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morientes
23-08-06, 08:17
25 Aug 21:00 Besiktas v Konyaspor 1.40 4.00 6.50
26 Aug 20:00 Genclerbirligi v Ankaraspor 2.10 3.25 3.00
26 Aug 21:00 Galatasaray v Gaziantepspor 1.20 5.50 10.00
27 Aug 20:00 Trabzonspor v Denizlispor 1.50 3.75 5.50
27 Aug 20:00 Ankaragucu v Manisaspor 2.25 3.25 2.75
27 Aug 20:00 Antalyaspor v Sivasspor 2.00 3.25 3.25
27 Aug 20:00 Caykur Rizespor v Bursaspor 2.10 3.25 3.00
27 Aug 20:00 Erciyesspor v Kayserispor 2.75 3.10 2.30
27 Aug 21:45 Sakaryaspor v Fenerbahce 5.50 3.50 1.53


Odds From Bet365

ExtRemeFB
23-08-06, 12:46
Odds From Bet365

Honestly, tell me what your limit is in Bet365?

Anybody more than 10£ ?

Once you start winning, you will realize how lovely Bet365 and their odds are :wink:

I will write my picks and analysis this week to the forum on kick off days. I hope this is good news for some folks who are interested in following me for free :twisted: .

erhan79
23-08-06, 14:57
Interesting week 8O

Ankara and Kayseri derbies.... 8)

At a glance Trabzon and Besiktas look as favorites of the week...

Touho
24-08-06, 07:15
http://forum.bettingadvice.com//viewtopic.php?t=52782&sid=8794827d29271901ea3ddecd9a737d55

morientes
24-08-06, 08:33
Besiktas-Konya

Besiktas scored on 6.minute last week and then wanted to keep score.Denizli didnt make any danger for them and match was so boring...Besiktas has a problem of playing 90 minute football..they cant motivate all match along yet..But have good players to change the match.Delgado was shining again last week..He came from basel and will add more good things to team..Now Ricardinho signed this week and made the fans crazy hot...I wait full house this week and some tempo...Because bjk have good play and will play more good in 2-3 weeks...This week they will start this serie i think...Nobre is out again with red card ban.Also Ali Güne***351;,Mustafa and Serdar Özkan have injuries...
Konya have good team spirit and good plays but they always struggle against defensive opponents.Their still likes open plays.Nurullah saglam is glad with his team and want to take draw here...volkan cekic started training after long time...
I wait tough match but home win is big probability here.Bobo and Gökhan Güleç plays on up front and they can make it this week.Besiktas will open the ways this week.home win for me but maybe will use it in some combo.odds 1.45 only


Trabzon – Denizli

First 3 weeks Trabzon has 1 points yet..They have big striker problems.After Fatih Tekke they couldnt find a real striker yet..Marcelinho is good forward but not striker...They have only umut bulut and ersen martin...now after this loses Trabzon must win situation here...they missed crazy big chances against antep again and fans morale are very bad....they must win and give fans a gift here...Their coach lazaroni is very bad coach..dont know to give tactics in match time....I think he will be sacked in 2 months...
Denizli disappointed their fans since 2 weeks..they coulnt create position last week against Besiktas...Now they will be more unlucky that opponent is hungry Trabzon...playmaker Yusuf runs bad and this decrease denizli offenses...
I wait easy match with first half goals of Trabzon...Time to win for home team

9/10 Trabzon –1.5 hcp win 2.15 (Gamebookers)

morientes
24-08-06, 13:52
Galatasaray-Gaziantep
Galata played very bad last week against Manisa.They give many big chances to manisa..And luckily took a point there...Galata still has problems on defense on the road...Gerets always make mistakes on the tactic.But at home there is no problem with tactic..Team always play good and have superby runs in the opposite defense.Against Boleslav in midweek Galata wanted to keep first match score and won the battle with a draw...Galata played so defensively but boleslav hasnt got good offense like Manisa...Also Galata plays european matches with different motivation...Last week they lost 2 points and now time to win again...Arda played only 20 minutes on midweek and made assist,He will be the key player against Antep.
Antep wasn’t bad last week.They know playing at home,but also gave positions to Trabzon.It was about Trabzon’s motivation.they were losing 5 points and wanted the match on 2.half.but Antep made 2.goal on contra and finished the match.Trabzon’s defense is one of the worst defense on tsl....I wait here antep defensing and want to take a surprise goal...Zurita has slight injurie but can play....
Galata was superby against Kayseri at home and can make it easily...And after last weeks bad result galata will be bombing antep...Also morale of Champions League will give much spirit...I will bet on over 3 when market opens...

