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  • madugu_gorge
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    • Sep 2017
    • 83

    Question regarding South American football

    I just remembered one thing that I wanted to ask our South American colleagues here for a long time, so if there are any here, please read this.
    If mods think this isn't a suitable place to ask, I apologize in advance. Please move it to appropriate place then, and inform me.

    So, with most of south american leagues approaching their final rounds, it would be a good idea to consider motivation of some teams, not just their fight for title/relegation which are obvious reasons to fight for of course, but for participation in continental competition tournaments. Of course I am talking about Copa Libertadores, and especially Copa Sudamericana. I mean, can we draw a parallel line between the two tournaments and their European matches - CL and EL which are more known to us? We are witnessing all the time how top european leagues teams are hardly shuffling their lineups for EL, and some do it for CL as well in early stages. Some teams surely tank it purposely. My personal impression is that all the teams in South America are valuing continental tournaments more than domestic championships and prefer to send their best team always in CL or CS, but then again, I don't speak Spanish or Brazilian (:P) to inform myself about these tournaments, nor I am generally introduced to them that good.

    I guess qualifying for Copa Libertadores has a high priority (but still I am kindly asking for confirmation here too) for every team, but what about Copa Sudamericana? Can we expect an extra push out of those teams that can fight for their place in CS? Are those competitions financially profitable and are the prizes in them something to fight for? Are they affordable and payable? I guess they are for Argentinian and Brazilian teams (and few other top dogs like Athletico Nacional, Penarol, Colo Colo etc.) , but what about small teams from not so rich countries like Bolivia or Paraguay? I mean, it surely costs a lot to play two/three games a week while traveling thousands of km's far few times a week. Also, would top teams that are always a championship candidate that are having a bad season (with no chance for title or place in CL) have extra motivation to clinch a place in CS? (at the moment, like Corinthians, Estudiantes (ARG) or Colo Colo). I know Chelsea wouldn't : D
  • madugu_gorge
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    • Sep 2017
    • 83

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    Bump...

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    • WiserthantheCrowd
      Senior Member
      • Jul 2014
      • 2431

      #3
      There are similarities and differences between the Copa Libertadores and the Sudamericana as well as the CL and EL. It's been compared to the CL and the EL but I think that the Sudamericana is a bit more prestigious than the EL in Europe. While in the last few years, a few clubs have come to dominate the CL the situation is not the same yet in SA although a Brazilian and Argentinian dominance is emerging. For example, recently a mid-table club from Paraguay (Nacional) recently made it to the finals of the Libertadores. That would be very unlikely in Europe...

      So to answer your question - yes, I think teams are motivated to play in the Sudamericana, especially outside of Argentina and Brazil. We have even seen teams go on to win the Libertadores one year and then the Sudamericana the next. The finalist also gets to play the winner of the Libertadores in the Recopa and then goes on to play the Surugi Cup in Japan. Of course, the Copa Libertadores still is the older and more prestigious competition. The prize money is better for the Copa Libertadores. The prize money for the Copa Sudamericana is about 40% of what it is for the Libertadores. You can see the table here:



      Since there is no group stage in the Sudamericana and it is a knockout competition from the beginning, the route to the finals is shorter in the Sudamericana. In sum, I think the Sudamericana is still attractive for clubs although for the top clubs in Brazil and Argentina the pull may not be as strong as elsewhere...
      Last edited by WiserthantheCrowd; 01-12-18, 03:11.

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      • madugu_gorge
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        • Sep 2017
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        #4
        thanks...

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        • BanDit
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          • Dec 2012
          • 535

          #5
          @madugu

          @wiser

          Thanks for the interesting question and for the very understandable and helpfull answer.

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