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  • cbll
    Senior Member
    • Aug 2009
    • 1781

    Betting via agents

    What's the point of using an agent? Is it too hard to deposit and bet yourself on their website, or whats the hassle?
  • kkkkk
    Senior Member
    • Jan 2007
    • 1304

    #2
    Originally posted by cbll View Post
    What's the point of using an agent? Is it too hard to deposit and bet yourself on their website, or whats the hassle?
    people say there are different limits.

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    • litost
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2004
      • 8072

      #3
      Well asian market may work like that in Asia! where you may know the agent or be from your home town with proven record etc but to trust someone you only know through the web w/o reall knowledge about him is far beyong me and i guess anyone ...
      btw ..so why do people bet through agents are the limits/lines so diferent? can not just one have account on several asian bookies?


      regards.
      ...but then again, who does?

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      • blaudio
        Senior Member
        • Sep 2005
        • 2739

        #4
        Originally posted by GrimReaper01 View Post
        don't want to be rude, but mate, do you have any idea about Asian market and how it works?

        because in Asian market there are people that trust 50000 and 100000 on people we call "agents" because this is and angent's work at the end! And the biggest I bet, the biggest he earns!

        So 7000 is not that big as it seems to you and especially Nachoman had the same problems with about 20000.

        Thanks for letting people know Nacho.
        As LITOST said, it doesn't matter what is the amount, 7000 or 70.000 euro... I think nobody can trust someone else only on mails, msn, skype, etc... I personally know a few agents working for SBO, but honestly I would never trust my money to them (and I know how the Asian market works, and I know how sometimes Asian bookies "disappears" stealing money to people, appearing a few months or years later with another name, another license, etc...)
        take it easy!

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        • Thesoccerexpert
          Member
          • Mar 2006
          • 832

          #5
          **305; saw the posts about mmmbet here and wanted to contribute. I can also confirm that this guys are cheaters however just after talking about 2-3 minutes online with them its not really hard to understand this.therefore despiteplayng from there **305; never left big money inside and since my yield is high **305; sent a friendly warning to the guy informing him about my background a bit. few days later after my withdrawal from there they said me that from now on we cant work with u becouse bank transfer costs is too high etc.excuse was really funny cuz my withdrawal was only 1k gbp from there and u can estimate the high bank transfer cost of that money,**305; sent a mail and said that **305; can cover bank transfer costs from now on ( **305; wouldnt do for sure ) and as expected no reply to mail .

          And as its saidf they never reply to u when u ask somethng ,indeed they have even no site like that,thyr e just copyng odds thats all,and lookng for some amateurs who can lose money in long term,

          STAY AWAY FROM MMMBET

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          • GrimReaper01
            Senior Member
            • Jan 2006
            • 1067

            #6
            Originally posted by cuber View Post
            Why do we need to go through agent when we can deal directly with the bookmaker itself?
            This kind of issue happened from time to time, but most of the time it's because of the middleman being involved, so why don't we learn from the mistake and omit the middleman?
            Because we need high limits and access to Asian bookmakers with high limits!

            Because moneybookers and NETeller doesn't always offer high limits.

            Because direct deposits and withdrawals to bank accounts can easily create problems with law and taxation.

            Because a credit card cannot offer the amounts needed for someone to be a proffesional bettor and live his life based on bettin in Asian markets.


            Once there were the agents, they offered credit, some guys won good money, bought cars and houses and created fortunes, some guys lost and they never paid the agents and the agents stopped offering credit and f***ed the whole bussiness. Once all you needed to become a professional bettor was an agent and generous credit. Now you need to have a generous amount of money by yourself, give it to the agent and then you may start betting.

            Unfortunately, there are some agents that take their revenge for the situation created before with the guys that never paid what they lost.

            There are times that you can win 20000 or 30000 with a bet and make the salary for a whole year... It's not really difficult to answer the question of "why we need agents". Because they are the only ones that can offer high limits in Asian bookmakers.

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            • cuber
              Freshman
              • May 2006
              • 80

              #7
              Originally posted by GrimReaper01 View Post
              Because we need high limits and access to Asian bookmakers with high limits!

              Because moneybookers and NETeller doesn't always offer high limits.

              Because direct deposits and withdrawals to bank accounts can easily create problems with law and taxation.

              Because a credit card cannot offer the amounts needed for someone to be a proffesional bettor and live his life based on bettin in Asian markets.


