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Old 31-01-12, 20:58   #1
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Default SUPER BOWL XLVI - Sun 2/5

NFL Football Football - Sun 2/5


New York Giants +3 1.877
New England Patriots -3 2.050


2.290 Over 55 2.000
1.704 Under 55 1.909


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New York Giants 2.29
New England Patriots 1.704

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Old 31-01-12, 22:15   #2
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NY Giants ML @ 2.25 8/10
Gotta love those giants... They played a fantastic playoff so far, I would dare to say better than the run they had 4 years ago. Now they have to cap i off with a win over the pats and I think this match up really favors them. They have a great pass rush, probably the best in NFl right now and this will make Brady uncomfortable. He won't have time in the pocket and long routs to Welker will be hard to find. I think midget will have a really tough game even though NY's secondary is less than stellar. Anyway Brady's main targets this year have been Hernandez and especially Gronk. He's coming of an ankle injury and even though 99% he will play we don't know where he'll be at. 80%, 60 % ??who knows. One thing is sure though he won't be able to run his usual broken short inside routs as well as he always does.
I don't think Brady's bad game vs Baltimore is a factor. This game means a lot to him and I'm sure he has been routing for the G-men troughout this playoff because he must be aching at another shot at the team that snatched perfection away from him. The Pats will never be perfect again, bank on that but this game is a shot at redemption for him and the survivors of that team. So expect the best brady out there sunday night.
Eli Manning on the other hand is back. He said before the beginning of the season that he has that ELIte status of Rodgers Brees Brady or big bro Peyton. And man did he prove it in his last 5 games. The G-men have been in the playoffs basically for 5 matches as any loss would have been game over. And in these games everything improved: the pass rush, the running game, Boley and the secondary, the wide receivers and especially Eli.
Sure brady has been great this year but right now Eli is red hot and i dare to say it better. He beat the 49ers and Packers. Best teams hands down in the NFC and maybe in the NFL.
So why is the match up bad for New England? Well because NY has the pass rush and wil force brady to throw short, mostly to Hernandez and Gronk. Gronk will not be 100% so there is the first problem. NY shown they can rush the ball. And even though the pats run defence looked good against Ravens and Tebows against the giants I think it's a different story. Having manning means less people can stay to block the run, so Jacobs and bradshaw should amount to about 80 yds togheter. This subsequently will open up the passing game for the giants and keep brady on the bench longer. Don't forget Coughlin is no stranger to this approach as in 07 they kept brady on the bench for the first drive of the game over 9 mins (longest drive in SB history). Last but not least, NY has better receiving options, especially for big plays down field.
Overall i like the giants more, they have been better lately, have more weapons at their disposal and Eli has been incredible. His confidence is sky high, he is the best in the game when the pressure is on and what a way to surpass big brother it would be... win his second ring in Lucas Oil Stadium, "the house that Peyton built"

I also found some other nice Props
NY Giants to win by 1-6 points @ 4.75
Turnovers Under 3 @ 2.20
Hard to see any picks... sure might be a fumble here or there but that's it.

