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Old 17-05-17, 22:55   #1
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Default Ekstraklasa 35. 19-22.05

3 rounds to go...

Playoffs

Legia 39
Jagiellonia 37
Lech 37
Lechia 37
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Korona 25
Wisla 23
Pogon 22
Termalica 22

First team in this season Legia on the top.

Wisla - Pogon

If Pogon cant win against Termalica I dont have a question.
Wisla lose in Kielce but still have chance for 5 place.

Pogon without anything.

Wisla 1X 1.26 6/10


Lech - Lechia

Well... Lechia won against Jagiellonia but Jagiellonia is not Lech or Legia.

After today lost in Warsaw must win situation at home against Lechia.

Remember that after Arka won Polish Cup ...team from place 4 will not play in Europe... Next season with Europecups in Poznan...well... tragedy for them.

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Lechia without winger Haraslin - important missings for them.

Lech 1X 1.20 5/10
Over 2.5 goals 1.84 3/10

Jagiellonia - Legia
Legia show today that play in different league than Lech. Jagiellonai is not better team than Lech.

6 points in 3 matches give Legia next championship

Legia X2 1.32 6/10
Legia 2 2.30 3/10


Termalica - Korona
Important thing: remember last round in regular season? Korona - Termalica 0-1. For me value on away win.

Termalica - Korona X2 1.49 5/10
Korona 2 2.90 2/10


Playouts

Wisla Plock 28
Zaglebie Lubin 28
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Piast 22
Leczna 21
Cracovia 21
Slask 20
Arka 20
Ruch 17

Two teams are safe: Wisla and Zaglebie. 6 tam still fighting - if Ruch will lose against Cracovia they will be relegated and Cracovia will be safe. Very important match Slask - Arka.
I still think about Leczna and Ruch as a team to relegate.

Wisla - Zaglebie
Season for them is over.
Both can play ofensive. Both are material to be in playoffs not Termalica and Pogon.

I see over here.

Wisla - Zaglebie over 2.5 goals 1.84 3/10

Slask - Arka no bet
Cracovia - Ruch: Cracovia ok but without any value.
Piast - Leczna no bet.

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Nice to see that Legia showed to Lech theirs place (I am not fan of Legia). All like expected and as I wrote: Legia found the best shape when they needed.
People in Poznan were so excited about Bjelica and it is true that Lech was merciless against weak opponents but still two facts:
a) Lech against top 3 (Legia,Jagiellonia,Lechia) had just 3 points in 7 games.
b) Lech lost two finals by stupid coach decision (I know it is just my opinion but I believe it decided)- against Arka mistake with Buric as a goalkeeper and yesterday without Robak in starting 11.
Lechia will be without Haraslin and Janicki and those are important missings but still I expect that they will be a very hard opponent to Lech who will be surely psychically damaged. I am on x2 here with a valuable odd 1,95 but just a small stake.

As @AgainstModernFootball wrote Legia needs 6 points in 3 games to become a Champion but key is in Bialystok. Actually I can image that in last round Lech won't find for champion anymore and will give 3 points to Jagiellonia if they still could chance to dethrone Legia. That's why Legia absolutely cannot lose in Bialystok. Odd 1,28 for x2 is good for some combo but I would wait for a full offer of bookies because I expect there a lot of cards, with possibly red.

Plock- Zaglebie - not much to add, 100% agree that should be a goal fest here as both teams finished season. Odd 2,00 for over 2,5 will dropp soon. EDIT: I would rather reccomend BTS @1,85 because simply I cannot image that any team can win 3:0 here.

Wisla- Pogon - I would be carefull here because Wisla played last time against Korona for HT/FT 2/1 which is always suspicious and I won't be surprised if the same scenario will happen here. Pogon doesn't look like a team anymore, when they wanted then they played a good football and won 3 games in a row that's why they are in top8. Defence looks absolutely horrible and yesterday Fojut got injury (he used to be a really great defender but these season is doing many mistakes but still is level above rest). I see that bookies pays around 1,90 for Wisla to score over 1,5 and I see it as a great value. If Gutkovskis did many problems to Rudol then surely Ondrasek will also...

