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19.08.
Auxerre - Marseille 2.440 2.850 3.070
Saint-Etienne - Nancy 2.010 2.930 4.020
Sedan - Sochaux 2.470 2.840 3.030
Rennes - Monaco 2.460 2.850 3.030
Paris Saint Germain - Lille 2.280 2.910 3.290
Nantes - Troyes 1.763 3.020 5.270
Lens - Lorient 1.595 3.420 5.960
Le Mans - Valenciennes 1.917 2.950 4.410
20.08.
Toulouse - Nice 2.230 2.890 3.410
Bordeaux - Lyon 2.980 2.890 2.470
Here are my fair odds estimations of this round's over/under 2.5 goals bets:
Auxerre Marseille 2.58 1.63
Le Mans Valenciennes 2.87 1.53
Lens Lorient 2.32 1.76
Nantes Troyes 2.59 1.63
PSG Lille 2.59 1.63
Rennes Monaco 2.39 1.72
Sedan Sochaux 2.73 1.58
St Etienne AS Nancy 2.84 1.54
Toulouse Nice 3.29 1.44
Bordeaux Lyon 2.51 1.66
The point of posting these is to provide you with a point of reference for a further analysis of the total number of goals market. Knowing what odds the statistical analysis of past results suggests, you could modify the estimations given some additional data (injuries, weather, motivation, etc.) to come up with more accurate prices to compare with the bookmakers offer.
To see if what I am comming up here is worth your time vist the thread where the odds are verified. (http://forum.bettingadvice.com/viewtopic.php?t=40370&start=0)
hey ,
i am french and particulary interested in french football,
i dont really understand what the numbers refer to , for example:
Auxerre Marseille 2.58 1.63 , the 2.58 means on average Auxerre scores 2.58 goals per game?
thanks !!!
my5teri0us
18-08-06, 03:16
hey ,
i am french and particulary interested in french football,
i dont really understand what the numbers refer to , for example:
Auxerre Marseille 2.58 1.63 , the 2.58 means on average Auxerre scores 2.58 goals per game?
thanks !!!
Auxerre Marseille 2.58 1.63 means Lukasz's odds estimation in over under 2.5goals
Over 2.5 @ 2.58
Under 2.5 @ 1.63
maybe from his estimation, he'll find a value if there is a bookmaker offering Under 2.5 @ 1.75
what about PSG ? cant they finally get their 1st win this season ?
any missing playing in both teams ?
anotha mug
18-08-06, 13:58
lille have looked good where as psg haven't looked very good at all, see nothing that makes me think I'd want to be on PSG.
Shame it's not higher on bordeaux because I really think they could do something against lyon.
Will Marseille beat Auxerre? X2 are good bet here? What do you think? :?
Will Marseille beat Auxerre? X2 are good bet here? What do you think? :?
NO, 1X IS SURE 100 % ! :) .
Marseille won vs Rennes 2 0, good match but bad defense and lot of spaces 8O .
After draw vs Valenciennes and Sochaux, AUxere is very strong at home and they can't lose i am very sure :wink: .
1X Good bet but I will bet Auxerre because is **** at away : 0 0 at Sedan , Sedan miss lot of posibility ! Marseille is a bad team to away.
Last year, Marseille won at Auxerre and was a good suprise : lot of counters and auxerre miss 10 actions hot ! :o .
I go on Auxerre :wink: .
Auxerre @2.40 ( 7 / 10 )
Auxerre 1X 1.30 ( 10 / 10 )
tennispicks
19-08-06, 04:44
a qns to ask u guys
is PSG home same as lilie stadium?
i remember watching in champion league and lilie home was at psg stadium...
a qns to ask u guys
is PSG home same as lilie stadium?
i remember watching in champion league and lilie home was at psg stadium...
No, they don't share stadium. Lille stadium is just too small for champions league UEFA standards so they played their games at Paris.
Any info about match between Lans and Lorien?
