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fiorano
06-09-05, 12:41
Maybe too early but u know whoever gets up early takes much way ...

Programme for bundesliga this weekend...
saturday
15:30 Gladbach - Duisburg
S 1,75 3,20 4,00
15:30 Hannover 96 - Frankfurt
S 1,90 3,10 3,50
15:30 Kaiserslautern - Bremen
S 2,70 3,00 2,30
15:30 Leverkusen - Schalke 04
S 2,40 3,00 2,60
15:30 Mainz 05 - Hamburg
S 3,20 3,10 2,00
15:30 Nuremberg - Bayern Munich
S 4,60 3,40 1,60
15:30 Stuttgart - Bielefeld
S 1,50 3,70 5,00

11.09.2005
17:30 Dortmund - 1. FC Koeln
S 1,65 3,30 4,40
17:30 Hertha BSC - Wolfsburg
S 1,75 3,20 4,00

fiorano
06-09-05, 13:17
The most interesting game is btw VFB - Bielefeld. I have been watching Trapattoni's VFB for a while. Although i am thinking positively about them they are not producing goods on the pitch.
In 3 games, 2 draws away, 1 loss at home. seems not challenging. Last seasons fixture ended in favor of Vfb 2-1.
On the other hand Bielefeld is not better with 2 losses against in form Hamburg and Bremen, a win against weak Mainz. not satisfying either.

Last week we saw Vfb challenging with Bremen. Under management of Trapattoni they should have been much more solid defensively. But they were not. And offensively they need creativity. I think they are missing Hleb. They still miss Cacau and Streller. But they included Daniel Ljuboja as a late transfer after these missings.

Bielefeld has some in-form players like Zuma and Krupnikovic but as a team they are not good visitors.


05-MAR-05 Stuttgart 2-1 Bielefeld Germany - 1 Bundesliga
03-OCT-04 Bielefeld 0-2 Stuttgart Germany - 1 Bundesliga

02-MAR-03 Bielefeld 0-1 Stuttgart Germany - 1 Bundesliga
22-SEP-02 Stuttgart 3-0 Bielefeld Germany - 1 Bundesliga

20-MAY-00 Stuttgart 3-3 Bielefeld Germany - 1 Bundesliga
17-DEC-99 Bielefeld 1-2 Stuttgart Germany - 1 Bundesliga

13-DEC-97 Stuttgart 1-0 Bielefeld Germany - 1 Bundesliga
05-AUG-97 Bielefeld 2-1 Stuttgart Germany - 1 Bundesliga

31-MAY-97 Stuttgart 4-2 Bielefeld Germany - 1 Bundesliga
07-DEC-96 Bielefeld 2-0 Stuttgart Germany - 1 Bundesliga

conclusion

OK. They have not made a good start. They need some time to gel as a team and to get used to their new coach. This international break was a good oppotunity for VFB to overcome their problems. If Tomasson can make it without injury from international games midweek, I am confident of a Vfb win over Bielefeld... Trapattoni must be aiming maximum points from bielefeld and mainz games and preparing his team for this goal. Need for a win, home support, a good manager, suitable opponent, motivation.. all the good factors are on VFB side. And i think price will decrease shortly.

Note: The opinions of Lakini and co. will be appreciated.. Thnx

kojic2003
08-09-05, 09:25
Hannover(1.93 at Betfair) is the best deal I've seen in 1.Bundesliga so far.Amazing price for such a big difference in class.Frankfurt are a very good counter-attacking side, but they've got no enough power to cope with Hannover's striking force IMO.Hashemian, Stajner & Co will be all over them for most of the game.Add the fact that Frankfurt first-choice goalkeeper Proll will miss the game.

mongrel_1
08-09-05, 11:00
I expect Gladbach to claim their first win but these odds are ridiculus. What have they shown to deserve to be such favorites? Only worth take them for odds 1,90 and above.

