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Old 03-02-17, 09:44   #301
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You did not hesitate to reveal personal info of members of this forum. We "reserve the right to name and shame" you in return. So you "can forget" about threatening people in future.

tokcok is a singaporean guy working in malaysia in 2007-2009 for a client with email asianconnect@gmail.com
So the founder/owner of asianconnect (which started from 0) has to be malaysian or singaporean.
Real company behind signboard "asianconnect88" is Zimi tech residing in Makati City, Metro Manila, Philippines. So you should be chatting with Filipino contacting asianodds88 support.

Let's name and shame others.
maryrose.delapena@zmtsys.com or maryrose_14 is an HR here
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Or, we have photos as well! Philipp del Mundo works for asianodds.
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Mods, please banned this guy.

we will not be answering to this person posts anymore. we are better off running our business than being bothered about him.
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Wow man, you've been holding grudges for almost 8 years!
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Exclamation Selective voiding of bets in ibc

ibc(maxbet) is not creative in voiding bets.
2 more bets voided, now for Real Madrid - Levante game! A day after, not just 2 hours!
27 Aug 2017 21:42:55 Bet 4424714864 done: 32.00 (of 32.00) @ 1.940
28 Aug 2017 17:53:45 Bet 4424714864 void: 32.00 (of 32.00) @ 1.940

27 Aug 2017 22:10:42 Bet 4424875418 done: 40.00 (of 40.00) @ 1.960
28 Aug 2017 17:53:48 Bet 4424875418 void: 40.00 (of 40.00) @ 1.960

I saved a bit in previous voided bet. If bet were not voided by "smart" ibc bookie, I would have lost that bet

upd.
Suddenly ibc revised their decision. Voiding bets on Real Madrid game is a bad sign even for 1xbet. Sportmarket was useful for the first time in history of using them.

27 Aug 2017 22:10:42 Bet 4424875418 done: 40.00 (of 40.00) @ 1.960
28 Aug 2017 17:53:48 Bet 4424875418 void: 40.00 (of 40.00) @ 1.960
28 Aug 2017 22:54:09 Bet 4424875418 done: 40.00 (of 40.00) @ 1.960

27 Aug 2017 21:42:55 Bet 4424714864 done: 32.00 (of 32.00) @ 1.940
28 Aug 2017 17:53:45 Bet 4424714864 void: 32.00 (of 32.00) @ 1.940
28 Aug 2017 22:54:05 Bet 4424714864 done: 32.00 (of 32.00) @ 1.940

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Old 02-09-17, 12:43   #305
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Bookie ga288 in Sportmarket charges a commission 0.5%, it is nowhere written

Commissions for exchanges change all the time, keep an eye on this:
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(30th March, 2017) Betfair/Matchbook/BetDAQ commissions
Commissions with Betfair and Matchbook will remain in their current state! Betfair commisions remain 2.3% [, but only] until 1st of July; Matchbook commissions remain 1.8%; and BetDAQ commisssion is [temporarily] lowered to 1.2% throughout April for all winning bets placed with respective bookmaker.
I've calculated bf,bdaq commisions from yesterday and I can tell that previous quote from sportmarket' website is not correct at all.
Both commissions for bf,bdaq in sportmarket are about 2.4% now

And sportmarket recently removed betfair for many players:
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(21st June, 2017) Betfair Restrictions
We regret to inform our customers that Betfair will no longer be available if you are a resident of a country restricted by Betfair.
If you are resident of a country listed below, you will not be able to bet on Betfair using Sportmarket Pro service: Algeria, Australia, Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, DPRK, Denmark, France (and French territories), Gibraltar, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Myanmar, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Singapore, South Africa, Spain and Turkey.
It is better for broker to hold calculation of won bets. It's a profitable strategy as you probably will deposit more and more. It would be interesting to measure time exactly, but I have strong feeling that bets that you've won are not calculated for a longer time comparing to bets you've lost.

