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19-11-07, 20:55
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German 2nd Bundesliga 23-26/11
Mönchengladbach - Offenbach 1.33 4.36 7.43 23.11.2007 - 18.00
Paderborn - Fürth 3.12 3.16 2.08 23.11.2007 - 18.00
Wehen SV - Koblenz 2.02 3.17 3.23 23.11.2007 - 18.00
Osnabrück - Jena 1.88 3.21 3.60 23.11.2007 - 18.00
Freiburg - München 1860 1.94 3.18 3.47 25.11.2007 - 14.00
Augsburg FC - Aachen 2.46 3.08 2.57 25.11.2007 - 14.00
Aue Erzgebirge - St. Pauli 2.03 3.19 3.20 25.11.2007 - 14.00
Hoffenheim - Köln 2.37 3.14 2.66 25.11.2007 - 14.00
Kaiserslautern - Mainz 2.59 3.05 2.41 26.11.2007 - 20.15
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23-11-07, 02:03
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Any reason why Gladbach won't win against the poor travellers of Offenbach?
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23-11-07, 07:04
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Is Polanski playing for Gladbach?
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23-11-07, 07:17
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Originally Posted by amaru127
Is Polanski playing for Gladbach?
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he's usually a sub
probable lineups:
Borussia M'gladbach
Heimeroth - Levels, Brouwers, Daems, Voigt - Paauwe - M. Ndjeng, Marin - Rösler - Friend, Neuville
Kickers Offenbach
Thier - C. Müller, Bungert, Hysky, Pinske - Sieger, Cimen - Reich, T. Judt - Türker, Toppmöller
Kickers with some injury problems, Sidney (Brazilian defender) and Wörle (their best midfielder) got injured last round and are out. That's in addition to a few other long term missings.
Gladbach with full team except for Svärd who's bench player anyways.
Source: kicker.de
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23-11-07, 10:27
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gwen!
according to my information there are another missings for borussia:
ze antonio, compper, lohe, kamidi, flebers, baomyohan and schachten.
i don't now if they are important.
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23-11-07, 12:05
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Hi all,
Is it possible to have info for jena team tonight..I see a good value..
I was watching jena several times and impress me how they play..
One bad thing that i notice there is one player don't remember the name is kind of leader and he lost many chances ..he playing only for him self...
he has nice shot but this not means nothing..
bye
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23-11-07, 12:14
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Paderborn - Greuter Furth
Today, 19:00
Soccer - Ger. Bundesliga II
Pick: Under 2.5 Result: Pending
Stake: 6/10 Odds: 1.95
Bookmaker: Triobet vCash: No
Paderborn team has injury problems for the attackers. Even when every attacker is available they struggle in scoring. Today it will be very hard to win against mighty Furth without their forwards. The best thing they can do is defending heavily their goal and keeping grabbing points with draws. They will win some day, but i am not sure they can do it today.
Furth is not a typical 'under' team but they scored 7 and conceeded 5 on their 6 away games. So they can get an 'under' score against a defensive team.
Double chance on Furth is a possible bet but IMO the value is on under.
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23-11-07, 14:01
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Originally Posted by lurie
gwen!
according to my information there are another missings for borussia:
ze antonio, compper, lohe, kamidi, flebers, baomyohan and schachten.
i don't now if they are important.
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They don´t belong to first 11 and are only substitutes.
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23-11-07, 14:08
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Originally Posted by ProfitChaser
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Originally Posted by lurie
gwen!
according to my information there are another missings for borussia:
ze antonio, compper, lohe, kamidi, flebers, baomyohan and schachten.
i don't now if they are important.
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They don´t belong to first 11 and are only substitutes.
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So what do you think easy home win?
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23-11-07, 14:59
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Originally Posted by lurie
gwen!
according to my information there are another missings for borussia:
ze antonio, compper, lohe, kamidi, flebers, baomyohan and schachten.
i don't now if they are important.
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Zé Antonio (Not in squad)
Schachten (mid,inj all season)
Svärd (inj, mid, 5x f11, 2xsubst, 2x benk)
Compper (Not in squad)
Löhe (Not in squad)
Lamidi (Not in squad)
Fleßers (inj, mid, no game)
Baumjohann (Not in squad)
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23-11-07, 20:03
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yes, on the "absent players" list at kicker site, you can click on player names to see their game logs (even with rating) ... most of the missings for borussia haven't been with them all seasson
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25-11-07, 12:59
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25-11-07, 13:34
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Originally Posted by axi
Hoffenheim - Köln
Hoffenheim without playmaker Carlos Eduardo and striker Demba Ba is doubtful because of toothaches.
