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Old 28-01-18, 17:40   #1
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Default POD 2018 - RULES

As I already announced inside "Your POD thoughts" thread, we will try new rules from February POD on. They will be easy and the only aim is to eliminated so many draw, handicap and other bets that are ruining the competition.
If new rules will show positive influence on the competition, we will agree about implementing them for the future months, too.

Here they are, the short version will be posted in every POD thread from 1st of February, too.


The Competition

The competition has the purpose to gather the best bets of a certain day. It's for fun, but the competition can also be a good place for tipsters to find picks quicker than browsing all pages. You can place your Pick of the day and score points if it satisfies the conditions that are stated below. The competition lasts one month and in that period, a contestant must give exactly 10 picks. YOU CAN ENTER THE COMPETITION UNTIL IT IS POSSIBLE TO PICK TEN POD-s. It means, entering competition after only 9 days of the month left, is not possible. Every missing pick till 10 at the end of the month will be punished with -100 points per missing pick.
You must be a registered user of this forum to participate. You must have a unique IP address, not more than one competitor can use the same address.
Odds must be between 1.75 and 2.25 and only odds taken from these 3 bookmakers are allowed:

Bet365
Pinnacle
SBOBet


You must write arguments for your pick or at least a give a link to a prediction on BA main page, written by yourself.
About the conditions

Anyone is free to open the new thread if we haven't posted the first message after 22.00cet (or GMT +1). But if you do so, you must add the sponsor's banner and text at the bottom of the message, plus short version of rules. You can copy the code by pressing the quote-button on earlier Pick of the day-threads or simply drag the mouse over sponsor text selecting it, then copy and paste it in the new POD thread's starting post. Eventual mistakes in the starting post will be corrected by the mods.

You can only give one pick per day. Your pick must be different to all other placed picks, but you can back another team/player in the same game as someone else has taken. For your pick to count, it must be posted at least 1 hour before the event starts.

You cannot back the same team/player as someone else even if you take a different bet type (for example handicap bet, different game total etc.) . Exceptions will be made only if your pick is similar to the one taken before, but only if time difference between the picks is not bigger than 10-15 minutes.

You can take only this bet types :

-Asian handicap bets
-Over/Under bets (Game total) !


Specials for team sports (first half bets,first quarter, more goals in first half, anytime scorer,goal scored between 10-15 minute etc. etc), and halftime/fulltime bets are forbidden. These rules apply also for Tennis, Boxing, Snooker, Darts, although they are individual sports.

You can choose the games/events from the bookmakers listed above, but they must start before 10.00 CET the next day.
Events that start between 00:00 CET and 10:00 CET belong in the previous day's thread. Things to be clear, the events starting exactly at 10.00cet, do not belong to the previous POD day thread.
About Tennis picks starting time: every Tennis match has scheduled starting time at the bookies and that will be taken as valid starting time in POD. Matches that are scheduled to start prior 10.00cet and do started after 10.00cet will be counted as they started before 10.00cet. Unfinished Tennis matches will be settled as pending until they are finished or cancelled completly and then will be marked accordingly.

You must write the correct bookie and correct odds in the time of your posting.

If moderators of the competition need a proof about the correctness of the bookie and the odds, have right to ask it from the competitor that posted the pick.
A pick without comments will not be regarded as a valid pick. You must write why you have chosen the pick or at least give a link to your own prediction at Bettingadvice. Write your preview with your own words, copy/paste from other members or external sites is strongly forbiden, unless its obvious it is your writing there as well. It's not enough to write "Team A is much stronger, they will crush team B" or analysis based only on statistics. Have in mind that the purpose of the forum is to help other tipsters find good picks. Write sport,league or livescore link if you think it's necessary. Post your pick at least an hour before the game starts. When the game has finished, moderators will add the final result in your post.
You can not edit your posts in POD. If somehow you have forgot an important thing to write, like Odds, Bookie, Statistics or you have some errors that are important to be corrected, post a second post on time in the same thread with the correction in it.
YOU SHOULD ALSO ADD NUMBER OF PICKS MADE SO FAR AND SCORE TO EVERY POD MADE.
It should look like: (Pick #x, score: +xxx x/x).
Everyone knows his own statistics and should write it, regardless if his results of the previous days are marked or not.
If you have time, its a good thing you copy your pick/preview to the corresponding BA subforum, for the pick to be discussed further.

Scoring

A pick that was wrong will cost you 100 points. When you've made a correct pick, and it satisfied the conditions, you will gain 100(Odds-1) points. For example, a successful pick @ 1.85 will give you 85 points. This is the net profit if you had staked 100 units. Asian Handicaps will be calculated accoringly to the net profit. It is not allowed to pick odds below 1,75 and above 2.25. This is to allow the picks to have the maximum possible value!
The contestant that scores the highest number of points with 10 picks, will win the monthly competition. In case he fails to give 10 picks/month 100p-for every missing pick- will be deducted from his score.
To win June/July POD you MUST make 15 bets ! World Cup picks not allowed in June/July POD, we have a special competition for WC.Hopefully we will have time to update the standings everyday, but there may be some delays from time to time.