9/10 Over 3

morientes
24-08-06, 14:28
Genclerbirligi-Ankara

Gencler wasnt played good defensively last week,they give many chances to Bursa but also missed 2 big chances…they could win it but took a point.Now at home against other Ankara team they want to win again.Gencler has solid but not creative squad..But at home they create positions.Eren is injured and doubtful for his match
Ankara played very good last week wanted 3 point but after scoring they concede an easy penalty..Maybe it wasnt penalty but it made them unhappy…They will run again for 3 point.Aykut Kocaman said that they must work much for 3 points…Their captain Ramazan Tunç injured and cant play….I wait very tough match here…both teams can win it…


Ankaragücü-Manisa
Ankaragücü played good last week and was taking 1 point but conceded on last minute unluckily…This score made them unhappy but this can increase their motivation…Coach Bozinoski send Okan Koç and ***304;brahim Yavuz out of the squad…I wait very tough match fort hem..they will want to score here…Emre Güngör is banned for red card…
Manisa played crazy last week..They offensed like arabian horses against Galatasaray…They didnt afraid from the galata and match was played in big tempo…Also this big tempo made their striker Meduna ill…he couldnt breathe some minutes…went hospital..now he is stil out…Maybe he wont play football again…***350;ener and Sezer Öztürk still out...
I like Ersun Yanal’s way of football..he give different tactics for all matches…This way always good in football…I wait away win here…last week they missed 3-4 big chances but unluckily galata scored 2 times….especially zelenka was superby...and he can make trouble for a.gücü again...now Manisa will win i think…

7/10 Manisa win 2.80 (betsson)


Antalya-Sivas

Antalya is the only team that didnt concede any goal..They also couldnt score yet…Their defense is very good and they have superby Goalkeeper Cordoba…Antalya has new but good team and have hot coach Y***305;lmaz Vural…
Sivas was so bad last week…They couldnt win against 9 men Sakarya…this caused by sakarya’s super team press but i didnt like Sivas there…they couldnt pass and lost badly…Now against this good defense they cant score easily….
I wait under here…both teams struggle on scoring and home team will want to win 1-0…maybe 0-0 result…I will go for under

7.5/10 Under 2.5 1.75

morientes
24-08-06, 15:02
Ç.Rizespor-Bursaspor

Rize wasnt bad against Fener..They fighted 90 minute along…But they couldnt stop superby Fener forwards…Here there will be more positions for them…They stil couldnt win anytime and will want to crash Bursa…
Bursa also missed some chances against gencler..They played good in offense but made mistakes defensively much….here there will be rize domination but every result possible again…Rize has slight advantage of home support..



Sakarya-Fenerbahce

Sakarya won last week lastly…They were playing good already but earned 3 point last week with 9 men..they will be motivated much again and have good morale now…Sakarya transferred forward Ergin kele***351; from Trabzon this week for 1 year loan…Suat usta and Mbayo banned for red card…
Fener again eliminated from cl and dont have good morale…their big ambition for cl finished with big defensive mistakes…Their defense centres can and önder not good for this team…this poor defense decrease team tempo and morale..but fener always can win on tsl with this squad…Sakarya has good morale and can fight again…
With this 1.55 odds fener is no bet for me…they can lose here or maybe can win 0-4…it is very tough match to predict…if market goes for fener we can find some value for Sakarya double chance…no bet now…

kucukcoban
24-08-06, 21:06
First of all, thank you Morientes for good analysis and picks ...
And secondly, I am very happy to see ExtremeFb here again. Waiting his great previews and picks as before....

