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Group A:
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http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/aus.gif Australia
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/ger.gif Germany
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/tun.gif Tunisia
15-Jun-05 Köln 18:00 ARGENTINA:TUNISIA
15-Jun-05 Frankfurt 21:00 GERMANY:AUSTRALIA
18-Jun-05 Köln 18:00 TUNISIA:GERMANY
18-Jun-05 Nürnberg 20:45 AUSTRALIA:ARGENTINA
21-Jun-05 Leipzig 20:45 AUSTRALIA:TUNISIA
21-Jun-05 Nürnberg 20:45 ARGENTINA:GERMANY
Group B:
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http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/gre.gif Greece
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/jpn.gif Japan
http://us.i1.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/i/fifa/06/flag/sm2/mex.gif Mexico
16-Jun-05 Hannover 18:00 JAPAN:MEXICO
16-Jun-05 Leipzig 20:45 BRAZIL:GREECE
19-Jun-05 Hannover 20:45 MEXICO:BRAZIL
19-Jun-05 Frankfurt 18:00 GREECE:JAPAN
22-Jun-05 Frankfurt 20:45 GREECE:MEXICO
22-Jun-05 Köln 20:45 JAPAN:BRAZIL
Semifinals:
25-Jun-05 Nürnberg 18:00 1A:2B
26-Jun-05 Hannover 18:00 1B:2A
3-4 place: 29-Jun-05 Leipzig 17:45
Final: 29-Jun-05 Frankfurt 20:45
SQUADS:
Argentina: 1 FRANCO Leonardo (GK), 2 SAMUEL Walter ,3 SORIN Juan ,4 ZANETTI Javier ,5 CAMBIASSO Esteban, 6 HEINZE Gabriel, 7 TEVEZ Carlos ,8 RIQUELME Juan, 9 SAVIOLA Javier, 10 AIMAR Pablo, 11 DELGADO Cesar, 12 LUX German (GK), 13 RODRIGUEZ Gonzalo, 14 MILITO Gabriel, 15 PLACENTE Diego, 16 COLOCCINI Fabricio, 17 BERNARDI Lucas, 18 SANTANA Mario, 19 RODRIGUEZ Maximiliano, 20 DEMICHELIS Martin, 21 FIGUEROA Luciano, 22 GALLETTI Luciano, 23 CABALLERO Wilfredo (GK)
Australia: 1 SCHWARZER Mark (GK), 2 MUSCAT Kevin, 3 MOORE Craig, 4 NEILL Lucas, 5 VIDMAR Tony, 6 POPOVIC Tony, 7 EMERTON Brett, 8 SKOKO Josip, 9 VIDUKA Mark, 10 CAHILL Tim, 11 CHIPPERFIELD Scott, 12 PETKOVIC Michael (GK), 13 WILKSHIRE Luke, 14 COLOSIMO Simon, 15 ALOISI John, 16 ZDRILIC David, 17 MC KAIN Jon, 18 KALAC Zeljko (GK), 19 CULINA Jason, 20 MILICEVIC Ljubo, 21 ELRICH Ahmad, 22 THOMPSON Archie, 23 STERJOVSKI Mile
Brazil: 1 DIDA (GK), 2 BELLETTI, 3 LUCIO, 4 ROQUE JUNIOR, 5 EMERSON, 6 GILBERTO, 7 ROBINHO, 8 KAKA, 9 ADRIANO, 10 RONALDINHO, 11 ZE ROBERTO, 12 MARCOS (GK), 13 CICINHO, 14 JUAN, 15 LUISAO, 16 LEO, 17 GILBERTO SILVA, 18 JUNINHO PERNAMBUCANO, 19 RENATO, 20 JULIO BAPTISTA, 21 RICARDO OLIVEIRA, 22 EDU, 23 GOMES (GK)
