CSKA Sofia - Toulouse 0-0 04/10

[maniacminer]

CSKA Sofia v Toulouse
H 2.40 X 3.25 A 2.60

first leg 0 - 0 so open match

[bodha]

So silent topic. Friends from Bulgaria, noone believes in CSKA`s win? You were so enthusiastiic about CSKA in Bulgarian league topics (CSKA bought new good players, CSKA is in good form). And now, after 0:0 in Toulouse odds @2.5 for Home win seems to be tasty? Or not?

[Unufri]

Originally Posted by bodha

So silent topic. Friends from Bulgaria, noone believes in CSKA`s win? You were so enthusiastiic about CSKA in Bulgarian league topics (CSKA bought new good players, CSKA is in good form). And now, after 0:0 in Toulouse odds @2.5 for Home win seems to be tasty? Or not?

Not so sure that 0:0 was a good result for CSKA. They will be without their captain Alexander Tunchev. Key player, usually scores 'saving' header goals. CSKA will have to attack and I don't think this is good for the bulgarians. Clear NO BET. Even I think Tolouse's chances are bigger.

[robert8209]

Originally Posted by Unufri

CSKA will have to attack and I don't think this is good for the bulgarians

CSKA doesn't necessarily have to attack, they can easily stand back and wait to exploit eventual mistakes of toulouse.
it's not impetous that they score at 0-0 first leg.

the thing is that french club don't look like they are interested in this competition to much, for them their ligue is much more important, that's why i was conisedering a bet on CSKA, thinking that they will probably be more motivated.

but now i see their first man is missing.
maybe more words on CSKA squad

[TheOnly1]

Some info on CSKA. All players except Tunchev are available for the match. Coach Mladenov said that there will be NO BLIND ATTACKS! For me the game is a very likely UNDER as Touluse is also unlikely to press forward. I think that CSKA will make it to the Group Stage, but it may take extra time or even penalties.

[Ville]

I'm not sure if CSKA are so great out of the Bulgarian standards but really they have the best team (as material) since years. One of the main consistent problems was their dire attack, finally solved with the new signings as Nei, Chilikov and Jose Garces. The only missing is Tunchev as mentioned, very important player but not irreplaceable, the Dutch Quido Landzaat will step in his place.

I hope that the coach Mladenov will be smart enough to start with Chilikov (king of the headers), if Toulouse close the game as expected there will be a lot of crosses fitting his style of playing.

I don't think that Toulouse bigger chances, just the opposite - they were big crap in the first game and I don't think they improved something, watching their games in Ligue 1 since then. All in all mediocre French team, even if they won a CL spot last season that means nothing in such dirty and manipulated league as the French one.

[latso]

The whole week i was pretty convinced about the X2 in this one but day by day my conviction started changing and now i'm pretty much leaning on the HW.
Nei will start and this is a huge plus. I believe that without him CSKA stands very few chances.
Tunchev is quite important for the team but i kinda liked his replacement in last match Landzaat who seems to be a stabile player. Not as good as Tunchev in the attacking phase but good enough in defense.

The main reason i am considering the home win now is the mood of the fans and players.
The motivation in the team can't be any bigger.
But the fans, who are usually a very important part of the team, now is almost crazy.
Everybody on the stands will wear red shirts. There will be some huge flags on both stands from the sides with a lion killing a roster...lol

I believe that the lack of experience of the French team and the heavy atmosphere on the stadium could have an impact on their moral and most important - will have a huge one on the home team's players moral.

So, even though, perhaps slightly lower technically or tactically than the French team, i believe that on the wings of crowd and motivation, the red team could push it to a win.

1-0 i see as the most probable result and a bus on the goal line in the last mins

Odds are good for a mid stakes bet.

Cheers

[kolioop]

Originally Posted by latso

The whole week i was pretty convinced about the X2 in this one but day by day my conviction started changing and now i'm pretty much leaning on the HW.
Nei will start and this is a huge plus. I believe that without him CSKA stands very few chances.
Tunchev is quite important for the team but i kinda liked his replacement in last match Landzaat who seems to be a stabile player. Not as good as Tunchev in the attacking phase but good enough in defense.