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Old 01-02-12, 15:06   #3
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patriots-3
I have been betting favorites most of the Playoffs and I will do the same here again.
When the line first opened it was at 3.5 and I had no interest betting on such a line but i really like the 3 point line. Giants have been playing exceptionally well however Belichik and Tom Brady will want revenge for 4 years ago. The Patriots offense has been unstoppable and I don't think the Pats will turn the ball over like other teams did during the playoffs against the Giants. And if the Giants don't win the turnover battle I don't give them a shot as I think Brady and his offense will be able to match Eli point for point and Patriots will be scoring touchdowns when the Giants are kicking field goals. Patriots defense hasn't been great but they don't need to be if Tom Brady is on the field more than the defense.
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Old 01-02-12, 20:43   #4
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Patriots@1.709
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I have been betting dogs most of the playoffs and it was profitable with Broncos and twice Giants bringing nice moneyz. I will not bet Giants for the third time...
Think the price for Patriots is solid comparing to what we had few years ago and this yearin regular season. Giants won both of those games, but Belicheat is the best coach in the league and think he will win the way for revenge.
Should be great game in perfect conditions with two great QBs.
I rate Brady slightly higher, but Eli had great season also.
Three main reason I believe Patriots will win.
Firstly, in postseason they avoid having bad halves. It happened in regular season, also against Giants, but when it matters they play more focused/
Secondly, their defense plays better. This defense is not great, but they were able completely shut down Bronces, and stop Ravens when mattered. They tend to allow big plays like against Ravens, and most probably Nicks and Cruz will have some highlights and Giants should score. However, think defense should be able to make couple of stops. They stopped Ray Rice quite well so Giants running backs will not have easy task.
Finally, and what is most important Patriots offense should dominate. Giants have great pass rush but I believe Patriots will use no huddle quite often to neutralize it. Hernandez and Welker should be able to do the job, I believe Gronk will play and have decent game. Green-Ellis is not first class running back, but he is solid and should be able to do the job on the ground against average running defense.
I won't be shocked if Giants win this one, but patriots win is much more likely to me.
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Well stopping the broncos and ravens was not that hard because they brought players from the secondary often to stuff the run and put pressure ag opposing QB's. Fact is neither Ravens nor broncos were a big threat in the passing game. (denver cause of tebow and ravens cause of poor receiving package and decent but not great qb). Ag Giants both run and pass are dangerous so if they bring LB to stop the run, great opportunity for play action and bad match ups between their secondary and NY's big play guys. This is where I see the difference Green Elis is no way as big a threat as Jacobs&Bradshaw. Also NY's pass rush is killer... because of it i really can't say pats defense is better.
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Hi everybody!

I would like to add a few comments also, even if it is not my preferred and comfort zone to work on.

As i have been watching the recent matches of both teams, i think that i might be able to judge them and give some ideas about it.

First, i saw Patriots against Ravens and frankly speaking they are by pure luck in the final.

Ravens had a field goal in the last seconds of the match but were not able to score it, otherwise the match would go on additional time and probably they would lose. During all the match they looked quite unorganised and from what i saw and understood it was more a gift from Ravens.

Now, New York had 2 wonderful matches against Falcons and especially Packers and the last one not a high level one,eventhough they were able to pass through.
For me it looked like their psichological approach to the match were a tense but a very well determined one. This is why Manning did not have a good night against SF.

Anyhow, still the final is quite difficult to be predicted, but i would give much more credits to Giants, if they were able to go through Packers, they can for sure do it again against Patriots. Remember that Patriots are still angry and this may affect them, Giants will take it slowly and it might return to an advantage for them...!

Go Giants..................!

I can not deny that also i am a big fan of them, especially Manning and H.Nicks...!

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La12 on New York Giants (v New England) NFL Superbowl on 05.02.2012

Date and Time: 05.02.2012 23:59 CET Time

Event: New York Giants - New England Patriots


Sport: American Football
Tournament: NFL

Tip: New York Giants
Book: Pinnacle
Odds: 2.29
Stakes: 10/10

Tip: New York Giants +3

Book: Pinnacle
Odds: 1.85
Stakes: 10/10

Analysis: Always not easy to make an analysis for a Superbowl, two big teams play there as New York and New England, two big QB as Brady and Manning and the margin between both teams it's very close because most of the times there's no favourite you can hestimae. Of course you can analyze some technical situation that can lead one or the other team, but on those kind of matches all can happen, the mental way and some three-four plays will probably will be the key of the match.
Anyway New York during playoffs played absolutely better regarding the Patriots that had problem with Baltimore on last round, they look more in confidence and there's a big rewind where Manning defeated the Patriots with an enormous play on the last minute on a Superbowl just some years ago and that for sure will be on the mind of both teams, moreover no way in our opinion to get New York underdogs, as far seems 50-50 match but with preference on NY here.

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besides the actual game are there any props anyone likes?
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Wes Welker to win MVP@17.68 Pinnacle (3/10)

QBs usually get this, but there are couple of examples of WRs getting it.
Price is good as Welker should have good game against Giants, he played them well in regular season and Giants secondary should be focused more on both TEs.
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here are some nice superbowl props found on bet365

NY Giants to win by 1-6 points @ 4.75
NE Patriots to win by 1-6 points @ 4.50
Highest scoring quarter 4th @ 2.63
Team scoring first wins game No @ 2.40
Team to score longest TD NY Giants @ 1.95
Accepted penalties Under 11.5 @ 2.00
Sacks Over5 @ 2.40
Time of first score After 6 mins and 30 secs @ 2.10
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