3/4
pick 5
Besiktas(-1.25)-Konyaspor(+1.25)
Pick: H
Odds: 2.08 @ Pinnacle
stake: 6

Pinnacle is offering very nice odds for such a handicap while Besiktas is preparing to show new transfer Ricardinho to their own stadium...

Lets start with the home team.
Just an idea for Ricardinho....I do not think team needs such a player at that time. Simply board and especially `head of the board`is an interesting man who likes just showing something without professional mentality. He has already stated that his main aim is avoiding Fenerbahce to be champion and actuaaly a man with such kind of responsibility would say that his main target was to make his own team champion. By the way, during the midweek the conflict between board (namely `manager`) and Tigana (trainer) continued. I do not think Tigana was happy to work with them but of course he is the the trainer who is being paid by the maximum wages...Those are some stuffs from outside the pitch , regarding the football, Besiktas is improving the organization week by week, however it does not mean they have no problems. Besiktas , with coming new transfer Ricardinho, added his pocket another problem about the structure of their squad and method of playing football. Now another transfer is needed to defense since it seems Tigana is willing to change the system a bit. MAy be something like 4-2-2-2 or 4-2-3-1 but Besiktas has not a poper defender for both....

And the visitors,
First 3 weeks showed us Konyaspor is expecting to be a mid table team this year. I can not see any positive change in the squad compared to last year. What is more, as well as i read, trainer Nurullah Saglam has some problems with the players. And late news say that Erhan Albayrak (experienced midfielder) was eliminated from the squad by the trainer after a conflict between them.

For tomorrow, three things will be determiner:
1. A great support at their own stadium will give extra motivation to BEsiktas.
2. Some players in the squad of BEsiktas is finding their expected forms like Delgado, Burak, Kleberson, Gokhan Zan ....etc..And Tigana has now against his board, i think he will show why he is needed and how he knows football...
3. Konyaspor has some inner problems and I can not rate them as a good away team.

This time handicap fro Besiktas win...

Good Luck...

morientes
25-08-06, 06:57
Most probable 11's for today

Besiktas

Runje,***304;brahim toraman, gökhan zan,koray,baki,burak,kleberson,***304;brahim Üzülmez,Delgado,Gökhan Güleç,Bobo

Konya

Özden,Yasin,Ömer,El Saka,Da silva, ugur,batista,sedat,yordanov,tayfun,Ahmed Belal

morientes
25-08-06, 07:08
thank you too kücükcoban..and good luck all....

Erciyes-Kayseri
Erciyes won 4 points in last 2 weeks and want to win again on kayseri derby...They play some team plays but not so good....
Kayseri have superby morale after Uefa match where they won 3-1 and eliminated tirane...They are favourite here but motivation can be low after uefa match..and this is a derby,they dont want to defeat...so i wait goalless match here...under is probability and also draw is an option...***304;f kayseri didnt have a midweek match i would go for them but now no bet for me...they can be tired...

morientes
25-08-06, 11:51
Most probable 11's for today

Besiktas

Runje,***304;brahim toraman, gökhan zan,koray,baki,burak,kleberson,***304;brahim Üzülmez,Delgado,Gökhan Güleç,Bobo

Konya

Özden,Yasin,Ömer,El Saka,Da silva, ugur,batista,sedat,yordanov,tayfun,Ahmed Belal


Gökhan Güleç was on doubt after yesterday' training...And now he is out of match squad...it is bad news...burak can play on striker position maybe..

LuckyLuke
25-08-06, 12:13
thanks for the good previews morientes. I agree with you in most.

I think Trabzon is the banker of the week.

Touho
25-08-06, 12:31
I just want to remind Luckyluke that Tranzonspor -1 is not 2,25 at Expekt, since there is draw option, so if Trabzonspor wins by 1 goal, you loose whole stake.

YAMAN
25-08-06, 13:39
I am interested in Antalyaspor game this weekend.

Antalya did not lose any game and did not concede or scored any goals so far in the last 3 weeks.Seems like defense will be their best part. On the other hand as most of you know, Sivasspor is a typical "under" team. No need for any other exp. since the game speaks for itself.

