NLB(Adriatic) 27-28.10.

Buducnost Podgorica - KK Zagreb 27.10.06 20:00 1,25 3,60
KK Zadar - Crvena Zvevda Beograd 28.10.06 16:30 1,80 1,80
Siroki Hercegtisak - Split Co 28.10.06 17:00 1,40 2,50
Hemofarm Vrsac - Helios Domzale 28.10.06 18:00 1,05 8,50
Partizan Mobtel Belgrad - KK FMP 28.10.06 18:00 1,30 3,20
Cibona VIP Zagreb - Union Olimpija 28.10.06 20:00 1,20 4,20
Geoplin Slovan - Bosna Sarajevo 29.10.06 18:00 1,75 1,85

odds:bet-at-home

[Velixxx]

Situation is very easy in this game. Buducnost lose in last game in their domestic competition against Lovcen so they are shocked their supporters but they promised that will make it correct against Zagreb and make an excuse for their supporters so I expect a good margin win for Buducnost because they play really good on home court, have players which known themself and knows playing as a team. Zagreb only wants to show an agressive game no matter they win or lose, that say his coach Radulovic. So I think that they will came for an lose in Podgorica and clear home win margin about +8 or over is good to accept(I still don't have margin offer in my bookies).

[jugo]

I find no value in Buducnost win at 1.25.
Of course they want to win and forget the defeat against Lovcen, but Zagreb has a good team this year. Their away games against Zvezda and FMP were close until the 4th quarter...
So probably no bet for me.

Originally Posted by Velixxx

Situation is very easy in this game. Buducnost lose in last game in their domestic competition against Lovcen so they are shocked their supporters but they promised that will make it correct against Zagreb and make an excuse for their supporters so I expect a good margin win for Buducnost because they play really good on home court, have players which known themself and knows playing as a team. Zagreb only wants to show an agressive game no matter they win or lose, that say his coach Radulovic. So I think that they will came for an lose in Podgorica and clear home win margin about +8 or over is good to accept(I still don't have margin offer in my bookies).

so for know all looks for buducnost win.

kamei24:maybe will some important buducnost player miss?

[_constantine_]

Buducnost-Zagreb

Clear home win for me here. Buducnost is a home team and is hard to bet against them in Podgorica. I cant see Zagreb wining here. For me they are one of the weakest teams with Slovan and Siroki in the NLB league. When Zagreb plays home they have some chances but away no chance. 1.25 8/10 stake on HW

Siroki-Split
I hoped that it would be 1.6 on HW but a 1.4 is not so bad should be a HW.

Slovan-Bosna
This will be a close one. Bosna on the wings of the win against Cibona and with 2 new signings center Rahimic and last year playmaker Tomovic returns from Greece. They are coming to Slovan very optimistic to win in my opinion the poorest team in NLB. Still Slovan is playing home and Bosna is very bad away from Sarajevo. I will skip this one or Ill maybe play on Slovan but with little stakes.
P.S. Dont know if Bavcic s goona play. They say that its a minor injury and Im not sure did Bosna have the time to register Rahimic and Tomovic for the match against Slovan more info tomorow

Cibona-Olimpija
I think that the value here is on AW 4.2 incredible odds that will raise after Cibona win today. I know that the key player for Olimpija (Arslan) is missing but the Balcan psyhology could be a factor here. One thing that I didnt like is that the main scorer for Cibona today was actualy a better defensive then offensive player. I will try AW with 2/10 stakes

Originally Posted by _constantine_

Siroki-Split
I hoped that it would be 1.6 on HW but a 1.4 is not so bad should be a HW.

l have 1.5 in local and l will take it with medium/high stake.

[Velixxx]

Originally Posted by puntek

so for know all looks for buducnost win.

kamei24:maybe will some important buducnost player miss?