Germany: 1 KAHN Oliver (GK), 2 HINKEL Andreas, 3 FRIEDRICH Arnem, 4 HUTH Robert, 5 OWOMOYELA Patrick, 6 ENGELHARDT Marco, 7 SCHWEINSTEIGER Bastian, 8 FRINGS Torsten, 9 HANKE Mike, 10 DEISLER Sebastian, 11 BRDARIC Thomas, 12 LEHMANN Jens (GK), 13 BALLACK Michael, 14 ASAMOAH Gerald, 15 ERNST Fabian, 16 HITZLSPERGER Thomas, 17 MERTESACKER Per, 18 BOROWSKI Tim, 19 SCHNEIDER Bernd, 20 PODOLSKI Lukas, 21 SCHULZ Christian, 22 KURANYI Kevin, 23 HILDEBRAND Timo (GK)
Greece: 1 NIKOPOLIDIS Antonios (GK), 2 SEITARIDIS Giourkas, 3 VYNTRA Loukas, 4 TAVLARIDIS Efstathios, 5 KYRGIAKOS Sotirios, 6 BASINAS Angelos, 7 ZAGORAKIS Theo, 8 GIANNAKOPOULOS Stylianos, 9 CHARISTEAS Angelos, 10 TSIARTAS Vassilios, 11 PAPADOPOULOS Dimitrios, 12 CHALKIAS Konstantinos (GK), 13 SIFAKIS Michail (GK), 14 FYSSAS Panagiotis, 15 VRYZAS Zisis, 16 KAFES Pantelis, 17 AMANATIDIS Ioannis, 18 GOUMAS Ioannis, 19 KAPSIS Mihalis, 20 KARAGOUNIS Georgios, 21 KATSOURANIS Konstantinos, 22 GEKAS Theofanis, 23 LAKIS Vassilios
Japan: 1 NARAZAKI Seigo (GK), 2 TANAKA Makoto, 3 CHANO Takayuki, 4 ENDO Yasuhito, 5 MIYAMOTO Tsuneyasu, 6 NAKATA Koji, 7 NAKATA Hidetoshi, 8 OGASAWARA Mitsuo, 9 TAMADA Keiji, 10 NAKAMURA Shunsuke, 11 SUZUKI Takayuki, 12 DOI Yoichi (GK), 13 YANAGISAWA Atsushi, 14 SANTOS Alessandro, 15 FUKUNISHI Takashi, 16 OGURO Masashi, 17 MIURA Atsuhiro, 18 INAMOTO Junichi, 19 MOTOYAMA Masashi, 20 TSUBOI Keisuke, 21 KAJI Akira, 22 NAKAZAWA Yuji, 23 KAWAGUCHI Yoshikatsu (GK)
Mexico: 1 SANCHEZ Oswaldo (GK), 2 GALINDO Aaron, 3 SALCIDO Carlos, 4 MARQUEZ Rafael, 5 OSORIO Ricardo, 6 TORRADO Gerardo, 7 ZINHA, 8 PARDO Pavel, 9 BORGETTI Jared, 10 BRAVO Omar, 11 MORALES Ramon, 12 MUNOZ Moises (GK), 13 MARQUEZ LUGO Rafael, 14 PINEDA Gonzalo, 15 SANCHEZ Hugo, 16 MENDEZ Mario, 17 FONSECA Jose, 18 CARMONA Salvador, 19 MEDINA Alberto, 20 RODRIGUEZ Juan Pablo, 21 LOZANO Jaime, 22 PEREZ Luis, 23 CORONA Jose (GK)
Tunisia: 1 BOUMNIJEL Ali (GK), 2 YAHIA Alaeddine, 3 ESSEDIRI Karim, 4 ABDI Wissem, 5 JAZIRI Ziad, 6 TRABELSI Hatem, 7 MHADHEBI Imed, 8 NAFTI Mehdi, 9 GUEMAMDIA Haykel, 10 GHODHBANE Kaies, 11 SANTOS, 12 MNARI Jawhar, 13 NAMOUCHI Hamed, 14 CHADLI Adel, 15 JAIDI Radhi, 16 FADHEL Khaled (GK), 17 BEN SAADA Chouki, 18 BENACHOUR Slim, 19 AYARI Anis, 20 CLAYTON, 21 JOMAA Issam, 22 KASRAOUI Hamdi (GK), 23 HAJ MASSAOUD Amir
Hi guys. I've got a question especially for Germans. I have read that your going to play with very young and unexperienced defense. How do you think they can manage this tournament? Thx for the info.
