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bolivia +.5 2 11u / scores 12u / over 2.25 1.65 10u
not easy at all for verde amarella whatever great team feelings under tite ... la paz is never easy .. on full house vs uplift under soria green whites despite locasl missing influential tigre duet chumacero and escobar base of this side is bolivar flying high lately plus some adq like lampe martins or machado plus couple of good tigre units ...
in front cariocas did got great score at quito on first game at helm form ex corinthians boss .. but this is way harsher and no matter what players say or look like stakes are not so high ... tite will field strong 1 with all big guns upfront still .. ... under l apaz sun at 1600 never easy ... and this players used to paris or london may feel awkward ...
brasil has bad record at qualies at siles ..and its unlikely theyll get somthg from it vs a side that held dry argies or chile in last 2 under this helm ...
venezuela +.75 2 11.3u / scores 11u / over 2.25 1.76 10.3u/ over (3) 2.8 8u / over (4) 5.9 4u
similar game to la paz only charruas still need point wich are very likely to get vs greens at montevideo yet they can play with that joker and get quailification at san cristobal only there is a problem wich is vinotinto are far from easy with those youngsters eager to impress and quality in all lines... like f.i both strikers martinez and rondon ...host recover infleuntial rincon and lose couple of tactical players like flesher and herrera plus can not count with fast machis ..still host main asset is atacking players couse back line is full of unexp fellas that will have problems vs two sharks like cavani and suarez .. add to this the suposed charruas solidness is missing lately an dwe have goals galore match ...Last edited by litost; 04-10-17, 21:55....but then again, who does? -
Colombia -1.25 @ 2 10.6u / over 2.25 1.75 10u / over (3) 2.8 6u / 1/1 @ 2 7u
Highly anticipateeeeeedddddd encounterrRRRRRR at barrankilla with cafeteros faceing guarani in a decider like all games at this last rounds ... and tough previous ones were quite underish we expect more goals and cut the crap traits this one and some teams like colmbia getting right down bussiness and get ticket by short cut .. this pitch is one of hardest pitches in this qulies and previous ones under pekerman and tough host seem a bit on a down unable to beat chile and uruguay plus brasil last one vs carioca showed tehy can still lift it witha come back and paraguay are by no means equal to some of those .. guaranis must be said got some results away in tricky places like argentina and chile but latter can be blamed on focus off from reds that tought were qualified and have way less phisical presence than cafeteros wich can not be used this time by red/whites while win at arg was mix of fluke and lack of deepness in albiceleste game lus lack of def gaem plan with so many coach turns ... locasl this tiem now their game quite good and pekerman will field their old guard David Ospina; Santiago Arias, Cristian Zapata, Davinson Sánchez, Frank Fabra; Carlos Sánchez, Abel Aguilar, Juan Guillermo Cuadrado, James Rodríguez; Teófilo Gutiérrez y Radamel Falcao García...... with local teo on ahigh lately after comong back to junior ...
guest on their side will miss up to 5 players from fisrt 11 that won at santiago ....expected Antony Silva; Bruno Valdez, Gustavo Gómez, Fabián Balbuena y Miguel Samudio; Jorge Moreira, Víctor Cáceres, Richard Ortiz y Óscar Romero; Derlis González y Ángel Romero ......that may not be such big deal couse they have replacements playing to flight footie yet soem guys like silva and barrios or almiron may be missed .... its obvious visitors can not speculate much couse anything but 3 is worthless ( host may as well not settle for draw couse losing by 2+ at lima could see them either playing PO or plainly out ... so their preferred hold and run away tactic may not sufy ... i think colombians ph presence and bettter ball possesion plus huge home adv shall be huge factor ...
colombia has great record vs albiroja yet at home is way worse than away at qualies BUT under pekermann helm they beat them in all 4 official outings with 2-0, 2-1, 2-1 & 1-0 scores .. imo this time it will be new one 3-1 !
Chile -1.25 @ 1.9 10.2u / over 2.75 1.8 10.7u / over 3.25 2.35 8u / over (4) 3.8 7u / 1/1 @ 2 8u / 2/1 2u / 1/2 1u / wg 8u
Similar to colmbia game only chile more pressured and with slight chances ...they need to win and score goals in case of a 27 points goal dif settlement .... fact is roja deserves better ..soemthing strange hapened at last fifa week ..perhaps confederations and off guardness took its poll ..but tthis side under macanudo was growin. since hitin headlines at copa centenario ... host will field off line up with valdivia and recovered hernandez .. while for tricolor everything looks like they are doomed and they know it .. new interim coach called many young and local players ... usually ecuador nt and clubs lower performance away ..this time pressure is huge on locals whilst they are supousedly out of contention ..that can be double sworded knife ... i think we shall see roja a vrsion that disposed of harder rival like uruguay or peru recently ... in agame very likely with goals ... 3-1 4-1...but then again, who does?Comment
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I watched Chile against Bolivia, and they were awful. Bolivia was twice better and win easily. It looks like they have a lack of creativity in attack. In second half they didn't create any dangerous attack, even one shoot on target.Originally posted by litost View Post
They didn't score in their last 4 games,and the first match between these two finished 3:0 for Ecuador.
