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Old 08-09-17, 19:00   #1
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cheers some toughts ...




1300
Real - 2.75 1.85 10u / [-4] 2 4 5u / over 4.25 2 2 8u / over (5) 2.8 6u
play at miday in september risky due to heat yet tomorrow it will be mild hence we could see high tempo despite fifa , host come from draw so should enter pitch om a frame .. some players did not play last midweek game like marcelo casemiro or carvajal ...others like isco and asensio only train match ... last two are a great boost for team in terms of confidence ....earning galons ..modric shall be rested .. kross perhaps .. apoelis not big deal on paper game in 3 days ..benzema and bale should be on vindicative mood .. all in all despite real never looking in control and levante showing to be a good team first two round there is huge gap in class .. in al lines ..morales out is big minus for granotas ... but still have flair to at least score one ... looked good going forwars even tough muñiz is tactical coach that buils strong defenses .. mild stakes couse odds are crap probaby overinflated ..
CS 4-1

1615
Valencia +.25 2 2 11u / under ht 1 1.8 6u / under 1.75 8u / 1/1 @ 6 7u / -1 8 4u
well this odds may be wrong .. this valencia looks like meaning serious bussiness under marcelino ..managed to built team from defense and so far is paying ...
have soem soft spots like both side defenders specially montoya a guy that looks quite lost at defending or gaya that has always been dodgy in that part .. perhaps they need more sure things upfront .. not a proven nine .. but overall have improved all lines sp trunk with some proven defenders and kondogbia an all out great on aerial game ... for this game soem new signs with great potential like pereira and guedes shall have soem minutes ...
best part of pick is atletico situation ... of course no need mention under simeone complacency is never a factor but soem games may just be in teh middle of smthg and they have two cracking games ahead ... roma who shall be contenders to qaulify next r at cl and malaga at new pitch metrolpolitano at madrid outskirts ... along that griezmann is still out and we know he & his goals has been key last season ... of c u got correa building some conf or gameiro 6 torers yet frenchie is key at such hard pitch ... above all manty players like 4 defenders plus carrasco and partey had tough qualifiers and we shall see what their fitness level is like ... all this playing at near 30 celsius under humedity ... one thing im sure of its atletico will not face joke display like las palmas last game where they left atletico players finish game in 5 ... host have hardly any international ...
CS 1-1

1830
Eibar +1 1.82 11u / (0) 4.5 7u / wg dg 5u / over 2.75 2 1.93 8u / o 3.75 @ 3 3u
armeros could get smthg from pizjuan as host are still building phase tough a good coach like berizzo still showed hell be putting all pieces togueter rather sooner than later they have huge game wednesday at anfield and some players were left out of call ... sp argies coming fom clasificatorios ...
still seviglia has huge squad .. wider and better than last season imo even losing vitolo .. kept key unit nzonzi ..and signed lots f flair .. but in front eibar is no joke likewise they are probably stronger than last seaon and we know they ask questions all match long ..
guets with similar line up as last two ..only miss jordan watch out for ace youngster ivi .. this gusy usally fish well in segunda like with ribera keko or peña .. and they did it again .. open one this could be ...
CS 1-2

Barsa -2 1.82 10.5u / wg 7u / (-3) @ 3.2 6u / over (4) @ 2.5 6u
on first toughts my lean was on espanyol keepng it tight and givin a scare to cules ..but on 2ns ones its hard to get such good line for barsa at CN and it seems suarez is fit wich alongside pehaps dembele sttart shall see aline up quite strong comamnded by genious messi ...
locasl seem haveing full squad minus rafinha and turan who are not starters .. above all main sign this season is valverde very smart coach wich opsite to flores is allready wining by 1 ... espanyol keeps shwoing start of this one sam eflat game ..just ok positioning but waiting things to hapens do not prompt them ...
quique one of those fraud coaches ex big profile players with huge cv due to conextions and couse some ex second in charge like escribe helped through the process ... espanyol has honestlyquite good squad sp upfront with baptistao piatti gerard and class act garcia ... and shall be hugely motivated not just as usual
but even more due to political situation ...guest with full squad minus right def lopez and hernan .. sanchez who is not per see defender shall play in right .. diop and fuego will likely start in rock midfiled ... CS 4-1

All in all host shall win probably with goals in both ends couse pericos have some units very fast & sharp with spaces ahead .. guest will try their usual wait back ..that usually does not work vs barsa and with valverde on helm hes have plan b ,c & d ...


1200
Real (0) 1.85 10u / over 2.25 1.78 10u / o 3.5 3.45 5u / wg 4u /
Txuri urdin started season as finished last one in style like most primera sides tehy are wealthier and do not dismantle every year .. kept trunk ..only lost yuri ...
we know blue-whites always play open and for it face depor who trashed them last time at riazor in a day off so guest shall be wary and motivated .. .
depor improved their squad with prodigal son lucas ... but under mel they are always quite dodgy defending yet good going forward .. so game with goals in both ends is expected .

1615
Athletic -.75 1.95 10.7u / 1/1 2.6 8u / wg 4u / (-2) 5.3 5u
mighty lions gggrrroooarrgg .. face newcomers girona in a highlyyy anticiapapapatttttttttEEEEEEEEDDDDDDD encounterrRRRRRR .... and we believe host shall dispose of gerundenses easy or hard .... girona at segunda was always a home team .. suffered usually on road till last season an in such aplace theyll feel the diference and wil likely be down earthed after 2 great first rounds ..... host have some important players on hold like aduritz and kep a.. but honestly they are mora than just aduritz upfront right now with muniain in good shape and ziganda promoting some units he knows from reserve ... above all williams is fit and raul can play the aduritz rol ...