d3xt3r
08-09-05, 11:49
saturday
15:30 Hannover 96 - Frankfurt
S 1,90 3,10 3,50
15:30 Mainz 05 - Hamburg
S 3,20 3,10 2,00
15:30 Nuremberg - Bayern Munich
S 4,60 3,40 1,60
15:30 Stuttgart - Bielefeld
S 1,50 3,70 5,00
I think Hannover,HSV,Bayern and Stuttgart will win this weekend.
What do you think?Predictions for this weekend Bundesliga? :)

tigair38
08-09-05, 12:13
i took nuremberg against bayern as an outside bet - i got it @ 6.0 (intertops). history shows, that nuremberg played their best against bayern, who usually took this game light-heartedly. this is the one game every season, that nuremberg shows, what they can and i expect nothing less this time. bayern sits comortably atop the table and some players tend to relax, when there's a gap to the contenders.

small stakes on nuremberg

PrinzPoldi
08-09-05, 15:18
2 important things for the game etween nürnberg-münchen

mintal is out for nürnberg (last year best scorer, is always dangerous and able to score from every situation)

maakay is out for münchen (the same thing like mintal....)

these are two, for their teams, very important players which both arent' able to take part at the game on saturday........

i think there are more injuries or suspensions, but these two are the most important!!

it's hard to say, whats nürnberg and münchen without their best, best striker, but i can't see nürnberg winning against münchen, even if maakay is injured. and i think vittekt isn't able to work without his "partner"........

i think münchen will win, even without maakay, even without their best scorer!!!


nürnberg-münchen 2 8/10
nürnberg-münchen HC2 5/10
nürnberg-münchen Over/Under ->hard to predict, we don't know how these two teams will play without their goal-guarantee....will nürnberg play defensive, i think for sure, so it won't be easy for münchen to score....O/U anything can happen

juankaan
08-09-05, 16:51
15:30 Gladbach - Duisburg 1,75 3,20 4,00

I have big very big respect for coach Köppel... That's why i also support Gladbach this year just like the late weeks of last season....
Anyway, Gladbach with the Elber Fitness problem and with a very hard starting fixture like BAYERN MUNCHEN, SCHALKE 04, WOLFSBURG... could just get 2 points of 3 games... For me ENOUGH.... On the other side do we have Duisburg... A team that i not even strong to play for lowmid table...
Add on that Gladbach solved the striker problem. KAHE the top scorer of Ponte Preta.. The guy that was in many teams transfer list was traansfered.. he will probably start this week. So for me, GLADBACH WINS and gets the first 3 points of the season...
GLADBACH @1.75 for MEDIUM HIGH STAKES


15:30 Kaiserslautern - Bremen 2,70 3,00 2,30

Kaiserslautern with a solid team.. They did get big points. And they played great as well.. But to be honest my opinion is that LAUTERN's abilities are not that high that the points say... HALIL ALTINTOP and his friends were on great fire. And such great fires are usually stopped with VERY BIG UNLUCKY THINGS... It can be INJURIES... 1-2 RED CARDS... SUPPORTER SUSPANSIONS... or LONG BREAKS !!!! here do we have the problem.. The 10 DAY national break can cause trouble for KAISERSLAUTERN... I hope it won't but i guess that LAUTERN will not continue playing with 100% of their abilities.... So BREMEN with Klose-Klasnic a team with none offenive problem should get the points here..
BREMEN @2.40 for SMALL STAKES
OVER 2.5 @1.60 for SMALL STAKES


15:30 Leverkusen - Schalke 04 2,40 3,00 2,60

Leverkusen that faced big problems last season with the defencive injuries and the tactical change from 4-4-2 to 3-5-2 and Ramelow as centreback for some matches..... This change caused them play some OVER 2.5 matches and LOSES but when time passed did Ramelow learn his role... Anyway, this season did LEVERKUSEN start with their common tactic as well. But the defence line had big problems. Mainly very slowspeed defenders like Athirson, Roque Junior etc... Just Juan tried to control the defence but it was hard... After that for this match will ROQUE JUNIOR be out !!! Yes, he is one of the problems of this defence but still has huge airial power and even this is enough for his place in the team... So for this match will probably RAMELOW once more start in centreback.... And we have now an oppoennt full of HUGE MORALE players and GREAT OFFENCIVE ABILITIES...
Hamit Altintop; Played 2 national matches and celebrated the WIN over Ukraine.
Bajramovic; Bosnia won 2 games in row. Very important games...
Soren Larsen; Denmarks new star. Enrtered vs Turkey and scores the 1-1. Also scored 2 vs Georgia...
Add on Ebbe Sand, Kuranyi, Lincoln......
What can i say.. This OFFENCE vs Leverkusen's defence...
SCHALKE @2.45 for MEDIUM HIGH STAKES
OVER 2.5 @1.55 for SMALL STAKES


