Parma - Osasuna 14-12-2006

[koper]

D Parma 20:45 Osasuna 2.50 3.00 2.50 1.36 1.36 (sts.pl)


info from uefacup.com:

CA Osasuna must avoid defeat to be sure of progressing as striker Savo Miloševi***263; returns to his old club, Parma FC, in UEFA Cup Group D.

• Parma have already qualified for the Round of 32 as group winners. They won their opener 2-1 at Odense BK, then beat SC Heerenveen 2-1 at home and triumphed by the same scoreline at RC Lens - substitute Daniele Paponi scoring two minutes into added time.

• Osasuna drew their Matchday 1 fixture 0-0 at home against Heerenveen then lost 3-1 at Lens, although a subsequent 3-1 win against OB lifted them into third place. A win or draw against Parma could see them finish second but a defeat might see them eliminated.

• Goal difference, then goals scored, then away goals are used to decide rankings when sides finish level on points. Thus both OB and Heerenveen - who are at home to Lens - can potentially leapfrog them depending on results on Matchday 5.

• The side finishing top of the section is guaranteed a tie against one of the third-placed finishers from another group in the draw for the Round of 32 on 15 December, while each pool runner-up will meet one of the third-placed finishers from the UEFA Champions League.

• The two sides have never met in European competition.

• Parma coach Stefano Pioli came up against Spanish opposition in the form of Club Atlético de Madrid during his playing career, appearing in both legs of an arduous 1989/90 UEFA Cup first-round tie with AC Fiorentina. The two teams traded 1-0 wins and then, after extra time, Pioli was among the scorers in a 3-1 shoot-out win.

• Parma's Portuguese defender Fernando Couto represented FC Barcelona in the 1996/97 and 1997/98 seasons.

• Parma left-back Paolo Castellini spent two campaigns in Spain for Real Betis Balompié, appearing 13 times in the league and twice in European competition.

• Osasuna striker Miloševi***263; counts Parma among his former clubs. The Serbian striker spent the 2000/01 season and part of the following campaign at Parma before a series of loan spells with Spanish sides culminated in a permanent move to Osasuna in 2004. He scored nine goals in 31 Serie A games.

• Parma have taken on Spanish opposition nine times in European competition in the course of four two-legged ties and a UEFA Cup group stage fixture.

• They twice beat Atlético in semi-finals on the way to victory against R. Antwerp FC in the 1992/93 UEFA Cup Winners' Cup final and triumph against Olympique de Marseille in the 1998/99 UEFA Cup final.

• In total, they have won five games against Spanish opponents, drawing one and losing three.

• In Italy, they have beaten their Spanish guests three times, losing the other fixture.

• Osasuna have never faced Italian opposition in European competition.

[Nikko]

Ill go for a home win, Osasuna and Lens will compete who will end 3rd, as they probably both want to escape matches with Werder, CSKA or Benfica for example.

[Binny]

Osasuna (Probable) Ricardo; Javier Flaño, Cruchaga, Josetxo, Monreal; Valdo, Puñal, Nekounam, David López; Soldado y Milosevic.

Parma squad Bocchetti, Bolano, Castellini, Ciaramitaro, Coly, De Lucia, Dedic, Ferronetti, Galli, Kutuzov, Lorenzini, Moretti, Paci, Paponi, Pisanu, Rossi, Savi e Virgili


Osasuna only need a draw but don`t think they will sit back and defend for 90 mins.If 0-0 and 10 mins left they will do but they should be pretty clear favourite against a weak Parma side.

2 or X2

[=-ORI-=]

Weak Parma side with all 9 points till now ... hmmmm

[mih]

Does anybody know if any team that is already qualified has shown some interest @ matches in UEFA ? That would be an interesting statistic. Strange things happend when u bet on UEFA games, especially @ italians. Palermo is the proof. I think for Parma vs Osasuna, 2 is a banker with Parma @ 9 points.

[=-ORI-=]

Mybe i'm just a sad cnut, but i don't see any reason why Parma should aproach diffrent to this game, than to any other uefa cup game of late.
There was a lot of talk about Parma fielding unexperienced players&using this cup as a chance to test them, that they don't give a sh1te about this cup etc. etc. So if it's still will be a chance for younger and unexperienced Parma players(and it will be), than nothing will change. No bet against Parma in uefa cup for me. But, GL if u dare to

[Binny]

Originally Posted by =-ORI-=

Weak Parma side with all 9 points till now ... hmmmm

An easy or pretty shitty group with mostly average teams.


9 points,surprised but not chocked.