1830
alaves +1 1.7 11.2u / (0) 4 8u / over 2.25 1.8 9.3u / over 3.5 3.8 5u / wg 4u
glorioso travels to vigo in what could be open one .. guest assmbled a cracking squad by all means ... perhaps too young but potentially many big young guns
like pedraza and sobrino .. medran or romero ..alongside some certainties like wakaso or pina and eli ... in front celta having doubts after influential coach left .. they still have same squad even beter with new adquisitions mor & maxi .. flairish latter ... but imo their defenders - sp side defenders- and keeper are blunderish ..and lack of conf may pull them further down ..
both ball possesion based coaches ..goals expected .. probably cards couse celestes may feel its payback time after last season cup affair ...

2045
Betis +.75 1.8 10u
similar to celta game .. beti sassmbled quite strong squad and reuptation from their coach a dogdy one ..not bulding teams may be in doiubt after watching las palmas this season with the same joke act .. blame should probably be on canary lazy players .......
host with two painfull injuries on their keepers and some inf units out like bruno have phony feelings this start tough look eager to start ading .. no sign team news .. imo ...





1600
huesca -.75 1.95 10.8u / over 2.25 1.82 9u / wg 8u / over 3.5 3,9 6u //
host huge squad very ambitius ..offenisive coach started ok in front sevilla b ..lost of flair on ranks ..but as usual mild defending by young fellas ...
CS 2-1

1800
barsa b -.25 2.15 10u / over 2.25 1.62 10u / over (3) 2.4 8u / over (4) 4.85 5u / -1 4.7 6u / -2 10 2u / wg 7u /
goals on vards this is be4 big derby so people expected ... host have huge youngsters on ranks like galarreta , aleña or cardona ...
recover units like choco lozano upfront and has soem new adquisitions like two ex celta youngsters that can help in defense still theyll leave gaps and cordoba has better squad than last season and prefers counters game ...
CS 4-2

Sporting -.25 1.65 10u / 1/1 2.9 4u / under ht 1 1.8 7u / under 2.25 2 8u / 0-0 2u
asturian derby ... this is a top 5 hot in spain pro football .. only seviglia and madrid ahead ... basque one ... usually very tight ..lots of barking and probably this one more after 15 years .. host have upper hand in terms of feelings .. but guest as last 2 seasons have assambled a top squad aiming high .. yet sporting with signs and keeping many players is fav n1 to promote ..
h2h favous as well couse oviedo has better numbers in 1ª and sporting in 2ª .. both full squad ..both with very exp and known coaches that can build sides...
CS 1-0

2030
Almeria -.75 2.1 10u
host assambled a squad with lots of flair aiming high while lorca sure will not be easy rival but at similar pitch vs similar rival succumbed vs huesca ...
CS 2-0

sun
1300
Tenerife -.25 1.8 11u / 1/1 3.2 6u / -1 4 4u / wg 5u / over 2 1.88 7u
host look too strong with same coach and midfield as last season ...lost some imp units to getafe still signed well .... in front granada with one of strongest squads
and good coach but needs tiem assamble ..in 2ª its hard at first for such a side ..both coaches undersih but tete looks like going down to bussiness vut crap want to fly asap ... CS 3-1

1600
Alcorcon +.75 1.7 11u / under .75 2 ht 8u / under 2 @ 2 8u / (0) 3.2 6u / 0-0 2u
yellow fever from madrid not easy rival kept 3 cs vs 2 promotion candidates and alba ... same coach that finished last season in style ..rated one ..in front zaragoza a team and city with galons that often gets some help ... started well .. but results may flatter .. signed verty tactical coach from reus .. not many chances/goals expected .. both with almost best available ...CS 0-1

1800
Valladolid (0) 2.15 10.5u / over 2.25 2 2 9.3u / over 3.5 6u / wg 4u / 272 3u / -1 2u /
pucela can use galoons and probably strongest squad to dispose of cultural in a regional derby .... results flatter leoneses with two fancy coem backs vs not the strongest opistion .. guest just disposed tricky tete .. both offensive coaches that go for it from minute one .. imo guest have bigger players and are more stablished .. CS 1-3

2000
Albacete -.25 2.2 10u
host may use cup good feelings despite losing to earn first win in come back to top flight .. alba has assambled quite ok squad and has galons ..
while guest are stil missing joselu goals and are not great travellers usually ..
both with almost best available...
CS 2-1
2030
rayo -.25 1.82 10u / over 2.25 1.95 9u / 1/1 4u / wg 5u / over 3.5 5u / -1 2u
both with bigger name than what they show on pitch fact is rayo has many primer aplayers on ranks while osasuna signed soem big segunda guns but they are not clicking yet ... both leak goals i see host with upper hand tough .. no sign team news...
CS 3-1


