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Old 06-03-08, 14:33   #1
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08 Mar 18:00 Inter Milan v Reggina 1.30 4.75 12.00
08 Mar 20:30 Palermo v Udinese 2.20 3.00 3.60
09 Mar 15:00 Catania v Cagliari 1.95 3.10 4.33
09 Mar 15:00 Empoli v AC Milan 4.75 3.20 1.85
09 Mar 15:00 Lazio v Livorno 1.66 3.30 6.00
09 Mar 15:00 Napoli v Roma 3.70 3.00 2.15
09 Mar 15:00 Parma v Sampdoria 2.05 3.00 4.00
09 Mar 15:00 Siena v Fiorentina 3.30 2.87 2.40
09 Mar 15:00 Torino v Atalanta 2.15 3.00 3.70
09 Mar 20:30 Genoa v Juventus 3.60 3.10 2.15


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Sampdoria has only one forward Bonazzoli, (and he is not good...) and without Cassano they are a worse team. Parma needs 3 points to avoid relegation...

For me, this is an under game and a victory for home team.
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Anyone know which to take in the Palermo vs. Udinese match? I see a good value in taking Udinese as they are not that much underdogs as the odds would make it seem like.

Also, why are odds on Fiorentina, Roma and Juve so high?
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Also, why are odds on Fiorentina, Roma and Juve so high?
1. Siena-Fiorentina
-Siena are in great form and they are fighting against relegation. In the last month they've beaten Roma 3:0 and they have 2 wins in a row before this match. Fiorentina had 2 tough matches in last week, away to Juventus and at home with Everton and the bookies count Mutu's absence as another handicap for Fiorentina

2. Napoli-Roma
5 days ago Napoli did what no other team in Italy managed to do this year. They've beaten Inter. Add to this that Napoli have also beaten Juventus in Naples and they played 4:4 away to Roma and don't forget that Roma played a super tough match on Wednesday against Real and you have the reason for the high odds

3. Genoa-Juve
-Juve's awful form make these odds so high. Juve won only 1 point in last 3 matches.

I see great value in one of these 3 matches.
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2008-03-09 Genoa - Juventus

After 27 rounds I’m finally taking a bet on Juve to win

Marco Borriello is a big doubt and he probably won’t make it. For those who don’t know, Borriello is serie A top scorer and he scored 16 of Genoa’s 31 goals this season.

This is not a reason for this bet and I planned to take it even before I heard the news about Borriello.
The reason for taking this bet is of different nature. First of all, Genoa don’t really need the points. They are safe and they can’t be relegated. At the same time they have chances for UEFA Cup but their chances are very slim and if we’re being honest, they don’t posses quality to fight for the 6th or even 7th place. Juve are coming after 3 awful matches and now everyone starting from Buffon and finishing with Trezeguet says that this match is do or die and how they’ll give their all to win the 3 points. We can expect a very motivated and aggressive Juve on Sunday.

This isn’t the reason I was talking about either .

I have my theory that nothing is changed in Italian football after Calciopoli but I won’t go into details. The other teams are doing what Juve were doing, while Juve are still doing some of the things they were doing.
To make a long story short….. Juve have many players loaned to some minor Italian teams. Most of these players are loaned to Siena, Empoli and Genoa. In Empoli Juve have 4 of their players loaned, and two of them are the best and one of the best players in Empoli. In Siena Juve has 3 players loaned.
This year Juve comfortably won their matches against Empoli and Siena with these two teams not even trying to score to Juve.

Genoa are the third team. Juve has 3 loaned players in Genoa. The regular CB Domenico Criscito, the regular midfielder Paro and the attacker Sculli (team’s second topscorer). In the first match in Turin in a boring match Juve easily won 1:0 with an early goal. So, why should anything change on Sunday night ?