Maybe Parma win and i lose my money but for good valuable reasons i am willing to take my chances


**** happens,.money gone but

GL

[Kint_]

Parma is just unpredictable in Uefa Cup...5 matches and 5 wins, but most of them were lucky win

Sunday there will be very important match Parma vs Chievo and 9 players of the starting 11 are not in the squad for the match vs Osasuna....but was the same in Lens and Parma won 2-1 even if was already qualified...
strikers Kutuzov Paponi, Dedic and other youngs are good players, fast ones and they play hard coz they wanna show to the coach they can be in starting 11

Osasuna is 90% qualified...even if loosing vs Parma if Heerenveen doesn't win vs Lens... Osasuna is qualified...so I see no such big motivation for them too..draw is ok 100% for them
watching Osasuna starting 11 I see some good quality players in midfield...but nothing more then Lens

watching odds I would go for a draw @2.90 now..and correct score 1-1 @6.6, and 2-2 @18 - BF, low stakes

[PunterHelp]

Parma vs Osasuna


This match is crucial to Osasuna as they desperately need at least a point to go through to the next stage of the tournament. Upbeat at the moment, they are in form and winning their last 4 matches. They will go into this match full of confidence.



On the other hand, Parma will field their youngster that won the last 3 UEFA matches. It is ironic to see how successful their reserves have been in the cup competition and their first team currently struggling in Series A. In fact from last competition, we have seen how potent the youngsters have been for Parma in European competition. UEFA is certainly not their priority but the youngster performance has been impressive so far.



Next Parma match against Chievo will be a important one, however the youngsters will not be distracted for that match and can have full concentration for this one. In term of freshness, Osasuna will have the more tired legs, and this could be to Parma advantage.



I think this will be a draw and a low scoring game. Past experience has thought me not to underestimate the strength of Parma kiddies.

Tipster : lldiavolo
League : Uefa Cup
Stake : 10
Pick : @3.00
Bookmaker : Pinnacle Sports
Handicap : No Handicap

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[Kint_]

according to marca.com Osasuna will miss Delporte and Izquierdo (injured), defender Corrales (suspended) and Miguel Flano (rested)..

I see Osasuna comes from 4 victories in a row, so they seem in good form...but they have a match vs Villareal on Sunday too..and for sure they will miss at least 2 main defenders...I think Parma will score at least a goal playing with 3 strikers

[Velixxx]

Parma will be relegnate if they will not let all first team youngsters in this match and first team players rest for weekend game. If any of first team players will be tired they will lose next game in Serie A for sure. I hope that their menager and owner is not that stupid, that will be better for them but for me it is NO BET everything is possible.

[kolioop]

it depends on attitude of osasuna for me
parma has a lot of luck andthis must end..at lens 2 late goals one in last minute..at odense i havent seen.
and Parma manager must be blind youngsters play very good in uefa and 'seniors' struggle in the league so who is better?
osasune is not that team who was eliminated by hsv and in first rounds of uefa .. nowthey play really good ..but if draw will be sure for progress for them imo they will achieve it butif they will try defend it could ened in 4th win for parma but i think osasuna x2

or even 2 is worth in some combo ..

[Gambet]

guys maybe who's write probably line-up for today match

[blue]

Clear Draw!

[aleksandar83]

BLUE : No way this match to be a draw. I think clear win for Parma.

[kolioop]

aleksandar83 wrote

BLUE : No way this match to be a draw. I think clear win for Parma.

why do you think so ?

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by kolioop

aleksandar83 wrote

why do you think so ;) ?

Why?

Because hopefully Osasuna wont be that stupid as stupid Ajax were yesterday (and i wish them Werder in next round) and if they loose 1:0 they are 100% through as third in a group. ;)

i have already put some stakes on 1:0 exact score.

[gorcha1]

Originally Posted by Nikko

Why?

Because hopefully Osasuna wont be that stupid as stupid Ajax were yesterday (and i wish them Werder in next round) and if they loose 1:0 they are 100% through as third in a group.

i have already put some stakes on 1:0 exact score.

What if Hereven beat Lans?

[fedxxx]

Does anyone know what the goal difference situation is?

I mean, if Osasuna can afford to lose by 1-0 and still go through as the third team, then they will probably shoot for anything close to that...maybe a draw or narrow loss.

Herenveen on the other hand, will have some motivation to fight for the win if the goal difference means they can sneak in at third place.

I refuse to believe that two teams will try and "lose" more than the other. It's a bit insane to think that they will have such a mentality from the start. But, on the other hand, during the game, and according to the result in the other match, it's not entirely impossible for teams to "adjust" their strategy. (See Hapoel match from yesterday)

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by gorcha1

What if Hereven beat Lans?

Its a pretty complicated situation, i forgot about Odense..who still have chances nevertheless.

[kolioop]

gorcha 1 wrote

Nikko wrote:
kolioop wrote:
aleksandar83 wrote
Quote:
BLUE : No way this match to be a draw. I think clear win for Parma.

why do you think so Wink ?