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Both bets 33324227 and 33326241 were voided after game ended! It is cheating from ibc

I saw after game Real - Levante ended that bets were active. Now I see it is voided.

Message from sportmarket broker from 28 August:
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The bets 33324227 and 33326241 were mistakenly settled as void in IBC's system, so we presented it as well.
It has been corrected now.
Now I see that both sportmarket and ibc are cheaters.

One more evidence that ibc voids bets after kick-off, here even after game was ended! Even for games with Real Madrid. Even when odds goes up after first bet was placed.

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Both bets 33324227 and 33326241 were voided after game ended! It is cheating from ibc

I saw after game Real - Levante ended that bets were active. Now I see it is voided.

Message from sportmarket broker from 28 August:


Now I see that both sportmarket and ibc are cheaters.

One more evidence that ibc voids bets after kick-off, here even after game was ended! Even for games with Real Madrid. Even when odds goes up after first bet was placed.
Just do not use those books that you think are cheaters and you will be a much more happier person.
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Did Betfair applied this policy for all brokers? Or there are exceptions?
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If you are resident of a country listed below, you will not be able to bet on Betfair using broker service: Algeria, Australia, Bulgaria, Canada, Cyprus, the Czech Republic, DPRK, Denmark, France (and French territories), Gibraltar, India, Pakistan, Sri Lanka, Bangladesh, Iran, Iraq, Ireland, Italy, Myanmar, New Zealand, Poland, Portugal, Qatar, Romania, Singapore, South Africa, Spain and Turkey.
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There are brokers which provide access to Molly (the same platform Sportmarket uses) with Bf liquidity on general sports available even to citizens of these restricted countries.
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thanks, bside

Meanwhile sportmarket/mollybet still cannot settle down 1 bet for 2 days already.
Once a week or so I have such "small issue" as they explain with several bets among hundreds being not calculated for days.
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Yeah, it's common issue for Molly. Yet they made some good steps and improvements with the big recent update, let's hope they'll fix the settlement and accounting problems soon enough.
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How is odds calculation in vodds?
Recently they offered 15 euro for survey passing.
I do not expect such thing as bonus or compensation in mollybet/sportmarket.

upd. Something terribly wrong happening in sportmarket. Balances do not match the whole day. Right now sum of uncalculated bets is ~400 eur higher than Current Balance amount.

upd2. Sportmarket' comment: "we have current issue with the display of History - Bets after the new system update which came in place. Our developers are working on solving these issue"

upd3. 6 days passed, 7 bets from Oct,24 are still "open"

upd4. 9 days passed. sportmarket twice insisted that problem is sorted out, but it is still present

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ibc is not working in sportmarket(looks like in all mollybet platforms) for 4 hours already
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New policy in vodds. They now shut down your account if turnover in last 30 days was "not sufficient".

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After reviewing our records, we have determined that your VOdds account is generating insufficient trading activities in the last 30 days. Because we have a responsibility to protect and maintain our system, we've found it necessary to permanently suspend your account.
And I have question about limits of winnings per day, per event. For ibc I tried to sort it out here. Looks like 10000 euro is a safe limit for winnings in ibc per day (therefore per event too).
Sportmarket answered this:
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What about other bookies (ga288, isn, mmm)? Do not want to find it out like efekan after money already lost.

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ibc=maxbet=1bet continues to deliberately void bets approximately once in a month. If you remember epic case when ibc voided bets for Real Madrid game after game already finished.
Yesterday I made 3 bets on club friendly game, all 3 were voided. I don't know when: sportmarket provides no info and it's not clear whether it was voided before kick-off or after game ended.
Odds dropped from 1.65 to 1.47 and even 1.47 was voided too. It looks like ibc missed rapid odds change which happens in club friendlies very often.
I will not be suprised if ibc noticed their loss only after game ended like in Real Madrid case.

