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odds from Expekt
Saturday 29th, 15:00 CET
Rakuunat - Klubi04 4.10 3.35 1.75
Hameenlinna - MP 1.80 3.45 3.75
Sunday 30th, 17:30 CET
Viikingit - JIPPO 1.80 3.45 3.75
PK-35 - VIFK 2.00 3.45 3.15
Atlantis - AC Oulu 2.05 3.35 3.10
KPV - RoPS 2.50 3.35 2.45
TP-47 - PP-70 1.40 4.05 6.75
Before monday Hämeenlinna match at Klubi-04 dewilson wrote:
Hämeenlinna having deal with Tampere Utd and they are looking quite desperate now. Beginning of season was awful mainly due lot of injuries and now big reinforcements sent to team to avoid relegation. Gk Moilanen, Poulsen, Pellikka, Varga and Surrier are all decent players, maybe there will be more Tampere Utd players in this game, I dont have latest info yet. Hämeenlinna will be out from relegation zone sooner or later, they are midtable team at least with such rooster.
And Hämeenlinna won 1-0 away.
MP Mikkeli lost all 4 games since summer break with goal difference 0-12. Before last weekend MP home match against TP-47 Maple Leafs wrote:
was in the crowd against JIPPO. I never seen MP play so bad.
Each year i can see some games during my summer holidays, but this year MP lost at the last minute and NEVER seems to be able to win the game.
The attack is very poor without WUSU.
I don't know if il will play today. They don't score since 3 games.
The defense is so weak, and the keeper never try to keep the ball in the air in his penalty area.
And MP lost 0-4.
Hämeenlinna strenghen their squad with some Tampere Utd players now, MP cannot score not to mention win, so I see Hämeenlinna as clear favourite here and 1.90 offered by Gamebookers and bet365 as very nice odds. Or I'm missing something?
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MP Mikkeli lost all 4 games since summer break with goal difference 0-12. Before last weekend MP home match against TP-47 Maple Leafs wrote:
was in the crowd against JIPPO. I never seen MP play so bad.
Each year i can see some games during my summer holidays, but this year MP lost at the last minute and NEVER seems to be able to win the game.
The attack is very poor without WUSU.
I don't know if il will play today. They don't score since 3 games.
The defense is so weak, and the keeper never try to keep the ball in the air in his penalty area.
And MP lost 0-4.
Hämeenlinna strenghen their squad with some Tampere Utd players now, MP cannot score not to mention win, so I see Hämeenlinna as clear favourite here and 1.90 offered by Gamebookers and bet365 as very nice odds. Or I'm missing something?
Yep MP lost vs strong TP-47 0-4.
They played bad but also in that match their goalkeeper Naakka Jorma was sent off just after 8 minutes...
Just mention...
GL
TP-47 - PP-70
TP-47 Tornio have 6 wins in a row and 8 wins out of last 9 games, stepping firmly towards Veikkausliiga.
PP-70 Tampere is yet to be defeated after summer break, 0-0 home draws against medium strong KPV and Klubi-04, home win 2-0 versus weak PK-35 and away 3-0 win at recently very poor MP. That's their only away win, 1 point in previous 4 travels, draw against at that moment struggling Hämeenlinna and 3 clear losses.
Home win very probably here for me, not because that TP-47 is convincing at home( 5-1-1, 3 wins by 1 goal difference and 2 by 2 goals diference), but because of poor away performance by PP-70. I would call it not banker, but almost banker. If there is something similar to banker in Ykkönen at all.
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MP Mikkeli lost all 4 games since summer break with goal difference 0-12. Before last weekend MP home match against TP-47 Maple Leafs wrote:
was in the crowd against JIPPO. I never seen MP play so bad.
Each year i can see some games during my summer holidays, but this year MP lost at the last minute and NEVER seems to be able to win the game.
The attack is very poor without WUSU.
I don't know if il will play today. They don't score since 3 games.
The defense is so weak, and the keeper never try to keep the ball in the air in his penalty area.
And MP lost 0-4.
