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21-07-09, 20:02
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Bohemian v Salzburg 22/07/2009
Bohemians v FC Salzburg 4.50 3.60 1.66
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21-07-09, 21:02
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Bohemian's 1-1 draw in Salzburg has given them a realistic chance to reach the Champions League third qualifying round but they may struggle to repeat their first-leg heroics in Dublin.
The Irish champions deserve great credit for their performance at the Red Bull Arena where they came back from a goal down at half-time.
However,the result should not obscure the fact that Salzburg missed more than enough chances to have put the tie out of sight.
The Austrians may have been a little complacent before last Wednesday's clash but they will almost certainly have learned their lesson and are likely to produce a much more professional display.
There is a huge gulf in class between the sides and this is not entirely reflected in the generally available 8-11 about Salzburg winning the return match.
Since Red Bull assumed ownership of Salzburg four years ago,the club have appeared twice in the Champions League and,on both occasions,they went out of the competition at the third qualifying round.
Overcoming the challenge of Bohemian would be regarded as Salzburg's minimum requirement this season and they are unlikely to fall short.
recommended bet:stake 15 points on Salzburg
keystat:Salzburg have scored two goals or more in ten of their last 14 competitive away games
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21-07-09, 21:02
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Salzburg is clearly better than these Bohemians semi-pro, but don't know... the Irish are playing an athletic football, they are home, plus the main problem of Red Bull is this new coach! The last coach was very good, but this coach changed the things in a bad way...
I will probably bet 2, but in a combo and not big stakes!
@ dooks
i dont agre with some of your remarks, you are too subjective, Salzburg isnt the same team in form like the last season! this coach is bad so you probably should not bet so much, only to include it in combos!
Last edited by FC Timisoara; 21-07-09 at 21:08.
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21-07-09, 21:07
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Big value on home team imo. Will Zickler play in guests team ? Odds on home to win and advance represents really big value. I don't think Salzburg are as strong as the odds suggest. Also bear in mind Bohemians are in in full league competitions, Salzburg doesn't.
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21-07-09, 21:12
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I dont know what to do, maybe in the end I will avoid it if I will not take Salzburg's win... Red Bull is strange this season because of this coach, same situation as Dinamo Bucharest's coach, Bonnetti, who transformed the Romanian team in a defensively one and they players are performing bad...
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21-07-09, 21:33
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Salzburg played very strong against Austria Wien last sunday, who played also very defensive. the line-up was better than against Bohemians and i guess, they learned a lot from these two matches.
highlights:
http://www.laola1.tv/index.php?view=13745
Stevens said, that turining this match gave the team a mental boost.
Last edited by ThePS; 21-07-09 at 21:43.
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21-07-09, 22:48
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePS
Salzburg played very strong against Austria Wien last sunday, who played also very defensive. the line-up was better than against Bohemians and i guess, they learned a lot from these two matches.
highlights:
http://www.laola1.tv/index.php?view=13745
Stevens said, that turining this match gave the team a mental boost. |
Yes, but in the previous years they won easily with Austria Wien, now 2-1 in the 90th minute! I am still not convince if to bet them or not... Kalmar looks the safest, after that Aktobe and I want one more, Wisla or Salzburg...
Last edited by FC Timisoara; 22-07-09 at 13:55.
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21-07-09, 22:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by FC Timisoara
Yes, but in the previous years they won easily with Austria Wien, now 2-1 in the 90th minute! I am still not convince if to bet them or not... Kalmar looks the safest, after that Tobol and I want one more, Wisla or Salzburg...
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well, Austria Wien had one chance and they scored. I saw the matches and last year Salzburg didn't play better against Austria but scored 9 goals.
Salzburg created a lot of chances but missed them, they are at the moment a little bit unlucky, Janko hit against Austria and Bohemians three times the post pp.
but the victory was well deserved, they played far better than against Bohemians because Stevens changed some players (Ilic, Augustinussen, Ulmer and Jezek in).
i think, Salzburg will the game, but won't be on it.
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22-07-09, 05:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by ThePS
Salzburg played very strong against Austria Wien last sunday, who played also very defensive. the line-up was better than against Bohemians and i guess, they learned a lot from these two matches.
highlights:
http://www.laola1.tv/index.php?view=13745
Stevens said, that turining this match gave the team a mental boost. |
but today line-up should be similiar to that from first leg because Salzburg have only been allowed to register 21 rather than 25 players for European competition because they do not have the desired amount of home-grown talent as set out in Uefa regulations.
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22-07-09, 05:48
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Salzburg's players available for incoming game: Gustafsson, Arzberger; Schwegler, Schiemer, Sekagya, Dudic, Opdam, Ulmer, Augustinussen, Leitgeb, Vladavic, Traoui, Tchoyi, Cziommer, Aufhauser, Ilic, Jezek, Svento, Janko, Nelisse
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22-07-09, 08:25
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Quote:
Originally Posted by danieljackson
but today line-up should be similiar to that from first leg because Salzburg have only been allowed to register 21 rather than 25 players for European competition because they do not have the desired amount of home-grown talent as set out in Uefa regulations.