Hi guys,
first of all, i want to say: Thanks jojo0807 :wink: :wink:
Yesterday i won with Istres Pick...yes, i know, this isn't right topic but i need to say it.
About today's matches, i have red macot's pick on Le mans Valenciennes; i'm not agree, his motivation is based on last year results not considering a real strenght of Valenciennes( his pick is for Le mans :wink: ).
I think this match isn't more hard than Psg game, so i don't believe in a clear home win, i'd rather bet on surprise X2 or only 2.
Any info about Sedan-Sochaux? And Lille, could be a surprise?
Auxerre -0.25 Marseille +0.25 1 ,1.962 , 1unit
Marseille is without their defensive midfielder Lorik Cana, he will be replaced by an unexperienced young player , thats a huge big blow because Cana's activity in the midfield is huge, for sure they will have problems to keep the ball today . Jean Fernandez (auxerre's coach, former marseille's coach) knows the weakness of Marseille and like it was said before it lies in the defense ; it is very unexperienced
PSG Lille+0.25 2 , 1.877 , 1unit
Everytime i can get a + handicap on Lille, ill take it. PSG is not playing well at all, although sometimes things are different at home for them , to be a favourite.
Nantes-0.5 Troyes , 1 , 1.73 , 1 unit
Troyes is still one of the worst team in this league , its simple as that , they were lucky to draw their last game , Le Mans couldnt hold their 2-0 lead and made stupid errors. Nantes should take their first win at home
Bordeaux 0 Lyon , 1 , 2.2 , 2 units
Bordeaux is underpriced , they never lost against Lyon last year. Also Lyon lost their best defensive midfielder Mahamdou Diarra , and they seem to be in a little slump as they couldnt beat Toulouse at home last week .
First of all thank you jojo0807! But Marseille is my favorite team like Bordeaux and there can be draw surely at Auxerre, it's sure the Bordeaux can have a draw too,but i don't believe that they can beat Lyon!...What is the best pick in this league? I can't find it! :(
Feb 05, 2006 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 0 - 0
Sep 17, 2005 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 1 - 1
May 15, 2005 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 5 - 1
Dec 11, 2004 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 0 - 0
May 02, 2004 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 1 - 1
Jan 28, 2004 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 3 - 0
Apr 11, 2003 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 0 - 1
Nov 16, 2002 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 4 - 2
Apr 27, 2002 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 0 - 1
Dec 09, 2001 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 1 - 0
Maple Leafs
19-08-06, 17:41
Troyes will play without 4 important players. Three defensors and Amzine the playmaker.
Nantes played very well against Lyon even if they lost, and grab a precious point at Nice.
I will be definitely with Nantes tonight @ 1.80.
It's my main pick on my blog. Sorry, it's in french :?
Troyes will play without 4 important players. Three defensors and Amzine the playmaker.
Nantes played very well against Lyon even if they lost, and grab a precious point at Nice.
I will be definitely with Nantes tonight @ 1.80.
It's my main pick on my blog. Sorry, it's in french :?
Thank you very much!
Is it true that Rennes is without 7 players??
Maple Leafs
19-08-06, 17:55
Troyes will play without 4 important players. Three defensors and Amzine the playmaker.
Nantes played very well against Lyon even if they lost, and grab a precious point at Nice.
I will be definitely with Nantes tonight @ 1.80.
It's my main pick on my blog. Sorry, it's in french :?
Thank you very much!
Is it true that Rennes is without 7 players??
Where did you read that ?
Not really. only Monterrubio is uncertain. Only one player is different compared to the team at Marseille.
Rennes : Pouplin - Jeunechamp, Faty, Bourillon, Mbia - Cheyrou, Sorlin - Monterrubio or Marveaux, Hadji or Moreira - Briand
Thanks a lot!
i have romurs in Israel that Moncao is a great game today.. I guese not [:
Maple Leafs
19-08-06, 18:04
Thanks a lot!
i have romurs in Israel that Moncao is a great game today.. I guese not [:
Monaco will play wihout Kallon suspended.