AgainstModernFootball wrote that there is no value in Cracovia to win. But I see odd 1,70 and in my opinion it is acceptable. Cracovia is in must win situation- it is the easiest game which left for them. Then they will play away in Slask and last game against Piast so also against endangered teams. Next round Arka plays vs Ruch and Leczna vs Zaglebie at home so both clubs have easier job so if Cracovia will have 2 draws they could be in a big troubles especially that in case if they will have the same points as Arka and Slask (or both) then they will be behind them. So it is must win game especially that I guess that in Chorzow most of players are with thoughts outside Chorzow and trying to look for a next club.

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Nice to see that Legia showed to Lech theirs place (I am not fan of Legia). All like expected and as I wrote: Legia found the best shape when they needed.
People in Poznan were so excited about Bjelica and it is true that Lech was merciless against weak opponents but still two facts:
a) Lech against top 3 (Legia,Jagiellonia,Lechia) had just 3 points in 7 games.
b) Lech lost two finals by stupid coach decision (I know it is just my opinion but I believe it decided)- against Arka mistake with Buric as a goalkeeper and yesterday without Robak in starting 11.
Lechia will be without Haraslin and Janicki and those are important missings but still I expect that they will be a very hard opponent to Lech who will be surely psychically damaged. I am on x2 here with a valuable odd 1,95 but just a small stake.

As @AgainstModernFootball wrote Legia needs 6 points in 3 games to become a Champion but key is in Bialystok. Actually I can image that in last round Lech won't find for champion anymore and will give 3 points to Jagiellonia if they still could chance to dethrone Legia. That's why Legia absolutely cannot lose in Bialystok. Odd 1,28 for x2 is good for some combo but I would wait for a full offer of bookies because I expect there a lot of cards, with possibly red.

Plock- Zaglebie - not much to add, 100% agree that should be a goal fest here as both teams finished season. Odd 2,00 for over 2,5 will dropp soon. EDIT: I would rather reccomend BTS @1,85 because simply I cannot image that any team can win 3:0 here.

Wisla- Pogon - I would be carefull here because Wisla played last time against Korona for HT/FT 2/1 which is always suspicious and I won't be surprised if the same scenario will happen here. Pogon doesn't look like a team anymore, when they wanted then they played a good football and won 3 games in a row that's why they are in top8. Defence looks absolutely horrible and yesterday Fojut got injury (he used to be a really great defender but these season is doing many mistakes but still is level above rest). I see that bookies pays around 1,90 for Wisla to score over 1,5 and I see it as a great value. If Gutkovskis did many problems to Rudol then surely Ondrasek will also...

AgainstModernFootball wrote that there is no value in Cracovia to win. But I see odd 1,70 and in my opinion it is acceptable. Cracovia is in must win situation- it is the easiest game which left for them. Then they will play away in Slask and last game against Piast so also against endangered teams. Next round Arka plays vs Ruch and Leczna vs Zaglebie at home so both clubs have easier job so if Cracovia will have 2 draws they could be in a big troubles especially that in case if they will have the same points as Arka and Slask (or both) then they will be behind them. So it is must win game especially that I guess that in Chorzow most of players are with thoughts outside Chorzow and trying to look for a next club.
Always when there is a posibility for such scenario, I like to bet on over 2,5 goals.
Because you can not fix 1/2 without an over.
And there are other reasons why this would be a good over, Wisla Krakow being the most important one.
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PIAST GLIWICE -0,25 1,81 WISLA KRAKOW -0,5 1,98 LEGIA -0,5 1,98

Piast is playing well, Leczna beat Krakow scoring the first two goals on inactive balls (Krakow's defense two mistakes)

Kiko Ramirez wants to win, after the immortal defeat of Kielce, does not play Ondrasek who is not a holder, Pogon disqualified the Hungarian Gyurcso and Franczak did not think he came back

Legia is at the top of the form now that counts, winning this title mortgage

Krakow wins me, Slask-Arka does not bet, Wisla Plock-Zaglebie and Thermal-Korona possible many networks, Lech Poznan -0.5 not game dead
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Nice to see that Legia showed to Lech theirs place (I am not fan of Legia). All like expected and as I wrote: Legia found the best shape when they needed.
People in Poznan were so excited about Bjelica and it is true that Lech was merciless against weak opponents but still two facts:
a) Lech against top 3 (Legia,Jagiellonia,Lechia) had just 3 points in 7 games.
b) Lech lost two finals by stupid coach decision (I know it is just my opinion but I believe it decided)- against Arka mistake with Buric as a goalkeeper and yesterday without Robak in starting 11.
Lechia will be without Haraslin and Janicki and those are important missings but still I expect that they will be a very hard opponent to Lech who will be surely psychically damaged. I am on x2 here with a valuable odd 1,95 but just a small stake.

