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Jokerit-TPS Under 5 goals 7/10
Pinnacle 2.11
Jokerit last 5 games:
SaiPa-Jokerit 0-1
Pelicans-Jokerit 0-2
Jokerit-Jyp 3-2(3 very strange goals that not happend many times in one season)
Ässät-Jokerit 4-0
HIFK-Jokerit 3-0
TPS last 5 games:
TPS-Lukko 1-0
Jyp-TPS 2-0
TPS-Lukko 3-1
Blues-TPS 3-4 OT
TPS-Blues 3-2
Jokerit - TPS
Jokerit missing Lahti and Eaves but they have big enough squad. Jokerit have turned things after they got steamrolled against Ässät. Six goals scored in their last five games is not much though but their defense has kept well enough.
TPS missing Salo and has doubts over Laakso and Stone. TPS has played Blues and Lukko twice in their last five games. They got well beaten in Jyväskylä against JYP and IMO should have also lost against Lukko in their latest game.
TPS has shown it`s biggest problem in their last game again as 1 scored in last games is not enough. Can`t see them scoring more then 1 here also and that means losing the game. Nobody will be surprised when jokerit scores two and wins but I see them winning this big.
HW for me. big stake.
Lukko - Kalpa
Lukko is a different fish on their own pond. Allthough their win against Ässät was not so much a good performance from Lukko as it was a bad one from Ässät. 8 scored in 4 and four of those against Ässät. They have lost twice against TPS and struggling Ilves away. Not really flying as it seems. Björn Melin looks like a player but the war needs more then one man. Lukko has the potential but something is not working there.
Kalpa has also played against the bottom half of thetable but they have looked pretty good. Their first line is firing but they should get some support and they would be unstoppable.
Away win is offcourse here the normal option but not big stakes as Lukko has got weapons to surprise. All depends from Kalpas defensive effort as I don`t think Kalpa will score many themselves, so they need to keep Lukko to 2 goals max to win. Maybe under 5 also. low stakes
JYP - Ilves
Jyp was a bit lucky in pori but their game has clearly developed in to the right direction. Ilves chanced their coach to their sports director...we`l see how that goes... but they were getting a bit better in their last games. In this game i see only hw as I don`t believe in any miracles concerning coach outings. Small mrgin home win but odds are also small margin. HW.
IFK - Ässät
Ässät in deepfreeze but you know what, I would but some coins on to them getting points here. Hifk has played rollercoaster the whole season but they are very tough team to beat, no matter what anyone says. Lundell in goal would be a reason to bet few more coins but can`t get over the feeling that Ässät will get back to playing the hockey they know. Last games from them have been lifeless performances without soul and maybe somekind of fatigue had something to do with that. Their foreign players have coolened and the supportfrom other lines didn`t work as planned. Armia will wan`t to show everyboby after he was put to eat popcorn in the stands. AW small stakes.
gilberto2010
01-11-11, 12:11
Hi!
My picks could be HIFK-Ässät over 5, HPK +0, Jyp and Jokerit but the latter two have such a crappy odds that maybe it´s not worth while. But for those who think that Ilves may have change tonight because the changed their coach I disagree. I think that they are more confused than ever (coach change was expected) cause their coach was not the expected one. Now they have this guy who coached 20 years ago. He´s been in charge of incoming players and I think they should have got a coach outside of the club but their finance situation (as many other clubs in Finland aswell) is bad. I think that they will lose tonight, but is Jyp -1,5 worth it? I think the odd for that 1,73 might raise , when people hear about their coach change so let´s wait. If we´re gonna see some improvement in their play, I am sure that it will happen in their next home game, not sooner.
HIFK-Ässät over 5.
We´re gonna see both teams ready for tonight. Ässät was very weak last week when they we´re defeated in all three games. They didn´t show their potential and after watching a bit of their last home game versus Jyp (0-2) they didn´t have the fighting spirit what we´ve seen in many games during this season. Luckily the week ended and now they are surely ready to get back on tracks. Everybody knows their firepower and they are more than capable of scoring in away games. Before last week, they scored 14 times in three away games and also let 7 goals during those games. I really see them coming strong tonight against always tough opponent HIFK, which is really a team they want to win.