Good Luck..

zekikum
08-09-05, 20:25
i almost agree with j.k here.... only i wont bet over for leverkusen-schalke match but i will bet GG (both team score) cause 1-1 is a possible score for me...
i will make a combo;
Gladbach - Duisburg........ 1
Kaiserslautern - Bremen .. OVER
Leverkusen - Schalke 04...GG

Besides i am pretty sure we will see alot of overs this round and also bayern and sttutgart will win easily....
this year bundesliga will be more fun for sure really interesting transfers...
i think bundesliga will be more interesting than seri A

so they were the early opinions...
G.L....
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APOEL-fan
08-09-05, 21:23
nyrnberg playing with 19 year old goal keeper as the other two keepers suffer injuries...

JohnnyGuitar
08-09-05, 21:23
First of all, I want to say Hallo to all other users in this forum. I want to make some profitable analysis of the German soccer.
http://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/math/jizz/Images/Wappen/DEU/nuernberg.gifhttp://webrum.uni-mannheim.de/math/jizz/Images/Wappen/DEU/bayern.gif
1. FC Nürnberg - FC Bayern München 2 1.55 @ Betfair.com 1.60 @ Interwetten

It`s derbytime in Bavaria. Nuremberg receives the the record champion Munich. Nuremberg is a relegation candidate and Munich is of course the favorite team for the championchip. Last season Nuremberg was only saved the League because of the 24 from 55 goals by Marek Mintal, but he is injured. Of course on the other side there is allthough a very impotant player missin: Roy Maakay, but Munich has the abilty to replace him with Pizarro (81 goals in 171 games) and Guerro (6 goals in 13 games). Munich started the sasion very well with thre wins in thre games whereas Nuremberg lost 2 of their 3 game sand played one draw. They made just one goal this season and you can guess who made the goal? Of course the injured Marek Mintal :?

Nuremberg will play very defensivly so that this game will be very boring only 90 minutes against one goal.

Lets look at the last 6 matches of those teams:

14.05.05 15:30 Bayern München - 1. FC Nürnberg 6:3 (5:0)
04.12.04 15:30 1. FC Nürnberg - Bayern München 2:2 (1:1)
22.02.03 15:30 Bayern München - 1. FC Nürnberg 2:0 (1:0)
14.09.02 15:30 1. FC Nürnberg - Bayern München 1:2 (1:1)
13.04.02 15:30 1. FC Nürnberg - Bayern München 1:2 (0:2)
24.11.01 15:30 Bayern München - 1. FC Nürnberg 0:0 (0:0)
Munich won 4 of 6 games against Nuremberg and 2 of them in Nuremberg.

Against no other team Nuremberg lost at home so often as against Munich.
Munich won 6 of their last 6 away games.

kojic2003
09-09-05, 09:13
After that for this match will ROQUE JUNIOR be out !!!...

Leverkusen go into this game without the services of 6 first-teamers: Roque Junior, Freier, Krzynowek, Madouni, Nowotny, Babic.A bunch of youngsters will take a part.

On the other side do we have Duisburg... A team that i not even strong to play for lowmid table...

Don't be ridiculous. 8O Duisburg have a got a very strong side, with a bunch of experienced players even at this level.Kai Michalke will miss the game, but their attacking line still looks fantastic(Aziz Ahanfouf, Klemen Lavric and Markus Kurth) and with some very dangerous midfielders like Willi, Grlic, Peter van Houdt, Lottner or Alex Bugera, they'll certainly be able to cope with this poor Gladbach.The price around 5.00 for Duisburg win is a pure value.It's just a matter of time when Gladbach will be relegated.I give them two years maximum.Simply, they're getting no better.

