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Old 05-03-04, 11:16   #1
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Default Be aware of ICQ-Contacts!

I have read some stories on the forums about tipsters' cheating before, but I was involved in this one and my ICQ number was found on BA forum, so I must tell you this!

My friend logged in BA forum and coulpe days later he was approached by a guy on ICQ, who told a story of a tipster that has great record. This guy told he was using tipster's tips and he won 18 out of 18. Price of one pick is 10GBP. So my friend started to buy them and the record wasn't very good. Last week he lost 4 out of 6. Plus he payed for those good picks that won. So you see - lots of lost money
I logged in BA just couple days ago, so I knew the story already. And today I was approached by the same guy who told the same story about the tipster and the last 18 out of 18 wins!
Obvious: hes in one team with that tipster (or even the same person). and wants to cheat people about tipsters ability.
Thing to know: both my friend and I were contacted by ICQ numbers that were found through BA forum. So be careful when someone contacts you by ICQ.

Im not mentioning nicks, just letting you know the story so you could be more careful than my friend was.

Good luck for everyone in avoiding cheaters and liars!
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Old 05-03-04, 11:23   #2
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I think that you have to mention nicks so that the moderators can track them down. This kind of illegal activities are not tolerated in this forum!
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Old 05-03-04, 11:29   #3
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why not give nicks?? :?

IMo say who and who..so we all know...but thats not my point..

WHY WHY one earth would u pay for tips**????? 8O :evil:

like you said..a pick misses and you lose your money and money that you gave to that dude.....
Man so much information on the net..so much information here on bettingadvice.com and so much informations on other pages...in chat...newspapers....and you want to give $$ to some other dude...
Well let me tell you..it`s hard almost impossible to have 18/18 and keep on winning..couse if he is selling picks everyday..then he must have picks for everyday so...it`s not possible to win all everyday so that makes him human just like all of us tipsters here....in the future man better avoid those situations..


i still think you should give names-nicks..couse maybe he is using some of the names here for undercover and you might have wrong opinion about somebody...

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I changed the subject - I first thought, you wanna discredit the tipsters at BA, who give their good picks for FREE!

Unfortunately, this story is well known, I heard it from different sides already, some criminals are trying to find - pardon me - fools, who believe in that nonsense. Have you ever seen any serious tipster here demanding for money? We get nothing more than virtual flowers. 18 of 18? 18 times he guessed that Justine Henin or Kim Clijsters won't lose in some first and second rounds I guess... :lol:

Give us the names then, so everybody can be warned. Don't publish your ICQ-Number, give it only to people you know and you would like to get in contact with.
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What is ICQ, and ICQ-Number?
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Hi,
Iīd like to add some words about this...

At first, everything what Diegas wrote is right!
About two weeks ago contacted me some guy on ICQ and told me the same story. He buy picks from tipster who won 24 out of 24 :lol:
Iīhave said Iīm not interested in this, but another week he contacted me again and give me ICQ number of the tipster. So I was curious... :wink:

I wanted to see his precious betting history, but he hasnīt any, I wanted see his betting site but he has only for horse racing (http://www.tpracing.com) so it was sure he is only cheater.


He sent me these conditions:

Dear sir,

We offer 2 alternatives for our punters.

1)weekly weekly payments: All punters will pay weekly for the picks. Everyday 2 picks will be given to our punters through their e mails. For that section, payments will be make on every monday mornings. Cost: 14 picks--> 140 gbp ((2 picks everyday x 10gbp) x 7 days))

2)Monthly payments: All punters will pay monthly for the picks. Everyday again 2 picks will be given to our punters. For that section, the payments will be make on the 1st day of each month. Cost: 60 picks--> 600gbp ((2 picks everyday x 10 gbp) x 30 days))

***The payback situation:

All the paybacks for the possible lose picks will be collected together and will be totally paid back on the last day of the week or month.


***Bonus:

For all the new comers that you bring to our system, you will get an %10 cut for the payment of weekly or monthly payment.

For example if you bring 2 new comers to our system you will get around 120 gbp cut for the monthly payment.

600 gbp*(%10)=60 600-60=540gbp

540 gbp*(%10)=54 540-54=486gbp

600-486=114 gbp(around 120 gbp cut)


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the e-mail adress was yetxsghx@yahoo.com and name huhu uyhgy :lol: :lol:


And names? Both person (IMO itīs only one person) are from Manchester. Their names are Terry (tipster) and Twiks!!!
Iīll try to find their ICQ numbers.