Under 2.5 @1.75 in Sportingbet 10/10

erhan79
25-08-06, 13:50
Ali Cansun new striker of Antalyaspor probably play thei week... They hope he will solve their scoring problem

fener442
25-08-06, 18:12
I am interested in Antalyaspor game this weekend.

Antalya did not lose any game and did not concede or scored any goals so far in the last 3 weeks.Seems like defense will be their best part. On the other hand as most of you know, Sivasspor is a typical "under" team. No need for any other exp. since the game speaks for itself.

Under 2.5 @1.75 in Sportingbet 10/10

I agree with YAMAN. 1.75 for under is superb. Antalyaspor defense is very stable and temperature will be extremely high in Antalya, which definately affects scoring.

ORKA746
26-08-06, 02:22
LAST MACTHES GALATASARAY VS GAZIANTEPSPOR
5 of the 6 match is over 2.5 goals..i think this match will be the same...in my opinion result will be 3-1 for galatasaray..its a fanatsy but...its obvious that , this match will be over....
good luck. :wink: :wink: :wink:


17/08/2003 TSL Gaziantepspor 1 - 2 Galatasaray
31/01/2004 TSL Galatasaray 3 - 0 Gaziantepspor
13/08/2004 TSL Gaziantepspor 1 - 0 Galatasaray
04/02/2005 TSL Galatasaray 5 - 1 Gaziantepspor
26/08/2005 TSL Gaziantepspor 2 - 2 Galatasaray
12/02/2006 TSL Galatasaray 6 - 0 Gaziantepspor

BAMBOOCHA
26-08-06, 13:40
I am interested in Antalyaspor game this weekend.

Antalya did not lose any game and did not concede or scored any goals so far in the last 3 weeks.Seems like defense will be their best part. On the other hand as most of you know, Sivasspor is a typical "under" team. No need for any other exp. since the game speaks for itself.

Under 2.5 @1.75 in Sportingbet 10/10

I agree with you. Under for this match is a good choose.

LuckyLuke
26-08-06, 13:47
I just want to remind Luckyluke that Tranzonspor -1 is not 2,25 at Expekt, since there is draw option, so if Trabzonspor wins by 1 goal, you loose whole stake.

it is, as I also meant 2 goal win by TS but I think due to a system failure my picks are deleted now, I am rewriting that..

BAMBOOCHA
26-08-06, 13:57
I wil bet on over 2,5 Galatasray-Gaziantep... I will go for under Antalya-Sivas --- and i think Genclerbirligi will win 2-0 in Ankara... :wink:

LuckyLuke
26-08-06, 13:58
I am interested in Antalyaspor game this weekend.

Antalya did not lose any game and did not concede or scored any goals so far in the last 3 weeks.Seems like defense will be their best part. On the other hand as most of you know, Sivasspor is a typical "under" team. No need for any other exp. since the game speaks for itself.

Under 2.5 @1.75 in Sportingbet 10/10

I agree with you. Under for this match is a good choose.

I think no bet on this one. Because Antalyaspor has played 2 of their 3 games away. And Sivasspor is really weak in defence. They have conceeded 2 goals from 9 man last week. So, I think Antalya win is more probable than under, but I am not betting on this one.. Consider twice..

Talento
26-08-06, 14:40
What about Erciye-Kayseri?

I think Kayseri is a good team with a talented coach and a very good striker.Both teams use the same ground and i think Kayseri is playable at prices +2.40.For me this is the bet of the weekend in Turkey...

LuckyLuke
26-08-06, 15:13
it may be a good pick, but keep in mind that Erciyes has one of the good attacking power in the league. Their defence is weak, so,in my opinion it is a hard match but Kayseri can be taken with low-middle stakes or surprise coupons but not a big bet.

LuckyLuke
26-08-06, 15:15
I wil bet on over 2,5 Galatasray-Gaziantep... I will go for under Antalya-Sivas --- and i think Genclerbirligi will win 2-0 in Ankara... :wink:

as I said I don't agree with big bets on Antalya under, GS over is probable and Genclerbirligi won't win that easily in my opinion.

Touho
26-08-06, 18:13
2006-08-27 Trabzonspor (-1) - Denizlispor (+1) by: LuckyLuke (26-08-2006 14:55 CET)

Still wrong this by BA, it should be Trabzonspor -1,5.