Also, Arminia Bielefeld +1(2.00) is pick worth of shot IMO.Quite simply, this has to be a value against this Stuttgart.The hosts have failed to a take a single point against an injury/ravaged Koln side, so no reasons why certainly stronger Arminia wouldn't take something either.They're still a very good side, with some interesting players like Zuma, Krupnikovic, Vata, Rau,...,and I do believe they'll have enough for a positive result tomorrow.

fiorano
09-09-05, 09:33
During the international break i had some suspects over the possible injuries of the Hamburg team. But fortunately they all have returned unscathed. Hambur are still unbeaten this season. They are missing Emile Mpenza and Beinlich for this game. Both teams have uefa cup games mid-week.
No goals and no points
In the corresponding fixture last season Mainz gained their first ever Bundesliga win by beating HSV 2-1. This season, injury worries have exposed a lack of strength in depth in coach Jürgen Klopp’s side and they have failed to take a point from their three league matches so far, and have yet to score as well. HSV on the other hand is unbeaten in their last 12 matches including their successful Intertoto Cup campaign. The side coached by Thomas Doll leaked a whopping 50 goals in the Bundesliga last season, this season they have conceded only four goals in all competitions so far.

Mehdi keeps his place
The home coach is without seven of his first choice players including his promising young German striker Benjamin Auer. His HSV counterpart Thomas Doll is without his Belgian international goal-getter Emile Mpenza, who underwent surgery on a shin problem recently. The Iranian winger Mehdi Mahdavikia rightly keeps his place in the starting line-up, after producing a fine vein of form in recent games. Also out is the veteran midfielder Stefan Beinlich, who has a muscular problem.

Ziegler on the bench
New signing Reto Ziegler, who joined HSV on loan from the English Premier League side Tottenham just hours before the transfer window closed at the end of August, will watch the game from the bench, although he could come on at some time during the game. All of the HSV internationals who were on international duty during the week returned unscathed, so Thomas Doll is expected to keep faith with the side which drew 1-1 at home to Hanover in the third round of the Bundesliga.

Possible line-ups:

Mainz: 1 Wache - 28 Abel, 10 M. Friedrich, 4 Noveski, 24 Weigelt - 8 F. Gerber, 19 Babatz, 25 da Silva - 27 Thurk, 14 Zidan - 7 Auer

Reserves: 29 Wetklo (Gk), 3 Lichte, 5 Demirtas, 6 O. Addo, 9 D. Weiland, 11 Ruman, 13 Pekovic, 15 Romulo, 17 Rose, 18 Banouas, 20 Jovanovic, 31 Geißler

Missing: 7 Auer, 16 Markolf, 21 Casey, 22 N. Weiland, 23 Sela, 26 Bodog 33 Vrancic


HSV: Wächter - 20 Demel, 21 Boulahrouz, 5 van Buyten, 3 Atouba - 6 Wicky - 7 Mahdavikia, 14 Jarolim - 23 van der Vaart - 10 Barbarez, 11 Lauth

Reserves: 12 Kirschstein (Gk), 4 B. Reinhardt, 8 Karl, 15 Trochowski, 16 Klingbeil, 17 Ziebig, 19 Kucukovic, 24 Ziegler, 27 Laas, 31 Takyi, 32 Takahara

data from soccernet.com

Odds for hamburg are quiet good. I don't think the latest signings of mainz will suddenly change the situation and on fire Hamburg will get all three points without upseting me like they did in Hannover...

BORO77
09-09-05, 10:00
I dont like betting on derbys but Bayern looks very sure to win, even at these low odds it is worth playing. Nurnberg is very bad, specially without Mintal and with the 3rd goalie Schaefer. Bayern needs one more win to equalize their record of 13 victories in row. Makaay wont play but i think the other attackers will try to take their chance and score as much as possible. If the 1st goal comes early it could be a big victory like 4:0, 5:0.
I dont see FCN scoring.

Bielefeld took only 1 point in 7 games they played in Stuttgart and are very weak away from home so i think it should be easy home win but i dont like the odds and will stay away. BIELEFELD not to score looks not bad, maybe Trap :D will manage to keep a clean sheet?

Gladbach is ridicoulous at these odds, although they are strong at home and should be able to beat MSV but Borussia often struggles against weaker teams and takes point(s) against stronger ones.
Remember 2:2 against Bochum and 2:0 against VfB few months ago?
For me the draw looks very likely here.

Frankfurt has lost his last 8 away games in BL and 96 is waitng for 1st victory of the season. Cherundulo is coming back to the 96er team, if you look how many injured players Hannover have you can say they had a great start and i think home victory is one of the best bets this weekend.