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I already put Koln in some of my combo tiickets for today - I hope they will not dissapoint me again - Daum team needs this win to still stay close for Bundesliga ...  :idea:
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26-11-07, 12:57
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1.FC Kaiserslautern vs FSV Mainz 05
Probable lineup Kaiserslautern:
Sippel
Kotysch-Beda-Schönheim-Bugera
Reinert-Demai-Bernier-Bellinghausen
Runström-Opara
Probable lineup Mainz:
Ischdonat
Hoogland-Subotic-Noveski-Rose
Feulner-Gunkel-Pekovic-Vrancic
Borja-Amri
Injurys Kaiserslautern:
Florian Fromlowitz (out; GK)
Boubacar Diarra (out; DF)
Steffen Bohl (questonable; MF)
Moussa Ouattara (questionable; DF)
Fabian Schönheim (probable; DF)
Sebastian Stachnik (questionable; FW)
Injurys Mainz:
Milorad Pekovic (probable; MF)
Roman Neustädter (probable; MF)
Christian Demirtas (probable; DF)
Francis Laurent (probable; MF)
Wellington (questionable; MF)
Miroslav Karhan (questionable; MF)
Once more Kaiserslautern is the chaos club in Germany. Klaus Toppmöller was installed as new member of the board of managment, sports director Michael Schjönberg resigned, member of the board managment Walter Ruda resigned and coach Kjetil Rekdal hits headlines by trash talking with former FCK star Mario Basler, who challenges Rekdals competence.
Nevertheless Kaiserslautern wants to stop their way down in the derby against Mainz on monday. At the moment Kaiserslautern is only 4 points away from relegation zone and with a win they would get contact to Aue and Offenbach. But Mainz will not give gifts to Kaiserslautern, although in their last 3 away games Mainz didn´t produce a goal but they want to defend their third place.
I think the team of Kaiserslautern consists of to many young and inexperienced players. GK Sippel is 18 years old, Defenders Kotysch and Schönheim are 19 and 20 years old, in midfield Reinert is 20 and attackers Runström and Opara are 23 and 22. The 2nd league in Germany this year is very strong and tough and I think the team of Kaiserslautern is not strong enough for the upper half of this league. If you add the chaos around the club and the pressure which comes from the supporters you can imagine how difficult the situation is for Kaiserslautern
At the moment I lean towards Mainz dnb, because they are able to take advantage of the situation in Kaiserlautern.
If you like a little risk there is of course also value in Mainz straight win. But I prefer Mainz DNB
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26-11-07, 15:01
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Join Date: Mar 2007
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great analyzing, ProfitChaser. My thoughts about this game:
1) Big derby clash. Chance for K´lautern to change their season with one game. The fan support is declining because of their poor run, so a derby win could make a change here.
2) Form of K´lautern: lost last game in aachen - they had a great game, chances for 3 games, but couldn´t convert. Last two home games: Two convincing wins against Aue and Osnabrück, goal difference 5:0.
3) Form of Mainz: 4:1 against Osnabrück, deserved win, but two goals too high, they had their problems. Last away game: 1:1 against Paderborn with Paderborn playing one half with 10 men.
Rèsumè: Mainz has better players as K´lautern, but they are not playing their best football at this stage of season, not convincing me. K´lautern is indeed playing their best, but they have one big problem: converting chances into goals.
The most common result: draw, 1:1. perhaps: + 0,5 home win
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26-11-07, 15:23
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Lautern did lose a bunch of big names this summer(Auer, Meissner, Karadas, Macho, Hajnal, Vignal,...), but the squad is still very good and more than competitive IMO!The current situation is nothing else but a pure coincidence, after some wholesale changes during the summer and considering their REAL potential I can see them climbing up on the table very soon!Quite simply, with the likes of Alex Bugera, Demai, Simpson, Muller, Belinghausen, Opara, Beda...,they should be much closer to the top of the table and I believe their strong performances at Tivoli, against Alemannia Aachen, are the sign of some better days!They were unfortunate to lose the match(1:2), mainly because of Josh Simpson who failed to convert any of his "million" sitters on the day!
Last season Lautern have always had a great, noisy atmosphere at Fritz-Walter Stadion, undoubtedly the best one in 2.Bundesliga(even better than many first-league teams) and if we see at least half of that electric atmosphere in tonight's match, then no reason not to believe in Lautern's strong performances here!
Both sides with a very serious goalkeeper problems!Lautern without first-choice gk Fromlowitz who suffered a very serious injury, Mainz with third-choice gk Ischdonat in goal as both Wache(1st) and Wetklo(2nd) are ruled out through injuries!
Kaiserslautern(3.00)
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26-11-07, 16:28
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I am goin to take Over 2.5 Goalz with medium stakes..I don't wanna lose some money with ''Monday Syndrome'' lol..Both team will miss first GK's and its a derby game..K'ser stadium atmosphere is amazing..I fancy Over 2.5 with @1.80 odds.
And : Thanx guys for very useful informations.
