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Old 21-10-11, 11:26   #1
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How "safe" the Asian bookies are at his moment or is our money safe there?

I have very very bad experience with online bookies.

I had account just one time at one Asian bookies and it was Pointbet i think. They disappeared over night and my all money there. Never heard something about them. Then i lost trust in Asian marked and never opened one account of any of Asians bookie. But it was before 5-6 years i think.

Now i am ended my cooperation with majority of European bookies also (Unibet, Nordicbet, Bwin, Bet365, Betsafe, Expect, Sportingbet....)..No one of them have all i need (no limits, nice offer on football, small leagues, no problems with their web sites, customer service, payment methods...)

Can you recommend one bookie what dont have stupid small limits if i want few bets in a row, what dont have problems with web site, what has simply payments methods and nice and fast customer service??

Thank you
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Old 22-10-11, 11:36   #2
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12Bet, SBO
These 2 are the most reliable in Asia atm
CS is immediate and payment and withdrawals for big amounts i have not faced issues YET
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12Bet, SBO
These 2 are the most reliable in Asia atm
CS is immediate and payment and withdrawals for big amounts i have not faced issues YET
12bet are not for serious punters. They have very small limits.. Try SBObet yes. And possible pinnaclesports.com, eventhough they offer less soccer leagues. You will not get limits at those 2 places.

But if you bet on other sports than soccer, you might find their limits small as well.
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Forgot to actually answer your question about how safe asian bookmakers are these days.


Personally I do not advice people to keep more money in their accounts than they need to, since bookmakers operating out of asia will never be 100% safe, like we saw with Pointbet, which at the time was considered one of the biggest and safest asian bookmakers around.

So if you want close to 100% safety, you can just use the huge european bookmakers listed on the stockexchanges, but there you are not allowed to win, and odds are much worse.

If you want high limits and good odds, you have to take a small risk of betting with Asian bookmakers. But just keep in mind not having all your money at the same bookmaker or have more money than you need in the account. Use 2-5 different asian bookmakers and use Neteller or Moneybookers to move money around when needed.
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The story with Pointbet is totally different. They were simply a pyramid that would crash soon or later, first it was not licensed and regulated by anyone, operating from a territory where any gambling is illegal, also I've heard they were gambling themselves with the players funds.

It is not the case with 188bet, SBOBET which are serious indeed.
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Hello

How "safe" the Asian bookies are at his moment or is our money safe there?

I have very very bad experience with online bookies.

I had account just one time at one Asian bookies and it was Pointbet i think. They disappeared over night and my all money there. Never heard something about them. Then i lost trust in Asian marked and never opened one account of any of Asians bookie. But it was before 5-6 years i think.

Now i am ended my cooperation with majority of European bookies also (Unibet, Nordicbet, Bwin, Bet365, Betsafe, Expect, Sportingbet....)..No one of them have all i need (no limits, nice offer on football, small leagues, no problems with their web sites, customer service, payment methods...)

Can you recommend one bookie what dont have stupid small limits if i want few bets in a row, what dont have problems with web site, what has simply payments methods and nice and fast customer service??

Thank you

Hello inter1977,

To tell you the truth I do not prefer the asian bookies either, Talking about not feeling too hot about being limitted... So I had registered in one www.1bet.com a coupla months ago but I never really played there thus I had forgotten about that It was juust recently that I received a newsletter from them about some recent changes they made so naturally it got me interested and I decided to give it a try. I want to place my bet and the first thing that caught my eye was those guys has some fine odds for the Asian handicap, something like 2 points above the market. I placed 900 Euro and I won of course, checked with their CSR about my rollover; I had to do it 3 times, I did as the chick adviced me and sent for a withdrawal request, she said no prob and it was like 5 hours after that I already had my money in my account, ain't that sweet. Try it and let me know what you think.
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I have accounts with SBOBet, 12Bet and Dafabet and absolutely no complaints so far. Friendly support, good funding possibilities (I use Skrill whereever I can) and withdrawals very quick.
Atm I do the rollover at acbet and I'm sure they are trustable also.
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Got an account at ibcbet, great bookmaker, also they offer high limits especially on soccer AH. I got my account through bet-ibc.com one year ago and I'm very pleased of their services (fast payouts through Skrill, also great customer support), you can take a look at their website, there you can find all the info you need about 12bet and ibcbet
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all big asian bookies are great, they rule the betting business, especially the big ones like ibcbet and SBO
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Sbobet and 188bet are great for mid to big size bettors. If your size is huge, you better search for a reliable agent of IBCbet. (I know one)
I suggest you stay away from 12bet, or, keep your exposure low, because i m not convinced about their reliability. Furthermore, their bonus tactics and the fact that they don't pay affiliates, makes me very skeptical about 12bet.
I hope i helped.
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I had the same problem with the low limits and finally I found my place. I registered couple of months ago in Premium Tradings and I got two accounts with them (SBO and Smartbet). Luckily nobody has run away with my money and I am ok with their services. I think to open myself an account in Pinnacle with them. Can somebody tell me if there is any point to open an account in Pinnacle as I have my accounts in SBO?
The point is always to find the highest odds for a particular match and so, having a larger selection of excellent bookmakers in one's portfolio is advisable, especially if we talk of pinnacle. Besides I don't know if you sometimes bet on the draw, in which case they always have the highest odds of the market.
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Thank you Levan. I will give a chance to Pinnacle, and also i can ask my PRMTS agency about the other sportsbooks they can provide me with. They offered me an account in ED and also in Singbet, but I think to start with Pinncale. Do you have any impressions from these bookies?
I know very well sbo,ibc,pinnacle and partly singbet and they are among the excellence of the industry. In my case I don't need to try others