Schalke has won 4 out of last 5 away games in BayArena and with Lincoln coming back after suspension it should be one more away victory for S04.
Specially with Leverkusen having injury problems. Anyway i dont expect a lot from Bayer this season, some good players but i dont have much confidence about the coach.
These teams rarely draw and i think Schalke will win without big problems.

GL

PunterHelp
09-09-05, 14:42
Leverkusen -Schalke

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Leverkusen are on a 2 game losing streak and have gone 4 games without a draw. Schalke 04 are undefeated in their last 4 games. Home side won only once here and lost the other 4 with a balace of 1-0-4. Home team Leverkusen have a home record of 0-0-1 this season (mercilessly crashed by Bayern 5-2), while away team Schalke 04 have an away record of 1-0-0. The visitors won their last 3 games on the road: 2-1 to Dortmund, 3-2 to Freiburg, and 3-0 to Bielefeld. My feeling is Leverkusen cannot win this one. Moreover Berbatov and Voronin are not on their best form.

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Pick Schalke +0.25 AH, Gamebookers @ 1.60

Tipster : Bobby
Pick : away@1.60
League : German Bundesliga
Bookmaker : Gamebookers
Stake : 10
Handicap : 0:1/4

Lucky_TOPSPORT
09-09-05, 16:35
Spieltag 4. Preview

Thank God for the Bundesliga. After a week of ludicrous Klinsmann-inspired tinkering with national team selections, we’re back to the far more pragmatic fare of domestic German football. Bayern Munich, the champions, are the last remaining side clinging to a 100% record after three matches. On Saturday they visit the Frankenstadion to face Wolfgang Wolf’s struggling Nürnberg in the first Bavarian derby of the season.

Ordinarily, such a game would pit the league’s most prolific strikers in direct opposition to each other, but Roy Makaay is out for the visitors and Bundesliga torjäger Marek Mintal is a likely absentee for the home side. Felix Magath is likely to push Peruvian Claudio Pizarro up front on his own as Paraguayan striker Roque Santa Cruz fights against a hamstring strain. It's a gin of a good side that they can win when under-strength, and I expect Bayern to edge this one.

Schalke 04, held by Borussia Mönchengladbach last time out, are on the road to Leverkusen to face a Bayer side under pressure from fans after a lacklustre start to the campaign. Coach Klaus Augenthaler is looking over his shoulder with fears mounting that his job is on the line. Ralf Rangnick welcomes back Brazilian Lincoln for the game and says: "We’ll go out to win in Leverkusen. Our aim was, after all, to stay in contention at the top of the Bundesliga right from the outset.“ He added: "It’s dangerous to conclude that Bayer are on the ropes because they have one of the best attacks in the league. Berbatov and Voronin are top strikers.“ If the Gelsenkirchener are serious about challenging Bayern, they need to win at a venue where the Bavarians chalked up a 5-2 win three weeks ago. Forgive me if I doubt them this time.

Werder Bremen host Barcelona in the Champions’ League in midweek, but must go to the Betzenberg this weekend to meet a resurgent Kaiserslautern who have won their last two games. Halil Altintop has laready netted six times this season and is bang on form. Bremen, with seven points to date, were held at home by Stuttgart a fortnight ago and remain somewhat unpredictable. All said, FCK look good for a point.

Mainz host high-flying Hamburger SV knowing they have no points and no goals to talk of after three fruitless games. Things are unlikely to improve on Saturday as coach Jürgen Klopp must do without seven first-teamers including striker Benjamin Auer. HSV are likely to keep the same side that drew 1-1 with Hannover a fortnight ago and should extend their unbeaten start here.

In Saturday's remaining fixtures, Borussia Mönchengladbach face MSV Duisburg, VfB Stuttgart go in search of a first win against Arminia Bielefeld, and Hannover host Eintracht Frankfurt. A home win looks the likeliest outcome in all three encounters.

Hertha BSC, beaten abjectly at Bayern two weeks ago, host Wolfsburg at the Olympiastadion on Sunday. Striker Artur Wichniarek is back after a bizarre drugs mix-up brought on by an insect bite. The Polish striker was treated with Cortisone to reduce body swelling due to an allergic shock. However, the substance is banned under anti-doping legislation, and the player looked condemned to sit out the next couple of weeks: "The DFB have given us their OK that Artur can play again", said coach Falko Götz on Friday. I'll be surprised if the capital club fail to take advantage of their good fortune here.