I
1800
Coruxo -.25 1.78 10u / over 2.25 1.78 9u /
II
1600
Vitoria +1 1.75 11u / (0) 4.2 8u 7 over (2) 1.72 8u / wg 6u / 2/2 3u / -1 2u / o 3.5 3u
1700
Caudal +.25 1.95 10.8u
1800
arenas (0) 1.9 10.2u / over (2) 1.91 9.9u / 1/1 3u / wg 4u / o 3.5 3u /
barakaldo (0) 2.2 10.8u / wg & -1 4u /
gernika -.25 1.55 11.7u / (-1) 2.7 9u / 1/1 6u / -2 3u
III
1800
cornella (0) 1.9 10.2u
IV
1900
Ecija -.25 1.58 11u / over 2.25 1.82 9u / 1/1 2.9 7u / o 3.5 4 5u

sun
I
1200
atletico b (0) 1.65 10.2u / over 2.25 1.72 8u / wg 7u / o 3.5 4u
rapido X2 1.6 10.2u / wg dg 5u / g 7u
1800
cerceda X2 1.82 10u / under ht ft 7u
rayo M +.5 @ 2 10u / over (2) 2 10.2u / wg 2u / o 3.5 5u
fabril (0) 1.9 10u / g 6u
1815
guijuelo (0) 2.15 10.5u / under ht ft 7u / 0-0 1u
1900
talavera (0) 2.2 10.7u



II
1730
lealtad -.25 1.72 10.3u / under 2 1.95 8u
1800
racing -.25 1.7 11u / wg 8u / over 2.25 2.1 8u / -1 4u / 2/2 3.2 4u
UDL (0) 1.35 12u / 1/1 3.3 5u / -1 3.5 7u / wg 8u /
tudelano (0) 1.9 10u / under ht ft 8u / under 1.5 5u


III
1200
Peña +1.5 1.7 10.7u / (0) 7 4u / under ht ft 7u
baleares (0) 2.3 10.2u / over 2.25 1.9 9u / wg 6u 7 o 3.5 4u
saguntino +1.5 1.75 10u 7 over (2) 1.72 8u / (0) 7 3u
formentera d 1.8 10u 7 under ht 1 8u 7 under 2 1.92 7u / 0-0 2u
ebro (0) 2.1 10.8u / 1/1 5 3u / over (2) 2.15 7u / -1 6.8 3u
1800
olot (0) 1.6 10.2u / -1 & WG 4u
1900
sabadell -.25 2 10.2u / under 2.25 1.75 7u / 0-0 2u
elche -1.75 1.9 10.4u / over 3.5 3 6u


IV
1100
merida -.75 2.1 10.6u / 1/1 2.8 5u / -1 3.4 4u / over 2.25 1.98 9u / o 3.5 4.3 6u

1200
melilla (0) 2.1 10.3u / 1/1 5 3u / under 2 1.92 6u

1830
linense (0) 2.2 11u / 1/1 5 4u / -1 7.5 4u / wg 7u / over 2 1.8 8u
marbella -.25 1.92 10.8u 7 over 2.25 1.92 9u 7 wg 5u / 1/1 4u
1900
recre -.75 2.1 10u / over 2.25 1.92 9u / -1 5u / wg 7u / o 3.5 4u
badajoz +.75 1.7 10.5u / over 2.25 2.15 9u / wg 3u / o 3.5 3u /
Villanovense -.25 1.72 10u




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This was posted on bettingresource's free google group but I didn't get a chance to logon. There is also a tennis pick pending that starts in the next 15 minutes.

Getafe +0.5 (1.85) against Leganes
Good odds here on the newly promoted Getafe here. Getafe is not new to la laiga even though they were promoted this season because they were in La Liga in recent years and they showed good outing against much stronger opponents in the first two games so far (0-0 tie and 1-0 loss). Leganes on the other hand is enjoying the start of the season by winning both of their games with 1-0 score but it was against much weaker teams. Getafe can hold a clean sheet here if they play like the first two games and a bet on draw has some value but +0.5 is much better as they will try to score the first goal of the season and more.
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La Liga: Real Madrid v Levante, Saturday 9th September

We all know who's going to win this match. The only thing we need to look at is how to make money on it. +3.25 Asian handicap is ideal as long as Levante avoid a four-goal reverse. In addition (and this is quite surprising) only 43% of Real Madrid home matches under Zidane resulted in triumphs. Supporting the minnows is the best move here.

Asian Handicap Betting Recommendation: Levante +3.25 at 1.710

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Malaga vs Las Palmas

Any thoughts ?

Both without points yet this season & Malaga with a 5-2-0 record against Las Palmas @ Estadio La Rosaleda
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I have come across the following info: "The manager of Malaga will be having a few concerns when it comes to team selection this game-week. Full backs Federico Ricca and Miguel Torres are both out with shoulder and ankle injuries respectively and are not expected to be back before October at the very least. Joining them on the injury list is winger Keko, who is a major doubt for the match due to a calf injury; although he might make the matchday squad, provided the Medics deem him to be fit for the match." Think that Jony is a doubt.
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I have come across the following info: "The manager of Malaga will be having a few concerns when it comes to team selection this game-week. Full backs Federico Ricca and Miguel Torres are both out with shoulder and ankle injuries respectively and are not expected to be back before October at the very least. Joining them on the injury list is winger Keko, who is a major doubt for the match due to a calf injury; although he might make the matchday squad, provided the Medics deem him to be fit for the match." Think that Jony is a doubt.
Information is not really correct.

Torres is out, that's right, but Malaga has better Rosales, so no problem on the right side. On the left side only newcomer Juankar is out but Ricca is able to play. Also Keko will most probably play. Jony is out for sure. Newcomers have enough quality to score against LP.

Las Palmas misses Samper and most probably Gomez in defensive midfield, Vitolo is out as well. Without both defensive midfielders LP will be even more vulnerable in defense. LP is crap away and I would never count on them in away matches even if Malaga looks quite poor atm and need more time to integrate new players. LP new coach is weak.

