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12-01-09, 13:41
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Euroleague (M)-14.-15.01.2009.
Pinnacle odds:
Euroleague - Men Basketball - Wed 1/14
Game Spread Money Line Total Points More
Wed 1/14 9801 CSKA Moscow -11.5 1.926 1.154 OVER 145 1.952
10:30 AM 9802 Partizan +11.5 1.980 6.900 UNDER 145 1.952
Wed 1/14 9803 Panionios +4 1.952 2.520 OVER 146 1.952
10:30 AM 9804 Armani Jeans Milano -4 1.952 1.617 UNDER 146 1.952
Wed 1/14 9805 Real Madrid -6.5 1.952 1.400 OVER 149 1.952
10:30 AM 9806 Efes Pilsen +6.5 1.952 3.300 UNDER 149 1.952
Wed 1/14 9807 Barcelona -15 1.952 1.071 OVER 152 1.952
11:45 AM 9808 Zalgiris +15 1.952 12.000 UNDER 152 1.952
Wed 1/14 9809 Nancy +9 1.952 4.700 OVER 154 1.952
11:45 AM 9810 Montepaschi Siena -9 1.952 1.244 UNDER 154 1.952
Wed 1/14 9811 Panathinaikos -16 1.909 1.053 OVER 150 1.952
11:45 AM 9812 Prokom Trefl +16 2.000 15.000 UNDER 150 1.952
Euroleague - Men Basketball - Thu 1/15
Game Spread Money Line Total Points More
Thu 1/15 9813 Alba Berlin -12.5 1.952 1.130 OVER 149.5 1.952
11:15 AM 9814 Union Olimpija +12.5 1.952 8.000 UNDER 149.5 1.952
Thu 1/15 9815 Fenebahce Ulker -5 1.952 1.532 OVER 155 1.952
11:15 AM 9816 Lottomatica Roma +5 1.952 2.750 UNDER 155 1.952
Thu 1/15 9817 Tau Ceramica -7 1.952 1.385 OVER 166 1.926
11:15 AM 9818 DKV Joventut +7 1.952 3.400 UNDER 166 1.980
Thu 1/15 9819 Air Avellino -2.5 1.909 1.741 OVER 153 1.952
11:45 AM 9820 Cibona +2.5 2.000 2.250 UNDER 153 1.952
Thu 1/15 9821 Olympiackos -19 1.952 1.038 OVER 159 2.090
11:45 AM 9822 Le Mans +19 1.952 21.000 UNDER 159 1.840
Thu 1/15 9823 Unicaja -7.5 1.952 1.346 OVER 159 1.952
11:45 AM 9824 Maccabi Electra +7.5 1.952 3.590 UNDER 159 1.952
http://www.pinnaclesports.com/lines....ue&periods=127
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12-01-09, 13:44
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Standings: Week 9
Regular Season
Group A
Team W L Pts + Pts - Total Pts.
Unicaja 7 2 679 629 50
Olympiacos 6 3 747 670 77
Maccabi Electra 6 3 746 719 27
Cibona 5 4 685 693 -8
Air Avellino 2 7 675 739 -64
Le Mans 1 8 669 751 -82
Group B
Team W L Pts + Pts - Total Pts.
Regal FC Barcelona 8 1 723 582 141
Montepaschi Siena 7 2 732 671 61
Panathinaikos 6 3 688 654 34
Asseco Prokom 2 7 622 659 -37
Zalgiris 2 7 648 722 -74
SLUC Nancy 2 7 627 752 -125
Group C
Team W L Pts + Pts - Total Pts.
Tau Ceramica 7 2 825 725 100
Lottomatica Roma 6 3 728 696 32
Fenerbahce Ulker 5 4 689 669 20
Alba Berlin 4 5 632 681 -49
DKV Joventut 4 5 717 719 -2
Union Olimpija 1 8 658 759 -101
Group D
Team W L Pts + Pts - Total Pts.
CSKA Moscow 7 2 711 578 133
Real Madrid 5 4 660 638 22
Efes Pilsen 4 5 644 682 -38
Partizan 4 5 640 624 16
AJ Milano 4 5 647 668 -21
Panionios On Telecoms 3 6 591 703 -112
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12-01-09, 13:48
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EUROLEAGUE 2008-09 COMPETITION SYSTEM
Round-robin system. Each team plays 10 games within its group.
The best 4 teams from each group advance to the Top 16.
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12-01-09, 20:55
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What do you think about Kaunas +15 and Berlin -12.5 ?
IMO the hcap for Kaunas is a little bit high...Barcelona is already qualified for the next stage while it's a decisive game for Kaunas. And Zalgiris is improving if we look at the last games : -7 in Sienne, HW against Sopot and Nancy. I hope that Woods will be back.
Berlin should win to advance to top 16...Ljubljana is in holidays no ?  McElroy on fire (Euroleague MVP last week), I'm expecting for HW 15-20 points.
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13-01-09, 08:17
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
I hope that Woods will be back.
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Woods is probably out and won't travel
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
I'm expecting for HW 15-20 points.