Hämeenlinna strenghen their squad with some Tampere Utd players now, MP cannot score not to mention win, so I see Hämeenlinna as clear favourite here and 1.90 offered by Gamebookers and bet365 as very nice odds. Or I'm missing something?
Yep MP lost vs strong TP-47 0-4.
They played bad but also in that match their goalkeeper Naakka Jorma was sent off just after 8 minutes...
Just mention...
GL
Thanks, I see it now. But week before that game MP lost at home to PP-70 0-3. No red cards and PP-70 is not so strong as TP-47, at least in away games - PP-70 apart that game have 0-1-3 away record, goal difference 1-12. And before that, MP lost 4-0 at Klubi-04, it's sole Klubi-04 win in 4 games after summer break, 2 draws and mentioned home loss to Hämeenlinna. I agree it would be wrong to draw conclusions only from loss to strong TP-47, but it's now 5 losses in a row (3 last by 3-0 or more), 5 scoreless games. I hope I'm more clear now. And if I am, thanks again.
Agree Silvio.
Btw I bet vs MP last two matches...
As I said..."just mention"... cause Hämeenlinna are also not from the best teams.
However would be nice if we can hear something more from our Finish friends.
GL
edit ps
At least MP have to do without their 1st goalkeeper today... :lol:
Very much points to Hämeenlinna's first home win here. They are considerably stronger now than they were at season start. The new players are all of good quality to this league.
The players from TampereU, Lindström and Ojanperä which played on Monday are uncertain yet if they'll play today. If they play it's a big boost for H-linna of course, because they are of Veikkausliiga class.
H-linna will miss Heiman who was injured in latest game.
MP is along with Rakuunat the worst team in Ykkönen right now. They have lost 5 games in row with 0-13 in goal difference. The lack of goals is due to the loss of their best striker Babatundu Wusu, he's injured and won't probably play today either. Gk. Naakka, who was send out in latest game, is suspended.
MP has a new player, American fw. Peter Louis who made his debut in latest game.
All in all, if H-linna won't win at home today, they will probably never do so. Seriously said, H-linna must be favourites and I'll take HW with 1.95 @ PAF. Odds over 1.8 is good value.
Rakuunat - Klubi-04.
The home team is the worst in divison atm. and will most likely be relegated. They have among the worst squads and it's even worse looking today. Their best striker Kiili got injured against Oulu and is most likely out, captain mf. Pasi Hovi is suspended.
Rakuunat's coach has said he'll make many changes to this game. Players who hasn't played much this season will get their chance to show what they've got, among them gk. Seppä, who'll make his debut playing from start.
Klubi is a bit hard to judge.They have so much movement in their team, so it's maybe better to wait and see which team they will field today.
Klubi is favourites and odds over 2.0 is available, but I haven't decided yet if to take it.
VetoVeljet
29-07-06, 07:38
To add something...
FC Hämeenlinna - most probably they will get not so many Tampere players as Tampere has away match tomorrow. Last week it was Lindström and Ojanperä but I doubt that both will be available. Ojanperä played few minutes against Inter on Thursday. Question - is Moilanen available?
MP - as stated earlier - gk Naakka is banned for 2 matches so poor team gets poorer.
Rakuunat - another poor team and now Hovi is banned. To add - Sivula, Kiili and Spets are injured... So no wonder why Klubi04 odds are coming down since yesterday.
VIFK - Glasberg and Holm banned.
Anybody know does Klubi have any players from HJK this weekend? Karra?
VetoVeljet
29-07-06, 10:43
As we stated in earlier topic - it is really hard to predict Klubi'04 line up's.
Normally Inutile, Parikka and Äijälä are with Klubi'04 but they were with HJK in Ireland - are they tired/motivated even they didn't play? Jussi Aalto is injured and HJK have match on Monday so because of these reasons I doubt their playing. Or maybe 45 min max.
Rakuunat - Klubi 22,9% - 26% - 51,1%
Hämeenlinna - MP 40,5% - 27% - 32,5%
Estimations are based on a pre-season ranking tuned with current success but those doesn't include injuries or suspension and I wouldn't trust my ratings too much as I'm just testing and improving the calculator.