Anyway, for those who like facts and not theories, the injury list in Genoa should be enough. Apart from Borriello, who is still a doubt and it’s not certain that he’ll miss the match, Genoa will be missing their main goalkeeper Rubinho, one of their best defenders, Bovo (21 matches/ 0 goals this season), their central midfielder Paro (20 matches/ 0 goals), their most influential midfielder Juric (24 matches/ 0 goals) and the defender Santos (12 matches/ 0 goals). They’ll be missing 4 of their best players for sure and if Borriello is out then Genoa will be 80% weaker than normal.
Everything seems to be on Juve’s side.

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Empoli - Milan

Hmmmm, this would have been a 10/10 bet only if Empoli weren't desperate to win at least a point, if this wasn't a popular bet and if Empoli didn't have my favorite player Giovinco playing for them

They may be tired and they may be disappointed but after a long long time Milan can count on the trio Pirlo-Kaka-Pato in one serie A match. Milan can not be more motivated than they are now. They are out of CL and they are 5th in serie A. Nothing's left for them but to give 100% and to push the hardest they can in the remaining 12 matches.

I believe little Empoli will be the first victim of this angry Milan and they'll pay the bill for all the disappointments in Milan camp lately.

Pick: A, Odds: 1.92, Stake: 5, Bookmaker: Canbet




Parma - Sampdoria

Motivated Parma with a great need of the 3 points will host the injury-troubled and out of form Sampdoria, who don't really need these points.

After few great results where they drew with Milan, scored 4 to Torino in the 4:4 draw and won against Udinese, Parma were destroyed by Roma last week. But this time they will welcome back their hero from the Torino match, Gasbarroni and in front of their fans they'll give everything to win the 3 points and escape from the relegation zone.
After a long, long time Parma's coach Di Carlo can count on all his best players. All the regulars are available for this match.
Sampdoria enjoyed a great form for a while but they didn't count on Cassano's antics. First he got misteriously injured (or sick or whatever excuse he finds just so he won't have to play away from Genoa) before the match against Atalanta (the lost it 1:4) and then he took off his shirt and threw it at the referee in the match against Torino. He earned himself a 5 match ban for that.

Samp are a different team without Cassano. They had troubles on their away matches anyway (they are one of the weakest away teams in the league) and now it's only getting worse.
Apart from Cassano they'll be missing their pair of central defenders, Sala (20 matches/1 goal) and Campagnaro (20 matches/ 0 goals), their top scorer Bellucci (23 matches/9 goals)and their regular defensive midfielder Mirko Pieri 22 matches/ 0 goals). Vincenzo Montella is still out injured.

This is a huge chance for Parma. If they don't win this match then they don't deserve serie A in next year.

Pick: H, Odds: 2.20, Stake: 7, Bookmaker: Interwetten
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I see great value in one of these 3 matches.
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2008-03-09 Genoa - Juventus

After 27 rounds I’m finally taking a bet on Juve to win

Marco Borriello is a big doubt and he probably won’t make it. For those who don’t know, Borriello is serie A top scorer and he scored 16 of Genoa’s 31 goals this season.

This is not a reason for this bet and I planned to take it even before I heard the news about Borriello.
The reason for taking this bet is of different nature. First of all, Genoa don’t really need the points. They are safe and they can’t be relegated. At the same time they have chances for UEFA Cup but their chances are very slim and if we’re being honest, they don’t posses quality to fight for the 6th or even 7th place. Juve are coming after 3 awful matches and now everyone starting from Buffon and finishing with Trezeguet says that this match is do or die and how they’ll give their all to win the 3 points. We can expect a very motivated and aggressive Juve on Sunday.

This isn’t the reason I was talking about either .

I have my theory that nothing is changed in Italian football after Calciopoli but I won’t go into details. The other teams are doing what Juve were doing, while Juve are still doing some of the things they were doing.
To make a long story short….. Juve have many players loaned to some minor Italian teams. Most of these players are loaned to Siena, Empoli and Genoa. In Empoli Juve have 4 of their players loaned, and two of them are the best and one of the best players in Empoli. In Siena Juve has 3 players loaned.
This year Juve comfortably won their matches against Empoli and Siena with these two teams not even trying to score to Juve.