As @AgainstModernFootball wrote Legia needs 6 points in 3 games to become a Champion but key is in Bialystok. Actually I can image that in last round Lech won't find for champion anymore and will give 3 points to Jagiellonia if they still could chance to dethrone Legia. That's why Legia absolutely cannot lose in Bialystok. Odd 1,28 for x2 is good for some combo but I would wait for a full offer of bookies because I expect there a lot of cards, with possibly red.

Plock- Zaglebie - not much to add, 100% agree that should be a goal fest here as both teams finished season. Odd 2,00 for over 2,5 will dropp soon. EDIT: I would rather reccomend BTS @1,85 because simply I cannot image that any team can win 3:0 here.

Wisla- Pogon - I would be carefull here because Wisla played last time against Korona for HT/FT 2/1 which is always suspicious and I won't be surprised if the same scenario will happen here. Pogon doesn't look like a team anymore, when they wanted then they played a good football and won 3 games in a row that's why they are in top8. Defence looks absolutely horrible and yesterday Fojut got injury (he used to be a really great defender but these season is doing many mistakes but still is level above rest). I see that bookies pays around 1,90 for Wisla to score over 1,5 and I see it as a great value. If Gutkovskis did many problems to Rudol then surely Ondrasek will also...

AgainstModernFootball wrote that there is no value in Cracovia to win. But I see odd 1,70 and in my opinion it is acceptable. Cracovia is in must win situation- it is the easiest game which left for them. Then they will play away in Slask and last game against Piast so also against endangered teams. Next round Arka plays vs Ruch and Leczna vs Zaglebie at home so both clubs have easier job so if Cracovia will have 2 draws they could be in a big troubles especially that in case if they will have the same points as Arka and Slask (or both) then they will be behind them. So it is must win game especially that I guess that in Chorzow most of players are with thoughts outside Chorzow and trying to look for a next club.

I do not know how you can imagine a suspected match yesterday in Kielce if you followed a very well-played Korona market, but then Wisla played the game close to the match, maybe because he did not play Palanca? But I do not think under there was anything, extra championship very clean, I wanted to remember that Ondrasek Saturday does not play because it is disqualified

Then the Wisla wins I agree, I too, in the house are very strong but below there is something illegal I exclude him
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Odds on Legia from 2.30 to 1.97 in 22 hours...
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6 points in 3 matches give Legia next championship
7 not 6
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7 not 6
mathematically 7, logically and accodring to previous seasons 6 will be enough.

Jagiellonia - Legia 2
and for example Lech - Lechia X ...and Korona - Legia 2 ... 6 points giving Legia championship.
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15 min in Cracow 2-0 for Cracovia. Ruch is a joke. Medicore defence.

36 round: Arka Gdynia - Ruch
37 round: Ruch - Leczna

who will not win against Ruch will be also relegated.
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Wisla - Zaglebie over 2.5 goals 1.84 3/10

Wisla - Zaglebie 1-2
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I have some observations regarding Your posts. I was away for the weekend so I couldn't make them earlier.

1. There was no HT/FT fix in Korona - Wisla. In fact, Wisla were robbed by referee. I don't remember his name, but he is young, unexperienced and what is important his father is a important figure in local ZPN. So probably he wasn't ready to whistle in Ekstraklasa, it was his hmmm 4th game? Three major mistakes against Wisla (offensive foul during goal, ghost-penalty, harsh red card).

2. You were right with over in Plock but I would be careful with looking for goals when teams don't have high motivation to play. Especially in relegation group. Some reserve players may get their chances, Pogon yesterday played with many younsters. I saw Cracovia - Ruch, I also watched the second half in Gliwice. In both games players made many errors in offense, inaccurate pass, problems with controlling the ball. The level is very low.