HIFK is also a team with even bigger firepower. After world champion Janne Pesonen came into the club, they have two amazing attacking lines which can both do serious damage to opponent´s defence. Today they are introducing Daniel Fernholm from KHL, which can be a true gun for their powerplay, especially when they´re missing Mikko Kousa tonight.
Riksman will start for HIFK and Järvenpää for Ässät. It´s really hard to see them under 5 in this game. They both like to attack and I think we´ll see a lot of power-play tonight and goals. My pick over 5 at Pin 1,89 5/10.
Hpk-Blues. I can´t see this as a even game as Pin suggests. HPK has been improving a lot and played quite well at Kuopio but lost 4-2, cause they let 4 goals in the second period. Blues has been playing well, but has got more than they deserved. Ässät played their worst homegame when they lost after overtime and they also won 2-1 at home vs. KalPa, when they scored the winning goal about 20 sec. before the end.
It was an even game, where KalPa had good chances to score too. I think they have affected odds too much and HPK should be favourite at home. These games are those, which they should win. They are playing better and they have a really good chance to win. If blues would have lost those games HPK would be favourite and cause it didn´t happen, we have good odds for hometeam now.
IMO HPK should be a slight favourite, because playing at home and also because Blues plays quite bad at away and they are missing defender Kurki tonight ( not that important). We´re gonna see a lowscoring game where HPK is a minor favourite.
Pick HPK+ 0 at 1,952 4/10 and HPK straight win 2,52 3/10 both at Pin. GL!
gilberto2010
01-11-11, 12:37
I think there´s also value for Lukko. They can´t be such an underdogs vs. KalPa. They play better at home than away and they play usually better regarding how tough the opponent is. Already won HIFK, Ässät and Jyp at home. Important Björn Melin has played few games already and improving all the time. Lukko has a lot of firepower especially for powerplay so let´s try them. This is not a bomb-sure so let´s keep bets low :D
Lukko- Kalpa 1 Pin 2,86 2/10
gilberto2010
01-11-11, 13:15
Jokerit-TPS Under 5 goals 7/10
Pinnacle 2.11
Jokerit last 5 games:
SaiPa-Jokerit 0-1
Pelicans-Jokerit 0-2
Jokerit-Jyp 3-2(3 very strange goals that not happend many times in one season)
Ässät-Jokerit 4-0
HIFK-Jokerit 3-0
TPS last 5 games:
TPS-Lukko 1-0
Jyp-TPS 2-0
TPS-Lukko 3-1
Blues-TPS 3-4 OT
TPS-Blues 3-2
Otherwise would be a good bet, but Tuohimaa starting for Jokerit and clear first goalie kilpelainen not even in their roster?!?
Frans Tuohimaa 3 played game with stats 1.67 concended goals/game and saving% 94.25% and in last game against SaiPa 35/35 saves and man of the match.Thats enough because its sure that Jokerit coming to dominate this game.If Marek Shwartz could showed near as same performance than against Jyp(game that i watched) there is big chance that game end under.
gilberto2010
01-11-11, 13:35
Frans Tuohimaa 3 played game with stats 1.67 concended goals/game and saving% 94.25% and in last game against SaiPa 35/35 saves and man of the match.Thats enough because its sure that Jokerit coming to dominate this game.If Marek Shwartz could showed near as same performance than against Jyp(game that i watched) there is big chance that game end under.
After watching SaiPa- Jokerit match, I could have made 30 saves of that game for Jokerit. Eero Kilpelainen is future NHL- goalie and is many miles in front of Tuohimaa. Any goalie looks good, when Jokeirt is defending as good as they can.
Less than a week ago Tuohimaa was in the goal against Jukurit in Mestis (first division). He got changed in 5-1 situation and after 26 saves. I´m just saying he´s not Kari Lehtonen or Pekka Rinne. If Jokerit isn´t defending as good as they can, he might have problems. Imo he hasn´t been tested at this level yet :)
And we all know that there´s a big difference between Schwarz´s good or bad day. We´ll see, but I would have back that bet if Kilpelainen would have been goalie for the hometeam.