I will check result of this bet :lol:

farnerud
26-08-06, 23:18
C.Rizespor - Bursaspor

I made good profit at over/under bets till now and this is my main bet for this week. Odds around 1.70 - 1.75 looks nice for two defensive minded teams.

under 2.5 goals

Antalyaspor - Sivasspor

I can't say that I don't agree "under" comments for this match. Antalyaspor played 3 goalless draws but this is not the character of their football, these results are casual. Besides this we don't have to forget hot weather. Last week people saw 48 C in Antalya.

Sivasspor played an interesting match against Sakaryaspor last week. They were losing 1-0 after the first half. Then a player from opponent saw red card after 56th minute and another one at 77th minute. Now it was 9 to 11 but Sakaryaspor were the team looking for a goal. After they missed 3-4 clear-cut goal chances Cangele scored a penalty goal and Sivasspor lost 2-0. Antalyaspor are favourite under these conditions but still not a reliable team for me.

Maca
27-08-06, 09:29
Trabzon-Denizlispor pick 1 8/10
Both teams started very bad this season and both teams have 0-1-2.
Trabzon have a strong team wich could fight for tittle this season but they didnt succes to win in three games.They played in cup uefa agasisnt APOEL and after 1-1 away they won 1-0 in last minutes at home.
i think that this win will give a moral for players and i think that will easy win over Denizlispor here wich will hardly fight for relegation this season again.
Trabzon play very bad but they succes to win over APOEL in last minutes of the game and secure position in cup uefa this year.
They started very bad this season and maybe bigest reason was that cup uefa game against APOEL.
Trabzon have a great team wich could fight for title but after 3 games wich played in league they have just 0-1-3 drawin only against Manisa at home.
Denizli is also with 0-1-2 and in next game they will play against Galatasaray wich drawed this night at home.
gl

Casstel
27-08-06, 10:49
merhaba! i'm interested in antalyaspor-sivasspor game and i wonder if some of you could tell me if both of sivasspors homegames were played at a neutral ground?

Myname
27-08-06, 14:01
merhaba! i'm interested in antalyaspor-sivasspor game and i wonder if some of you could tell me if both of sivasspors homegames were played at a neutral ground?

Merhaba , my Bosnian brother , i could not understand completely what you meant by the question , but here are the matches and places of the matches Sivas has played up to this week : 1. Week: Sivas- Gençlerbirli***287;i :1-2 ( Sivas ) 2. week :Ç. Rize - Sivas : 1-1 ( Rize ) 3.week : Sivas - Sakarya :0-2 (***304;stanbul -i.e: neutral ground )
Antalya neither scored and nor conceded a goal up to now ,and Sivas seems to be in chaos ( Board of directors asked for a report on the reasons of the failure from Karol Pecze ,the trainer ) home win seems logical but consider Sivas' desperate need for at least a point , Antalya's sterile 3 weeks and incredibly hot Antalya weather ...

Casstel
27-08-06, 14:36
thank you myname! i'm actually considering a bet on sivas X2 @ 1.85 at betdaq. reason why i asked is coz i read on another site that one of sivas home games was played on neutral ground (the one vs sakarya).

i'm gonna try sivas X2 with small stakes coz i bealive that there is more value. cant see reason why a newcomer who has failed to score in 3 opening games is priced at @ 2.15....

spas
27-08-06, 14:57
zekikum where are you ?

laranjinha
27-08-06, 15:08
Can someone post the lineup and tactic formation (4-4-2 etc..) of Trabzonspor, please?

Myname
27-08-06, 15:22
Can someone post the lineup and tactic formation (4-4-2 etc..) of Trabzonspor, please?
Jefferson,
Ferhat, Stepanov, Fatih Akyel, Celaleddin,
Hasan, Hüseyin,
Gökdeniz, Marcelinho, Yattara.
Umut
The problem with Trabzon is for now they can not take ultimate advantage of extremely strong attacking line , there a lot of reasons for that , main being they are used to playing with Fatih Tekke who was more than a mere scorer now they have a young very promising but limited ,compared to Fatih, Umut but they will sort it out but when i dont know...

laranjinha
27-08-06, 15:32
Thank you, Myname.

