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Old 19-12-06, 07:50   #1
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LA Lakers @ Chicago -5

Toronto @ Phoenix -13.5

UNDER/OVER Betting

LA Lakers @ Chicago UNDER/OVER 202.5

Toronto @ Phoenix UNDER/OVER 215.5

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Old 19-12-06, 19:36   #2
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11/19/2006 Sun CHI 72 LAL 82 -3½ LAL 197 U LAL LAL CHI
12/09/2005 Fri LAL 93 CHI 80 -1½ LAL 194 U LAL LAL LAL
11/20/2005 Sun CHI 96 LAL 93 -5 CHI 191 U CHI CHI CHI
12/01/2004 Wed LAL 84 CHI 92 6 CHI 196 U LAL CHI LAL
11/21/2004 Sun CHI 93 LAL 102 -11 CHI 196 U CHI LAL LAL
03/13/2004 Sat LAL 88 CHI 81 9 CHI 192½ U LAL LAL Push


Last 6 games between Lakers and Chicago.

My bookie is offering U/O 206, i am thinking on taking under 206. What do you guys think?
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Old 19-12-06, 22:37   #3
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2nd pick. Phoenix-Toronto +13,5 @ 1,87 Triobet

We were thinking about this pick till now, and decided to take it. 14 points is a lot for a team, that is demonstrating quite good game. Yes, Toronto has some problems, Bosh is still out, Calderon won’t play too, but there are plenty of players that can play instead of them. This is probably the team, that we would like to win more and more. They got skilled Europeans and their style is more acceptable for us and that style is working. After a bit lazy start they should get better and better and we believe they won’t be that bad as the bookies think for today. 14 points is lot also for another reason - Phoenix used to winning games, but the margin can be from 1 to 20-25 points. Everyone is waiting for this match and every opponent want to play the best they can against a team, who hasn’t lost 14 in a row. Personally I think that that strike will end today and I am even trying small stakes on Toronto win @ crazy 7,9.



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also a small update inbetween

Allen Iverson's going to Denver. The Sixers have agreed in principle to a deal that will send A.I. to the Nuggets for Andre Miller, Joe Smith and draft picks
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2nd pick. Phoenix-Toronto +13,5 @ 1,87 Triobet

We were thinking about this pick till now, and decided to take it. 14 points is a lot for a team, that is demonstrating quite good game. Yes, Toronto has some problems, Bosh is still out, Calderon won’t play too, but there are plenty of players that can play instead of them. This is probably the team, that we would like to win more and more. They got skilled Europeans and their style is more acceptable for us and that style is working. After a bit lazy start they should get better and better and we believe they won’t be that bad as the bookies think for today. 14 points is lot also for another reason - Phoenix used to winning games, but the margin can be from 1 to 20-25 points. Everyone is waiting for this match and every opponent want to play the best they can against a team, who hasn’t lost 14 in a row. Personally I think that that strike will end today and I am even trying small stakes on Toronto win @ crazy 7,9.



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I was just about to post a question, i didnt know if it was only me, that though that this is lil'too much of hendicap. I will try my luck with +13.5. I am still debating about Chicago and LAkers.
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Allen Iverson's going to Denver. The Sixers have agreed in principle to a deal that will send A.I. to the Nuggets for Andre Miller, Joe Smith and draft picks
So I guess they wont miss suspended guys as much.
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The Toronto Raptors and the Phoenix Suns will both be trying to pick up a win on Tuesday when they battle at US Airways Center.

Oddsmakers currently have the Suns listed as 13½-point favorites versus the Raptors, while the game's total is sitting at 214½.

Jose Calderon was taken off on a stretcher on Sunday, as Toronto downed Golden State 120-115 as 2-point home underdogs. The 235 combined points were OVER the posted total of 205.5.

T.J. Ford led the way with 21 points and 14 assists, and Morris Peterson knocked down 23 points as a sub for the Raptors.

The Suns outworked the Sacramento Kings Saturday night in a 105-98 win. Phoenix covered the 3-point spread and the final score fell UNDER the posted total of 222.

Steve Nash had 16 points with five rebounds and 12 assists from 7-for-15 shooting, while Amare Stoudemire added a team-high 20 points.