Cancelled Bets

Regardless of every bookies policy in order for a bet to stand, the game (whatever sport) must end normally. If (for any reason) it is suspended then any picks on this game will be considered as VOID!
The exception will only be made if the POD competitor has "days trouble", or has no spare days for another POD pick and its not his fault (pick taken before postponement) that the event didn't started or finished. This way, the pick will counts as 0 in the statistics.

The prize

The winner(s) will recieve money prize. We will personally contact the winner as soon as the round has finished.


Disputes

The organisation reserves the right to exclude picks and contestants from the competition, when they feel it is necessary. Don't forget this competition is for fun in the first place, and honesty is the best policy. If you have questions, suggestions or comments about the competition or the standings, send a private message to one of the moderators .

No fighting over stolen picks or any other reason should take place in the competition. Those who have problems with other members should P.M. any of the moderators in order to solve the problem. FIGHTING IS PROHIBITED.

Good luck to all!!!!!
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Really like the new rules, especially about the bookmakers because I have continuously seen tipsters during all these years posting dropped odds from shitty bookmakers which have very low limits, limit their users fast if betting in these kind of matches, and no serious bettor uses them. For instance I have seen the current winner of this month's POD posting a female volley match from Sportingbet or whatever, which is 0.2-0.3 decimals odd points above the market. And it makes the following almost impossible because of not finding value in the odds offered somewhere else in serious bookmakers.
The new rules for the odds and bookmakers push everyone to post odds from the biggest markets online, the asian markets with high limits and great odd offer. Also Bet365 is the most respectable Euro bookie, and it's a acceptable choice on the list.
So if someone wants to show their skills to beat the bookies, he will have to try with the bests!
I am willing to participate next month after some months of absence in the forum and in the competition too.
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Odds must be between 1.75 and 2.25
What exactly does this mean, that if somebody posts odds 2.30 the pick will be voided (or 1.70)? Or it means that those kind of odds can be posted but only +75 or +125 will be counted in your profit?
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What exactly does this mean, that if somebody posts odds 2.30 the pick will be voided (or 1.70)? Or it means that those kind of odds can be posted but only +75 or +125 will be counted in your profit?
I want to get rid of picks that have odds @3 or @4 and people are still using them although they only get points for 2,80. It means that all the value has gone.
That is why I would not allow picks with higher odds, the same as not for lower odds.
But everything is negotiable... until Wednesday evening
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I want to get rid of picks that have odds @3 or @4 and people are still using them although they only get points for 2,80. It means that all the value has gone.
That is why I would not allow picks with higher odds, the same as not for lower odds.
But everything is negotiable... until Wednesday evening
That is exactly why I'm asking this, because I know that if we stick by the old rules people will still push for 2.50, 2.80, 3.00 + etc. to get value picks, no matter the rules and only getting +125 from it, they'll still do it.

So I would agree with you by setting it mandatory/obligatory to place no lower than 1.75 and no higher than 2.25 or else the pick is VOIDED, I think that will force them to play only quality stuff and avoid that old problem from old ruleset.
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If over 2.5 is 2.30, simply take over 2.25 or over 2.0 etc. and if odds go from 2.20 to 2.30 in a close time of posting without a POD player noticing this before posting, that is always traceable on oddsportal and it can be allowed if only few minutes have passedsince the odd drop and time of posting the post, just like in old rules.

I will check some odds from players in the next month to see that no one is avoiding these rules. But small time difference should be allowed for the odd drop scenario, same like 10-15 minutes if two people post the same pick, if you know what I mean.
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Nice we agree on this.
And yes I wanted to add link to odds portal on every thread so that people can use it.
Will do that for the 1st of Feb.
Thread is already prepared.
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Is it a bit harsh to allow only three types of bets?
Why only Asian and not European handicaps as is "virtually" almost same bets?
Personally I be happy to see in basketball players under/over limit as nobody will play ML on basketball. I think that many good predictions is ruled out if only three types is playble.
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February is a pilot month, we will see at the end how it is accepted. It is not tough to make changes for March if that is needed but for sure European handicaps wont be allowed.
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I mean if you will try to find EH -1,5 for @2,25 you will easily be able to find A -1,25 for same odds or a bit lower so you can take that, no problem.
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why 1.75 limit? this is a bit shitty, most of the overs are priced at 1.65
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why 1.75 limit? this is a bit shitty, most of the overs are priced at 1.65
Not true, on main lines odds for overs in asians are always between 1,80 and 2,10...
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Not true, on main lines odds for overs in asians are always between 1,80 and 2,10...
why so big small limit? why not 1.50 or 1.60?
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why so big small limit? why not 1.50 or 1.60?
The goal is to give real picks, those that pro`s (which we are not, but try to be) are using when betting on singles.
But as I said, we can change things for the next month, we will see how this month goes. First day is pretty succesfull, more winning picks than usual!
That is the goal!
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next month we should change the limit. from 1.50 to 2.50 in my opinion. many good overs have a bit over 1.60. on the other hand you dont even need to choose to between 1.75-2.25, right? we only need inferior limit. for instance you can bet 3.00 but you still get 2.25
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next month we should change the limit. from 1.50 to 2.50 in my opinion. many good overs have a bit over 1.60. on the other hand you dont even need to choose to between 1.75-2.25, right? we only need inferior limit. for instance you can bet 3.00 but you still get 2.25
The whole point is to eliminate bets with odds 3,00 because people were only betting on crazy handicaps and overs. They were abuzing this with risky bets and noone was trying to find value. The % of winning picks is already higher if you check yesterdays thread.
The point is we need to find value bets on normal asian handicaps at normal odds and stop people betting crazy gambling picks.
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you would still eliminate it if you allow them to take over 2.25 but the limit still to be 2.25. like it was...