I hope they will take advantage of Denzil's weakness (i trust the members of this forum as i do not know the team) to finally score a lot of goals.

Marcelinho is top-class player, one to be called to the Selecao. How is he doing so far? On the other hand Lazaroni sucks.

I will take an over 2.5/3.0, what do you think?

Myname
27-08-06, 15:45
Thank you, Myname.

I hope they will take advantage of Denzil's weakness (i trust the members of this forum as i do not know the team) to finally score a lot of goals.

Marcelinho is top-class player, one to be called to the Selecao. How is he doing so far? On the other hand Lazaroni sucks.

I will take an over 2.5/3.0, what do you think?
Not that important , he is trying to repay for his pay paycheck and trying unnecessarily( since everyone knows his career ) hard to prove his worth , i guess, this is causing some trouble but as i said everything is gonna be fine for both Trabzon and him after the all this dust has settled ...i agree with your comment on Lazaroni his passport not his brain is earning him jobs ...

zekikum
27-08-06, 17:22
zekikum where are you ?

here i am... :wink:

since there are a lot of picks on main page by our respectable turkish tipsters i decided not to take any official one for this week...
but i would back underdogs.... here are my thougts...

Sakaryaspor-Fener

Sakaryaspor is a team of city called Sakarya and they have hot fans out there, very good supporters actually. Fener is out morale, Sakarya plays good counter attack with Changale (very fast and quick) this Fener defence can have some problem with him... if we dont see any very funny ref mistakes homewin is more possible than odds suggest! some can call it fantasy bet but i will take it.
pick: 1, stake: 2
pick 1x, stake: 3

Antalya-Sivas

Away win has value here.. Sivas squad are more close to play counter with Balili and Anderson 3,75 for away win is a value but safer is; X2
pick: x2, stake: 4

Other if i would bet picks;
Rize-Bursa 1, over 2,5

Ankarag?c?-Vestel 1, over 2,5
these have higher odds more than they deserve... Ankarag?c? not that bad now... Ceyhun, Ebbe can score any time...

as you see my picks dont match with other tipsters so no official bet or advise for this round from me...

good luck to all others...
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Myname
28-08-06, 08:25
zekikum where are you ?

here i am... :wink:

since there are a lot of picks on main page by our respectable turkish tipsters i decided not to take any official one for this week...
but i would back underdogs.... here are my thougts...

Sakaryaspor-Fener

Sakaryaspor is a team of city called Sakarya and they have hot fans out there, very good supporters actually. Fener is out morale, Sakarya plays good counter attack with Changale (very fast and quick) this Fener defence can have some problem with him... if we dont see any very funny ref mistakes homewin is more possible than odds suggest! some can call it fantasy bet but i will take it.
pick: 1, stake: 2
pick 1x, stake: 3

Antalya-Sivas

Away win has value here.. Sivas squad are more close to play counter with Balili and Anderson 3,75 for away win is a value but safer is; X2
pick: x2, stake: 4

Other if i would bet picks;
Rize-Bursa 1, over 2,5

Ankaragücü-Vestel 1, over 2,5
these have higher odds more than they deserve... Ankaragücü not that bad now... Ceyhun, Ebbe can score any time...

as you see my picks dont match with other tipsters so no official bet or advise for this round from me...

good luck to all others...
I now declare this to be the pick of the week...Congrat....

zekikum
28-08-06, 09:00
Thank you.. but i wanted to write Rize-Bursa 2, not 1 :oops: (Bursa was the underdog here).. its a mistake i just notice.. sorry for that...
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Myname
28-08-06, 15:38
Thank you.. but i wanted to write Rize-Bursa 2, not 1 :oops: (Bursa was the underdog here).. its a mistake i just notice.. sorry for that...
its fine for me i did not bet on TSL yesterday i just gave tiny pieces of info for demanders , Zaragoza let me down dramatically, anyways the thing is i never could have predicted these matches even if i was given the chance of making two guesses and u predicted all the results correctly...by the way thanks for the encouragement on Be***351;ikta***351; with handi...

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