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I suggest you stay away from 12bet, or, keep your exposure low, because i m not convinced about their reliability. Furthermore, their bonus tactics and the fact that they don't pay affiliates, makes me very skeptical about 12bet.
I hope i helped.
bull.s hit...12bet is as good as the other asians.
if u cannot fullfill their bonus conditions, it`s your own fault. btw..no one needs to uses bonuses, but if you are a beginner.
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bull.s hit...12bet is as good as the other asians.
if u cannot fullfill their bonus conditions, it`s your own fault. btw..no one needs to uses bonuses, but if you are a beginner.
12bet is not as good as the other Asians.
Compare the limits with the rest. 12bet has the size of a bug compared with the others.
In case that you are smart enough to bet on sharp lines, you will see your account limited to the pathetic 62.5 euros, or even less. These are limits that can be easily beaten by some bookmakers even from subsaharan Africa.
I would also like you to take a look at this video: http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...nus-rules.html
You will see that there is a problem of ethics there, and not a matter of weather a player would finish with ror.
Your statement about bonuses is great. It proves that you have a lot to learn.
And also, could you comment on the fact that 12bet is not paying affiliates? How does it sound to you? Is it a sign of reliability?
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I find SBO to be the best


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12bet is not as good as the other Asians.
Compare the limits with the rest. 12bet has the size of a bug compared with the others.
In case that you are smart enough to bet on sharp lines, you will see your account limited to the pathetic 62.5 euros, or even less. These are limits that can be easily beaten by some bookmakers even from subsaharan Africa.
I would also like you to take a look at this video: http://forum.sbrforum.com/sportsbook...nus-rules.html
You will see that there is a problem of ethics there, and not a matter of weather a player would finish with ror.
Your statement about bonuses is great. It proves that you have a lot to learn.
And also, could you comment on the fact that 12bet is not paying affiliates? How does it sound to you? Is it a sign of reliability?
188bet and sbobet often have lower limits for volleyball, basketball, handball... than 12bet. sbobet with their 48euro; for some european basketball leagues/ volleyball/waterpolo is also quite funny.

i don`t have anything to learn regarding to bonuses. i don`t use them for years, because of all these conditions, not only at 12bet.
why should i make my own stress, only to fullfill the bonus condition.

if bonus hunters cannot fullfill the conditions i don`t care. if there are curious conditions, skip this bonus.
btw...this guy, who deposite 1200euro is able to win 5100euro...why does he has to use bonuses? just because of the 230euro...he had won 5100.
bonuses are no gifts.

and there is no bookmaker, who will never be without customers problems.
i have read so many complaints about pinnaclesports, who often voided livebets... .
problems are everywhere - that`s life. bookmakers are no welfare
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188bet and sbobet often have lower limits for volleyball, basketball, handball... than 12bet. sbobet with their 48euro; for some european basketball leagues/ volleyball/waterpolo is also quite funny.

i don`t have anything to learn regarding to bonuses. i don`t use them for years, because of all these conditions, not only at 12bet.
why should i make my own stress, only to fullfill the bonus condition.

if bonus hunters cannot fullfill the conditions i don`t care. if there are curious conditions, skip this bonus.
btw...this guy, who deposite 1200euro is able to win 5100euro...why does he has to use bonuses? just because of the 230euro...he had won 5100.
bonuses are no gifts.

and there is no bookmaker, who will never be without customers problems.
i have read so many complaints about pinnaclesports, who often voided livebets... .
problems are everywhere - that`s life. bookmakers are no welfare
I completely agree with this, there are rules with a bonus, read them before you agree to them or else they can back fire, I deposited 400 euro on 12bet a couple of months ago and I managed to get it up to circa 1200 euro within a week, but by then I'd still failed to reach my rollover and thus became frustrated by the insistance that I had to bet so much, fortunately for me I didn't lose anything thanks to that bonus.

Most bookmakers believe that in having a bonus as an incentive with a rollover with encourage to bet more, and as most punters often aren't better knowledged than the traders more often than not, by the time a punter has gone to or nearabouts the requirements of the respective bookmaker their profits/losses would have been greatly affected by the bonus.

As most punters are mugs and lose in the long term, the books are more than happy to offer these bonuses to you so you can lose it all, and more often than not, when you seemingly know what you're doing with them, they limit you before its actually possible to do the rollover.... Its all about playing the game correctly, and unless you're bonus scalping, there is no point in ever taking bonuses in my opinion.
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Hello

How "safe" the Asian bookies are at his moment or is our money safe there?

I have very very bad experience with online bookies.

I had account just one time at one Asian bookies and it was Pointbet i think. They disappeared over night and my all money there. Never heard something about them. Then i lost trust in Asian marked and never opened one account of any of Asians bookie. But it was before 5-6 years i think.

Now i am ended my cooperation with majority of European bookies also (Unibet, Nordicbet, Bwin, Bet365, Betsafe, Expect, Sportingbet....)..No one of them have all i need (no limits, nice offer on football, small leagues, no problems with their web sites, customer service, payment methods...)

Can you recommend one bookie what dont have stupid small limits if i want few bets in a row, what dont have problems with web site, what has simply payments methods and nice and fast customer service??

Thank you
If you are looking for the best asian bookie than I can suggest Ibcbet,
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