In Sunday's other game, midweek goal hero Lukas Podolski will hope to add to his solitary Bundesliga goal this season when Köln visit Borussia Dortmund. Having lost at the death against Kaiserslautern in week three, Köln need to show character to get something here against a side demoralised and continuing to wane.

Brian A. O'Driscoll, Berlin/GOAL.COM

sly
09-09-05, 17:53
Leverkusen - Schalke 04

Leverkusen faces a very serious challenge.On the one side they need to win,because the atmosphere in the club is not good after the defeats against Bayern and in Wolfsburg.A new mistake will bring them in the dangerous regions of the table and they'll want to avoid that at any cost.
However the squad problems are enormous.Madouni,Bracker,Krzynowek and Freier are injured,Roque Junior and Babic are suspended.This means changes has to be made in both defense and midfield.Juan,Ramelow and Rolfes (who is def.mid actually) will play at the back,a very risky formation against team like S04.
The guests started ok into the new season,but their performance was nothing special.The absence of Lincoln was obvious.Now he is back and i think too many hopes lie on him.He hasn't played in an official game for more than a month and we can just guess if he'll be able to be the creative centre of the team as usual.A bad performance from him can hurt S04 pretty bad.

Schalke looks like clear favourite on paper - good balance in Leverkusen lately,most valuable player back,opponent weakened by injuries,both teams going different ways in the table so far...And that's exactly what bothers me.Bayer will play absolutely motivated while S04 might expect an easy win.My feeling tells me Leverkusen might surprise everyone here.

Anyway,i expect goals,over 2,5 looks good,both teams to score is also very probable.Gamebookers offers 1.39 on S04 to score,which is way to high and can be used in a combo.

Mainz - HSV

Mainz is playing decent football,but they are just not dangerous in attack.The on loan-striker Zidan from Werder will probably start,but it's very unlikely he can hurt HSV's defense right in his first game for Mainz.The hosts will have to fight hard to even get a point,but they are not to be underestimated at Stadion am Bruchweg.

HSV is flying high,but sooner or later they will fall in a crisis.The early start of the season for them with the UI Cup and the many international players are a handicap.
First the games at various national teams,then Bundesliga against one on paper not-in-form team and couple of days later UEFA Cup - it's interesting to see if Hamburg's players can deal with this situation.

I expect a low scoring affair here.Mainz is having troubles scoring anyway and against a strong defense like Hamburg's,it will be even more difficult.HSV won't be as concentrated as usual for the reasons mentioned above.Imo they'll try to win without having to give everything.I give them slight advantage in this game,but won't be surprised to see a draw in the end.

Under 2,75 @1.901 10bet 5/10

Nürnberg - Bayern

Nürnberg's game of the year.Stadium will be full and the team wants to wipe out the impression from the previous games.Only 1 goal scored so far - by Mintal.He is a great player and without doubt very important,but Nürnberg relys too much on him.The opponents have to concentrate on him and half of the job is done.Now he is out and it can only be good.Other players will have to take responsibility and i expect better performance than lately.Motivation is sky-high for the hosts.

Bayern started very good,something surprising for many people.But sooner or later they'll have a small crisis,because the national players couldn't rest enough before the new season (due to the Confed Cup).The brilliant form of Makaay help them a lot,but now he is out.Pizarro can't fully replace him,he needs to find his own form yet.But Bayern is Bayern,if they happen to have a god day,Nürnberg can't do anything to stop them.

Stuttgart - Bielefeld

Sooner or later Stuttgart will win and it could be tomorrow.But not at these low odds.Bielefeld isn't as strong as last year,but they are still good enough to make an upset here and there.Tomasson is slowly finding his form and Soldo is back in the team.We saw in Bremen how important the old man can be.

I'm pretty confident Stuttgart will win,but it will be a hard game for them nevertheless.1:0,2:0,2:1 possible scores.No bet on 1X2,but under 3 is worth a thought,1.806 at 10bet

johnnybgood
10-09-05, 09:52
I usually not write in this section simply as i dont like to bet on german leage,
is siply to close and well leveled,but this season i didnt miss so i decided to write my thoughts. By now i betted on all stuttgarts games and didnt miss single one.So this round I am pretty sure that they gonna book their first win. They are imo better team that arminia ,things are getting setteled
I believe they will have enough desire and power for travellers from bielefeld. Odds are to low but still better to win t 1.55 than to lose on 2.25.