Malaga has hard matches in front of their eyes (AM, Sevilla, Valencia) and therefore should win this one.
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Real Sociedad - Real Madrid 1 4.92 pin
-Real Madrid will play after Champions League game and with poor start in Laliga
-Benzema, Ronaldo, Marcelo out, 3 key players
-Real Sociedad scored 10 goals in 3 games and they are tough to beat at home
I think basque team will put a great fight and can take 3 points, odds have some value and probably will go down..
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Not really the greatest arguments to go against Real here. They should be in serious mode after Valencia game as they cant afford another wrong step so early in the season. They proved last season that they are deep, they got plenty of talent and they can afford to miss big players, its not like Barca without Messi, they actually have super quality to replace those missing.
Real does come after CL but they played really at 50% of their capacity, nothing to take out as an against argument, and also Sociedad played on EL and Real has a more rest than Sociedad.
Maybe Real is to be faded from different other reasons but imo this is not the right spot. Sociedad is good team and i do like their offensive approach, they look like suffering at the back but they can score so a beton goals here is more suitable i think as Real should be fully focused.
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well they were in serious mode vs levante and vs apoel with quite poor game ...

indeed i know where ure coming from i agree partly ... last season and even id say since ronaldo was signed whenever hes not on pitch their collective game is stronger ... wich can be used in some hard pitches ...
and last season the plan B players were great in some pitches ...but noone of those pitches is anoeta vs this real - used in female form diferento to whites real - .. bale was key in first game last season ... yet he does not look in confidence right now .. of course u have asesnsio or isco plaus modric .. but so many missings specially cristiano , kroos and marcelo shall be a handicap ...

line up should be
navas ; carvajal ramos varane/nacho theo : casemiro , modric , isco , vazquez ; asensio & bale ....

w/o kovacic and vallejo ... options on bench lower ... actually box to box kovacic would have played at this pitch 100% if fit ...

host have still iñigo and navas out but llorente is filling gap ok ... oyarzabal out so Januzaj will start .. rest usual .... specially trunk with illarra , prieto and zurututza is so hard to handle ... game vs rosemborg not a factor as they were 2 up by 10th ...

all in all value on txuri urdin ... in a game with goals ...
2045
Real Sociedad +1 1.78 11u / (0) 3.6 8u / 1/1 8 3u / wg 3u / -1 12 2u / ov 3.25 2 2 7u


1600
Getafe +2 1.76 9.99u / under 3.75 1.75 9u / under 1st 1.5 1.8 8u / +1 1st 1.67 10u
cheers .. place were barsa suffered some blows time ago .. fact is under valverde they look way better defending and positioning ..still did not face trully oposition ..
at NC most rivals just roll on .. and alaves beat themselves ... now they got suarez and dembele ..but azulones have proven this 3 games to have solid game w/o ball and have players to counter ... low stakes couse at the end cules are man with a plan and have the messiah on ranks ....

1830
Betis -.75 2.1 10.7u / over 2.25 1.7 10.2u / over (3) 2.7 8u / 1/1 2.9 6u / -1 3.3 6u / over (4) 5 4u /
highly anti ecreerrrr .. at villamarin ... were depor has good numbers but is likely to fall vs reknewed green whites .. first 11 from sevillanos is full of flairs specially going forward tinight full squad even Boudebouzmay have some minutes... in front depor also imporved squad big deal but under mel leak goals ... and he seem on a fight vs soemplayers wich may turn badly as we all know ... arribas replaces sidney who si supousedly on bad form .. both sides are better atacing than defending so goals on cards ...
2045
Atletico (-2) 2.4 11.2u / (-3) 4.8 9u / [-1] ht @ 3.6 6u / 1/1 1.75 9u /
fgeetboutit .... potato patato ...rolon rolin .. u name it .. it does not matter a team with a coach on bench 3 classes below ..under constrution trying to fill gap left by camacho , llorente and sandro ... vs a side looking quite plugged this early season ... releasing brand new metropolitano pitch ... full suqad .. NO BRAiner ... i know under some ocasions something used to go wrong for "pupas" ... but this atletico is another thing ... likely 3 up by 60th ...

Granada +1 1.72 11.8u / (0) 3.6 8u / over 2.25 1.72 9u / over (3) 2.7 6u / over (4) 6 2u / 2/2 2u 1/2 2u 2/1 2u / -1 @ 11 3u
wrong odds by all accounts .. probably both suqad in terms of quality are top 3 ... but host coachs has proven just like first games his teams always suffer to close games/gaps ... wich is huge handicap in segunda ... andalucians have some players upfront like machis and ramos ( josele) .. that´d not problems to play in primera .. so do host with guys like michel or borja on ranks
nad so much fire with mata iban "bufalo" villalibre and so on ... all in all open one with goals on cards ...not huge stakes couse 2a is underish per se and host after last game disgrace shouldbe wary ... +1 on granada a must imo ... regardless outcome .. zorrilla a good place for redwhites over years .btw

1800
Reus +.25 1.95 10u / under (2) 1.93 7u
this looks like low sc draw ... guest looking good with exp midfield contrary to host that gambled with many ex valencia youngsters huge quality but may suffer to settle in 2ª


Sevilla atl (0) 2.25 10.5u / over 2.25 1.82 10.2u / over (3) 2.9 8u / 1/1 5 6u / 1/2 28 2u / 2/1 32 2u / -1 @ 7 6u / -2 @ 15 3u / over (4) 6 4u /
reserved prognosis ..this could end in trash by locals that have huge quality on tranks and their game is not so unsolid asusual with reserves vs low confidence rayito ...
with unexp coach ... lots of flair sp upfront with trejo or dominguez etc .... i think locals will make suffer madrilians and go down further ...