Roma - Modesto, Sambou, Givet, Monsoreau - Leko, Plasil, Bernardi - Di Vaio, Gapké - Köller
skip this game, anything can happend ! 8)
Very bad auxerre , was a slow match , with no attacks but marseille was few better and score 1st goal in the 2nd half : Ribery scored after a good center ...After, they scored another goal and Auxerre took a stupid red (' Akalé ). Marseille scored a last goal by maoulida on a perfect action !
I prefer bet on L2 :roll: :lol: .
Tonight, i will be just on Nantes @1.75 ... Just one bet for be remboursed after Auxerre lose ! :x :x
Troyes will play without 4 important players. Three defensors and Amzine the playmaker.
Nantes played very well against Lyon even if they lost, and grab a precious point at Nice.
I will be definitely with Nantes tonight @ 1.80.
It's my main pick on my blog. Sorry, it's in french :?
Thank you very much!
Is it true that Rennes is without 7 players??
Where did you read that ?
Not really. only Monterrubio is uncertain. Only one player is different compared to the team at Marseille.
Rennes : Pouplin - Jeunechamp, Faty, Bourillon, Mbia - Cheyrou, Sorlin - Monterrubio or Marveaux, Hadji or Moreira - Briand
PERRIER-DOUBME, EDMAN, ADAILTON , MELCHIOT ,MENSAH ,DIDOT and ROCHAT - all of them will not play with rannes today.
All the 7 are 1'st choise for rannes in 11 opening lines-up, so what if they didnt playd against marseille..? this is not mean that they are not important.
Thanks a lot!
i have romurs in Israel that Moncao is a great game today.. I guese not [:
No rumors, there is TRUE info about the game. you can decide alone how to use it.
Auxerre is ligue 2 material , and Fernandez showed his coaching skills making his team play with no strikers
Sochaux seem a good price away to Sedan considering the decent start they have had to the season
I'm on small at 3.8 on Betfair :)
my5teri0us
19-08-06, 18:53
Le Mans vs Valenciennes
Quick pick before the game started (5mins left)
Since both teams have a lot of players missing through injury, i think +0.5 @ 1.91 is a bit of VALUE :lol:
I will put a medium stakes, 6stakes on Valenciennes +0.5 @ 1.91
Here r the list of injury of both teams :
Le Mans
8 LORIOT Guillaume DL * 18.8 OUT
13 LOUVION Cyriaque DMC * 18.8 OUT
14 LUCAU Chiguy SC * 18.8 OUT
16 ROCHE Rodolphe GK * 18.8 OUT
17 FANCHONE James SC ** 18.8 OUT
18 DE MELO Tulio SC ** 11.8 INJURED
26 DOUILLARD Martin AML * 18.8 OUT
1 PENNETEAU Nicolas GK *** 11.8 INJURED
5 KHARROUBI Khaled DMC * 18.8 OUT
7 BOURGEOIS Freddy AMRC * 11.8 INJURED
10 DUFRESNE Laurent SC ** 18.8 BACK from injury
17 PAAUWE Patrick MLC *** 11.8 INJURED
18 ROUDET Sébastien AMLC ** 11.8 INJURED
29 HASSLI Eric SC ** 11.8 INJURED
Note : Valenciennes has no new/fresh injury
Good Luck :wink:
Maple Leafs
19-08-06, 18:57
Troyes will play without 4 important players. Three defensors and Amzine the playmaker.
Nantes played very well against Lyon even if they lost, and grab a precious point at Nice.
I will be definitely with Nantes tonight @ 1.80.
It's my main pick on my blog. Sorry, it's in french :?
Thank you very much!
Is it true that Rennes is without 7 players??
Where did you read that ?
Not really. only Monterrubio is uncertain. Only one player is different compared to the team at Marseille.
Rennes : Pouplin - Jeunechamp, Faty, Bourillon, Mbia - Cheyrou, Sorlin - Monterrubio or Marveaux, Hadji or Moreira - Briand
PERRIER-DOUBME, EDMAN, ADAILTON , MELCHIOT ,MENSAH ,DIDOT and ROCHAT - all of them will not play with rannes today.