Genoa are the third team. Juve has 3 loaned players in Genoa. The regular CB Domenico Criscito, the regular midfielder Paro and the attacker Sculli (team’s second topscorer). In the first match in Turin in a boring match Juve easily won 1:0 with an early goal. So, why should anything change on Sunday night ?

Anyway, for those who like facts and not theories, the injury list in Genoa should be enough. Apart from Borriello, who is still a doubt and it’s not certain that he’ll miss the match, Genoa will be missing their main goalkeeper Rubinho, one of their best defenders, Bovo (21 matches/ 0 goals this season), their central midfielder Paro (20 matches/ 0 goals), their most influential midfielder Juric (24 matches/ 0 goals) and the defender Santos (12 matches/ 0 goals). They’ll be missing 4 of their best players for sure and if Borriello is out then Genoa will be 80% weaker than normal.
Everything seems to be on Juve’s side.

GL

Pick: A, Odds: 2.25, Stake: 8, Bookmaker: Stan James
I agree with you I'm on Juventus side too considering the missings of Genoa and the need of points of Juve, but if you think to conspiracy theories fot this match or for other matches against Empoli and Siena you are on the wrong way IMO (just to remind you, Empoli has been the team that sacked Juventus in Coppa Italia this year).

By the way considering the links between Juve and genoa you have forgotten to mention the most important thing: Gasperini the trainer of Genoa is a Juventus man too, he has began his career as trainer of Allievi and Primavera of Juventus
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Can anyone shed some light on the Udinese and Palermo game if they have any helpful information?
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milan didnt win long time i also think there is some value on them..
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Also, why are odds on Fiorentina, Roma and Juve so high?
Obviously because all of them face difficult tasks, although I believe all three games are covered with X2, still not worth the risk for such low odds on double chance and these matches are No Bet for me.

Can't say the same about Empoli - Milan match. First I see the draw here as the least possible result cause it doesn't suit either team. Milan are low on morale right now, have important missings of Nesta, Maldini (his replacement Jankulovski is also unavailable), Gattuso, Zeedorf. The team has been complaining about fatigue. So we have on one side a Milan team low on morale and tired, with important missings, and keep in mind that it was due to ref help during recent games vs Palermo and Lazio that they were kept in the race of a CL spot. Empoli come from a bad result against a direct opponent and they know if they lose another home match it will be fatal for them. They have a young and talented squad ( another one against Milan? ), they've won already Milan once at the San Siro this season so why not in their home ground. Plus I'm not sure if Milan "want" that CL spot anymore, maybe they will try for once to leave aside the CL distraction, rebuild the squad and aim for the top of Serie A next season, something that doesn't happen very often and I'm sure they're not happy about it. If that's the case then Empoli will have all the time in the world to "repay" them. Odds on the home side up to 5.20 offer value given Milan's problems and bad performances. Empoli HW stake 4/10.
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I was in Milan last weekend and never got to chance to post my views.

However, now I'm back.

Minov has already listed a few good bets of this weekend. Parma has been letting me down recently, scoring 4 goals when I picked Torino and not conceding anything when I needed Udinese to score against them. But I will try my luck one more time with this strange team, that doesnt live up to it's real potential. Now they face Sampdoria, who a lot of people have been praising, but facts are that their recent form is not convincing and - as mentioned - they lack half the ideal formation. Cassano, Bellucci, Montella, Campagnaro, Sala and Pieri all out, while Accardi is still not 100% fit. This means 3 reserves in the defence and a huge blow in the attack as former Parma player Bonazzoli will be only available forward for this match. Bonbazzolis strength is his height and this suits Parmas heavy, slow defence excellently. Parma has no speedy central defender, they are all tall and slow, and I can imagine coach Di Carlo opening a nice bottle of Barolo for his dinner when he realized Bonazzoli is only option for Mazzarri!