I don't know why mollybet software cannot implement industry standart of pinnacle: to send email right after bets were voided or cancelled. There is a place for 1-2 more good and brand-new soccer brokers.
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Thumbs down Confusion with team names in brokers

I made bet in soccer broker sportmarket.com for game Santos Laguna II vs "FC Pacific Women".
I remembered news that Mexican federation wanted to organize women teams into competion in 2017 so I didn't find it weird to see women team in 2nd mexican league.
Anyway away team's name was wrong, Pacific F.C. played instead.

sportmarket refused to have responsibility (as they always do):
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We had the wrong team displayed, correct, but there is nothing we can do in this case
But with wrong team names displayed the only guilty side is broker. If you know, there are Real Sociedad III, Real Sociedad II and the original team playing in Spain. Sometimes it's called Sevilla C, Barcelona B.
Imagine when in broker it is displayed Real Sociedad III but in bookmaker (and in fact) Real Sociedad II, stronger team, played.
You were deceived by broker. But in fact all mollybet' agents/brokers will always send you away since they refuse to have any responsibility.
In most cases they are only intermediate (nevertheless they are receiving 0.125% of your turnover). But in case of wrong team names it's their* sole responsibility to show it correctly.
* - sportmarket or mollybet.com (molly receives another 0.125% of your effective turnover).

So, it's hard to find adequate broker right now. Mollybet' brokers are not at your side at all. Mollybet' agents like betinasia should be avoided, it's just a person like you hiding beside that "betasia" signboard, receiving money from you with no obligations to pay back.
vodds(or eastbridge, it's the same) is definetely better at least in customer relations, they are not bad, but I will not recommend them for other reasons
Since there is still no fourth power, the only solution I see for now is to disperse your bankroll among vodds,mollybet-broker,asianodds in proportions you like and quickly move your money from discredited broker to other two.
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Exclamation afb takes commission even for lost bets

Silently in sportmarket.com bookmaker afb started to subtract 0.5% commission even for lost bets!

You see that bet amount was 470 whilst deducted amount includes commission 0.5%.

There were no notifications about this "innovation".
Even worse: the amount you risk is shown to you incorrectly on trade page.

I think all brokers that use mollybet platform are affected.
I've suspected that all such unknown bookies as igk, winft, lsm, afb cannot be trusted. Avoid betting in other bookies than isn, sbo and pin.

upd. 9 days later sportmarket added to balance by separate transactions that deducted commissions taken by afb

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Since today sportmarket lowered usual bet limit in ibc on my account from 82,5 euro to 49,5 euro which is a reduction of exactly 40%.
Check your limit in mollybet broker if you have one. It could be limit reduction only for me. Or sportmarket was forced by ibc to have 60% PT (position taking).

How your limits gets smaller if you place smart bets.
ibcbet require agents to take a minimum of 40% position taking on all its downline win/loss. Unless the agent want to risk , the effective stake is only 60%
One more guy experienced only 60% of limit on his account
I'm worried how my account lived almost a year not being marked "smart bets"

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I partly understood problem with PT. It looks like sportmarket does not discriminate clients. And accounts in bookies are shared between all users. But it's still a fact: limits for ibc are decreased by 20-40% last month.

Last week sportmarket support is not answering for hours. I don't know why.

There is a problem with isn bookie. Sometimes bets are in status "Placing" for 15 minutes, sometimes even more - for hours. Because support is slow now it can be that game already started but you don't know whether your bet was accepted or not.