2000
Almeria +.75 1.75 10.8u / over 2 1.76 9.8u / over (3) 3.5 5u / (0) 3.3 6u / wg 4u / 2/2 3u

sun


villareal (0) 1.8 10.3u / -1 @ 5 5u / 2/2 4.4 4u / wg 4u / -2 3u
host have lots of quality but many are unexperienced or just prospects wich shall not help in scuh a lack of confidence phase .. argies coach is not akinted with euro footie and it shows w/o ball contrary to villa getting back on track and usually one of most solids and best counter atacking sides ....
no need more chit chat here .. guest rotated at el so shall have half 11 with fresh legs ... host have alexis in case u think villa will not score .. hell make it hapen somehow imo ...


1200
Huesca +.25 1.95 10.8u / over 2.25 1.94 8u / wg dg 4u / o 3.5 4u
host receive too easily and results flatter them with some uncharacteristic fancee last minute outoftheblu comebacks ..guest one of best front lines and a sharp coach ... no sign team news
1600
Alcorcon -.25 1.82 11u / 1/1 3.5 5u / -1 4 6u / -2 9.5 4u / over (2) 1.62 8u
yellow fever defense could turn to be deciseive factor couse cule youngsters will likely blunder in the back ... perhaps in one of those sto domingo corner kicks ... and when host are upfront in way more open game could kil ya .. still guets with more qulaity but thel have not such easy path as in previous outings ... both with same 11 as last matches ...


I
1730
Fuenla -.75 2.05 11u / 1/1 2.8 8u / over 2 1.85 8u
2100
castilla -.75 1.9 10.7u / -1.25 2.6 8u / wg 6u / over 2.25 1.72 10u / over (3) 2.5 6u
II
1600
sanse (0) 1.9 10u / G @ 2 10.2u / wg 7u / -1 3u / o 3.5 6u
1800
gernika +1 1.75 11.5u / (0) 4.3 8u / G 2.2 8u / wgdg 4u / 2/2 3u / -1 2u

III
1800
saguntino (0) 1.8 11.2u / 1/1 4.4 8u / -1 5.5 7u / wg 6u / -2 3u
1900
peralada -.25 1.9 10u / 1/1 4u / -1 2u / under 2 2.16 6u
2000
Ebro +.75 1.65 11u 7 (0) 3.2 6u / under 2 1.92 8.6u / under 1.5 2.8 5u
2045
badalona +1 1.7 11u / (0) 4 5u / under 2.25 1.8 7u /


IV
1800
LPalmas II -.25 1.72 11u / g 9.7u / wg 8u / -1 6u / o 3.5 4u
1830
marbella +.25 2.1 10.2u / under 2.25 1.92 8u /
2030
Murcia (0) 1.7 10.6u / over (2) 2 8u / 1/1 4u / -1 4u / wg 5u
2100
EFESE -.25 1.5 10.8u / over 2 1.63 9u / over 3.5 4.6 5u


sun

I
1200
Celta B (0) 1.8 10u / G 1.8 9u / over 3.5 3 5u
Sanse -.25 1.65 10u / under 1.78 8.4u / under 1.5 4u
Rayo -.25 1.75 11u / -1 & 1/1 & wg 6u / over 2.25 1.62 8u
1700
Rapido (0) 1.75 9.99u / over (2) 1.78 10u / over 3.5 4.6 6u
1800
Toledo -1 1.85 10u / 1/1 2.4 7u / over 2.25 2.05 10u / over 3.5 4.3 6u
Navalcarnero +1 1.65 10u / under 1.7 8u
1900
ponferradina (0) 1.8 10u / over 2.25 1.9 10u / wg 4u / o 3.5 4.7 5u

II
1200
Lealtad -.25 1.7 11u /
1700
caudal (0) 1.57 10u / under 2 1.95 9u / under 1.5 2.8 6 u / 0-0 2u
1730
izarra +1 1.65 11u / over (2) 1.85 8u / (0) 4 6u
Vitoria (0) 1.8 10u / under 2 2.05 7u





III
1200
sabadell (0) 1.8 10.7u / -1 5.5 5u / X/2 7.2 3u /
Peña (+1) @ 2 11.5u / (0) 5 6u / 1X 2.8 7u / under 1.8 6u
at Baleares -.25 1.65 11.2u / -1 3.7 4u / under (2) 1.95 8u
ontinyent 1X 1.75 10u / under 1.6 8u
1800
villareal B X2 1.75 10u / under 2.25 1.75 7uu

IV
ejido +.25 @ 2 10.5u / over 2.25 1.95 9.7u / wg 8u / over 3.5 7u
1200
badajoz (0) 1.9 10u / 1/1 4.4 3u / over (2) 1.99 7u
jumilla (0) 2.1 10u / 1/1 5 3u / over (2) 1.85 8u

1800
s fernando +1.5 1.6 10u / X2 2.7 6u / under 1.75 8u*
1830
Balona -.75 1.95 11u / 1/1 2.9 7u / -1.25 2.5 8u / wg 7u / over 2.25 1.85 7u

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indeed real was not to go against .... at such ocasions they tend to deliver ...
and locals w/o ball are not the best ....

interesting midweek games .....
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Yes, time to learn finally this lesson - don't mess up with Real Madrid. It is okay to bet against them, when the handicap is -3.25 and they play vs a "small team" in an uninspiring afternoon game. But never take "win or draw" against them in such games like last night's. "But they miss two players", "but the opponent is in good form", blablabla - just forget about it. These arguments are completely irrelevant when we talk about Real Madrid.
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yeap ..well thats why they are 1 to 4 reg league titles last decade vs cules .....

still i expected more from real and at this time of season surprises hapen ...

freekin zidane is a master of disaster somehow --now he pulls the mayoral ace up the sleeve ....

oky doky ...