Current streak:
Toronto has won 3 straight games.
Phoenix has won 14 straight games.


Team records:
Toronto: 10-14 SU, 14-10 ATS
Phoenix: 17-6 SU, 14-8-1 ATS


Toronto most recently:
When playing on Tuesday are 5-5
Before playing LA Clippers are 5-5
After playing Golden State are 5-5
After a win are 4-6

Phoenix most recently:
When playing on Tuesday are 4-6
Before playing Denver are 8-2
After playing Sacramento are 8-2
After a win are 10-0


A few trends to consider:
The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Toronto's last 5 games on the road
The total has gone UNDER in 7 of Toronto's last 8 games
Toronto is 4-1 ATS in its last 5 games on the road
Toronto is 4-0-1 ATS in its last 5 games when playing on the road against Phoenix
Phoenix is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games at home
The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Phoenix's last 5 games
Phoenix is 5-0 SU in its last 5 games
Phoenix is 4-1 SU in its last 5 games when playing Toronto


Next up:
Toronto at LA Clippers, Wednesday, December 20
Phoenix at Denver, Wednesday, December 20


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Allen Iverson's going to Denver. The Sixers have agreed in principle to a deal that will send A.I. to the Nuggets for Andre Miller, Joe Smith and draft picks
So I guess they wont miss suspended guys as much.
I think they will. Philly is big winner of this deal. They get 2 draft picks alongside with their one pick, meaning three first-rounders. That is good. They swapped selfish AI, who indeed could win games by himself, for Miller, who also is decent shooter, capable at going 15+ PPG and better PG than Iverson. And they got last years of Joe Simth's fat contract, meaning a lot of salary cap space this offseason.

Denver are big losers. Iverson and Anthony are like Yin and Yang... No, wait. They are like Yin and Yin. Two selfish scorers. Do you seriously expect both Melo and AI going 30 PPG ?

Suns -5,5 is a big bet tommorow.
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- The fans at United Center will be treated to a game between the Los Angeles Lakers and the Chicago Bulls when they take their seats on Tuesday.

Oddsmakers currently have the Bulls listed as 5-point favorites versus the Lakers, while the game's total is sitting at 202½.

The Lakers lost to Washington 147-141 in overtime as a 5.5-point favorite last time out. The combined score went OVER the posted over/under total (213.5).

Kobe Bryant led the Lakers with 45 points and 10 assists, while Vladimir Radmanovic netted 27 points in the loss.

Kirk Hinrich and Andres Nocioni each scored 24 points on Saturday night to lead the Bulls to a 106-104 overtime win over the Atlanta Hawks.

The Bulls, however, failed to cover the 3.5-point spread on the road in that contest, while the combined score went OVER the posted total (193.5).

Current streak:
Chicago has won 4 straight games.


Team records:
Los Angeles: 16-8 SU, 14-9-1 ATS
Chicago: 14-10 SU, 11-13 ATS


Los Angeles most recently:
When playing on Tuesday are 6-4
Before playing Minnesota are 6-4
After playing Washington are 3-7
After a loss are 7-3

Chicago most recently:
When playing on Tuesday are 4-6
Before playing New York are 6-4
After playing Atlanta are 7-3
After a win are 9-1


A few trends to consider:
The total has gone UNDER in 5 of the LA Lakers last 5 games when playing Chicago
The total has gone OVER in 7 of the LA Lakers last 9 games on the road
LA Lakers are 5-2 SU in their last 7 games when playing Chicago
LA Lakers are 12-5 SU in their last 17 games
The total has gone UNDER in 5 of Chicago's last 5 games when playing LA Lakers
Chicago is 11-1 SU in its last 12 games
Chicago is 10-1 SU in its last 11 games at home
Chicago is 4-1 ATS in their last 5 games when playing at home against LA Lakers


Next up:
LA Lakers at Minnesota, Wednesday, December 20
Chicago at New York, Friday, December 22


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Allen Iverson's going to Denver. The Sixers have agreed in principle to a deal that will send A.I. to the Nuggets for Andre Miller, Joe Smith and draft picks
So I guess they wont miss suspended guys as much.
I think they will. Philly is big winner of this deal. They get 2 draft picks alongside with their one pick, meaning three first-rounders. That is good. They swapped selfish AI, who indeed could win games by himself, for Miller, who also is decent shooter, capable at going 15+ PPG and better PG than Iverson. And they got last years of Joe Simth's fat contract, meaning a lot of salary cap space this offseason.