All the 7 are 1'st choise for rannes in 11 opening lines-up, so what if they didnt playd against marseille..? this is not mean that they are not important.
Thanks a lot!
i have romurs in Israel that Moncao is a great game today.. I guese not [:
No rumors, there is TRUE info about the game. you can decide alone how to use it.
Look at the stats before to talk about that !
First round :
http://www.sports.fr/fr/football/directs/2007/d1/25920/25920.html
At Marseille :
http://www.sports.fr/fr/football/directs/2007/d1/25926/25926.html
do you find a difference between the team who played at Marseille and this one today ?
The guys you have mentionned never started to play for Rennes this season...
what do you think about Tolouse-Nice?can toulouse win this?they have 3 absences but nice also has 3 absences.toulouse equakized last round away at Lyon in the last seconds so the morale i think is good.what do you think?
kum ruzvelt
19-08-06, 21:57
that idiots from nantes destroy whole europe tonight :twisted: :twisted: :twisted: ,they missed empty net in last second of the game.for me lyon and bordeaux is clear under game.
Troyes will play without 4 important players. Three defensors and Amzine the playmaker.
Nantes played very well against Lyon even if they lost, and grab a precious point at Nice.
I will be definitely with Nantes tonight @ 1.80.
It's my main pick on my blog. Sorry, it's in french :?
Thank you very much!
Is it true that Rennes is without 7 players??
Where did you read that ?
Not really. only Monterrubio is uncertain. Only one player is different compared to the team at Marseille.
Rennes : Pouplin - Jeunechamp, Faty, Bourillon, Mbia - Cheyrou, Sorlin - Monterrubio or Marveaux, Hadji or Moreira - Briand
PERRIER-DOUBME, EDMAN, ADAILTON , MELCHIOT ,MENSAH ,DIDOT and ROCHAT - all of them will not play with rannes today.
All the 7 are 1'st choise for rannes in 11 opening lines-up, so what if they didnt playd against marseille..? this is not mean that they are not important.
Thanks a lot!
i have romurs in Israel that Moncao is a great game today.. I guese not [:
No rumors, there is TRUE info about the game. you can decide alone how to use it.
Look at the stats before to talk about that !
First round :
http://www.sports.fr/fr/football/directs/2007/d1/25920/25920.html
At Marseille :
http://www.sports.fr/fr/football/directs/2007/d1/25926/25926.html
do you find a difference between the team who played at Marseille and this one today ?
The guys you have mentionned never started to play for Rennes this season...
Pal.. i did'nt said that they played this season!
This 7 players, all of them are from 1'st line up for rannes this season. Yes, they didnt played yet(and mabye because of this they have no win.. just 1 point), but this is not meaning that they are not important! they are not in the team for nothing, and with them rannes will play better, for sure.
If key player not playing for 2 games, so in the third it means nothing that he will not play...? no, for sure no.
laranjinha
20-08-06, 10:24
I would like to know your opinnion about
Bordeaux - Lyon over 2 @ 2.00 (ladbrokes)
I see a lot of value in the bet above. Lyon was very offensive last season and the squad is more or less the same. Fred is much better player than Carew, so i believe Lyon's attack will be even better. I know they did not scored to much in L1 so far, but in my i think it is due to the delay in the preparation of their best players which participate in the WC and arrive late. I believe this effect is over and we will see the old Lyon today.
I do not know much about Bordeaux, just that it is a strong team at home.
I believe each team will score at least one goal, so OVER 2 @2.00 is very good.