So donīt be too credulous!! And donīt pay for picks... :wink:
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He buy picks from tipster who won 24 out of 24 :lol:
Wow, his record is getting better every day. :lol: I have to join now :lol:.

(note: this one was a joke - do not pay for picks! :wink: )
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He buy picks from tipster who won 24 out of 24 :lol:
Wow, his record is getting better every day. :lol: I have to join now :lol:.

(note: this one was a joke - do not pay for picks! :wink: )
Yes, he is maybe best tipster in the world!! :P

And here is his ICQ number: 274273087... but he is about 20 years older now! He was about 25 and for now he is 43 :wink: :roll:
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this is what i know from another forum
btw i read that it is total crap and prank or whatever you name it
e-mail : terrysthebest@yahoo.com
Icq: 274273087
another one: 322341194
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Yep, the name of the guy who contacted me on ICQ is twiks54, ICQ#247009159. On ICQ hes from Manchester.

some quote from ICQ:
twiks54 (11:36 AM) :
he guarantees a minimum %85 winning for each punter in a full year thats why he has more than 1500 punters around europe
twiks54 (11:36 AM) :
I am %100 with him after 18 picks
twiks54 (11:36 AM) :
18 wins out of 18 matches

One more interesting thing: when i asked him "who are you?", he answered "Mushu from BA". I dont know if thats true though. Cause he could have lied about that too.
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And names? Both person (IMO itīs only one person) are from Manchester. Their names are Terry (tipster) and Twiks!!!
Iīll try to find their ICQ numbers.
Twiks - that's also the person, who tried to demand for "Payfriend-Money" at Gamebookers. He is doing this via PM and via CHAT. He is from Turkey.

I wouldn't say "never pay for picks". Because some people really have the talent to pick the right games. And there is a lot of hard work behind doing researches, analyzing, maybe calculating, etc. But what you need is a betting-history before. And some time to test the service.

I cannot understand, that people are willing to pay for just some "words". Is it like women sometimes believe in guys who tell them "I am the best lover in the world" and then realize after 1minute of "Sex", that this was obviously not true... :?:
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Is it like women sometimes believe in guys who tell them "I am the best lover in the world"
well....i am
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well....i am
Yeah, I was actually talking about you. Good that you take it with humour.
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Is it like women sometimes believe in guys who tell them "I am the best lover in the world" and then realize after 1minute of "Sex", that this was obviously not true... :?:
One of the few times I have laughed very loud when reading BAforum. :lol: :lol:

Im must test that line. Perhaps tonight!
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Man, I tell ya, he's the best around..yeah :twisted:
I've played his "game" on the chat so many times...If I enter with different nicks every day he doesn't remeber that he talked to me the other day too...when he wanted to tell me how ****in' good is this William (Terry etc :roll: ) guy I looked very interested in the matter, willin' to pay him much for his great picks :mrgreen: Is so fun to make him angry in the end bwuhahahah :twisted:
When U are somehow bored, talk to him...he's great...and SOOOO STUPID :lol:
Once he even gave me a GREAT free pick...obviously he lost the pick :twisted: A 1.35 odd pick :lol: :lol:
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Man, I tell ya, he's the best around..yeah :twisted:
I've played his "game" on the chat so many times...If I enter with different nicks every day he doesn't remeber that he talked to me the other day too...when he wanted to tell me how f*ck' good is this William (Terry etc :roll: ) guy I looked very interested in the matter, willin' to pay him much for his great picks :mrgreen: Is so fun to make him angry in the end bwuhahahah :twisted:
When U are somehow bored, talk to him...he's great...and SOOOO STUPID :lol:
Once he even gave me a GREAT free pick...obviously he lost the pick :twisted: A 1.35 odd pick :lol: :lol:
Iīve got a free pick too... but my won :wink: He is so great tipster! :lol: :P
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TERRY and twiks are turkish guys that want to steal some money using the name of an english tipster ....

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Same thing hapened to my but of course i didn't belive it..
Same great tipster Terry....
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Well, my word of advice is:

A guy who has to make a living of selling tips to others, can't be a good punter, otherwise his own betting would put food on his table.


