Copa Libertadores 09-11 February 2010 - Page 2

Andi · 11-02-10, 06:18

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Originally Posted by IGUANA

100% agree with this. I've said pretty much the same about Cruzeiro @ Potosi, where was more or less the same thing as here (more qulity in Cruzeiro than in Alianza, but u get the point), and they could've won it easily if they wanted to, but then came the red card for the Brazilians, and the game stopped for them. The Peruvians shouldn't have that attitude, as in the groups things should be a bit different, and since they are in a pretty tough group, 6 points with Bolivar would be excellent for them. Also counting on them being more cool-headed than the Brazilian teams, and finishing the game with all 11 players on the pitch.

+0.75 on them looks quite safe, but the real value here is in the DNB, and I'm fully backing Achilles's pick:
Alianza DNB @ 3.90, bet365, 4/10 for me

nice call guys , iguana told you i had a feeling on that over at half time ...

bahtadd · 11-02-10, 06:18

is estuidantes considered one of the stronger favroites to win the copa? and juan aurich supposed to be last in the group? so many things change from season to season in argentina it is hard to keep up, thanks.

i was on juan aurich last week in the copa qualifying match and was impressed, but they're opponents this time around may be on higher level.

IGUANA · 11-02-10, 09:06

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Originally Posted by bahtadd

is estuidantes considered one of the stronger favroites to win the copa? and juan aurich supposed to be last in the group? so many things change from season to season in argentina it is hard to keep up, thanks.

i was on juan aurich last week in the copa qualifying match and was impressed, but they're opponents this time around may be on higher level.

Yes, Estudiantes is considered one of the favorites for Libertadores, and they should win their group with ease, but Juan Aurich is no way expected to be last in the group. They are of similar level to Alianza Lima, and both have quite the same chances to qualify.

This match will be a no-bet for me, as odds on home win simply are not worth a single cent, while the -1.5 handicap is rather huge for Libertadores. Aurich has enough power to block the defense, and maybe they could even score one, so the 1.87 for this handicap is not worth trying it imo. Estudiantes will very probably win, it's possible they'll cover the handicap, but I say it again, I don't see any value in it.

Achilles · 11-02-10, 09:12

Estudiantes maybe won't spend too much effort and will try to take 3 points while spending less effort. They will visit Independiente after this game in local league. So maybe we can see something like 1-0 or 2-0.

IGUANA · 11-02-10, 09:34

Nacional - Deportivo Cuenca
The only bet that seems decent for today is the handicap on the Uruguayans. Nacional is a team with great tradition in the South American football, and a good start to their Libertadores campaign is a must, and remember that they were semi-finalists last season. They will field an offensive team, and will use the wings to break what should be an overcrowded Ecuadorian defense. Deportivo Cuenca has already announced they will be using only one man up-front, while the rest of the players will probably pack the defense. And to be honest, I'm expecting here the same scenario as Cerro - Quito match, as both Uruguayans team play more or less similar football, while all Ecuadorians are very poor travelers, so I can't see past a home win here, and the handicap should be delivered easily. GL!
Probable Line-ups:
NACIONAL: Rodrigo Munoz, Christian Nunez, Alejandro Lembo, Sebastian Coates, Gustavo Varela, Oscar Javier Morales, Mauricio Pereyra, Alvaro Gonzalez, Angel Morales, Santiago Garcia and Mario Regueiro.
DEPORTIVO CUENCA: Esteban Dreer, Diego Ianiero, Arlin Ayovi, Jaime Chila, Juan Guerron, Giancarlo Ramos, John Garcia, Mauricio Hurtado, Jose Granda, Gabriel Mendez and Luis Miguel Escalada.
Nacional -1.25 @ 2.03, Pinnacle, 5/10

AGUERO · 11-02-10, 16:05

bet on mexican team against argentinian in argentina ??
The was silly bet. but in respect for the tipster i puted X2 on morelia, and, afcorse lost

nacional home win

estudiantes home win
cero under
seams like nice combo bet for today

in first two games home teams are much bether then the guests,
cero and indipediente m. played two times, only 2 goals for 180 minutes

cheers

pfc123 · 11-02-10, 16:40

@ Aguero - i didnt bet it as well but you should know that Morelia played whole 2nd half with man down

and there are sometimes reasons to back Mexican teams away in Argentina... i still remember few seasons ago Lanus - Atlas match which was banker X2 for me when Atlas won easily

IGUANA · 11-02-10, 18:32

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Originally Posted by pfc123

@ Aguero - i didnt bet it as well but you should know that Morelia played whole 2nd half with man down

And, while 11 vs 11, in the first half, Morelia was slightly better than Banfield, so my bet on the Argies was a pretty bad one

, but was lucky won, thnx to that red card.

Olo_13 · 11-02-10, 19:05

Estudiantes De La Plata vs. Juan Aurich

La Plata is much better than Aurich. Maybe in Peru Aurich is in the top, but i don't think they have any chance which Estudiantes. I don't think that I need to write something more, everyone here knows the strength of Estudiantes.

