad but this is not the point robably a segunda B squad will be able to keep a clean shet ag Thaiti so it all depends on how focus and how bad really polinesian warriors are leaving behind kiwis does not make them world beaters but yes now that u point that one imo is value ... tough there is an unpredictable factor as we do not know much about Thaiti while heat could favour them ..

NG 1.6 4/10 & over(ht) 1 1/2 1.75 3/10

Iacopo · 25-09-09, 16:30

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Originally Posted by Lederator84

Spain's squad for the U20 did not convince me in the qualification for the WorldCup.
But that was only my personal impression of them...maybe they didn't play better than they had to?
Tahiti will try everything to score today coz for them it's a once in a liftetime chance to participate there and play against Spain etc., isn't it? Furthermore defending all the time does not make much sense for this team.
So only a miracle can prevent this match from an Over 2,5 ...

yes, only a miracle! remember Tahiti is not even as good as New Zealand, the Kiwis...

i don't know how the **** Spain is not 1.02 or 1.03 here! maybe just because they are youngsters, but even with that, the level between two teams should be huge... Nsue likes to waste a lot of balls, but tonight he will be a golgeter!

Suppoter · 25-09-09, 16:55

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Originally Posted by luque227

I see a draw, with an under 2,5.
Italy good in defence (with Santon,Bellusci and Ariaudo can be better), but on striker position too many quality absences (Balotelli, Paloschi, Forestieri, Macheda, Marilungo).Maritato, Eusepi, Misuraca are not good like this.

But I'm italian, and I hope on italian victory. :-)

FT 0-0 .

Gd Luck Mate !