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ALBA is not european powerhouse and U. Olimpija is not some mediocre german team..
even with all their problems U. Olimpija is arguably better then 90% of german league..
they have been on "vacation" for some time now but they still took Roma to OT for example..
and all pressure is on alba who needs to win it while Olimpija can take it easy and play without pressure.. but that doesn't mean they won't play to win it..
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13-01-09, 09:20
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Woods didn't travel with the team.
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13-01-09, 14:27
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Ok guys thx for the news !
Picek > I think that Berlin can win by 15 points or more because last game at home against a team which was in a must-win situation, they lost by 20. When they played in Rome, Lottomatica was already qualified. Here Berlin must win, they won by 9 against Ulker, so the margin of 12-13 could be reached on thursday. But it's true that Alba is not a great of Europe...and I don't know the news about the two squads, and the motivation of Ljubljana.
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13-01-09, 14:58
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Originally Posted by Picek
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
I hope that Woods will be back.
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Woods is probably out and won't travel
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
I'm expecting for HW 15-20 points.
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ALBA is not european powerhouse and U. Olimpija is not some mediocre german team..
even with all their problems U. Olimpija is arguably better then 90% of german league..
they have been on "vacation" for some time now but they still took Roma to OT for example..
and all pressure is on alba who needs to win it while Olimpija can take it easy and play without pressure.. but that doesn't mean they won't play to win it..
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And Joventut is better than 100% of the german teams, but still they lost both games to Alba.
In Euroleague teams have a way to rise well above their normal game. olimija haveing delt with injured players, releasing the most important player, Alba ith Jenkings back and homecourt advantage, but at -12? naa
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13-01-09, 19:40
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Panathinaikos (-18.5) - Prokom Trefl
1.90 (Sportingbet)
10/10
Montepaschi and Panathinakos are still fighting for second place in the group. In theory, the Greeks do not have opportunities (one victory less ii small 27 points less). In matches direct a small difference of points went to 0, so the number of small points. And now the fun begins. We know that the Italians may think: "We go to France and what it will be, we have a small 27 points in the stock even as the loser). Crafty Pacesas but decided to mobilize their leaving all their best players Ewing, Logan and Burke in Sopot. The above Prokom loses in Athens, the Montepaschi will have more to win in France. In tomorrow's match is therefore important root - Greeks.
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14-01-09, 09:21
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You are ir right. 3 players didn`t travell in Grecce. Bet-at-home give 22.5 ,but i found 15.5 in kladionicameridian.com.
Asseco Prokom:
- Center Pat Burke did not travel for Wednesday’s game at Panathinaikos due to an operation that will keep him out some time, the club said on its website Tuesday.
- Guard David Logan did not travel for Wednesday’s game at Panathinaikos due to a leg muscle injury, the club said on its website Tuesday.
- Guard Daniel Ewing did not travel for Wednesday’s game at Panathinaikos due to fever, the club said on its website Tuesday.
Panathinaikos:
- Head coach Zeljko Obradovic has a full squad available for the game against Asseco Prokom
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14-01-09, 09:27
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i've got pana -7 vs prokom 1 at ht. could i call this as a gift and take it with 20/10 confidence?
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14-01-09, 09:35
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Originally Posted by KUBOTA
i've got pana -7 vs prokom 1 at ht. could i call this as a gift and take it with 20/10 confidence?
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superiority of pao is sure.but with big handicaps you never know,it just depends if pao will want to have fun,or just do all they need to win,without pushing too much and risking injjuries or something.
in local i have prokom not to score more then 67.5
seems to be not bad for me,i never bet on under /over ,but with all circumstances,and knowing how hot arena is in greece,it is worth 3/10 (stake do not mean confidence in my case,i will never go with higher stake in o/u as it is usually lottery)
easy peasy! this was one pure pleasure
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14-01-09, 11:32
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In my local bookie, the spread for Pana-Prokom doesn't move and is -14, so high stakes on Pana -14. I just hope that the 3 absentees are not bluff
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14-01-09, 11:44
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
In my local bookie, the spread for Pana-Prokom doesn't move and is -14, so high stakes on Pana -14. I just hope that the 3 absentees are not bluff 
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can i give you some money to play it for me also :lol :lol
here in greece 18,5
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14-01-09, 12:23
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Originally Posted by PIPO
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
In my local bookie, the spread for Pana-Prokom doesn't move and is -14, so high stakes on Pana -14. I just hope that the 3 absentees are not bluff 
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can i give you some money to play it for me also :lol :lol
here in greece 18,5
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So if in Greece only -18,5 everyone can play +22,5 for sure. Greeks mafia :lol :lol :lol
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14-01-09, 12:33
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Originally Posted by Gaga
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Originally Posted by PIPO
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
In my local bookie, the spread for Pana-Prokom doesn't move and is -14, so high stakes on Pana -14. I just hope that the 3 absentees are not bluff 
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can i give you some money to play it for me also :lol :lol
here in greece 18,5
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So if in Greece only -18,5 everyone can play +22,5 for sure. Greeks mafia :lol :lol :lol
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now in greece 22,5 :lol :lol
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14-01-09, 12:58
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hi all!