3. Don't write about many cards and penalties unless You know the referee. I saw opinions here that Legia - Lech would also contain a lot of fight and fouls but before the game the ref's statistics were shown and in 30 games he only had 5 penalties and 2 red cards. As a matter of fact, he should have given one penalty for each team and could have sent off Radovic (although second yellow card would be harsh and he was right not do give it).

4. Legia @2.30 were brilliant. If You found odds above 2.00 take it. I think it will be much easier game than game against Lech supposed to be. Lech around 1.90 is not worthy at all.
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Thanks for your opinions,
1. You wrote:
There was no HT/FT fix in Korona - Wisla and then added: Three major mistakes against Wisla
- I know that naturally it wasn't fixed game anyway it looked like a strange game.
2. Yes, maybe I don't know the exact stats but if I remember correctly then one year ago and two years also teams who were already on holidays preferred a 'happy football'- nothing complicated, supporters who come for stadium for kind of 'friendly game' should see a goals. In my opinion it is obvious that is easier to catch overs in those kind of games.
3. I have just wrote that I expect many cards (nobody used the word 'penalty here') and comparsion shouldn't take place here because this is game which probably will decide about championship. So there must be fight. About referee: Frankowski average shows almost 5 cards per game so kind a lot. However I cannot find a bet on cards. But I expect 7 at least.
4. In which bookie did you catch 2,3 odd ? I was also following these game since the odds started to appear and have checked oddsportal/oddschecker and bookies set the highest 2,16 (marathonbet). Now we have around 2,00 and is fine.

Anyway I still hold my opinion that Lech x2 and Legia win are the most possible outcomes here.

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Well, playing for nothing is a soft type of argument I don't like. One will say "they don't have a motivation to play, they won't give 100% of themselves"while the other will favor Your option with no pressure, happy football. The same goes to using reserve players: weaker attackers sothey will score less, but also weaker defender so easier job for opponent.

I took the odds from Teo's post. But as I look now there is a strange increase on Legia (around 2.20). I don't know why, the squad is strong, this time Hamalainen plays instead of Nagy but it shouldn't make a difference. Juicy odds for me.
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Lech - Lechia 0-0.

What a **** match. Perfect result for Legia. as I wrote before this round ... 6 points in 3 matches giving Legia championship.

We will see what happen in Bialystok now...

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Legia's odds rise again @ 2.28..why?
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Legia's odds rise again @ 2.28..why?
Who knows?
Maybe beacuse Jagiellonia prefer to play rugby/mma not football.
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boring match until now..no grande chances
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Yes, as you see... Jagiellonia want to play rugby or mma not football. Also Legia with Radovic who is totally out of form.

Necid and Nagy in, Hama and Radovic out
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Nice to see that Legia showed to Lech theirs place (I am not fan of Legia). All like expected and as I wrote: Legia found the best shape when they needed.
People in Poznan were so excited about Bjelica and it is true that Lech was merciless against weak opponents but still two facts:
a) Lech against top 3 (Legia,Jagiellonia,Lechia) had just 3 points in 7 games.
b) Lech lost two finals by stupid coach decision (I know it is just my opinion but I believe it decided)- against Arka mistake with Buric as a goalkeeper and yesterday without Robak in starting 11.
Lechia will be without Haraslin and Janicki and those are important missings but still I expect that they will be a very hard opponent to Lech who will be surely psychically damaged. I am on x2 here with a valuable odd 1,95 but just a small stake.

As @AgainstModernFootball wrote Legia needs 6 points in 3 games to become a Champion but key is in Bialystok. Actually I can image that in last round Lech won't find for champion anymore and will give 3 points to Jagiellonia if they still could chance to dethrone Legia. That's why Legia absolutely cannot lose in Bialystok. Odd 1,28 for x2 is good for some combo but I would wait for a full offer of bookies because I expect there a lot of cards, with possibly red.

Plock- Zaglebie - not much to add, 100% agree that should be a goal fest here as both teams finished season. Odd 2,00 for over 2,5 will dropp soon. EDIT: I would rather reccomend BTS @1,85 because simply I cannot image that any team can win 3:0 here.