.just kiddin seriously last night 11 was just great ... couple of goals more would have been great .. 4 was not enough for me to cover what i putted on txuriurdin ...


as usual real wastes so many chances-oportunities when games are open ....
tahts why playing big handis ag them pay off as u say ...

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cheers miccho ..
u may as well brou put your toughts before games here ! .. ok i wont use nicks to call pipole anymore ... but it feels like talking to oneself lately this fred ..... some toughts cheese ...

Valencia -1.25 2.15 10.7u / (-1) 4 7u / 1/1 2.1 9u / over 2.25 1.63 9u / o 3.5 3.2 6u /

southerners that are some sort of a amulet side for ches could be perfect pray to show solid game by locals vs rather kaotic one from malagueños ... guest at the end managed to assamble a good squad

but michel is probably sending his cv around trying fish next sucker that hires him .... as usual too long and flat his teams ...now not even having a trunk to rely on with so many new faces .... and so many quality yet unexp youngsters ... both shall rotate ..


Eibar +3 1.7 10.4u / G @ 2 10u / (+2) 2.9 7u / (0) 22 2u / 2/2 44 1u / 2/1 24 3u /

armeros never easy they had a day off at siviglia under the southern unsuitable sun ..but last two outings at NC they scored with come back included ...and covered spread ...

cules lloking quite solid under valverde .. but tonights shall make some rotations in teh back ... wich ag eibar sound space covering and counter game may be paid ...
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cheers miccho ..
u may as well brou put your toughts before games here ! .. ok i wont use nicks to call pipole anymore ... but it feels like talking to oneself lately this fred ..... some toughts cheese ...
U're totally right, bro. I don't have particular bets in mind, which I'd take pre-game, but I follow the league, so I should at least share a few thoughts, which might be helpful if one wants to make some live bet.

Real Madrid - Betis

For me this is the typical Galactico under Zidane affair. After winning in style a hard away game, they are going to struggle at home and prolly win by a single goal. Ronaldo will be back in the squad, but as i said many times - in such games squad and missing players of Real do not matter, all that matters is motivation and focus, and normally Real is not very motivated under Zidane in these "small matches"

Betis with lots of attacking flair this season. Some nice additions in the squad, they look a lot stronger than previous years.

Betis+3AH @ 1.80 BTTS @ 1.92
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Las Palmas +1.5 AH @ 2 looks promising. Sevilla will play away at Atletico Madrid on 23.09 and after that they will have a CL game on 26.09. Las Palmas got a good late win against Athletic B on Sunday and their morale should be high. Vitolo is returning to his old club and it's unlikely that he will get a warm welcome. Remy is out for Las Palmas (he scored the winner against Bilbao). I think the visitors could get a good result and even snatch a point. Thoughts anyone?
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Las Palmas +1.5 AH @ 2 looks promising. Sevilla will play away at Atletico Madrid on 23.09 and after that they will have a CL game on 26.09. Las Palmas got a good late win against Athletic B on Sunday and their morale should be high. Vitolo is returning to his old club and it's unlikely that he will get a warm welcome. Remy is out for Las Palmas (he scored the winner against Bilbao). I think the visitors could get a good result and even snatch a point. Thoughts anyone?
There is logic in this bet. But I am worried by Las Palmas horrible defending, and especially if this guy Halilovic plays, it means one of Las Palmas flansk will be totally exposed (as this guy never tracks back).
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According to some of the websites which I use to inquire about injured players Halilovic is unjured. However I can't find any info in the Internet if he is on the 19-man squad which Berizzo assembled for tonight's game.
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Leganes should be able to win this tonight? They marked this game for the win
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According to some of the websites which I use to inquire about injured players Halilovic is unjured. However I can't find any info in the Internet if he is on the 19-man squad which Berizzo assembled for tonight's game.


Hallilovic = Las Palmas

Berizzo = Sevilla

Answer: He isn’t in Berizzo’s match squad


Hallilovic isn’t expected to be in the Las Palmas match squad, he’s injured.

I’m also worried about Las Palmas poor defending but they have enough quality upfrount to score and Sevilla will have 3 games in 6 days, starting today, then saturday at ATM and tuesday at home with Maribor for the UCL.

If there is a game where they may relax a little bit and not give it all...It may be tonight.

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According to some of the websites which I use to inquire about injured players Halilovic is unjured. However I can't find any info in the Internet if he is on the 19-man squad which Berizzo assembled for tonight's game.
No Halilovic
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Hallilovic = Las Palmas

Berizzo = Sevilla

Answer: He isn’t in Berizzo’s match squad


Hallilovic isn’t expected to be in the Las Palmas match squad, he’s injured.

I’m also worried about Las Palmas poor defending but they have enough quality upfrount to score and Sevilla will have 3 games in 6 days, starting today, then saturday at ATM and tuesday at home with Maribor for the UCL.