              Once there were the agents, they offered credit, some guys won good money, bought cars and houses and created fortunes, some guys lost and they never paid the agents and the agents stopped offering credit and f***ed the whole bussiness. Once all you needed to become a professional bettor was an agent and generous credit. Now you need to have a generous amount of money by yourself, give it to the agent and then you may start betting.

              Unfortunately, there are some agents that take their revenge for the situation created before with the guys that never paid what they lost.

              There are times that you can win 20000 or 30000 with a bet and make the salary for a whole year... It's not really difficult to answer the question of "why we need agents". Because they are the only ones that can offer high limits in Asian bookmakers.

              I still don't quite understand this:
              1. You need agent to get higher limit on asian bookmaker? I think we are getting the same limit no matter you are depositing or getting your account from agent (i.e.: SBOBET)
              2. Direct deposit and withdrawal create problems? But what will you do if you win huge amount of money from the agent, don't they also need to send it to your bank account?

              I think if we are looking for higher limit on asian bookmaker, then samvo (or some other services) come in.

              Unless the agent can give you extra limit than what the bookmaker offered (which is very risky, since the agent is taking position against you), I really don't believe why we need an agent or middleman?

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              • asianconnect
                Member
                • Nov 2007
                • 896

                #8
                Originally posted by cuber View Post
                I still don't quite understand this:
                1. You need agent to get higher limit on asian bookmaker? I think we are getting the same limit no matter you are depositing or getting your account from agent (i.e.: SBOBET)
                2. Direct deposit and withdrawal create problems? But what will you do if you win huge amount of money from the agent, don't they also need to send it to your bank account?

                I think if we are looking for higher limit on asian bookmaker, then samvo (or some other services) come in.

                Unless the agent can give you extra limit than what the bookmaker offered (which is very risky, since the agent is taking position against you), I really don't believe why we need an agent or middleman?
                The limits are different. - thats for sure.

                Check it out yourself.

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                • GrimReaper01
                  Senior Member
                  • Jan 2006
                  • 1067

                  #9
                  Originally posted by cuber View Post
                  1. You need agent to get higher limit on asian bookmaker? I think we are getting the same limit no matter you are depositing or getting your account from agent (i.e.: SBOBET)
                  2. Direct deposit and withdrawal create problems? But what will you do if you win huge amount of money from the agent, don't they also need to send it to your bank account?
                  1. Yes sure, 100% different. When I was working with agent I could bet 4000 on a low-leage bet that was no more than 500 in SBObet.

                  2. Not really big problem... You can fix the problem with the agent, break the money in multiple accounts etc... The problem is the label! If you receive 20k from "SBObet" you have problem, you will not have problem if you receive 20k from "David Beckham" for example.

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                  • MNC
                    Senior Member
                    • Mar 2005
                    • 1499

                    #10
                    After almost 3 years in this forum i can say Asianconnect's broker service is more than reliable.
                    One thing is for sure : if you're a winner he will be more than happy to have you on his side because the service is not like those agents betting against you.
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                    • paul
                      Member
                      • Jul 2004
                      • 233

                      #11
                      a couple of things: in Asia almost everybody bets with agents, but they know well them...mmmbet close winning accounts?? it's not a good asian bookies as they neve close winning accounts.

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                      • asianconnect
                        Member
                        • Nov 2007
                        • 896

                        #12
                        Originally posted by paul View Post
                        a couple of things: in Asia almost everybody bets with agents, but they know well them...mmmbet close winning accounts?? it's not a good asian bookies as they neve close winning accounts.
                        Yes. Everybody bet with agents in Asia. But this does not mean that all agents are rich enough to honour winnings. All agents in Asia have bad debts, so if agent is not financially strong enough, they might not be able to pay out to winning customers.

                        One good way to know how strong is your agent is to ask a screen shot of their agent account. See how much credit they are given. The credit amount will be a good guide to how strong the agent is. You should look for agents who have few hundred thousands of credit. The more the merrier. If credit is big, this means that they have a good social or credit standing in their place. This work the same for credit card.

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                        • paul
                          Member
                          • Jul 2004
                          • 233

                          #13
                          You're right...but I wanted to tell a different thing: usually bettors know well their agents and know if they trusthworthy or not.

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                          • 1907zico
                            Member
                            • Jul 2009
                            • 375

                            #14
                            What do those Agents earn from?

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                            • kkkkk
                              Senior Member
                              • Jan 2007
                              • 1304

                              #15
                              Originally posted by 1907zico View Post
                              What do those Agents earn from?
                              in most cases : percentage from your loses

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