For me it's clear that La Plata -1.5 is a good pick.

La Plata -1.5 1.76
Pinnacle

litost · 11-02-10, 19:16

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Originally Posted by AGUERO

bet on mexican team against argentinian in argentina ??
The was silly bet. but in respect for the tipster i puted X2 on morelia, and, afcorse lost

nacional home win

estudiantes home win
cero under
seams like nice combo bet for today

in first two games home teams are much bether then the guests,
cero and indipediente m. played two times, only 2 goals for 180 minutes

cheers

I am on the over here colombian teams do not speculate and they are wary of aerial and long shots from guaranis so plan to take it to their own half wereas Cerro under this coach was never rock solid conceding inmost games , host miss nanni plus other 2 suspended -among them captain both experienced but have some quaility youngsters- after maracana quarrel but signed rated striker from azteca league , despite Once Caldas trash of nacional on paper stronger than cerro but the laterhave way more galons in libertadores and we all know tis same team can compete beating the likes of goias , botafogo and (almost ) flu ...
So those even odds may be valueable as well imo ..

Cerro -1/2 @ 2 4/10 & over 2 1/4 1.8 5/10

IGUANA · 11-02-10, 21:45

Blooming - Universitario
Another Bolivian - Peruvian duel tonight in Libertadores, and I expect the same outcome as usual. Bolivians are almost at the bottom of the South American football, but at club level and national team level, while Peru should be much better, at least at club level. Blooming doesn't have the high altitude advantage that other clubs from Bolivia do, so this will be a bigger advantage for Universitario, as they can do their usual game, without extra-worrying about air and fatigue. Universitario were awesome last year, and despite some off-roads in the recent friendlies, I am more than confident that they have more quality than Blooming, and should control the game, and I don't see them losing tonight. GL!
Universitario DNB @ 2.03, Pinnacle, 5/10

AGUERO · 11-02-10, 22:03

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Originally Posted by pfc123

@ Aguero - i didnt bet it as well but you should know that Morelia played whole 2nd half with man down

and there are sometimes reasons to back Mexican teams away in Argentina... i still remember few seasons ago Lanus - Atlas match which was banker X2 for me when Atlas won easily

1:0 for Banfild was before that red card.
Morelia isnt pacuka, club america, chivas,
and even that clubs were not successful in Argentina.
I know ALSO that all argentinian clubs have much bether H2H with mexican clubs.

Banfiid was champions of argentina - with only 1 lost game !
Morelia won champioship of mexican by the playoff. And playoffs are sometimes lotery.

I dont feel need to quarrel with eny1
but argument "morelia was good" meens nothing. Final result of game is important
and the result is home win of Banfild.
And i still claime that BET ON MEXICAN TEAM as guest in argentina , champion of argentina is a silly bet.
I respect all tipsters here, but that bet on morelia cost me to much:
Velez H/H +
Sao paolo ( -1 ) +
Banfild X2 - -

bump1111 · 11-02-10, 22:08

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Originally Posted by AGUERO

1:0 for Banfild was before that red card.

It wasnt. It was 0-0, then red card, then 1-0, then 2-0, then 2-1.

The Mexicans wouldnt have lost if it wasnt for that red card, it was a good pick but obviously no one can predict referees sending people off.

IGUANA · 11-02-10, 22:11

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Originally Posted by AGUERO

1:0 for Banfild was before that red card.

Banfiid was champions of argentina - with only 1 lost game !

You are wrong two times here...

It was 0-0 before the red card, and Banfield lost 2 games... do your research better pls

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Originally Posted by bump1111

The Mexicans wouldnt have lost if it wasnt for that red card

You can't know that...

bump1111 · 11-02-10, 22:15

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Originally Posted by IGUANA

You can't know that...

Well obviously, thats why its called an opinion and written under my username. Because its my opinion.

Achilles · 12-02-10, 00:58

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Originally Posted by AGUERO

1:0 for Banfild was before that red card.
Morelia isnt pacuka, club america, chivas,
and even that clubs were not successful in Argentina.
I know ALSO that all argentinian clubs have much bether H2H with mexican clubs.

Banfiid was champions of argentina - with only 1 lost game !
Morelia won champioship of mexican by the playoff. And playoffs are sometimes lotery.

I dont feel need to quarrel with eny1
but argument "morelia was good" meens nothing. Final result of game is important
and the result is home win of Banfild.
And i still claime that BET ON MEXICAN TEAM as guest in argentina , champion of argentina is a silly bet.
I respect all tipsters here, but that bet on morelia cost me to much:
Velez H/H +
Sao paolo ( -1 ) +
Banfild X2 - -

Have you watched the game ? What Banfield? Morelia played better till down to 10 men. Where have you been before games started ? If you are the greatest SA tipster post here your best. Ah and btw thats not Banfiiiid , Banfield

Also can you confirm that Libertad was a silly bet against Lanus?!

IGUANA · 12-02-10, 08:43

Thread locked, before AGUERO replies and this escalates even further./IGUANA