If there is a game where they may relax a little bit and not give it all...It may be tonight.
my bad, sorry for that!

Anyway, looks like we all agree there is value on the guests and with Halilovic out let's hope Sevilla won't hammer them like Atleti did (5:1).
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Let’s hope so...I also like that bet, let’s go.
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i have to disagree about las palmas shoot and im not just worried about their defending .. im sure if they show same traits as in games i watched them this season .. all minus malaga - then siviglia will score at least 2 probably 3 or 4 .... sevilla is not yet full gears but berizzo allready built strong side ..and they have so many options upfront ... las palmas have 6 playesr out wich limit their bench options ..and weakens their def line ....
reg betis +3 ..it could really hapen ...couse real is not like barsa ... 8 chances 6 goals .. they need many chances and are far from catalans automatisms - well if u consider passittomessian automatism at all :/ --

reg last night ... oh dera what a great game by eimpar aka eibar ...but ref usual bullsheet fraud call ... and teh little argie totally screwed them big time....

i have feeling valverde & barsa with messi really motivated will win everything there is this season ... again ...

Athletic +.25 @ 2 10.5u / over (2) 1.9 8u / 1/1 6.8 5u / -1 8.2 2u / wg 3u / o 3.5 5.25 3u
big athletics derby .. always high intensity specially late years ... simeone has upper hand only losing once since taking helm but this is a place were you do not come off focus ... wich hardly ever hapens when colchoneros are involved ... stiull even on equal conditions athletic has a chance .. they rotated big last match and shall field best 11 .. and this 11 has huge players in every line .. match winners ..starting with new young ace kepa ... losing valverde has not been such a great minus since ziganda knows all youngsters and the club inside out all he had to do is go along ... and its working ...
so we have locals with best 11 and atletico making soem small rotations in the back and amidst busy weeks .. san mames can be tricky and tough both look very solid i expect chances & goals in high tempo game as suusal in this pitch in such matches ...

Leganes -.25 1.81 9.99u / over (2) 1.92 9u / over 3.25 4.5 5u / 171 3.7 5u
pepineros imp`roved squad great deal this summer ...now they have lots of potential upfront ...but still find it hard to keep CS´s .... they have advantage of 2 more days rest and girona plays next vs superpower barsa ... girona will probably use some of their african signs upfront or the young ace brasilian .. catalans never lost to south madrilians in only 4 outings .. hard to pick a winner but smell goals ...

Alaves +1 1.6 10.4u / (0) 3.5 4u / D & o 3.5 16 3u / A +3.5 21 1u / over 2.25 1.9 9.3u / over 3.25 3.45 6u / over (4) 7 3u
higly anticipa.... errerrrererererr .. at riazor where urged locals face under interim coach babazorros ..and we feel despite situation on guest is not ideal scoreless and coachless tehy can take adv of locals defensive frailties and urgency .. it must be said despite numbers vitorianos have a cracking squad by all accounts ..full of quality in all lines and teh interim coach one of those that knows footie bussiness inside out might put pieces togueter ... locasl as well not best feelings will field 3 atackers with goal within like lucas andone and cartabia ... visitors did not lose vs gallegos in 4 last season ... likely goals in both ends ...



Sevilla -1.25 1.82 11.5u / 1/1 1.95 9u / (-2) 2.9 8u / (-3) 5.8 6u / wg 2.8 7u / over (3) 1.8 9u / over (4) 3.2 6u /
cheers ... whites receive pio pio in a hot one after summer vitolo affair and we believe locals with huge and wide squad should take advantage of LP
defesnive frailties ..did not watch them vs malaga but in other games they looked quite soft and poor just like last season runing bacwards and overall defending .. athletic had easy chance only EL game and rotation were paid to add woes guest have many missings tough their first 11 will be still strong as viera & calleri - very good signs by LP this summer with argie and remy - out - - are main atacking threats - vitolo started season quite off focus as his situation is hard to understand ... locals can field two equally strong sides and tough their game is not supper dupper ...results talk themselves wining in what could be two tough places this season ... usual berizzo and seviglia flanks atacking game does not suit LP defensive holes ..not their on paper great within lines potential with sarabia corea ganso banega and co ... this could very well finish like valencia last night ...

Real (-3) @ 2 10u / (-4) 3.55 6u / (-5) 7 3u / over (4) 1.74 8u / over (5) 2.76u / wg @ 2.2 7u
looking at results last seaons only once or two at most did real cover this spread ... under zidane their atack is often quite caotic and therea re not automatism and so many changes do not help yet coming from two draws at bernabeu and with squad looking quite on high spirits this early season and trash and bounce back is likely sp since betis is far from levante and valencia
traits w/o ball as those two have coaches that build side from defense contrary to setien who always likes ball possesion oriented tactics ... and so far its going by teh book with ok oof number but quite soft going back .. betis will rotate with two players key in last win vs depor ... but they have wide squad and can cover with fresh legs .. local will recover influential units like marcelo and cristiano (kross) and later we know at this time of season where votes are to be casted for ballon d´ore ..is always fired and hypermotivated now even more after last night messi outstanding performance ..... ceballos could have soem minutes vs his former club ....