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from the starting-11 against Austria only defender Sekagya will be missing (injured). Zickler is not in the squad. because he wasn't fit before the first leg.
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22-07-09, 08:46
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Zickler? I am not interested on it, I see Janko and Nelisse and also Svento, good 1st eleven...
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22-07-09, 13:17
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Originally Posted by FC Timisoara
Yes, but in the previous years they won easily with Austria Wien, now 2-1 in the 90th minute! I am still not convince if to bet them or not... Kalmar looks the safest, after that Tobol and I want one more, Wisla or Salzburg...
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Do you really think Tobol will beat Galatasaray? Don't be crazy!
In this match it is a very diffuclut for Salzburg I think. Bohemian got the samll advantege and will be on their home ground. To betting away team like these kind of match is always more risky. However, Salzburg is favourite and if you want to bet don't bet so much.
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22-07-09, 13:24
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This game is absolutely clear away win for Salzburg. Huge huge class difference between both teams. Imho the first game in Austria was fixed, otherwise I can't explain myself how is possible for a team like Salzburg to end in a draw against such poor enemy as Bohs.
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22-07-09, 13:55
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Quote:
Originally Posted by MoneyTalks58
Do you really think Tobol will beat Galatasaray? Don't be crazy!
In this match it is a very diffuclut for Salzburg I think. Bohemian got the samll advantege and will be on their home ground. To betting away team like these kind of match is always more risky. However, Salzburg is favourite and if you want to bet don't bet so much.
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Sorry, AKTOBE!  )
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Originally Posted by bvlgari
This game is absolutely clear away win for Salzburg. Huge huge class difference between both teams. Imho the first game in Austria was fixed, otherwise I can't explain myself how is possible for a team like Salzburg to end in a draw against such poor enemy as Bohs.
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Clear win? Watch Bohemians results home, if they score a goal from a corner for example, Salzburg will have big problems! Anyway, they are still in big danger to be eliminated, they had 3 posts in 1st leg, but herethe things will be different... Home factor very important!
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22-07-09, 13:55
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All I can say is that if Salzburg will play like they did against Wienna last game, they will score half of the dosen. I have never seen such offensive pressure in my life, I don't know real stats of the posession and shots on goal but they were 2 levels above their opponent, they've hit a post, had some amazing misses, penalty not given to them and there was just INCREDIBLE pressure from their side for about 70 min.
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22-07-09, 13:59
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Originally Posted by le_celtics123
All I can say is that if Salzburg will play like they did against Wienna last game, they will score half of the dosen. I have never seen such offensive pressure in my life, I don't know real stats of the posession and shots on goal but they were 2 levels above their opponent, they've hit a post, had some amazing misses, penalty not given to them and there was just INCREDIBLE pressure from their side for about 70 min.
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Man, the Austrian championship is poor, make the difference! Austria Karnten who is 6th there lost 0-7 with my Timisoara and 0-5 with Frankfurt... Salzburg is a pretty good team, dont get me wrong, a kind of Basel, Rapid Wien is decent too, but the rest of the teams are amateurs... Last years, Red Bull won 4-1 or 5-1 with this Austria Wien!
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22-07-09, 14:07
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Originally Posted by FC Timisoara
Man, the Austrian championship is poor, make the difference! Austria Karnten who is 6th there lost 0-7 with my Timisoara and 0-5 with Frankfurt... Salzburg is a pretty good team, dont get me wrong, a kind of Basel, Rapid Wien is decent too, but the rest of the teams are amateurs... Last years, Red Bull won 4-1 or 5-1 with this Austria Wien!
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Ireland Premier is much poorer than Austrian
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22-07-09, 16:21
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For me therīs no doubt about who will win in this match.RBS spent 4.300.000***8364; for transfers this season,and they signed really good players like Cziommer,Vladavic,Svento and others.They arenīt signed this player only to play in Austrian Bundesliga,they want CL or EL.In first game they was better team but they missed penalty,and didnīt scored in a few chances.After they missed penalty,Ndo scores for 1:1,and that is all what I saw from Bohemians.Now they have a big chance,but for me Salzburg is winner in this match!
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22-07-09, 16:32
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Hey people, it doesnīt matter Salzburg will win or not. I mean for 1,6 it is a joke.
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22-07-09, 16:37
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Originally Posted by Krtecek70
Hey people, it doesnīt matter Salzburg will win or not. I mean for 1,6 it is a joke.
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OK Kant, imagine you own a bookie store. You have a professional team that spent a lot of money for new players, and desperately wants to go to CL group stage, and on the other side you have home semi-professionals... What odds will you put on a away win, and not to be joke, considering that Austrians NEED to win?
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22-07-09, 16:44
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Musandra
OK Kant, imagine you own a bookie store. You have a professional team that spent a lot of money for new players, and desperately wants to go to CL group stage, and on the other side you have home semi-professionals... What odds will you put on a away win, and not to be joke, considering that Austrians NEED to win?