Wisla- Pogon - I would be carefull here because Wisla played last time against Korona for HT/FT 2/1 which is always suspicious and I won't be surprised if the same scenario will happen here. Pogon doesn't look like a team anymore, when they wanted then they played a good football and won 3 games in a row that's why they are in top8. Defence looks absolutely horrible and yesterday Fojut got injury (he used to be a really great defender but these season is doing many mistakes but still is level above rest). I see that bookies pays around 1,90 for Wisla to score over 1,5 and I see it as a great value. If Gutkovskis did many problems to Rudol then surely Ondrasek will also...

AgainstModernFootball wrote that there is no value in Cracovia to win. But I see odd 1,70 and in my opinion it is acceptable. Cracovia is in must win situation- it is the easiest game which left for them. Then they will play away in Slask and last game against Piast so also against endangered teams. Next round Arka plays vs Ruch and Leczna vs Zaglebie at home so both clubs have easier job so if Cracovia will have 2 draws they could be in a big troubles especially that in case if they will have the same points as Arka and Slask (or both) then they will be behind them. So it is must win game especially that I guess that in Chorzow most of players are with thoughts outside Chorzow and trying to look for a next club.
Full bank Last 2 rounds should be very predictable... Waiting for odds but don't expect more then 1,5 for top 4 all to win.
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top 4 all to win.
Very shocking. #not.

Keep this forum (or only Ekstraklasa topics) away from pokemons.
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Very shocking. #not.

Keep this forum (or only Ekstraklasa topics) away from pokemons.
I won't be on all top4 to win. But I also won't bet 1x or x2 and lose all 4 with stake 3/10
It is really funny to see that some people treat this part like a private farm.

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Where Im lose "all 4 1X or X2 with stake 3/10"?
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Where Im lose "all 4 1X or X2 with stake 3/10"?
Last round was like these but don't worry there were many surprises. Similar with lower division bets. No offence mate, keep posting your opinions.
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"Mate" if you will have so many tips as me and others you will can teach me.

Polish Ekstraklasa is one of most strongest topic here. And this is not share Sorry.

Last round ? "Mate" so many rounds I have so much great tips so wrong shot.

Have a nice week. Good luck.

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"Mate" if you will have so many tips as me and others you will can teach me.

Polish Ekstraklasa is one of most strongest topic here. And this is not share Sorry.

Last round ? "Mate" so many rounds I have so much great tips so wrong shot.

Have a nice week. Good luck.
Okey if you prefer I could call you 'sir'.
Anyway I've been here for over 7 years so sorry but you should understand it because I guess you were under other nickname also .
Absolutely true, these league must be covered as much as possible and these days we have also chance to play lower leagues where are many occasions also. I don't critize your style, if you prefer to bet lower odds but I rather prefer bigger odds.
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I don't critize your style, if you prefer to bet lower odds but I rather prefer bigger odds.
Again you confirm that you are dont know who I am and what odds I bet here many many many times.

Dont answer, dont wast our time.
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Again you confirm that you are dont know who I am and what odds I bet here many many many times.

Dont answer, dont wast our time.
One more time: this not your private farm so don't behave like a jealous child. Me and other people also share here opinions and as you could see most of bets are correct.
Check my picks and tell me that I am wasting somebody's time. I am sharing bets to many people just because I am using others advices also.
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Old 22-05-17, 18:56   #28
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Wisla 1X 1.26 6/10

Lech 1X 1.20 5/10
Over 2.5 goals 1.84 3/10
Legia X2 1.32 6/10
Legia 2 2.30 3/10

Wisla - Zaglebie over 2.5 goals 1.84 3/10
Termalica - Korona X2 1.49 5/10
Korona 2 2.90 2/10

Wisla Plock- Zaglebie 1-2
Wisla Krakow - Pogon 4-0
Lech - Lechia 0-0

Lech - Lechia 0-0 (over 2.5)
Jagiellonia - Legia 0-0
Jagiellonia - Legia 0-0 (Legia away win)
Termalica - Korona 0-2
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lel what a poor team Termalica, Targu Mures would sweep the floor with them
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Termalica in current form for sure will have big problem with avoid relegation. They get to top8 and its was end of the season for them. I wrote many times about that.

Similiar like Pogon all season with Ekstraklasa37 and Rch one year ago. Always there is 2-3 teams who only want to be in top8 and thats all.
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