My point is not that Tuohimaa is superb goalie and he must keep this game low scoring,but because team like Jokerit give him chance to play...he cant be bad and now because he have good game behind him im sure he have also better self confidence against TPS.I have watched TPS awaygames and everytime they lack of get any big pressure periods on opponents goal in 5 against 5 game.If Jokerit keep out of penaltybox,i really dont see how TPS could scored more than 1 goal tonight.
...and what comes to Jukurit-K-Vantaa game i dont start to compared these 2 games in same day,because its totally 2 different worlds...he really dont get same help from K-Vantaa defenders than Jokerit...come on:)
gilberto2010
01-11-11, 13:58
...and what comes to Jukurit-K-Vantaa game i dont start to compared these 2 games in same day,because its totally 2 different worlds...he really dont get same help from K-Vantaa defenders than Jokerit...come on:)
Yeah, but my point is that he hasn´t been tested this level yet. If Jokerit isn´t 100% tonight, they might have problems. Tps is not a bad team at the moment and i don´t see Jokerit such a big favourite, ofc favourite.
Tuohimaa is from HIFK and he didn´t get a chance there and Jokerit got him there for this season. From what i´ve heard (might be wrong) they didn´t want him. I don´t know him that well but I´m surprised that of his level so far ( quite easy games) so this game could be a tough game for him. Depending how well Jokerit defends and how good is TPS´s attacking power tonight :cool:
Interesting game coming Rogumu ;)
Last words about this pick:).i dont really understand how tps can get more pressure away against Tuohimaa,than Saipa at home??i have seen toothless tps attack already enough many times:-)Yeah, but my point is that he hasn´t been tested this level yet. If Jokerit isn´t 100% tonight, they might have problems. Tps is not a bad team at the moment and i don´t see Jokerit such a big favourite, ofc favourite.
Tuohimaa is from HIFK and he didn´t get a chance there and Jokerit got him there for this season. From what i´ve heard (might be wrong) they didn´t want him. I don´t know him that well but I´m surprised that of his level so far ( quite easy games) so this game could be a tough game for him. Depending how well Jokerit defends and how good is TPS´s attacking power tonight :cool:
Interesting game coming Rogumu ;)
Pelicans is clearly overrated in the odds, Kärpät has great potential in their squad and they have won for e.g leader Kalpa away. Only thing that keeps from betting on them is because Pelicans lost their last home game when Jokerit left them to nil.
Jokerit to win seems like ok bet, odds like 1.5 (Betfair currently) are fair imo because Jokerit simply is so much better than TPS. By winning this Jokerit would probably go third in standings.
HIFK has clearly underachieved so far considering that their material is probably the best in the league. After shameful Saipa loss at home they have now two away wins in row, opponents were not the toughest though. Still I expect their winning streak to continue against Ässät which seem to be a little bit lost atm.
arctic circle
01-11-11, 16:35
Difficult round like all knows. But few good bet is still there.
HPK- Blues
Blues is very good and I see that they plays allways better and better. Lammassaari ja Kuusela changes place and Blues will try found more power in this game. Hpk:s net minder is Tolvanen and allmost all Blues players know him and how is better done goal back to him. HPK is playing good just now but I hear something blues sounds in their machine. Away win for me and middle stakes.
Pelicans - Kärpät
Pelicans is very good on home ice. They using their little rink very good and it is allways and almost all teams very bad place to take victory. Aravirta's Kärppä team plays too carefull and now time is too limit. Pelicans take all three points. Middle stake for me.
Opinion to other games
Jyp - Ilves
Hard place to start new series. Jyp didn't give mercy and nothing is change for Ilves so soon.
Home win. No bet because too many new things and anything can happen then. Odds is too small.
Hifk - Ässät
I think that Ässät can't take this one because their series is bad run just now. Usually Hifk plays good when they using Riksman on the net. He is one of best net minder in SM-league when is healty. Ässät coach Karri Kivi is not so experienced that I can trust him on this situation. I think that bad series go on. Home win.
Lukko -Kalpa
Very difficult to say anything. If Lukko plays good hockey all things is their side but sometimes nothing work. Kalpa is stability team and usually you can trust that they plays always very hard.
My guest is Kalpa.
Jokerit - TPS
Tuohimaa is not so experienced but under good defence all working. It smells draw and overtime win by Jokerit.
GL
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