By the way what happened to Denilson? According to football365.fr he is not listed for this game, not injured and not suspended. Has he left Bordeaux? Where did he go?
over 2 does not include 2 goals , so at least 3 goals have to be scored in order to win , both team are more or less the same level so its hard to predict
tennispicks
20-08-06, 11:37
over 2 does not include 2 goals , so at least 3 goals have to be scored in order to win , both team are more or less the same level so its hard to predict
if it is a 2 goals result, which means it is a FULL refund btw. so only a 0 or 1 goal will ensure you of winning this bet.
laranjinha
20-08-06, 11:44
I certainly know what over 2 means :D
I would like to hear your opinnion regarding the scoring ability of both teams. I personally think that Lyon will score at least one goal. I do not know Bordeaux so much, but as a strong home team i believe they will also score at least one goal. So i have already money back with a chance to double it if another goal is scored.
Please comment.
What about Denilson, did he left Bordeaux? (Where is he?)
I certainly know what over 2 means :D
I would like to hear your opinnion regarding the scoring ability of both teams. I personally think that Lyon will score at least one goal. I do not know Bordeaux so much, but as a strong home team i believe they will also score at least one goal. So i have already money back with a chance to double it if another goal is scored.
Please comment.
What about Denilson, did he left Bordeaux? (Where is he?)
First about Denilson. Yes,he has left Bordeaux. But i dont know whether he has found a new club, cause long time he was free player.
Regarding the match. It is certainly some value cause its in the first rounds and not to many calculations will be done. Juninho is back for Lyon,but Carew and Ben Arfa will be absent, which makes Houllier to choose from Fred,Malouda,Wiltord and Benzema in the attack.(certainly great strikers). Bordeaux is without Smicer, but i think they got used to it. Repeating, i cant find reason for both teams to defend and i expect good, open game with nice chances, especially if Micoud and Juninho are starters. Over 2 @ 2.00 is nice , though i would go for Bordeaux DNB.
If Toulouse finishes under, ill try some small stakes on over at Bordeaux :lol:
laranjinha
20-08-06, 12:21
Thank you for replying, Darebt.
I think Carew absence is good for Lyon and for Over bettors :D
I like Micoud, he was superb player in Bremen, one of the smartest in Europe. Juninho is always dangerous with his long range shots.
I will go for over 2 @ 2.0 with medium stakes. Good luck with your Bordeaux DNB
By the way what happened to Denilson? According to football365.fr he is not listed for this game, not injured and not suspended. Has he left Bordeaux? Where did he go?
I think Denilson was on a loan from Betis. Bordeaux was to buy him or give him back at the end of last season, but his salary demands were way above what the club could afford.
So I guess Denilson is back to Seville...there is still talk that he could sign with Bordeaux again, lowering his salary, but Bordeaux seems to consider this trade as second hand solution...
Important midfielder Fernando is out and it is a big blow for Bordeaux. He is tall, powerfull, technical and Bordeaux has no good subs for him. They will field a youngster Ducasse, who is nothing special. Lyon still has a good midfield, and should have an edge there.
Bordeaux will have trouble scoring for sure as their offensive players ( Darcheville and Chamak) are average finishers, but Lyon also, as Bordeaux is a very well organised and disciplined team.
Can't see Lyon loosing this game. Low scoring game, dram or narrow win for Lyon..
First of all thank you jojo0807! But Marseille is my favorite team like Bordeaux and there can be draw surely at Auxerre, it's sure the Bordeaux can have a draw too,but i don't believe that they can beat Lyon!...What is the best pick in this league? I can't find it! :(
Feb 05, 2006 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 0 - 0
Sep 17, 2005 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 1 - 1
May 15, 2005 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 5 - 1
Dec 11, 2004 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 0 - 0
May 02, 2004 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 1 - 1
Jan 28, 2004 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 3 - 0
Apr 11, 2003 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 0 - 1
Nov 16, 2002 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 4 - 2
Apr 27, 2002 Ligue 1 Bordeaux Lyon 0 - 1
Dec 09, 2001 Ligue 1 Lyon Bordeaux 1 - 0
so history says x2 and under......hmmmm
i will risk for the draw here...
i will also try toulouse's win....
gl
paillasse71
20-08-06, 16:22
18H00 Toulouse-Nice: 2.20 2.90 3.30
Toulouse plays his first match at home after a defeat in Bordeaux and a very good draw in Lyon (1-1) They played the 2 best teams in France. Taider, Congré and Santos (tunisian goleador) are absents for TFC but Elmander and Fabinho very good in Lyon, are here.