Agree with Hämeenlinna pick here, they are better team than MP who is looking very poor at the moment. MP will fight back here surely to avoid dropping to relegation zone but Hämeenlinna probably will take win here.
Hämeenlinna @1.87 10bet 6/10.
Will Bah from KPV today play??
Will Bah from KPV today play??
Nope....Bah is still suspended for another match but defender Juha Reini should be back in the starting line-up which is a great boost as he's clearly one of the top players at this level.
RoPs will have a new Czech defender Aleksandr Stach available for this match.
Probably a very boring match to be expected. 0-0 wouldn't surprise anyone. My estimation is...38% - 30% - 32%
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And the remaining matches:
TP-47 - PP-70 65% - 24% - 11%
Viikingit - JIPPO 51% - 25% - 24%
Atlantis - AC Oulu 42% - 28% - 30%
PK-35 - VIFK 46% - 26% - 28%
So....TP-47, Viikingit and PK-35 seems worth of betting but better not to trust my estimation too much :roll:
Maple Leafs
30-07-06, 10:51
Will Bah from KPV today play??
Nope....Bah is still suspended for another match but defender Juha Reini should be back in the starting line-up which is a great boost as he's clearly one of the top players at this level.
RoPs will have a new Czech defender Aleksandr Stach available for this match.
Probably a very boring match to be expected. 0-0 wouldn't surprise anyone. My estimation is...38% - 30% - 32%
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And the remaining matches:
TP-47 - PP-70 65% - 24% - 11%
Viikingit - JIPPO 51% - 25% - 24%
Atlantis - AC Oulu 42% - 28% - 30%
PK-35 - VIFK 46% - 26% - 28%
So....TP-47, Viikingit and PK-35 seems worth of betting but better not to trust my estimation too much :roll:
Hum... I doubt really about the capacity to score for PK-35.
Last three games at home : 0-0, 0-0, 0-0.
VIFK is equal to host. May be the best pick will be : two team to score..
Alexandr Stach, plays low league in Czech, i think that is racial player of Slovacko... On second finnish league will very good player!
Hum... I doubt really about the capacity to score for PK-35.
Last three games at home : 0-0, 0-0, 0-0.
VIFK is equal to host. May be the best pick will be : two team to score..
Well....if the percentage estimation is 46-26-28 and the general home advantage is taken into consideration it tells that the teams are pretty equal actually.
I guess you've seen the teams play this season on your vacation in Finland so I'll trust your view for sure but PK-35 are a better team than the table shows I think :roll:
Maple Leafs
30-07-06, 11:12
Hum... I doubt really about the capacity to score for PK-35.
Last three games at home : 0-0, 0-0, 0-0.
VIFK is equal to host. May be the best pick will be : two team to score..
Well....if the percentage estimation is 46-26-28 and the general home advantage is taken into consideration it tells that the teams are pretty equal actually.
I guess you've seen the teams play this season on your vacation in Finland so I'll trust your view for sure but PK-35 are a better team than the table shows I think :roll:
I agree with you... But the thing i love is their website : http://www.pk-35.fi/
Fire everywhere. Hope it will be the same today. :P :P
I have taken this pick + the three speculative mentionned in the veikkaus liiga section.
KPV - RoPS 2 Odds 2.65 @ Centrebet
I believe RoPS should be small favourites here, like our local bookie has them. RoPS is over all the better team and KPV will still be without Bah as stated before.
RoPS has a very strong defense, their biggest problems lately has been in attack, they have two 0-0 games in row. RoPS has however potential to score with players like Peura and Saileti.
KPV has shown lack of form lately, mainly because of suspensions and injuries. The team haven't played with the same constellation in two games in row during any time of the season yet.
Their latest game was a disaster, 0-4 at home to Oulu and that game was on only 4 days ago, so the fresher RoPS will have an advantage in that way.
KPV is traditionally good at home, while RoPS often have problems playing away, due to the geographical location, they must travel long distances to their away games.
I'll take 5/10 stakes. Odds over 2.6 is of value to me.
The other games look pretty much like home wins, maybe PK-35 will be a good bet. VIFK seems to be in a downtrend and PK is better than current table position. PAF has 2.05 which is just playable IMO.
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