Alright, now Parma. I'm going to put a controversial statement: Parma could have taken points in Rome. Instead they lost 0-4, but people who have seen the match will agree that the amount of mortal mistakes made by various players (Bucci, Falcone, Zenoni) in occasion of 3 of Romas 4 goals were what killed Parma. I think they played good football at times, Gasbarroni and Budan are a potential golden couple of the next few weeks, and Lucarelli is slowly regaining his form. I still haven't figured out how Parma will start this match, but since it's a must winner I believe in some kind of 4-3-1-2 with Gasbarroni supporting Lucarelli and Budan up front, with a solid midfield of Parravicini, Morrone and Cigarini protecting the defence. Gasbarroni is the key to success in this match. I believe Mazzarri - I rate him very highly as a coach - will field a rather packed midfield so that Gasba can not get the free space he needs in order to create danger. A solution could be a 4-4-2 with Gasbarroni and Pisanu wide, in order to spread the potential threats to Samp defence.

Due to the many absences in Samp and due to the fact that Parma can not miss out on this one (and they usually are a decent team at Tardini stadium), I will take the hometeam with medium stake. Ah, and don't forget that the two teams are "twinned", with the supporters of Samp and Parma being friends. I dont know what influence that might have..?

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Parma - Sampdoria 1 @2,15. Stake: 5/10. Bookie: Betsafe.
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in channal 4 its says that also kaka will be out ?
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I like Lazio to win at home vs. Livorno.

Take a look at the results listed below:

Lazio - Catania 2-0
Lazio - Parma 1-0
Lazio - Reggina 1-0
Laizo - Cagliari 3-1
Lazio - Empoli 0-0

What does this tell us? That Lazio usually wins their home matches against the samller teams in Serie A, a group to which Livorno certainly belongs.

Lazio had problems in the fall due to the energy they had to spend on Champions League and the relatively small squad Delio Rossi had at his disposal. Now CL is history and Lazio did some clever signings during the January market, bringing back to Italy the likes of Rolando Bianchi and Ousmane Dabo. I think we will see Lazio un a positive trend for the rest of the season. Although last year was a clear overperformance, the squad has too much quality to remain in thew lower half of the table. I'm convinced we will see them end the season among the 8 best teams.

For tomorrow's match vs Livorno Delio Rossi will miss Zauri, Mudingayi and Mutarelli. These are important misses, but he will still be able to field a strong team and even has a couple of reasonable names on the bench (Mauri, Meghni), that he can put on if things dont work out. We should se Pandev (9 goals) in a more creative fantasista role now, with Bianchi and Rocchi (8 goals) forming a very interesting partnership up front and I think we can expect Lazio to score a couple of times.

Livorno has given a few very nice performances in the past month, but the uptrend we saw them on seemed to dissappeared when Tavano got injured. He's back now, but I think it'll take more than that to regain the confidence they had. Moreover, Lazio at Olimpico is a strong team, they've won the past 4 games and some of them far superior to Livorno (Sampdoria, Fiorentina). Livorno has no important missings now that Tavano is back, but I still see a quite visible difference in terms of depth and quality in the teams. Furthermore, I dont think Tavano will make such a huge difference in his first match after his injury.
Livorno will probably approach this match with a rather prudent attitude, covering the spaces and try to hit Lazio with rapid counter attacks. I dont see them succeed with that, though. Lazio usually puts a few balls in the net at Olimpico no matter who the opponent is, and I think the ofensice element in Livorno is not strong enough to threat the usually very well organised Lazio team.

I've been thinking about wheter to take Lazio -0,5 or -0,75 but in the end I'll just go with the straight homewin. Although Pinnacle's 1,96 for -0,75 is very tempting, Livorno is a pretty solid team defensively, so straight HW to me.

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Lazio - Livorno 1 @1,70. Stake: 7/10. Bookie: Expekt
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Can anyone shed some light on the Udinese and Palermo game if they have any helpful information?
Palermo wiil miss defender Balzaretti; key player Amauri has some phisical problems, he is not fit 100% but he should play. Cavani should play instead of Miccoli for a technical decision

Udinese wil miss his best defender Zapata for injury, and the 2 regulars wings Mesto and Dossena (very important player). Defender Lukovic is still doubtful
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palermo and udine is hard one as imo both will try firstly not to lose as it will be disaster vs main rival to uefa cup spot imo draw is very possible and under as well also h2h speeks in favour it.
agree over above especially parma and juve but parma becomes public bet.........
also i am tempted by roma win but about this tommorrow
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I agree with you I'm on Juventus side too considering the missings of Genoa and the need of points of Juve, but if you think to conspiracy theories fot this match or for other matches against Empoli and Siena you are on the wrong way IMO (just to remind you, Empoli has been the team that sacked Juventus in Coppa Italia this year).
You're wrong here Buk: Empoli didn't eliminate Juve from Coppa, Juve eliminated them.