The main reason i am considering the home win now is the mood of the fans and players.
The motivation in the team can't be any bigger.
But the fans, who are usually a very important part of the team, now is almost crazy.
Everybody on the stands will wear red shirts. There will be some huge flags on both stands from the sides with a lion killing a roster...lol

I believe that the lack of experience of the French team and the heavy atmosphere on the stadium could have an impact on their moral and most important - will have a huge one on the home team's players moral.

So, even though, perhaps slightly lower technically or tactically than the French team, i believe that on the wings of crowd and motivation, the red team could push it to a win.

1-0 i see as the most probable result and a bus on the goal line in the last mins

Odds are good for a mid stakes bet.

Cheers

so you think under is pretty obvious too?

[FxDi@mOnD]

Uefa Cup
CSKA Sofia - Toulouse / CSKA Sofia @ 2.45 WinUnited

This is also a risk bet. CSKA is in very good form at this moment and they take a good 0-0 from first leg.
This team is first in championship with 6 victories and 1 draw and they come from two important victories, 3-1 over Lokomotiv Sofi and 0-1 at Slavia Sofia's home.
All players except Tunchev are available for the match. Coach Mladenov said that there will be NO BLIND ATTACKS!
Toulouse started ver bad the season. They failed Champions League with and 4-0 lose in Liverpool and they entered with the left foot in this Uefa Cup with the home 0-0.
This team also losed for French Cup against Caen and on the last match losed again by 2-1 against Caen again but for French championship.
The last victory was 5 matches ago and Toulose are under pressure now. They've made a very good campaign last year and at this moment they're are showing the opposite.
First leg finished 0-0 and CSKA will take some advantage here.
Tip Factory bets in CSKA Sofia home win. Good bets.
Confidence 7/10

[TheOnly1]

kolioop: UNDER is the most obvious bet. As said before: CSKA will wait patiently for a chance to score and the french team too. In the first game we had 1 (one) clear chance in 90 min (Tunchev's header).
Of course in this particular game the stadium atmosphere may also play a role. I've seen some Ligue 1 matches and Touluse are surely not used to play in smoke bomb clowded stadiums full of very partisan and hostile fans I can remember that even the Bayer 04 players were pretty impressed after their loss 2 years ago that even the main stands were full with wild supporters fireworks.

[dancer]

Originally Posted by robert8209

CSKA doesn't necessarily have to attack, they can easily stand back and wait to exploit eventual mistakes of toulouse.
it's not impetous that they score at 0-0 first leg.

If some team play 0:0 like guest they for sure expect to win at home and if they expect that they can NOT easily stand back and wait to exploit eventual mistakes of Toulouse. Also, Touluse is team which have a good ofensive players and they will give at list a one goal. So, for me first bet here is that Touluse give a goal and will not lose.

[FLAME]

NO BET game - everything is possible.
I still don't like how CSKA play, but Toulouse was too weak in the first game and if they play the same way they will have problems.
And something to remember - in the last 10-15 years ,there was enough games when CSKA failed to go ahead at home after good away result.

[latso]

If it was a champiochip kind of game, i would say that the under is likely to happen in over 75% of the cases but i would prefer to skip the u/o as in second legs, there is always the chance of a va-bank paly in the last 5-10 mins and you never know who will get lucky.
If by any chance the game gets into the 1-1 scenario shortly before the end, i believe there is a good chance for one of the teams to score.

I would skip this option

[dancer]

2.50 3.10 2.50

Is this realy odds for the home who make 0:0 like guest and for guest which has no much interest to play in UEFA cup like somebody say?
I am not sure.

[jay_gordon]

I don't think there will be more than one goal in this game. Cska are not playing that good everybody is considering them. They had a lot of luck in the last matches vs Pirin, Slavia, Lokomotiv Sofia (where they scored an offside goal and had a ridicilous penalty being one man down at HT). In the first match cska and Toulouse had only about 3 attempts on goal and NO (0 for 90 minutes) shot on goal.