Mulholland
13-06-05, 18:15
Brazil's Beletti has been ruled out regarding the whole tournament...
Germany - Australia
Klinsmann:"We can try to play more defensive and wait,however that's not our style.We want to score first and play offensive and attractive football".
Germany's first opponent is Australia.A team that many people write off too easily.Fans,the press,almost everyone here in Germany expects the Bundesteam to roll against the aussies.But imo it won't be that easy.
Motivation:
The team from "down under" takes the competition pretty serious.Their qualification zone is not very strong and the Confed Cup is the only chance to play against top nations in an official game.So Australia will be motivated to prove that they deserve to be under the 32 best teams in the world 2006.
Germany is already qualified for the World Cup as hosts and play only friendlies.Only official games for them are during this tournament.But it's not only the chance to have serious tests that is important for the team.A good performance and eventually a trophy here will boost the confidence of the players and most important create a good atmosphere in the country and secure the full support of the fans before the WC next year.A bad performance however can hurt the team very bad,because the press will start questioning if Klinsmann is the right coach after all,if the new course with young players is the best once etc.The national team will lose the trust earned during the last months.It's interesting to see how young players like Mertesacker,Schweinsteiger and Podolski and also the rest will deal with the high pressure lying on them.
Potential:
Australia is missing Harry Kewell and Marco Bresciano.It's not easy to replace two of the best midfielders in the team.Many hopes are lying on Tim Cahill and of course star-striker Viduka.However Viduka is not fully fit and his form is far from his best years.
The defence is also a possible weakness,most of the players are over or around 30 and they'll have serious problems against quick players like Podolski and Kuranyi.
Germany's problem zone is also the defence.Arne Friedrich and Per Mertesacker are solid players,but nothing special.Still,the second one is young and showing a lot of promise.However he lacks experience on international level.Hitzlsperger on the left is only playing,because Lahm is missing.He is not a defender and everyone saw that against Northern Ireland.Maybe the weakest part of the team at the moment.
The german midfield is the strongest part of the team.Schweinsteiger played a very good season at FC Bayern and is full of confidence.The two goals against Russia proved it.Torsten Frings is finally free in the head,his future is cleared - he is going back to Werder.In the national team he plays on his preferred position as a defensive midfielder and is Klinsmann's number 1 choice there.Not much to say about Deisler and Ballack,the first one is slowly showing how valuable he can be,the second one is the leader of team,extremely dangerous for opponent's goal.
Kuranyi cleared his future as well,so maybe we will see the old Kevin - the goal machine.His partner will be Köln's Podolski,very agile player,with no respect for big names.
Expectations:
Germany is clearly the better team and a good start in the tournament is crucial.If they play free,Australia doesn't really have a chance.However it's the first game and the pressure on the home team is extremely high.So i rather expect a nervous start from Germany.But i'm sure after a while they'll find their game and once the first goal falls,we'll see what this team is capable of.
Time first goal: 30. or later @1.85 (Interwetten) 2/10
1X2: Germany @1.35 (Interwetten) 7/10
Maybe i'll add some more bets on wednesday.
Australia: Schwarzer - Neill, Popovic, Moore, Muscat - McKain - Chipperfield, Skoko, Emerton - Cahill - Viduka
Viduka, Cahill, Schwarzer, Neill, Emerton,...
Even without Kewell, this looks like a very good side, capable to hurt anyone on their day.I like Germany, but their defending is really poor these days(come on, even a poor attacking side - N.Ireland managed to break their back four!!!Hitzlsperger at the back!? 8O ) and I wouldn't be surprised if they fail on Wednesday night.