Yes but with handicap, because odds around 1.25 have not any sense. around -7 or -8 is ok to accept Buducnost

Originally Posted by Velixxx

Yes but with handicap, because odds around 1.25 have not any sense. around -7 or -8 is ok to accept Buducnost

as l said l play only combos and l wil realy study this combo....maybe l will play them with real and chelsea(maybe siroki on this combo)....partizan looks good too but l dont know how tired they are.

[Janger]

Originally Posted by Velixxx

Situation is very easy in this game. Buducnost lose in last game in their domestic competition against Lovcen so they are shocked their supporters but they promised that will make it correct against Zagreb and make an excuse for their supporters so I expect a good margin win for Buducnost because they play really good on home court, have players which known themself and knows playing as a team. Zagreb only wants to show an agressive game no matter they win or lose, that say his coach Radulovic. So I think that they will came for an lose in Podgorica and clear home win margin about +8 or over is good to accept(I still don't have margin offer in my bookies).

I'm not shure mate,Zagreb isn't a bad team,I was watched team vs FMP,homes in that moment play on un-expect high level.GL
Best bet for me are Partizan,Red Star.FMP always show great play in "Pionir" but Partizanis looking for the revenge,it will be a good game and I see only Partizan to win.About Red Star,the reason is in Zadar poor performance this year,also the sqaud is to week. :wink:

[jugo]

FMP - Partizan will be played in Zeleznik and not in Pionir (because of european championship in judo).

FMP lost Savanovic, but home it is usually difficult to win against them.
And Partizan thinks about euroleague...
So...

[_constantine_]

Originally Posted by jugo

FMP - Partizan will be played in Zeleznik and not in Pionir (because of european championship in judo).

FMP lost Savanovic, but home it is usually difficult to win against them.
And Partizan thinks about euroleague...
So...

very important info I will place a bet on FMP with 5/10 stakes with this odds its really good. Rahimic and Tomovic will play and Bavcic didnt recover so he will not play. Buducnost played well against FMP and I think that Zagreb cant win in Montenegro especialy now when Buducnost has got Jeretin. I have 1.35 on Buducnost and Ill take it with high stakes

Originally Posted by jugo

FMP - Partizan will be played in Zeleznik and not in Pionir (because of european championship in judo).

so than will FMP play at home...if will be "normal" round and FMP will play at home than will be odd around 1.8 for FMP and 1.7 for partizan.for me NO BET cos of that cos odd on partizan looks realy small.all in all partizan will play away. :?

[Velixxx]

Originally Posted by puntek

so than will FMP play at home...if will be "normal" round and FMP will play at home than will be odd around 1.8 for FMP and 1.7 for partizan.for me NO BET cos of that cos odd on partizan looks realy small.all in all partizan will play away. :?

Agree, Partizan win in both games as guest against FMP last season, I don' see any way to put any coin of money on odds about 1.35 on Partizan even they are better team and should easily win this one. NO BET

[jugo]

Actually bookies should change the match and the odds on Partizan !
Otherwise bets will be void...

Originally Posted by jugo

Actually bookies should change the match and the odds on Partizan !
Otherwise bets will be void...

but are you 100% that they will play in zeleznik...why partizan didnt take some other place?

[strandns]

Originally Posted by puntek

but are you 100% that they will play in zeleznik...why partizan didnt take some other place?

Come on, people, Zeleznik is the suburb of Belgrade, don't take this too seriously.
It's normal that Partizan took that arena, as it's the best alternative one in Belgrade. Also, no home advantage for FMP coould happen EVER when they play Partizan or Zvezda, as comparing to them, FMP don't have fans at all.
This changes nothing, surelly not bookies setting of hosts.

Originally Posted by strandns

Come on, people, Zeleznik is the suburb of Belgrade, don't take this too seriously.
It's normal that Partizan took that arena, as it's the best alternative one in Belgrade. Also, no home advantage for FMP coould happen EVER when they play Partizan or Zvezda, as comparing to them, FMP don't have fans at all.
This changes nothing, surelly not bookies setting of hosts.

changed a lot....why? in normal situacion partizan will have at lest 1.6 but now is realy small...to small to risk.