Because of situation where Chile must win and score some golas,maybe the smartest bet will be BTS.
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I see clear value in Bolivia DNB, and double chance. Brazil didn't win in La PAz since many many years, also teams don't like to play at high altitude. Travel will be problem for sure, as players from Europe will have to travel across the Antlantic, be in Brazil for some time and then long travel to Bolivia and then go back to home for last round. Thats a lot of travel and of course Brazil is already qualified and won't have much motivation here. Bolivians pick every point at home at have won three in a row at home.Comment
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Took Bolivia @ 4.74. As several have said, it is not a great venue for the Brazilians, plus they've long since qualified top of the group, plus their last match on Wednesday is a revenge game against Chile, their only defeat, and who they'd love to beat at home and prevent them from qualifying. Brazil can't possibly be that interested in this match."Get on me, Bert -- I can't lose!!!"
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What a stupid coach this Sampaoli lol, you have Icardi (who apparently had a minor injury, but I've seen him training) and Dybala on the bench, you need to win, you start with two first time players in the national team Benedetto and Gomez and you add subs like Gago and Rigoni
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Apparently they have the advantage anyway because stupid Colombia blew a 1-0 lead and lost 1-2, in the last match Peru will play against Colombia who need to take something from the game, but Argentina still need to beat Ecuador. I'm not sure about that now.
Higuain or Icardi in one leg would have scored those chances missed by beneshit and gomeshit
So:
Colombia at 4th place has 26 points and Peru at 5th place has 25 points, Colombia and Peru play each other for their next game. Regardless of what happens in Colombia vs Peru, as long as Argentina wins, they will be in the top 5 teams. If Colombia vs Peru is a tie, with 28 points Argentina can even qualify directly.
or simple: Argentina win, it will have 28. Colombia and Peru are playing each other; the loser will be out. If they draw, Peru is out.Last edited by inv; 06-10-17, 03:57.Comment
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This has definitely been the most retarded coaching I have ever seen in my life. Starting without Dybala and Icardi. Playing some pokemons like Dario Benedetto, Acosta and Alejandro Gomez.
Di Maria gets injured and he subs him with motherf.cking Riggioni.
Second substition is motherf.cking Gago (), who gets injured few minutes later. Argentina playing practically without a right flank in 2nd half (motherf.cking Riggioni).
The bald moron said "Dybala is interfering with Messi's playing space, that's why he is benched". And guess what happened? Peruvians encircled Messi and didn't give him any space, while the rest of Argentina midfield consisted of complete carpenters since Dybala was on the bench.Comment
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argentina nothing new under sun .. it all depends on what ecuador feels like ...
its very hard to play at quito and even with young fellas ecuador may very well beat them ..
colombia was struckingly poor ... could not even kill game with 3-4 guys vs 1 ... well ..
what the hell teams like peru deserve to be at WC .. theyll defeat cafeteros ......but then again, who does?Comment
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Any south American you will ask they will tell you that Argentina will not win in Quito, they are utter **** in the altitude
Colombia, Peru, Brazil all won in Ecuador, if Icardi and Dybala play Argentina have chances.Last edited by inv; 06-10-17, 04:16.Comment
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To worst thing is that, they can beat Ecuador with 7:0, they still depend from other results, to be honest with goal difference 16:15 they are absolutely the shitiest team in this qualifications so far in the World, what a disappointment to be honest, they don't deserve to go to Russia next year.Originally posted by inv View Post
Now big question will they allow Messi not to participate on a such a big scene.
In 4 days we will know the truth .
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If Argentina win the match, they are in Rusia.Originally posted by Rozde View PostTo worst thing is that, they can beat Ecuador with 7:0, they still depend from other results, to be honest with goal difference 16:15 they are absolutely the shitiest team in this qualifications so far in the World, what a disappointment to be honest, they don't deserve to go to Russia next year.
Now big question will they allow Messi not to participate on a such a big scene.
In 4 days we will know the truth .Comment
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I'm pretty sure that Argentina will win that match, Ecuador is out. Also think that Sampaoli will field most important players in the squad, don't know why he didn't do that last night. But comments on Argies and their coach are hillarious and i agree. Really made my day.
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Why would he do that? The bald tactical "genius" might decide some new bright tactical moves. Here are some players, whom he might call to play vs Ecuador, instead of no-names like Dybala, Higuain, Icardi and Pastore:Originally posted by hashishmaster View Post
- Mauro Boselli from Leon
- Julio Furch from Santos Laguna
- Sebastian Tagliabue from Al Wahda
- Sebastian Saez from FC Emirates
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I actually think Messi played very poor last night and he should be dropped. Mauro Boselli is a much option than him, senor Sampaoli should definitely think about this.Comment
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