Other game as most people here is schalke against leverkusen. I think that Schalke travel for 3 points and that they have much more desire for those points then bayer,and if we ad that they are better team odds about 2.50 are great.

And third game K.lautern- Werder.I dont think that Werder can make it.They are overrated and odds on 1x about 1.55 are gift.

kojic2003
10-09-05, 10:08
Bielefeld isn't as strong as last year,

Both Krupnikovic and Zuma are clearly better players than Buckley, while Owomoyela...Well,...

The sale of Patrick Owomoyela is the best thing which happened to them.I have really no idea how this player can play for the German national team.He's poor even for 2.Bundesliga standards.

New signings Zuma, Krupnikovic, Rau,...,plus Massimo Porcello, Vata, Boakye,...,and you've got a very good side.

Path-Finder
10-09-05, 10:11
beielfeld very weeak and so do stuttgart but if i were not wrong, stuttgart were only unlucky. while beielefeld is really disorganised as a team. i think stutgart can win by a few goals easily.

TorontoMike
10-09-05, 10:32
is Roy Maakay playing for Bayern today?

rantaplan1
10-09-05, 10:34
History shows us that Schalke get big wins in Leverkusen.Especially today Leverkusen is missing lots of first team players Paul Freier,Ahmed Mahdouni,Jens Nowotny, Jacek Krzynowek, Jan-Ingwer Callsen-Bracker ,Marko Babic , Roque Junior.Augentaler has a real problem for this match.Schalke on the other hand has no problem and I think the odds for away win are extremely good!

wigaldboning
10-09-05, 11:36
is Roy Maakay playing for Bayern today?

No

pepepalotes
10-09-05, 12:09
Hi all, i read your picks, very good info guys :)

I made a conclusion, combo with bayern+shalke 04 @3,45

Do u think its a nice one??Dont wanna include stuttgart, i prefer a combo of 2 sure bets like i read and i think bayern and shalke are.

Any oppinions??Thanks

Oddsmoney
10-09-05, 12:30
Leverkusen-Schalke 04 over 2.5 9/10 :!:

Both teams has a very good attack and that means a lot of goals!

martinezZ
10-09-05, 13:17
Three bets for me, as usual two from them bets on over 2.5 :

Leverkusen - Schalke

Lineups speak for over here, Lincoln is back what will bring creativity in middle and good balls for Sand and Kuranyi, on the other side we have Berbatov - Voronin duo in attack. Bayer miss in defense Roque, and really all important offensive forces on pitch. Over @ 1.65 with 8 units

Nurnberg - Bayern

Away @ 1.57, not much to say about it, cause many argues were told, Nurnberg will miss Marek and that should be in derby real blow in offensive creativity however he isnt yet in form he was.

Klautern - Bremen

Strikers on both sides, offensive style of plays, last match with Stuttgart Werder didnt finished many actions well, now with Altintop on one side and Klose with Klasnic for visitors, I see here more then 2 goals in game.
Over @ 1.65

GL !

tennispicks
10-09-05, 13:29
I have placed a bet on asian handicapped Stuttgart -1 and Gladbach -1 after an extensive research

Jeries
10-09-05, 14:33
Kaan , Bayern Goalkeeper is getting too old people !!!

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 14:39
When EVERYTHING points to a goalfest....

Leverkeusen-Schalke. It's just not gonna happen :(

And Nurnberg weren't supposed to score :( :(

pepepalotes
10-09-05, 14:53
U dont see here shalke 04 and bayern winning??

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 14:58
I had Bayern to win to nil.

Schalke can still win but I'm bigger on the total goals market. They've had a few good chances but Leverkeusen are doing ok. Anyone's game.

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 15:01
At least Bremen know how to find the net. 3-0 :D

pepepalotes
10-09-05, 15:23
Will bayern and shalke win??:(

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 15:27
I'm not watching Bayern.

End to end stuff now in Leverkeusen. Must be some goals on the way

Bremen 3-0 was an error?

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 15:29
3-0 I see it now.