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It is a joke. Like odds in the first game. The facts are known. I think,that the problems for such teams like Salzburg is the difference in the quality to other teams in the league. They do their job, but the most time, they donīt need to fight.
And they donīt need to win.
And donīt take it personally, but you donīt know basic things. Kant?!
Last edited by Krtecek70; 22-07-09 at 16:46.
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22-07-09, 16:49
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Originally Posted by IVANARO
how old are you? please...
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Exsactly that is quite a dumb statement , i watched almost all the game & even if it is true Salzburg should/could have won it the ******* never were out of the game & host only had some spells when they cornered Irish .
But at the last grasp even visitors were able to outplay Austrians taking it to their half .
Bohemians have some players with lots of craftmanship even if they sure did not look like able to hold for 90 mins like the lone forward .
A very tactical match from them expected probably similare aproach only trying to take most of set pieces & counters .
Sure quality is on guest side but experienze & home advantage lies on host .
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22-07-09, 16:52
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Originally Posted by Krtecek70
It is a joke. Like odds in the first game. The facts are known. I think,that the problems for such teams like Salzburg is the difference in the quality to other teams in the league. They do their job, but the most time, they donīt need to fight.
And they donīt need to win.
And donīt take it personally, but you donīt know basic things. Kant?!
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You don't know who Kant is? Doesn't matter... Of course they don't need to win, but surely they wont play for high scoring draw...
And you didn't answer me, what are your fer odds for away win, and what are valuable odds to bet on?
The most useless comment on betting forums ever, and the most boring one is "this odds are joke"...
Last edited by Musandra; 22-07-09 at 16:54.
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22-07-09, 17:09
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Musandra
You don't know who Kant is? Doesn't matter... Of course they don't need to win, but surely they wont play for high scoring draw...
And you didn't answer me, what are your fer odds for away win, and what are valuable odds to bet on?
The most useless comment on betting forums ever, and the most boring one is "this odds are joke"...
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1. I think RB will win
2. I would take odds from 2,0 and i hope i will get them on Betfair in livebetting.
3. I donīt have a bookiestore
4. I know only one Immanuel Kant (went to german school) and if wouldnīt know it, i hope you would have the same respect as you have.
5. Only right infos are welcome. Red Bulls need a win. No, they will not play for a highscoring draw. What next? What about 1:1 in the 70. minute. Will Red Bulls attack to win in the regular time?
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22-07-09, 17:23
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Originally Posted by Krtecek70
1. I think RB will win
2. I would take odds from 2,0 and i hope i will get them on Betfair in livebetting.
3. I donīt have a bookiestore
4. I know only one Immanuel Kant (went to german school) and if wouldnīt know it, i hope you would have the same respect as you have.
5. Only right infos are welcome. Red Bulls need a win. No, they will not play for a highscoring draw. What next? What about 1:1 in the 70. minute. Will Red Bulls attack to win in the regular time?
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2. 1.67 at the moment (average), you want >2 to bet? With that kind of odds wanting, you will never place a bet in your life... And one more thing, if you don't find value at 1.67 at the moment, by the time odds get to 2 (end of first, begging of second half if no goals of course) there is no value again, because in play odds are derived from starting odds, in the same manner handys odds are derived from Money line odds...
Who doesn't know the betting basics than?
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22-07-09, 17:34
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Austrian league is not so good, so I dont think Salzburg victory against Austria Wien matters much. Salzburg have much more money than any other team in Austria so they can win domestic games easily. On the other hand Irish league is on the rise their European Country ranking improved last few seasons from 40th in 2006 to 30th in 2009. I believe this is quite even matchup that can go either way. Bohemians showed in first leg they can play well, and today they'll have home crowd advantage. Therefore i see nice value in 1X @ 2.25
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22-07-09, 17:40
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Musandra
2. 1.67 at the moment (average), you want >2 to bet? With that kind of odds wanting, you will never place a bet in your life... And one more thing, if you don't find value at 1.67 at the moment, by the time odds get to 2 (end of first, begging of second half if no goals of course) there is no value again, because in play odds are derived from starting odds, in the same manner handys odds are derived from Money line odds...
Who doesn't know the betting basics than?
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It was just a opinion. I will never place a bet in my life. So if it happen i have to be schizophrenic. This is bad! What would Kant say.....
I wonīt discuss every point, not with you.
You should edit the sentence with the part, that Red Bulls NEED to win. Some people could be overconfident.
You have a bookiestore? ROFL
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22-07-09, 17:41
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Originally Posted by IVANARO
how old are you? please...
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Gustavo
I think under 2,5
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Simply the best
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22-07-09, 17:45
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Krtecek70
It was just a opinion. I will never place a bet in my life. So if it happen i have to be schizophrenic. This is bad! What would Kant say.....
I wonīt discuss every point, not with you.
You should edit the sentence with the part, that Red Bulls NEED to win. Some people could be overconfident.
You have a bookiestore? ROFL
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You didn't understand a single word from my last post, right?
It is OK, wait for odds>2 in play and bet...
You are future millionaire, that's for sure...
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