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gilberto2010
12-11-11, 19:47
Sorry, about opening it already without the odds, but I have to do it already, cause i donīt believe we will see these odds, when I wake up :D
Finland - Sweden
Fathersday and Finland-Sweden hockeygame in Finland. Apparently Santa Claus came earlier this year :).
Ok, last game for both in Karjala- cup. Sweden lost both matches first 2-5 to the Czechs and today 4-1 against Russia. Today Sweden played actually a pretty decent game. Everybody noticed that it was an afternoon game (13.00), because both teams had difficulties to get their engines working. At the end, russians quality prevailed much better and they took a victory. Swedes have lot to do against Finland, thatīs for sure.
Finns won today against the czechs 4-0. They were a mile ahead almost every shift. Finnish first line were dangerous in every shift and they scored all four goals. Finnish coach said, that the game was best game for a while.
This match is first between neighbours after WC final, where Finland beat Sweden 6-1. Normally this would be a perfect opportunity to take a revenge, but this time it is very difficult, even to imagine. Finland has been so much better during the tournament. Finland have allowed just one goal in last 120min, Sweden instead 9.
Finland has the best roster possible, Sweden doesnīt. This game will be very important for every Finn. Spectators will be fired up, because beating Sweden is the most important thing in hockey for every Finn :). So no underestimating is not possible. I am taking the odd already, cause itīs hard to see 1.9 odd possible of getting tomorrow.
This should a clear win tommorrow for the hometeam. They really want to thrash to Swedes, no doubt about it. Somebody would think itīs stupid to go full stakes again, but I see huge value, AGAIN :)
Pick Finland at Boylesports 1.9 10/10
Edit.1 Betsafe opened it also, Finland only 1,65.
gilberto2010
12-11-11, 20:45
Russia - Czech Republic
Russia with a victory wins the tournament. They won Finland 2-1 after penalties and Sweden 4-1. Czechs won Sweden 5-2 but lost 4-0 against Finland.
Russia and Finland have been by far the best teams in the tournament. As I said before, with a straight victory, they win the tournament. They have one major thing aswell. Czech played against Finland an evening game today. They have only 18 hours before the puck is dropped again. Russia will have much fresher legs for that game.
I think Russia has a better roster, much more motivation and "home audience" , despite game being played in Finland. I see value in Russia.
Pick: Russia 1.8 at Boylesport 4/10
Lääkärin veli
13-11-11, 11:16
You claim that this game is important to every Finn?. Certainly not to this one and not to the majority of finns. Icehockey is so small and marginal sport that that there is no magic or real sportmanship. There is far too many unimportant games and tournaments like this one. always the same four countries and no real competition. Besides bettingwise icehockey sucks also because the games often are without meaning, just boring business as usual.
gilberto2010
13-11-11, 15:15
You claim that this game is important to every Finn?. Certainly not to this one and not to the majority of finns. Icehockey is so small and marginal sport that that there is no magic or real sportmanship. There is far too many unimportant games and tournaments like this one. always the same four countries and no real competition. Besides bettingwise icehockey sucks also because the games often are without meaning, just boring business as usual.
Hmm where should I start :D
1. Ice-hockey is "bigger than ever" in Finland. The main reason is because we won WC and we host the next championships.
2. Ice-hockey marginal sport, oooh WHAT? Itīs always been the biggest sport for Finns and it will be. Thereīs stupid even to debate about it. If u have lived in a forest whole your life, u probably donīt know it.
3.Unimportant games?. As I said before weīre hosting with Sweden the next WC. If these games were unimportant why did our coach chose the best team possible? 16 last year WCīs, itīs important advertise that. Is it coincidence that the arena is full?
4. If u have something to say, please explain your points. Otherwise itīs no use to say these things, which are not the truth.
- Please look at the game, if u can. 13,5k people cheering for Finland, if thatīs marginal or boring i donīt know nothing about this sport :)
Finland 1-0. Granlund amazing pass and Immonen put the puck into the empty net.