Schalke have had some great chance in the last five minutes. Goal on the way. I can feel it in my bones.

pepepalotes
10-09-05, 15:37
I'm not watching Bayern.

End to end stuff now in Leverkeusen. Must be some goals on the way




For which side??For schalke 04 maybe??please i need schalke 04 to win :(

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 15:43
1-0 Berbatov. Nice goal

ilunga mwepu
10-09-05, 15:54
1-1

who is pik?

picks365
10-09-05, 20:54
My pick from Sunday:

Hertha - Wolfsburg Over 1.75 at Bet365.

Good attack on the both side, I expect one goal from Wolfsburg and 2-3 from Hertha.

xaralas
10-09-05, 21:07
I have placed a bet on asian handicapped
8)

SUMADINAC034
10-09-05, 23:43
xaralas wrote:

8)

tennispicks wrote:
I have placed a bet on asian handicapped

:lol: :lol: :lol:

Path-Finder
11-09-05, 09:04
3-0 I see it now.

Schalke have had some great chance in the last five minutes. Goal on the way. I can feel it in my bones.not bad! but leverkusen is holding well.

pocoloko
11-09-05, 09:27
Borussia D.-Koln
Big problems for Borussia D.The two stars of the team,Tomas Rosidski and Yan Coller are very dubtful and they 're going to play only with a miracle.
For Koln Grammozis is out.

cotealos
11-09-05, 10:04
To our germans friends could I bet on hertha and borussia today?

Satyr
11-09-05, 12:24
I'm surprised there are no comments about today's matches (yet). I'm seriously considering Koln X2 or +0,5, Borussia hasn't started the season well and I think Koln can grab at least a draw. The public is seemingly all over Dortmund here, I'm not convinced.

A comment from a local (or an connoseur) would help.

Bigfan
11-09-05, 13:04
If you are really sure, that Koln can take at least one point from Dortmund, then i advice you to take AH 0:1 for 1.6 GB. Nobody wants to comment this match, because it seems to be very tricky.
Dortmunder coach is now under the pressure, his team needs to get their first victory. But at the other side Koln is no gift. They were really good in Stuttgart, they can counter and the D. defence is unstable. My feeling says, it can be the first 3 points for Dortmund in this season. But the fact is, 3 regular players may be wont play today:Koller, Rosicky, Dede. And this fact makes me some fear to bet for Dortmund. But the good news for Dortmund is, that the Stadium is nearly sold out. 76.000 tickets until today afternoon.

Starting Line-up: http://bilder.sportsandbytes.de/bvb/andere_Mannschaften/SpielfKoeln_1126273803.gif

and here are their past meetings:

22.02.2004 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 1:0
20.04.2002 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 2:1
19.05.2001 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 3:3
06.08.1997 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 3:0
31.05.1997 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 2:1
21.10.1995 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 3:0
25.02.1995 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 2:1
09.04.1994 Bundesliga BORUSSIA DORTMUND vs. 1. FC KÖLN 2:1

As you can see, Koln was always weak in Dortmund. Only one draw and no win.

JohnnyGuitar
11-09-05, 14:00
In my opion are those two games very easy to bet.

For Dortmund should this game be a sure thing. home win with a 1.80 @ Betfair.

And Berlin - Wolfsburg seems to be an over game with 1.75 @ Betfair.

bengale
11-09-05, 15:38
bvb-köln
i think köln has a good chance,because their supertalent podolski scored 3 goals this week(game with nationalteam against south africa).if rosicky,koller and dede are really aout or even just 2 of them then i think köln has very good chances.

Bigfan
11-09-05, 15:57
Wolfsburg without defeat in this season, Hertha needs to make a good game after a crucial defeat 0:3 by Bayern. the odds about 1.70 for Hertha win aren´t bad.
Over? Hm. It can be 1:0 or 2:0, i don´t know. Last season Hertha had great defence, this season against Frankfurt witt clean sheet 2:0. If Wolfsburg scores, it will be an over game.

picks365
11-09-05, 18:03
My pick from Sunday:

Hertha - Wolfsburg Over 1.75 at Bet365.

Good attack on the both side, I expect one goal from Wolfsburg and 2-3 from Hertha.

Wolfsburg didn't score, but Hertha made a very impressive 20 minutes at the end of the match. Lucky over, but over.

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