I'll be glad to be proven wrong and Genoa to put a great fight on Sunday, so lets not call this a conspiracy theory and lets call it following a trend
Since Juve have easily beaten all the teams where they have loaned players, i'll just continue picking Juve whenever they play these teams.

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in channal 4 its says that also kaka will be out ?
Where did you read this ?
Kaka will play.
If you read this in channel4 previews then have in mind that these previews are written on Tuesday and lots of things change from Tuesday to Sunday. On Tuesday Kaka was still a doubt for Milan-Arsenal but we've seen that he's recovered and he's ready to play.
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Any thoughts on the Inter game tonight?

Inter lost for the first time this season last weekend at Napoli, but they're still very strong at home. Reggina are generally poor, with a predictably bad away record for a side second bottom so statistically everything points towards a home win. My only concerns regard to Inter having their minds on Liverpoool and the CL on Tuesday night, plus the six point cushion they have over Roma. Any ideas on what sort of team they'll be putting out tonight? Is this a game best avoided due to all the other distractions which currently face Inter?

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I think Inter will rest a lot of players for the CL clash on tuesday but even the substitute are too strong for Regina.So i will try ht/ft bet


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Inter ht x ft 1 @ 4,5 at my local bookie
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A list of tomorrow's italian matches in betfair with trade volume:

16:00 ITA1 Catania - Cagliari 2,04 3,35 4,80 90% 8% 2% 21.189€
16:00 ITA1 Empoli - Milan 5,70 3,40 1,91 17% 8% 75% 30.170€
16:00 ITA1 Lazio - Livorno 1,75 3,55 7,40 92% 4% 4% 11.536€
16:00 ITA1 Napoli - Roma 4,10 3,20 2,24 25% 21% 54% 17.949€
16:00 ITA1 Parma - Sampdoria 2,12 3,10 4,80 91% 6% 3% 90.835€
16:00 ITA1 Siena - Fiorentina 3,60 2,98 2,58 46% 26% 28% 7.251€
16:00 ITA1 Torino - Atalanta 2,26 3,20 4,20 52% 33% 15% 3.423€

It is obvious that Parma tomorrow will be a public bet. Appart from a lot Samptoria's absences, can we say that these two teams are ''friendly'' teams? I mean, are these two teams something like Napoli - Genoa, or Udinese - Atalanta? I used to avoid conspiracy theories, but since i am planning to place a bet for Parma to win, good relations between these to teams would strengthen my decision.Thx a lot in advance
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As I wrote in my post earlier, Parma and Sampdoria are indeed "twinned". I have once seen a Parma-Sampdoria match and it was a nice experience, with the fans praising eachother's teams.
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As I wrote in my post earlier, Parma and Sampdoria are indeed "twinned". I have once seen a Parma-Sampdoria match and it was a nice experience, with the fans praising eachother's teams.
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As I wrote in my post earlier, Parma and Sampdoria are indeed "twinned". I have once seen a Parma-Sampdoria match and it was a nice experience, with the fans praising eachother's teams.

so u mean this ll be draw??
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As I wrote in my post earlier, Parma and Sampdoria are indeed "twinned". I have once seen a Parma-Sampdoria match and it was a nice experience, with the fans praising eachother's teams.

so u mean this ll be draw??
From my point of view, when two friendly Italian teams face each other, the team that desperately needs points gets them, and that is Parma..Appart from that, Sampdoria faces many injuries.
So Parma to win for me and becouse i expect odds to slash tomorrow i already took this bet 2.14 at betfair. Gl to all
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As I wrote in my post earlier, Parma and Sampdoria are indeed "twinned". I have once seen a Parma-Sampdoria match and it was a nice experience, with the fans praising eachother's teams.