...just my to cents
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Their names are Terry (tipster) and Twiks!!!
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[18:21] <guestt> hi
[18:22] <D`ice> hi
[18:22] <guestt> how are you?
[18:22] <D`ice> fine thx
[18:22] <D`ice> you?
[18:23] <guestt> good
[18:23] <guestt> in which bookies do you bet mate?
[18:23] <D`ice> GB
[18:23] <guestt> I see
[18:23] <guestt> how is your betting goes then?
[18:23] <D`ice> mmm
[18:23] <D`ice> bad
[18:24] <guestt> I see
[18:24] <guestt> mine bets is excellent last 2 weeks, I began to get picks from a tipster, he is very famous around europe
[18:24] <D`ice> really?
[18:24] <guestt> he gave me 17 picks last week and 17 wons
[18:24] <D`ice> wow
[18:24] <D`ice> that's nice
[18:25] <guestt> yep
[18:25] <D`ice> u must have made huge profit
[18:25] <guestt> he guarantees a minimum %85 winning for each punter in a full year, thats why he has more than 2500 punters around europe
[18:25] <D`ice> what's his name?
[18:26] <guestt> his name is Terry
[18:26] <guestt> he is an english man
[18:26] <D`ice> never heard of him
[18:26] <D`ice> and i'm english too
[18:27] <guestt> hmm thats strange
[18:27] <D`ice> yea
[18:27] <D`ice> so , how much did you pay for his picks?
[18:28] <guestt> I pay 10 pounds for each pick
[18:28] <guestt> I totally paid 170 pounds for 17 picks and made around 5780 pounds profit
[18:28] <D`ice> that's kind of expensive
[18:28] <guestt> his picks are very profitable
[18:29] <D`ice> what did he have yesterday?
[18:30] <guestt> he gave me Manchester United under 2.5 odds 1.85 and and Toronto Raptors handicap
[18:30] <guestt> and all won
[18:31] <guestt> do you have icq?


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Sounds familiar? :evil: :evil: If not just ignore the guy!
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Haha..this guy is funny :lol:
I thought i was the only one to be contacted by that brilliant tipster :twisted:
He started chatting to me on ICQ(same story,english Tonny guy-never heard of him although i live in England :roll and adviced me to take these three bets:

Henman 1.65(1.74) won
Fish 1.51(1.57) lost
Celta 1.45(1.57) lost

He's that good that he didn't even bother finding the best available odds :lol:
He asked me for 10 GBP for each bet,but i told him he'll get the money the next day ops:
Looks like i was unlucky and that day he got 1/3,although before that he had 17/17 or sth.. :lol:
my username is David83 (D is in capital) and e mail is barbam@mynet.com in gamebookers
..in case someone wants to pay him for the picks :wink:
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yesterday he contacted me in chatroom,you guess same story happen,and I just told him I got 20/20 recent :lol: ,and I ask him to help me sell picks
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Ha ha, that's hilarious! That was the best action against such pests!
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I made this thread a sticky, we need to inform all users, so unlike other stories we've read on this forum how people have been cheated of their funds they can know before hand. Keep reporting these people, good job guys!

PS: If you find them in the chat, just notified one of the moderators and we will take the appropiate course of action.
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Well, my word of advice is:

A guy who has to make a living of selling tips to others, can't be a good punter, otherwise his own betting would put food on his table.


...just my to cents
I totally disagree...
We have limits.We can`t live from betting because of limits.So some punters sell their picks to other...At the first look it isn`t expensive...but if you ,,*'' with 1000 then you will see that the seller makes a good profit.
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I made this thread a sticky, we need to inform all users, so unlike other stories we've read on this forum how people have been cheated of their funds they can know before hand. Keep reporting these people, good job guys!

PS: If you find them in the chat, just notified one of the moderators and we will take the appropiate course of action.
Isaac ...everytime i change my nick this guy come to me and say:
How are you?
In which bookie do u bet guy?
How are ur bets going?
Do u need a tipster?

Bull-shits like this...And i say to him:
No...i don`t need a famous tipster from england who is 18/18.And he is so angrey then.Because of this i flooded him 2 times :lol:
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Hmm..R9, it's you in that avatar?
And who's the other person that is pissing on you? :lol:
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Hmm..R9, it's you in that avatar?
And who's the other person that is pissing on you? :lol:
Addict...again you...If you wanna ,,certi'' with me do it in private...
Cause here the supermoderator Koffie will delete our posts and we won`t be able to understand each other. :P
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