[strandns]

Originally Posted by puntek

changed a lot....why? in normal situacion partizan will have at lest 1.6 but now is realy small...to small to risk.

You didn't get it.
My point wasn't that a lot have changed, but that NOTHING has changed.
Partizan will have the fan advantage, whatever part of Belgrade they play vs FMP.

[jugo]

strandns, of course Partizan has more fans than FMP, but this match is officially FMP-Partizan and not Partizan-FMP.
So it is an away match for Partizan and odds of 1.25 are not fair.

[jugo]

In other words it is a change of the calendar :
Instead of having Partizan-FMP 28.10 and FMP-Partizan 03.02 we have the FMP-Partizan 28.10 and Partizan-FMP 03.02.

I hope it's clear now

[strandns]

Adriatic league official site:

FMP moved to Pionir due to ju-jitsu

Although the game between Partizan and FMP should be played in Železnik, both clubs agreed to change the location. Namely, since the European Championship in ju-jitsu is taking place in Belgrade on Saturday and Sunday and the sport's hall of FMP will be therefore occupied, both teams will meet in sport's hall Pionir in stead.

hemofarm-helios domzale

l was talking with jugo and in helios team will miss three players....pavic,krejic and janza.pavic is very important player also krejic is good shooter. hemofarm show great form in last matches so hemofarm -15.5 looks nice.
l will take hemofarm -15.5.

[jugo]

Originally Posted by strandns

Adriatic league official site:

FMP moved to Pionir due to ju-jitsu

Although the game between Partizan and FMP should be played in Železnik, both clubs agreed to change the location. Namely, since the European Championship in ju-jitsu is taking place in Belgrade on Saturday and Sunday and the sport's hall of FMP will be therefore occupied, both teams will meet in sport's hall Pionir in stead.

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And this is from Partizan official site :

Dvorana Pionir ***263;e ovog vikenda biti zauzeta zbog Evropskog prvenstva u džudou u ekipnoj konkurenciji. Zbog toga su Partizan i FMP u dogovoru sa rukovodstvom lige, zamenili doma***263;instva u sedmom kolu NLB lige. Utakmica FMP – Partizan igra***263;e se u subotu u dvorani u Železniku sa po***269;etkom od 18 ***269;asova.

So the contrary...

Who is right ???

[jugo]

NLB official site corrected it :

Although the game between Partizan and FMP should be played in the sport's hall Pionir, both clubs agreed to change the location. Namely, since the European Championship in ju-jitsu is taking place in Belgrade on Saturday and Sunday and the sport's hall Pionir will be therefore occupied, both teams will meet in the sport's hall of FMP in Železnik instead.

siroki-split
as i said l am with siroki....in split will miss kastropil, han and peric and also new playmaker will miss(info from jugo...thank you jugo).so another good info for people who will play on siroki...l am one of them.


about zadar-crvena zvezda
for me NO BET.


slovan-bosna
l remember that l watched last year match and bosna won with no problem...this year l am still with bosna no matter if they are weak away.slovan have very young team and they play with up and down...so cos of that l am with bosna.

[Prija]

Originally Posted by strandns

You didn't get it.
My point wasn't that a lot have changed, but that NOTHING has changed.
Partizan will have the fan advantage, whatever part of Belgrade they play vs FMP.

I don't agree here with you, my friend. It surely makes the difference where they play cause fans are important factor in home advantage, but knowing the court perfectly is even more important imo. Plus psychological advantage of knowing you're playing home.

[Brainstorm]

Dont forget about Savanovic... Whats about FMP without him? He was the most valuable player so far...

olimpija without coach...tomo mahoric resing.

[jugo]

Helios won in Vrsac 72-70 8O 8O 8O

What a surprise !

[ivbuseli]

Originally Posted by jugo

Helios won in Vrsac 72-70 8O 8O 8O

What a surprise !

or What a "suprise" !