so u mean this ll be draw??
I'm not saying that at all. I have never analyzed the games between two twinned clubs, so I really don't know whether traditions are for a "friendly draw". It's not my impression though.
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Old 09-03-08, 04:25   #25
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Plus I'm not sure if Milan "want" that CL spot anymore
Its must be a joke..With Drogba+Thiago Neves + Matteo Ferrari plus others....You made me laugh and all old players will leave.(Cafu,Favalli,Serginho)
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I see great value in one of these 3 matches.
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2008-03-09 Genoa - Juventus

After 27 rounds I’m finally taking a bet on Juve to win

Marco Borriello is a big doubt and he probably won’t make it. For those who don’t know, Borriello is serie A top scorer and he scored 16 of Genoa’s 31 goals this season.

This is not a reason for this bet and I planned to take it even before I heard the news about Borriello.
The reason for taking this bet is of different nature. First of all, Genoa don’t really need the points. They are safe and they can’t be relegated. At the same time they have chances for UEFA Cup but their chances are very slim and if we’re being honest, they don’t posses quality to fight for the 6th or even 7th place. Juve are coming after 3 awful matches and now everyone starting from Buffon and finishing with Trezeguet says that this match is do or die and how they’ll give their all to win the 3 points. We can expect a very motivated and aggressive Juve on Sunday.

This isn’t the reason I was talking about either .

I have my theory that nothing is changed in Italian football after Calciopoli but I won’t go into details. The other teams are doing what Juve were doing, while Juve are still doing some of the things they were doing.
To make a long story short….. Juve have many players loaned to some minor Italian teams. Most of these players are loaned to Siena, Empoli and Genoa. In Empoli Juve have 4 of their players loaned, and two of them are the best and one of the best players in Empoli. In Siena Juve has 3 players loaned.
This year Juve comfortably won their matches against Empoli and Siena with these two teams not even trying to score to Juve.

Genoa are the third team. Juve has 3 loaned players in Genoa. The regular CB Domenico Criscito, the regular midfielder Paro and the attacker Sculli (team’s second topscorer). In the first match in Turin in a boring match Juve easily won 1:0 with an early goal. So, why should anything change on Sunday night ?

Anyway, for those who like facts and not theories, the injury list in Genoa should be enough. Apart from Borriello, who is still a doubt and it’s not certain that he’ll miss the match, Genoa will be missing their main goalkeeper Rubinho, one of their best defenders, Bovo (21 matches/ 0 goals this season), their central midfielder Paro (20 matches/ 0 goals), their most influential midfielder Juric (24 matches/ 0 goals) and the defender Santos (12 matches/ 0 goals). They’ll be missing 4 of their best players for sure and if Borriello is out then Genoa will be 80% weaker than normal.
Everything seems to be on Juve’s side.

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A list of tomorrow's italian matches in betfair with trade volume:

16:00 ITA1 Catania - Cagliari 2,04 3,35 4,80 90% 8% 2% 21.189€
16:00 ITA1 Empoli - Milan 5,70 3,40 1,91 17% 8% 75% 30.170€
16:00 ITA1 Lazio - Livorno 1,75 3,55 7,40 92% 4% 4% 11.536€
16:00 ITA1 Napoli - Roma 4,10 3,20 2,24 25% 21% 54% 17.949€
16:00 ITA1 Parma - Sampdoria 2,12 3,10 4,80 91% 6% 3% 90.835€
16:00 ITA1 Siena - Fiorentina 3,60 2,98 2,58 46% 26% 28% 7.251€
16:00 ITA1 Torino - Atalanta 2,26 3,20 4,20 52% 33% 15% 3.423€

It is obvious that Parma tomorrow will be a public bet. Appart from a lot Samptoria's absences, can we say that these two teams are ''friendly'' teams? I mean, are these two teams something like Napoli - Genoa, or Udinese - Atalanta? I used to avoid conspiracy theories, but since i am planning to place a bet for Parma to win, good relations between these to teams would strengthen my decision.Thx a lot in advance
well, in this case. i won't hesitate to put some money on draw.