And one more thing is bad in unresponsible brokers. Some games are played in distinct format like 2 halfs for 40 minutes. In this friendly game format was 2x40mins but sportmarket as always provided no information about that.
Bookies on their websites usually provide information if odds are given considering different time format. But in broker you will never see that information. So in cases game format is unusual you are deceived.
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Yet another disappointment with sportmarket.com soccer broker.
Imagine that you see "Open stakes" value on balance page
~500 euro less than
sum of open bets on another page

It happens some times but very rarely so big difference (500 euro). And almost never for so long (14 hours of inconsistency for now)

What is more bizarre sportmarket answered that "it's OK":
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Nothing to be worried about as all the bets are accounted for correctly. Usually, these issues resolve themselves during the day.
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So, if game is rescheduled, you will get problems.
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We had a conversation with the developers and here is what must've happened.
1. Some settled bets are displayed in the Open bets section (we are aware of this bug and there is a script that fixes this on daily basis).
2. Orders are combined from different bets, obviously. Sometimes it can happen that one specific event has been rescheduled for day after; that will make certain BETS void, but the order will remain up with full stake, regardless of the void bet.
These 2 reasons must be the case here.
This script that fixes the bug on a daily basis is the most reassuring thing.
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Nature of inconsistency shown above is still unknown. Sportmarket only tells you to believe that total balance is calculated correctly.
But balance is calculated unreliably too. Just to show how erroneous mollybet platform is: about 15 "value updates" happened few hours ago. Calculation of bets made in sbo were corrected. If bet of 100 was half-lost, result from -45 was deducted to -50 and so on. Even won bets were calculated improperly and that "bot" corrected calculations.
One bet for game played at Feb,28 is still shown as open despite I was reassured twice that bet is calculated correctly.

Does the same happens from time to time in asianodds, vodds systems?
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Nature of inconsistency shown above is still unknown. Sportmarket only tells you to believe that total balance is calculated correctly.
But balance is calculated unreliably too. Just to show how erroneous mollybet platform is: about 15 "value updates" happened few hours ago. Calculation of bets made in sbo were corrected. If bet of 100 was half-lost, result from -45 was deducted to -50 and so on. Even won bets were calculated improperly and that "bot" corrected calculations.
One bet for game played at Feb,28 is still shown as open despite I was reassured twice that bet is calculated correctly.

Does the same happens from time to time in asianodds, vodds systems?
I have to agree on how dodgy sportmarket is on those things.
Platform is good, has some good features, but you never know how much the exchanges commision is going to be and now there is also some "kickback" thing where they take a bit more money and the official excuse is that "this is due complexity of the system an inability to display everything as commission" (??).
Of course you can always avoid using exchanges and this things shouldn't happen.
Also had the same issue with sportmarket bets on SBO today, I had some "kickback" money back on a couple of bets and they "fixed" this, i.e. they removed money from my account and who knows if they are keeping it or what.

Asianodds is much more reliable on those things. There are no exchanges available so maybe odds are not that high on some bets, but there are no commisions and everything is much clearer. What you see is what you get, nothing hidden.
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MNC, no one will trust them if they add some money, subtract some later.
betfair odds in betslip are shown incorrectly. Sportmarket never managed to apply 2.3% of commission correctly. If you see 2.26 in betslip, real odds are like 2.255.
In January I had limits in ibc for lower leagues like 82 euro, now I couldn't get more that 61 euro. 25% decrease of limit. Their service is getting worse.
Last what I've seen about asianodds in forums was not in their favor. I remember that in their API odds were shown incorrectly.
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Try asianodds for yourself and you can see if it's like that.

The day asianodds adds exchanges (with a fair and clear commisions fees) and the chance to place an order for higher odds than available, I have no doubts that I will stop using sportmarkets.
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If you have message "live data error please contact your software provider" on mollybet platform possible solution may be updating or changing your browser.
After update aggregated history of bets started to work correctly. I can't understand how placing bets was working while simple bet history was not.
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Sportmarket continued to descrease limits. 55 euro instead of 61 euro now is a limit for lower leagues in ibc (3 weeks ago it was 82)
Right now game Floresta EC (CE) - Fortaleza EC (CE)
Full time over (limits for ibc): 88.5 in sportmarket, 151 in vodds
Half time over: 55 in sportmarket, 93 euro in ibc
What limits do you have on that positions?
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FT o 2.75 - 100 e
HT o 1 - 61 e
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Hi Raabe, thanks for your work here. I just sent a pm (question about limits) thx
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