Lääkärin veli
13-11-11, 16:33
[QUOTE=gilberto2010;1718240]Hmm where should I start :D
1. Ice-hockey is "bigger than ever" in Finland. The main reason is because we won WC and we host the next championships.
2. Ice-hockey marginal sport, oooh WHAT? Itīs always been the biggest sport for Finns and it will be. Thereīs stupid even to debate about it. If u have lived in a forest whole your life, u probably donīt know it.
3.Unimportant games?. As I said before weīre hosting with Sweden the next WC. If these games were unimportant why did our coach chose the best team possible? 16 last year WCīs, itīs important advertise that. Is it coincidence that the arena is full?
4. If u have something to say, please explain your points. Otherwise itīs no use to say these things, which are not the truth.
/QUOTE]
Icehockey is small and marginal game everywhere else in Europe and globally of course totally unknown. Only a finn living in the middle of forest can delude himself to believe that so called worldchampionship in a sport that is played only in a couple countries means something.
gilberto2010
13-11-11, 17:05
[QUOTE=gilberto2010;1718240]Hmm where should I start :D
1. Ice-hockey is "bigger than ever" in Finland. The main reason is because we won WC and we host the next championships.
2. Ice-hockey marginal sport, oooh WHAT? Itīs always been the biggest sport for Finns and it will be. Thereīs stupid even to debate about it. If u have lived in a forest whole your life, u probably donīt know it.
3.Unimportant games?. As I said before weīre hosting with Sweden the next WC. If these games were unimportant why did our coach chose the best team possible? 16 last year WCīs, itīs important advertise that. Is it coincidence that the arena is full?
4. If u have something to say, please explain your points. Otherwise itīs no use to say these things, which are not the truth.
/QUOTE]
Icehockey is small and marginal game everywhere else in Europe and globally of course totally unknown. Only a finn living in the middle of forest can delude himself to believe that so called worldchampionship in a sport that is played only in a couple countries means something.
Final post from me to this topic :)
What do you have against hockey? If u donīt like what are u doing here? hockey is not a marginal sport anywhere else. Yes, I agree that, football is bigger in most parts of europe. Do you think that hockey is a small sport for example in Russia? For your knowledge hockey is also played outside Europe ;)
You seem to love some other sports, (must be football). I donīt come here to share my negative thoughts about football for example. Unfortunately in our country there are some people who canīt enjoy if a another sport does well. I simply just doesnīt understand you.
If u feel bad, please go somewhere else to put your negative energy. Weīre here to make some money, not to hear some nonsense from a guy who clearly doesnīt know what heīs talking. I would have so much to say but this is not the time or place ;)
PS. I hope that we get into WC or EC sometime in football, I really do. I just hope you could be proud of other people not to be so da*n jealous :) Have a nice day :D
Lääkärin veli
13-11-11, 19:01
[QUOTE=Lääkärin veli;1718299]
Final post from me to this topic :)
What do you have against hockey? If u donīt like what are u doing here? hockey is not a marginal sport anywhere else. Yes, I agree that, football is bigger in most parts of europe. Do you think that hockey is a small sport for example in Russia? For your knowledge hockey is also played outside Europe ;)
You seem to love some other sports, (must be football). I donīt come here to share my negative thoughts about football for example. Unfortunately in our country there are some people who canīt enjoy if a another sport does well. I simply just doesnīt understand you.
If u feel bad, please go somewhere else to put your negative energy. Weīre here to make some money, not to hear some nonsense from a guy who clearly doesnīt know what heīs talking. I would have so much to say but this is not the time or place ;)
PS. I hope that we get into WC or EC sometime in football, I really do. I just hope you could be proud of other people not to be so da*n jealous :) Have a nice day :D
Well well, It was not me who took this little argument to a personal level speaking about negative energy and such nonsense. I was just stating a few facts in response to your absurd claim that "everyone" in Finland is watching and caring about this hockey game.
You can keep your illussions about icehockey being a serious sport in european level but fact is that in most EU countries hockey has zero visibility and is totally unknown. Second fact is that there is far too much meaningless games in hockey. For example this Karjala-tournament was totally meaningless to Sweden. They had maybe one or two players who would be in a serious national first team.
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