plus the inferior limit should be at 1.50 or 1.60, it is their right plus some are playing big money or combos

but this would be next month

1.50-2.25 and you can take even 15.00 if you want, but only 2.25 would be counted. it would still limit them to play like crazy
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you would still eliminate it if you allow them to take over 2.25 but the limit still to be 2.25. like it was...

plus the inferior limit should be at 1.50 or 1.60, it is their right plus some are playing big money or combos

but this would be next month

1.50-2.25 and you can take even 15.00 if you want, but only 2.25 would be counted. it would still limit them to play like crazy
Mate, I dont want people to post picks at odds @15 here, that is not the place for that. What message would people get if I would award someone with 125 points for odds 15? Crazy!
It is a POD and they should post what they usually bet on, asian handicaps main lines.
As said, we will see at the end of the competition, we will decide then.
But so far the change prooves to be the right decision, picks are serious and more than 50% win which was not the case during previous months.
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Mac, nobody is crazy to take 15. but for instance if he wants to take 2.25 and he cannot find just 2.30 (or 2.40 or whatever)... he would skip a good bet! logically they would bet as close as 2.25. plus, the options are limited now with only 3 bookies allowed.
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Mac, nobody is crazy to take 15. but for instance if he wants to take 2.25 and he cannot find just 2.30 (or 2.40 or whatever)... he would skip a good bet! logically they would bet as close as 2.25. plus, the options are limited now with only 3 bookies allowed.
Now you are wrong about that, it is really simple. If odds for over 2,5 goals @2,30 then just take over 2,25 @2,00.
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Stop spamming, nesquik. Rules are perfect right now. You can actually read and follow picks because only quality picks are posted. Just open some of the old threads and spot the difference. Do not change these rules, best regards.
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Stop spamming, nesquik. Rules are perfect right now. You can actually read and follow picks because only quality picks are posted. Just open some of the old threads and spot the difference. Do not change these rules, best regards.
you were 0-2 in January and 0-4 in December at some moment... I wait your quality spamming!
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you were 0-2 in January and 0-4 in December at some moment... I wait your quality spamming!
I'm not talking about myself, obviously I know that I'm not very good at this but that's not the topic. I'm actually talking about other people that I follow and that are very good but post worse bets with older rules. Take Mindozas for exampe, be posted over 3.0 for 2.00 but with old rules he would post over 4.5 for sure, just like so many times before. And this takes away from a quality tipster. These are facts and you can deny them all you want, but you're wrong. By the way, for that jab originally towards me, yes I am very bad at this (and this is why I like new rules so the people that I follow with my own money and invest in them post serious picks, not over 4.5 for 3.00 but safer bets with normal lines and odds like 2.00 e.g. Mindozas) but at least I'm not attacking moderators and spamming the forum like a little kid that lost his toy for "stealing my money" because I was unable to follow simple rules. So yeah, I'd rather be a loser on my own than be pathetic like that, no hard feelings.
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One of the reasons why I'm back here again posting previews are the new rules. I saw comments about the lowest and the highest odds, they could've been somewhere between 1.70-2.40, but the rules are OK and we shouldn't complain much. This is just my point of view.

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Not a big participator in the POD but I like the new rules. There is only one thing that I would like to improve is the number of picks per month. Instead of 10 pick per month, I would say 1 pick per day max.
With the opportunity for people to be able to send picks at least once a day you as tipster can train how to control and manage your picks till the end of the month, make profit and win rewards. Also people who follow this competition can spot and identify quality tipsters.

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This is a big b*t to void my pick because my odds was 2.35, you can simply can takes the max for POD (2.25) and the good pick to stay. This is a bad treat for sure...
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Rules for March will stay the same as for February.
GL all!
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I think that we should add at least one or two bookies like Unibet or WHill?
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I think that we should add at least one or two bookies like Unibet or WHill?
Notice that super moderator Macot is checking all the picks and validity of odds , let's not make his job harder than already is. Right?
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Notice that super moderator Macot is checking all the picks and validity of odds , let's not make his job harder than already is. Right?
Also competitors should do that job too, playing fair, posting fair odds in the time of posting and posting picks on time. So i don't see any bigger difference in adding one additional bookie.
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