RasenBallsport Leipzig - Besiktas Istanbul 1.39 6.00 10.00
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It***8217;s already clear that ***8220;The Red Bulls***8221; from Leipzig will extend their debut European campaign but the only question ahead is whether they will be placed in the Champions League or in the Europa League draw next Monday.
RB Leipzig takes on the Group G winners Besiktas who are irreplaceable on the top position and have yet to lose a game in this year***8217;s group stage. Thus Senol Gunes can make some rotations after a marvelous 3:0 win in the Istanbul Derby vs Galatasaray, couple of days before another important SuperLig game in a visit to Kayserispor. After securing the first position in their Champions League group, experienced Turkish coach stated his only priority for the next few months is the Super Lig and we find a huge competition there. Nevertheless, he has enough players to rotate so Necip Uysal, Caner Erkin, Matej Mitrovic, Gary Medel, Oguzhan Özyakup, Talisca, Jeremain Lens, Alvaro Negredo are among the potential strikers tonight.
***8220;The Red Bulls***8221; hope to take the second position but this will happen only if they pick up more points than Porto, who are facing eliminated AS Monaco at home. RBL's coach Ralph Hasenhüttl might be without some key players who all struggle with different injuries. Marcel Sabitzer is the one who will miss out on 100%, while Dayot Upamecano, Willi Orban and Emil Forsberg are doubtful. According to Kicker - Orban should be ready to start here but Upamecano and Forsberg will miss out.
Besiktas have never won in Germany but they can play with no pressure and I expect open football here. Leipzig conceded 4 goals against Hoffenheim in the weekend (playing 45 minutes with a centre-back duo Ilsanker-Konate) which shows their defense is pretty vulnerable and they must compensate with their offensive players.
Possible starting XIs: (According to Kicker, I personally expect even more rotations from Besitkas)
Leipzig: Gulacsi - Klostermann, Ilsanker, Orban, Halstenberg - Kampl, Keita - Laimer, Bruma - Y. Poulsen, Ti. Werner
Besiktas: Fabri - Necip Uysal, Pepe, Tosic, Adriano - Medel, Arslan - Babel, Talisca, Lens - Negredo
More about the game for all interested: RB Leipzig vs Besiktas
Pick: Both teams to score & Over 2.5 Goals
Odds: 2.25 @ NetBet
Stake: (5/10)
Good luck!Last edited by bangelov; 06-12-17, 08:53. -
Just to mention, Pepe, Arslan, Babel are out for sure.
This lineup is expected:
Tolga- Adriano, Mitrovic, Tosic, Caner - Oguzhan, Medel - Lens Talisca Orkan(Cenk)- Negredo .
I expect also an overish game but Leipzig has the motivation to win by 2+ i believe and they will wait for the score of Porto game where the chances are minimum but hope always is alive .
Tolga as starter nerves me a lot and he is one of the worst goalies in the league, don't know in what kind of form he is but for sure he doesn't have the enough capacity to play at the moment.
Will wait for the confirmed lineups once again but the above mentioned one was tried yesterday on the last training.
Good luck with your bets!
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Over for corners right here, hm?Comment
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Over for goals can be as well. Besiktas doesn't have motivation but every win is 1.5 mln EUR , don't forget it too.Comment
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As RB Leipzig doesn't have any experience in Europe for "be or not to be matches", double chance x2 on Besiktas is a pure gift. First they are unbeaten side in UCL so far, they are playing really good, great defense, most probably will have a great support from their fans, beat Galata this weekend, many things go in their favor.
As RB Leipzig was trashed this weekend from Hoffenhaim, i don't see how can you put 1.35 on a team that debuted this year in Europe for the first time ?!!!
I understand that Porto is favorite against Monaco (who is eliminated plus good relations with the Porto as there are many buying-selling players) but this, no way, simple no excuse for bookies
Besikastas to win is worth trying on odd 9,00 3/10Comment
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Not a single BJK fan will be in the stadium.