This is Italia, man. I saw this scenario many many times, in my country too. One team has a lot of injuries, and then an info that they are friendly.

the match begins and the public bet team conceeds an early goal. I wait, i wait but they can't score. At the end, 1-1 FT. Everybody loses and public bet team tries to be happy with 1 point. Or simply the mach could end up 0-0.

My choice is draw, but surely the odds will be a bit up in the match time. Because everybody will put money on Parma. I never saw, everybody getting rich Maybe i will, i'll just try.
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Milan doesn't have anything else left , except for the league.
They must fully conecntrate on the league now.

There still is a lot of value in Milan's squad , and only the players wanting to change Ancelotti
can make Empoli take something from this game

Empoli needs the points , so they can't afford to sit back and wait for counter opportunnities.

This is the time for Milan to reborn.

Milan will have some missings for this game : Nesta , Seedorf , Gattuso,kaladze

Players called for Milan:

GOALKEEPERS: Fiori, Kalac, Offredi
DEFENDERS: Bonera, Digao, Favalli, Kaladze, Maldini, Oddo, Simic
MIDFIELDERS: Ambrosini, Brocchi, Emerson, Gourcuff, Kakà, Pirlo
ATTACKERS: Aubameyang, Gilardino, Pato, Paloschi

They still have the power to take all 3 points.

For Empoli will miss Marzoratti , Davide Moro ,Daniele Balli and Nicola Pozzi


Parma will also deserve a shot as they need the points and Sampdoria has some important
missings : defenders Sala and Campagnaro ,Montella, Bellucci, Cassano in attack

Parma most probably won't let that opportunity pas them that easily.


A game with high scoring potential is in my eyes Torino - Atalanta.

Both teams play open games and provide offensive football.

Players called for Atalanta:
Coppola, Forsyth, Carrozzieri, Talamonti, Capelli, Belleri, Manfredini, Pellegrino, Rivalta,
Guarente, De Ascentis, Tissone, Ferreira Pinto, Padoin, Langella, Inzaghi, Paolucci,
Doni and Floccari.

Players called for Torino :
Fontana, Sereni;Comotto, Dellafiore, Di Loreto, Lanna, Motta, Natali;Barone, Bottone, Corini,
Diana, Grella, Lazetic, Rosina;Di Michele, Malonga, Stellone, Ventola.

I'll keep my stakes low as for torino will miss Pisano, Recoba ,Bjelanovic and Zanetti ,
so their offensive power is a bit reduced.


Genoa will have some important missings : Boriello(important stiker) is a mjajor doubt , Bovo
(important defender) , Rubinho (goalkeepeer) ,Paro (important midfielder) and defender Santos.
They called some primavera players to fill in the gaps.

Players called for Juventus:
1 Buffon, 2 Birindelli, 3 Chiellini, 5 Zebina, 6 Zanetti, 7 Salihamidzic, 8 Camoranesi,
9 Iaquinta, 10 Del Piero, 12 Belardi, 13 Vanstrattan, 17 Trezeguet, 20 Palladino, 21 Grygera,
22 Sissoko, 23 Nocerino, 25 Stendardo, 30 Tiago, 33 Legrottaglie.

Even with those missing at Genoa , i hesitate before taking Juve to win, they are not doing that
great at the moment but if they want to keep their 3rd place they need as much points as
possible.
by Robert ,preview also posted on www.sportpunters.ro
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Plus I'm not sure if Milan "want" that CL spot anymore
Its must be a joke..With Drogba+Thiago Neves + Matteo Ferrari plus others....You made me laugh and all old players will leave.(Cafu,Favalli,Serginho)
Not as much as I laugh with fans of teams coming here thinking this is a fan forum and making speculation who they want to come and leave from the team. The concept of a club taking a year off from CL to rebuild the squad is nothing new (look at Bayern, Barca in the past) and is understood by most people, but obviously not you funnyman.
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Marco Borriello, Giuseppe Sculli, Fabiano will play today? thx
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