Denver are big losers. Iverson and Anthony are like Yin and Yang... No, wait. They are like Yin and Yin. Two selfish scorers. Do you seriously expect both Melo and AI going 30 PPG ?

Suns -5,5 is a big bet tommorow.
That is what i though off, when i was reading about Iverson. What i ment to say, they are not going to loose on short term, because he will replace Anthony. But on long run they will loose. I agree with you, Maybe they are trying to build team (like DALLAS). Dallas can shoot from everywhere on the court.
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214.5 for Suns-Raptors sounds nice! Suns likes 3digits, raptors too I'm expeceting suns to score about 110-120. Suns doesnt have any defence and if raptors can score 120 against gsw why not 100-105 against suns?

214.5 really good over
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214.5 for Suns-Raptors sounds nice! Suns likes 3digits, raptors too I'm expeceting suns to score about 110-120. Suns doesnt have any defence and if raptors can score 120 against gsw why not 100-105 against suns?

214.5 really good over
I wouldnt doubt taking them over, if for the past 5 games they didnt go under.
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hi guys,

is there a website where we can see the results of the past games between 2 teams??

thanks!!
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is there a website where we can see the results of the past games between 2 teams??

thanks!!
Many sites, forexample : http://www.betexplorer.com/basketbal...atchid=6128145
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what do you think about TJ FORD total assist + steal over 9
and ben wallace ribaund block over 14?
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214.5 for Suns-Raptors sounds nice! Suns likes 3digits, raptors too I'm expeceting suns to score about 110-120. Suns doesnt have any defence and if raptors can score 120 against gsw why not 100-105 against suns?

214.5 really good over
I wouldnt doubt taking them over, if for the past 5 games they didnt go under.
Under again 213.0
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214.5 for Suns-Raptors sounds nice! Suns likes 3digits, raptors too I'm expeceting suns to score about 110-120. Suns doesnt have any defence and if raptors can score 120 against gsw why not 100-105 against suns?

214.5 really good over
I wouldnt doubt taking them over, if for the past 5 games they didnt go under.
Under again 213.0
So ?
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I am trying to say, that it is unlikely that suns are playing UNDER past six games. I hope u are not trying to be a smart ass with me.
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I am trying to say, that it is unlikely that suns are playing UNDER past six games. I hope u are not trying to be a smart ass with me.
I didnt know what you were trying to say. I lost a bet, thought it would be `sure` over game but its sport. They can play hundred under games in row if opponent misses with that %.
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I am trying to say, that it is unlikely that suns are playing UNDER past six games. I hope u are not trying to be a smart ass with me.
I didnt know what you were trying to say. I lost a bet, thought it would be `sure` over game but its sport. They can play hundred under games in row if opponent misses with that %.
You should put this in your head:
THE HIGHER THE TOTAL, THE MORE POSSIBILITIES FOR IT TO GO UNDER!
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I am trying to say, that it is unlikely that suns are playing UNDER past six games. I hope u are not trying to be a smart ass with me.
I didnt know what you were trying to say. I lost a bet, thought it would be `sure` over game but its sport. They can play hundred under games in row if opponent misses with that %.
You should put this in your head:
THE HIGHER THE TOTAL, THE MORE POSSIBILITIES FOR IT TO GO UNDER!

or the lower the total the more possibilites fro it to go over
and of totals move too much then just take the middle :idea:
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I am trying to say, that it is unlikely that suns are playing UNDER past six games. I hope u are not trying to be a smart ass with me.
I didnt know what you were trying to say. I lost a bet, thought it would be `sure` over game but its sport. They can play hundred under games in row if opponent misses with that %.
You should put this in your head:
THE HIGHER THE TOTAL, THE MORE POSSIBILITIES FOR IT TO GO UNDER!
Brilliant.
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