I must say I don't agree with latso about Nei. This player is toooooo overestimated. It will be bad for cska if they start to depend only on him like they do in home games. In the first match vs Toulouse he was alone up front and with 4 defenders on his back and he had really hard time. Now it is cska which HAVE TO attack and score goals. It will be much better for them to start with Chilikov, but I quite doubt this may happen. He is a real goalscorer, not just consumer as Nei. His goals come on the empty net or with headers against mediocre Bulgarian teams. And to all who may start to argue about this issue I will say that the goal against Omonia from the center of ground was one of the luckiest things I've seen in UEFA Cup.
I really doubt cska physical form. If they don't score till the 70-th minute or if they are losing by that time I thin they will stand no chance.
Injuries in the last match against Slavia were very strange. Almost nothing happened to the players and they just fell on the ground. Call me crazy but think Tunchev is simulating. He is hunted by old memories. He was the man responsible for Lokomotiv Plovdiv being ousted by Bolton two years ago. Then he scored an own goal in the end. Last year he played good against Besiktas and once again he did not manage to go in the group stage. I think he is fine and did not want to play in this match. He is scared and is in his nature as much as I may know him.
Toulouse don't seem as a quality team. I expected them to trash easily cska in the first game. This did not happen. It is quite true they don't seem motivated in this tournament, but they are playing as worse in the domestic championships. I'm sure they can win vs cska. The two teams are weak and I can't see them scoring more than once in that match. The one that scores first will be the winner.

[RomanZ]

Not so sure about the UNDER option. In the first leg CSKA aimed not to concede a goal, which they did calmly, using 4 defenders and three defensive midfielders. Perhaps Mladenov will try the same tonight, counting on lucky goal or on penalties. Otherwise he might choose to attack, which IMO will be fatal because of CSKA fragile and SLOW defence. Don't think the home team could achieve something in an open game. And their physical condition is far from perfect - most important players get obviously tired arond 60-70-th minute, as we saw in the first leg and a few more times this season. I'll bet on DRAW ON HALFTIME (4/10), as I expect both teams to start cautiously

[FxDi@mOnD]

Originally Posted by FxDi@mOnD

Uefa Cup
CSKA Sofia - Toulouse / CSKA Sofia @ 2.45 WinUnited

This is also a risk bet. CSKA is in very good form at this moment and they take a good 0-0 from first leg.
This team is first in championship with 6 victories and 1 draw and they come from two important victories, 3-1 over Lokomotiv Sofi and 0-1 at Slavia Sofia's home.
All players except Tunchev are available for the match. Coach Mladenov said that there will be NO BLIND ATTACKS!
Toulouse started ver bad the season. They failed Champions League with and 4-0 lose in Liverpool and they entered with the left foot in this Uefa Cup with the home 0-0.
This team also losed for French Cup against Caen and on the last match losed again by 2-1 against Caen again but for French championship.
The last victory was 5 matches ago and Toulose are under pressure now. They've made a very good campaign last year and at this moment they're are showing the opposite.
First leg finished 0-0 and CSKA will take some advantage here.
Tip Factory bets in CSKA Sofia home win. Good bets.
Confidence 7/10

CSKA Sofia 1-1 Toulouse

Draw at 90''

[bodha]

Originally Posted by FxDi@mOnD

CSKA Sofia 1-1 Toulouse

Draw at 90''

Wrong.
At 96` minute. A referee prolonged the second half for 6 minutes.

Anyway, I did really strong bet (9/10) for CSKA, and I was really nervous about the match (someone at livescore said in about 60` minute: "99% penalty for Tolouse NOT given":, then suddenly penalty for CSKA, GOAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

and the final result we all know.

Pity.
Probably CSKA was in Sofia too defensive, like someone from Bulgaria in livescore topic said.

Having 0:0 and one goal - it is risky that Toulouse will shot one and what next???

It unfortunately happened
Being too defensive is not the right method to win.

**** **** ****
but it is sport. what to do....