Not really a great supportComment
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You have to be kidding, right? There will be at least 20 000 turkish fans on the stands. Besiktas will lose here and bookies know it. Their focus is on the TSL game with Kayseri. RBL is very good side, nevermind they lost to Hoffe which is also a good team.Originally posted by Karl-Heinz View PostComment
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Didn't know that Besiktas board asked from RB to close the gate with away fans, to be honest I don't know how can you even do that, anyway they don't want to have same scenario as it was in Lyon previous season, when fans where really up for fist fightingOriginally posted by Karl-Heinz View Post.
Anyway it doesn't change my opinion about this match, can't find RB such a favorite.Comment
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The fact that Besiktas themselves asked RB to close the away gate just shows what their attitude towards this game is. For them it is completely meaningless game, and they don't want to take any risk with their passionate fans for such a meaningless match. If they don't want to take any risks with the fans, I'd assume they don't want to take any risks with the players, as well.
Sorry, but I think that motivation should always be the first issue, when analyzing a bet. All these 'experience, current form etc." have no importance if the motivation of one team is high questionable, while the other team is fully motivated. This is not to say that 1.30 is of any value, just saying I don't buy these claims for "big value in away win".
If there is any value to be found in this game, it will probably be in a live bet on RBL if the game stays a draw for longer time.Comment
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Missing players, short previews, betting suggestions and other informations about tonight's #UCL! Footalyct.com
Porto vs Monaco; 20:45
Porto will miss only midfielder Oliveira.
Monaco is coming in Portugal without defender Raggi, midfielders Lemar, Tielemans, Boschilla, Traore and forward Joveti***263;.
Short preview: Disastrous season in Champions league for AS Monaco, last seasons big surprise, but regarding the last transfer window it isn’t that crazily surprising.. Jardim will be forced to make some rotations as he has several players out injured. Porto needs more points than Leipzig to qualify for next phase and I think that motivational factor will be the key here. Monaco is still a team with lots of individual qualities, but they look pretty weak lately, so I see Porto as a winner of this match. Coach of Porto Sergio Conceiç***257;o knows Monaco very well as he was in charge of FC Nantes last season. Even though I think that Porto will finish on second place, I am not sure about them trashing Monaco, who will probably sit deep and try with counters. Result 2-1/1-0 looks pretty possible to me, so I see value on Monaco +1,75 with odds above 1,80.Comment
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The big value is on Besiktas here, no matter what ! Even if they are not motivated tonight, they are top of the table in their group, they will play 1/8 for the first time since I don't know how many years, and they are having a great season. Just beat Galata 3-0 and are enjoying themselves. People who say motivation is key for this game, let me ask what happens if the Porto is up by 2 goals after 10-15 minutes of play ? As long as I see Besiktas has put 11 decent players tonight Í'm putting my money on them. I'm not saying they are deff winning, as the game can easily finish 3-0 for Leizpig, but the risk is deffo worth it as this game can be influenced in too many ways. Odds for Besiktas around 9.00-10.00 are complete joke and I'm def not a fan of their team, but tonight I will be. Good luck !Comment
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Yes, this can be a factor here. If Porto takes a quick lead, this might indeed demotivate home team.
My only point here is that we shoul talk about motivation, because the only reason why bookies priced this at 1.30 is motivation. If this was a 1st leg game, the home price would have been 2.0-2.20 without a doubt.
So, Porto game will affect this one. It is also important how many regulars Besiktas will use. If they use 80% regulars, they have all the potential to put up a fight and in this case at least +1.5 will have value.Comment
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Exactly. The thing is both team's motvation can shift quickly in this game and we are not really sure what motivation Besiktas has for this game. Just because they have not allowed their fans doesnt mean they are not highly motivated to win. If Besiktas fans do something stupid in a country like Germany((with strong laws)(which would have likely happened) the punishment couldve been no fans for the next game or whatever which would be 1/8 final in CL, a game much more important than todays one. So for me, motivation is not linked with the Turkish team not allowing their fans in today, it is more like a precaution. As you said. I would wait to see if Besiktas have put a decent starting 11 and make my bet, because the odds are just too high and are worth the risk, no matter the outcome. Then would hope Porto get an early goal and from there hope for the best.
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