Toulouse wants to begin his season really against Nice before maybe to receive Fabien Barthez (no contract) in his team.
Nice has some good new players (Moussilou from Lille, David Bellion...) but his opening of season is a deception: lost against Le Mans and a draw against Nantes. Absents in Nice: Kanté, Fauconnier.
Probable starting lines-up:
Toulouse: Douchez - Mathieu, Aubey, Arribagé, Ebondo -Emana, Dieuze, Fabinho - Battles, Elmander.
Nice: Lloris - Fanni, Yahia, Abardonado, Varrault - Rool, Balmont, Echouafni, Ederson - Koné, Moussilou.
Toulouse is 19th but one only first point is a bonus! 19th place is a normal thing but the team is not in his place... I believe in TFC and his good defence after their great result in Lyon. At home, they can't loose against Nice not ready on this beginning of season.
:arrow: Toulouse 1X (1,25 on GB) can be a good odd (confidence: 8/10)
Live (in french): http://live.football365.fr
This Bordeaux - Lyon game seems to be very equal but remember what lyon makes different then other teams from Ligue 1, they have fantastic Juninho which give them half goal when is free kick around 30 feet. Someone said to me that lyon scores lucky goals I say that it could be lucky one or two time in a season but one or two times in a match it isn't luck it is their way of playing. When Juninho isn't playing Lyon players seems to be lost and they run like crazy so at the end of a match players lost treir concetration and lose ball(like last game against Toulouse) but with Juninho they will not run like crazy people because they know that Juninho will have some shoot on goal and someone will just have to put reflect ball into net, I think that will happend today too. Best teams are the best when they need to be best on that level.For me tought and rought game but lyon win one way or another.
GL to everyone
paillasse71
20-08-06, 17:44
21H00 Bordeaux-Lyon: 2.90 2.85 2.45
Juninho will play tonight after being questionable... But Carew is absent. One month after the World Cup Lyon plays with the first team. For the 2 first matches the A' team (with Kallstrom Squillacci or Govou!) was on the field.
But today Lyon can not loose against the ambitious team of Bordeaux. If they loose the Champion can be 5 points of his adversary... Bordeaux is really OK actually (great confidence after 2 victories against Toulouse and Lorient, the first selection of Faubert for France...).
But on the paper the young team of Bordeaux is not at the level of Lyon. But the "Micoud effect" and the public can help the Girondins to beat the real team of Lyon that finally not playing together since the beginning of the season...
And Bordeaux will be at the top to win after the 2 errors last year (2 forgotten penalties) and the injust draw 1-1.... The motivation will be here for the 4th of the championship that dreams to beat the Champion!
And as we said, Juninho is not at the top actually and more important, the transfert of Diarra in Real (for 28 M) can be a problem for the Champions. He was an important piece in the middle of the team... But Lyon has the players in reserve with Tiago, Toulalan or Kallstrom...
Probable line-up:
Bordeaux: Ramé - Marange, Planus, Jemmali, Jurietti - Mavuba, Ducasse, Faubert, Micoud - Darcheville, Chamakh.
Lyon: Coupet - Reveillere, Cris, Cacapa, Abidal - Toulalan, Juninho, Tiago, Malouda - Wiltord, Fred.
Absents:
Bordeaux: Smicer, Fernando, Dalmat.
Lyon: Carew, Diarra, Govou.
:arrow: Lyon is better on this match but a lot of question in this team (the form of Juninho, the transfert of Diarra...) can change the future of the match... No Bet for me! :wink:
Toulouse did good job yesterday! Nantes is my anti-favorite, you know when you put on them, they plays such a children game-worst... :evil: Marseille and Bordeaux! The best! And you didn't believe me... 8O
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