in one of the pathetic italian bookies there is aj milano to win in the regular time at 2.4...apart from the fear of possible overtimes i think it's an excellent odd with great and i'm ready to play it full stakes..just wanted to wait and see how the handicap line is going to change (the ml odd already dropped today) and to know some more infos about panionios from the greek folks..panionios is already out of the competition while milano has to win: any news about panionios line up or motivation? are they interested in winning for their own pride and fans or do you think they wont give a **** and maybe rest some players?
thanks for all the infos
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14-01-09, 13:26
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in slovenia still pana -17
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14-01-09, 13:27
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I have Milano @1.7 and still think to play it, I would definitely put some on it @2.4!
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14-01-09, 13:53
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Originally Posted by RonaldGomez
I just hope that the 3 absentees are not bluff 
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100% Pat Burke no play and 99.9% - David Logan and Daniel Ewing
Today Prokom have only 7 players + Lapeta and Swietonski (big noob).
Prokom no have fire Logan scored 17.4 points for match. Ewing 14.4 and Burke 11.3
Today: Burrell 9.4, Dylewicz 5.3, Nesovic 4.7, Archibong 3.3, Zamojski 3.1, Hrycaniuk 1.2 and Szczotka 0.3. All this players points = 27.3
Position
1 - Nesovi***263; (1.3 assist, 1.9 TO for match)
2 - Zamojski
3 - Koko/Szczotka
4 - Dylewicz/Burrell
5 - Hrycaniuk/Lapeta
No playmaker, no center and small forward - Koko and Szczotka only good in defend.
All statistic Prokom in Euroleague - http://www.e-basket.pl/?podpoddzial=...s=1&sezon=2008
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14-01-09, 13:55
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Originally Posted by groundweapon
hi all!
in one of the pathetic italian bookies there is aj milano to win in the regular time at 2.4...apart from the fear of possible overtimes i think it's an excellent odd with great and i'm ready to play it full stakes..just wanted to wait and see how the handicap line is going to change (the ml odd already dropped today) and to know some more infos about panionios from the greek folks..panionios is already out of the competition while milano has to win: any news about panionios line up or motivation? are they interested in winning for their own pride and fans or do you think they wont give a (censored) and maybe rest some players?
thanks for all the infos 
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are u sure about that 2.4 ?? if i'm not asking too much, what's the name of this book? anyway, it's certainly a good bet at that price
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14-01-09, 13:57
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raffie, so these 3 main players stayed in sopot or travelled with the team?
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14-01-09, 14:00
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prokom game i think nowhere available in local bookmakers in poland
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I just sold some stuff and after I lost 182 euros on 1 day, then on the same day deposited 110 euros more and took the action to my bookie.
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14-01-09, 14:09
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Originally Posted by KUBOTA
raffie, so these 3 main players stayed in sopot or travelled with the team?
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Just before the decisive match for promotion to the Top16 basketball Asseco Prokom Sopot huge bad luck. Champion Poland occur in the upcoming meeting with Panathinaikos Athens weakened the lack of three players.
The Wednesday meeting will be absent: Pat Burke, David Logan and Daniel Ewing. Irishman after surgery, which prevented him training with the ball in the near future. Logan suffered a muscle injury tensioning leg and is also excluded from the game. Second American disease has a high temperature and sore throat.
In addition to Athens did not go well Kostrzewski Matthew, who is after knee surgery and is undergoing rehabilitation.
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polish mafia 
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This is polish mafia - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u4G3j9lpGDs
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14-01-09, 14:09
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so what is the best option to play  ao -19,5,prokom to score less then 65,5 or over on game 150,5???
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14-01-09, 14:13
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Originally Posted by dule-vu
so what is the best option to play  ao -19,5,prokom to score less then 65,5 or over on game 150,5???
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PAO -19,5.
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14-01-09, 14:16
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so pana-22,5 playable or not? las meeting in athens was 95-68...
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14-01-09, 14:17
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Those Prokom players didnt travel to Athens at all, so they are 100% out of tonite's game.. Those three are Prokom's best players and scorers, what else to say..
PAO coach Obradovic stated that if there is a chance to go for 2nd place they will go for it and added that they must win this game by 30 pts. and wait for Siena result. He also said that last days' trainings have gone really well, so he expects his team to perform well after a couple of not so good performances.
Expecting a blowout tonite..Personally I have taken PAO -16.5/PAO -8.5 ht (were available at betshop till morning) both 10/10. Really, I rarely take so large bets on one game (maybe 4-5 times a year at most), but I think this is one of those bets, so GL to me and everyone else who took it..
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14-01-09, 14:31
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whats the latest from Barca camp? Is Ilyasova the only one surely out or do they intend to give all the other main players also little playing time tonight?
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14-01-09, 15:08
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At Primebet there is still PAO -16,5 @ 1.85
i take it with high stakes...
btw. u can make a desposit with moneybookers at this bookie...
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