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Getafe +1 1.65 11u / (0) 3.7 7u / 2/2 8 3u / over 2.25 1.75 7u / -1 11 2u /
celestes do not arise much confidence despite having more flair than last season upfront ... looks quite soft defending and covering gaps ..vs geta missing jap but solid and dangerous on counter game bad h2h from azulones

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Formentera (0) 2.1 10u / under (1) ht 2.05 7u / under (2) 2.05 7u /
host have this great cup feelings from last seaosn promoted to 2b and have stronger squad .. and advantage of art not wet pitch ..this is big plus vs group II teams that are free turf - merely 2-3 teams play at this surface ..contrary to gr 3 with half ... UDL great feelings under this coach since last seaosn last 1/3 ... oddsstarted with (0) 2.8 so value gone still worth a small try ... guest rotate a bit leaving two reg like noño & espina out .. dead ball wich teams like formentera use in their benefit could decide ...

Ponferradina (0) 1.8 10u / over (2) 1.72 9u / 2/2 4u / -1 3u
bierzo outfit can use galons and classa bove in many positions togueter with sharp coach to dispose of low conf gimnastica after receiving set at toledo .... both with best available....

Fuenlabrada -.25 1.72 10.2u / under ht (1) 1.65 8u / under (2) 2.05 7u / 0-0 2u / -1 3.8 5u
madrilians have on ranks 2ª players and are under same coach from months tough some other big guns fell at this pitch like r union or UDL ..and leioa ..noone of them had great team feelings --blues do have such strong game that given huge stakes in terms of money at play should prevail either way ...

Talavera +.25 @ 2 10.8u / under ht 1 1.65 7u / under 2.25 1.8 7u / 1/1 3u / wg 2u
Host are not easy rivals and shall have full house in search of "the gordo" ...allready proved in some deciders liek at PO vs olimpìc or two derbys vs similar to efese toledo they can compete at crunch time..same trunk as in tercera or in 2b two years back ..same coach and some adquisitions ..problem is cartagena is one of strongest sides of 2b under same coach ... delivering but home adv should decide and odds are wrong ...

Hercules +.25 @ 1.9 10.2u / under ht 1 1.62 8u / under 2.25 1.73 7u /
Big alicante derby ..elche arrives with better feelings ..have way more fire but this is a derby and host play at home and have more galons and equally strong suqad in most positions...reserved prognosis ...

Olot +1 2.2 10.2u / (0) 6.4 4u / under ht 1 1.75 7u / / under 2.25 1.95 8u /
only mild stakes couse such big guns like murcia esp given political situation may have a push by muppet with whistle ... not great feeling at host that have 4times more budget than catalans yet are way less entrosed and so much pressured ..wich often is ahandicap ..
locals allready failed at reg twice at nueva condomina .. while olot showed they can compete at similar rico perez and disposed of very tricky sporting b at PO ... then signed more exp and quality on summer with couple units ...

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Las Palmas +1.5 AH @ 2 looks promising. Sevilla will play away at Atletico Madrid on 23.09 and after that they will have a CL game on 26.09. Las Palmas got a good late win against Athletic B on Sunday and their morale should be high. Vitolo is returning to his old club and it's unlikely that he will get a warm welcome. Remy is out for Las Palmas (he scored the winner against Bilbao). I think the visitors could get a good result and even snatch a point. Thoughts anyone?
at the first glance I thought' Las Palmas to score and @ 1,60 is a nice odd so no mumbo jumbo like litost but right in the head
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Athletic +.25 @ 2 10.5u / over (2) 1.9 8u / 1/1 6.8 5u / -1 8.2 2u / wg 3u / o 3.5 5.25 3u
big athletics derby .. always high intensity specially late years ... simeone has upper hand only losing once since taking helm but this is a place were you do not come off focus ... wich hardly ever hapens when colchoneros are involved ... stiull even on equal conditions athletic has a chance .. they rotated big last match and shall field best 11 .. and this 11 has huge players in every line .. match winners ..starting with new young ace kepa ... losing valverde has not been such a great minus since ziganda knows all youngsters and the club inside out all he had to do is go along ... and its working ...
so we have locals with best 11 and atletico making soem small rotations in the back and amidst busy weeks .. san mames can be tricky and tough both look very solid i expect chances & goals in high tempo game as suusal in this pitch in such matches ...
I am also thinking about taking goals on this game, I am considering BTS as well as the asian line, but what is putting me off a little bit is the fact that so far Athletic have only scored 3 goals. The other day they couldn't even score against Las Palmas, which as you said are terrible defensively. Looking at Athletic's record against Atleti however they rarely fail to score against them at home and most of their games have plenty of goals. So let's hope that a fired-up home side can score an early goal and this way we will have an open game with at least 3 goals!
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well muniain - in form - aduritz and beñat plus home adv sp for athletic make a big diference ....

of course atletico is far from las palmas defending ... like day & night .....
but i can see mighty lions (!) .. scoring
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Well the game started already, I decided to take BTS with 3 units, and BTS in the 1st half with 1 unit, I think this game might be a off to a fast start.
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What a disgraceful penalty for Athletic, still Oblak is one of the best keepers for penalties and was able to easily deny Aduritz's bad shot.
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They score 3 without Ronaldo at Sociedad and when he comes back they cant put one past Betis and he misses everything...
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Great call Miccho. Typical Real really unfocused and clueless tactically, just throwing stupid crosses but also unlucky with some huge misses but Betis played brave and got maximum. Im amazed how idiotic can look tactically prolly the best team of last season , i mean you wont see top class sides like Juve, Bayern, PSG, losing in such childish manner, with players really watching how Betis dribbles and unable to make pressing in last 5 min, colapsing physically. Tittle race prolly over, altghough too early but 7 points in Spain is huge difference.
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