GL
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26-11-07, 17:52
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Location: Bonn; Germany
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Originally Posted by Achilles
I am goin to take Over 2.5 Goalz with medium stakes..I don't wanna lose some money with ''Monday Syndrome'' lol..Both team will miss first GK's and its a derby game..K'ser stadium atmosphere is amazing..I fancy Over 2.5 with @1.80 odds.
And : Thanx guys for very useful informations.
GL
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At the end of the day this could be the best option.
GL to you
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26-11-07, 18:20
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Originally Posted by kojic2003
Lautern did lose a bunch of big names this summer(Auer, Meissner, Karadas, Macho, Hajnal, Vignal,...), but the squad is still very good and more than competitive IMO!The current situation is nothing else but a pure coincidence, after some wholesale changes during the summer and considering their REAL potential I can see them climbing up on the table very soon!Quite simply, with the likes of Alex Bugera, Demai, Simpson, Muller, Belinghausen, Opara, Beda...,they should be much closer to the top of the table and I believe their strong performances at Tivoli, against Alemannia Aachen, are the sign of some better days!They were unfortunate to lose the match(1:2), mainly because of Josh Simpson who failed to convert any of his "million" sitters on the day!
Last season Lautern have always had a great, noisy atmosphere at Fritz-Walter Stadion, undoubtedly the best one in 2.Bundesliga(even better than many first-league teams) and if we see at least half of that electric atmosphere in tonight's match, then no reason not to believe in Lautern's strong performances here!
Both sides with a very serious goalkeeper problems!Lautern without first-choice gk Fromlowitz who suffered a very serious injury, Mainz with third-choice gk Ischdonat in goal as both Wache(1st) and Wetklo(2nd) are ruled out through injuries!
Kaiserslautern(3.00)
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Agree with the pick and posted it on POD, Lautern have much better climate in the lockers now, Topmoeller should come as sport director, Mainz with flu problems this week and a quality team, that will start to play well sooner better than later give us this great pick.
(0:0) AH home win can be taken at 2.10!
GL!
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26-11-07, 20:13
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odds changed suddenly!
odds now in favor of maintz,
anyone knows why?
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26-11-07, 22:03
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Originally Posted by ProfitChaser
1.FC Kaiserslautern vs FSV Mainz 05
Probable lineup Kaiserslautern:
Sippel
Kotysch-Beda-Schönheim-Bugera
Reinert-Demai-Bernier-Bellinghausen
Runström-Opara
Probable lineup Mainz:
Ischdonat
Hoogland-Subotic-Noveski-Rose
Feulner-Gunkel-Pekovic-Vrancic
Borja-Amri
Injurys Kaiserslautern:
Florian Fromlowitz (out; GK)
Boubacar Diarra (out; DF)
Steffen Bohl (questonable; MF)
Moussa Ouattara (questionable; DF)
Fabian Schönheim (probable; DF)
Sebastian Stachnik (questionable; FW)
Injurys Mainz:
Milorad Pekovic (probable; MF)
Roman Neustädter (probable; MF)
Christian Demirtas (probable; DF)
Francis Laurent (probable; MF)
Wellington (questionable; MF)
Miroslav Karhan (questionable; MF)
Once more Kaiserslautern is the chaos club in Germany. Klaus Toppmöller was installed as new member of the board of managment, sports director Michael Schjönberg resigned, member of the board managment Walter Ruda resigned and coach Kjetil Rekdal hits headlines by trash talking with former FCK star Mario Basler, who challenges Rekdals competence.
Nevertheless Kaiserslautern wants to stop their way down in the derby against Mainz on monday. At the moment Kaiserslautern is only 4 points away from relegation zone and with a win they would get contact to Aue and Offenbach. But Mainz will not give gifts to Kaiserslautern, although in their last 3 away games Mainz didn´t produce a goal but they want to defend their third place.
I think the team of Kaiserslautern consists of to many young and inexperienced players. GK Sippel is 18 years old, Defenders Kotysch and Schönheim are 19 and 20 years old, in midfield Reinert is 20 and attackers Runström and Opara are 23 and 22. The 2nd league in Germany this year is very strong and tough and I think the team of Kaiserslautern is not strong enough for the upper half of this league. If you add the chaos around the club and the pressure which comes from the supporters you can imagine how difficult the situation is for Kaiserslautern
At the moment I lean towards Mainz dnb, because they are able to take advantage of the situation in Kaiserlautern.
If you like a little risk there is of course also value in Mainz straight win. But I prefer Mainz DNB
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1.FC Kaiserslautern 0:0 FSV Mainz 05
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26-11-07, 22:07
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I am sorry for my prediction, but Kaiserslautern are a
DISASTER
and German Bundesliga 2 pathetic.
Rekdal should leave, the way his team plays, thats monstrous...
I am very dissapointed.
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