Why?

Because hopefully Osasuna wont be that stupid as stupid Ajax were yesterday (and i wish them Werder in next round) and if they loose 1:0 they are 100% through as third in a group. Wink

i have already put some stakes on 1:0 exact score.

What if Hereven beat Lans?

it would be miracle if lens will get beaten be 3...
anyway i cant see any calculations who is beeter to play against tottenham or galatasaray, benfica or blackburn etc examples...for me no point..to give such arguments..

[Anty]

If Osasuna will lose 1:0 they are out!!! Odense wil be above them cause they scored more goals away.

[Nikko]

Originally Posted by Anty

If Osasuna will lose 1:0 they are out!!! Odense wil be above them cause they scored more goals away.

yes, but not because more goals away, then more goals overall.

[lynyrd]

The rules are like this:

Goal difference, then goals scored, then away goals are used to decide rankings when sides finish level on points.

If Osasuna lose 1-0 or 2-1, they will be out. And ofcourse also out if they lose with more than 1 goal (unless something weired is going on in Heerenveen)

Right now they have 4 points and goaldifference 4-4. Away they have scored 1 goal.

Odense finished with 4 points and a goaldifference 5-6. Away the scored 3 goals.

[enforcer]

il just put that osasuna gives a goal nothing more.

[sbobet888]

NAME POS H(M) W(Kg) Age
- Alfonso De Lucia G 1.85 80 23
- Luca Bucci G 1.80 77 37
- Carmine Biagio Gatti G - - -
- Eros Corradini G - - -
- Fabio Virgili G 1.86 91 20
- Paolo Castellini D 1.86 76 33
- Davide Mandorlini D - - -
- Filippo Mattiuzzo D - - -
- Antonio Bocchetti D 1.83 72 26
- Massimo Paci D 1.85 85 28
- Marco Rossi D 1.79 75 19
- Ferdinand Coly D 1.79 81 33
- Fernando Couto D 1.87 85 37
- Damiano Ferronetti D 1.83 70 22
- Alberto Galuppo D - - -
- Giuseppe Cardone D 1.83 76 38
- Matteo Contini D 1.82 76 26
- Filippo Savi M 1.78 71 19
- Vincenzo Grella M 1.82 79 27
- Andrea Pisanu M 1.73 72 24
- Luca Cigarini M 1.75 72 20
- Domenico Morfeo M 1.70 67 30
- Jorge Bolano M 1.68 63 29
- Francesco Pambianchi M - - -
- Daniele Dessena M 1.79 72 19
- Federico Moretti M - - -
- Maurizio Ciaramitaro M 1.80 76 24
- Andrea Gasbarroni M 1.75 68 25
- Igor Budan F 1.79 73 26
- Zlatan Muslimovic F 1.89 83 25
- Vitali Kutuzov F 1.83 83 26
- Pietro Lorenzini F - - -
- Zlatko Dedic F 1.79 72 22
- Daniele Paponi F 1.79 66 18

[keos AD]

I'm a for a draw here... but small one

[cristianbet]

Originally Posted by sbobet888

NAME POS H(M) W(Kg) Age
- Alfonso De Lucia G 1.85 80 23
- Luca Bucci G 1.80 77 37
- Carmine Biagio Gatti G - - -
- Eros Corradini G - - -
- Fabio Virgili G 1.86 91 20
- Paolo Castellini D 1.86 76 33
- Davide Mandorlini D - - -
- Filippo Mattiuzzo D - - -
- Antonio Bocchetti D 1.83 72 26
- Massimo Paci D 1.85 85 28
- Marco Rossi D 1.79 75 19
- Ferdinand Coly D 1.79 81 33
- Fernando Couto D 1.87 85 37
- Damiano Ferronetti D 1.83 70 22
- Alberto Galuppo D - - -
- Giuseppe Cardone D 1.83 76 38
- Matteo Contini D 1.82 76 26
- Filippo Savi M 1.78 71 19
- Vincenzo Grella M 1.82 79 27
- Andrea Pisanu M 1.73 72 24
- Luca Cigarini M 1.75 72 20
- Domenico Morfeo M 1.70 67 30
- Jorge Bolano M 1.68 63 29
- Francesco Pambianchi M - - -
- Daniele Dessena M 1.79 72 19
- Federico Moretti M - - -
- Maurizio Ciaramitaro M 1.80 76 24
- Andrea Gasbarroni M 1.75 68 25
- Igor Budan F 1.79 73 26
- Zlatan Muslimovic F 1.89 83 25
- Vitali Kutuzov F 1.83 83 26
- Pietro Lorenzini F - - -
- Zlatko Dedic F 1.79 72 22
- Daniele Paponi F 1.79 66 18

where did u get the line ups ????

[SOSA]

with that line up I go for Parma!