Australia(11.00 at Betfair) is overpriced IMO.
Good morning...
Germany 1,
Argentina 1,
Parma 0-2, what do you think about this??? 8O 8O 8O
I think it doesnt belong here...
Good night... :lol:
GL
...I like Germany, but their defending is really poor these days(come on, even a poor attacking side - N.Ireland managed to break their back four!!!Hitzlsperger at the back!? 8O ) and I wouldn't be surprised if they fail on Wednesday night...
Yep, I know Kojic like Germany :lol: and if even hes said "their defending is really poor" I have to agree with...
But imo they will beat Australia, this way or another...
hmmm...for price 1.40... need to think twice...though
GL
But imo they will beat Australia, this way or another...
Well, I know Australia don't play too many big matches over the year, but this way or another they haven't lost the game for a very long time now. :wink:
I have no idea why people believe that Australia have no enough quality to produce a great performance.I remember some of their big games, like f.e. that impressive 3:1 win in England. :roll: Germany may have a big motivation as they play in front of home crowd, but Australia won't play for fun either, and coach Frank Farina has confirmed that:
"It's an incredibly important tournament for Oceania and especially for Australia. We don't often get the chance to play top-class nations in the context of a tournament, so it's a superb opportunity to test ourselves against the big names and prepare for next year's play-off against a South American nation for a place at the World Cup.
We finished third and then second in our last two Confederations Cup appearances. Maybe we'll come first this time."
Talking about quality of these two sides, there are no doubts who possess more class.The hosts are undoubtedly better in overall, but Australia have a lot to offer as well.Let's start with goalkeepers.No disrespect for O.Kahn, but Mark Schwarzer is simply far better and more confident these days.Undoubtedly one of the best Premiership goalkeepers at the moment.You never know with Kahn, but I really don't trust him this season.Defense?Germany are more than capable to improve their performance at the back, but it doesn't look that nice at the moment.They were terrible in Slovenia(the hosts could have easily scored 3-4 goals), N.Ireland(!?!?) found their net(I haven't seen that game, but this fact speaks for itself) as well as Thailand(!?) and now two cheap goals against Russia.In fact, some huge changes in defense are necessary if they're to make any big success in WC2006.Australia are far from being powerful at the back, but they do have a few quality defenders, lead by Blackburn guy Lucas Neill(anyone who saw Blackburn this season should know what I mean :? ).Crystal Palace player Popovic, former Millwall man Muscat, Moore(not in his best form though),...,are all the decent players.Not high-class, but surely capable to do the job.Midfielders?No much to say here.Both Schweinsteiger and Ballack are in terrific form and should be the biggest problem for the visitors.Definitely advantage for Germany, but the likes of Cahill, Brett Emerton and Skoko will also have something to say here.Attack?Honestly, can't see any advantage for Germany here.Kurany is totally out of form, while Podolski's usually struggling against any serious defense.On the other hand, Osasuna player John Aloisi(hit the net against Betis on Saturday) is extremely dangerous on his day and might be a key man for Australia if he get a chance.
Normally, Germany are expected to record at least a narrow win here.The quality, home advantage, etc..., but Australia won't have a bunch of amateurs on the pitch on Wednesday night and the away win is surely not out of question.
Btw, I also remember some of their impressive results on Confederation Cup, like 1:0 wins over Brazil or France(I know Brazil used some youngsters, but if I'm not wrong France had the likes of Vieria, Wiltord, Pires, Desailly, Marlet, Anelka,...,on that tournament), so they're not that useless.
tomjarem21
14-06-05, 15:50
Argentinien - Tunesien Mi., 18.00 Uhr
Argentina: Franco - Samuel, Heinze, Rodriguez, Milito - Sorin, Riquelme, Aimar, Bernardi - Saviola, Delgado
Tunesia : Boumnijel - Abdi, Trabelsi, Ayari, Clayton - Nafti, Ghodhbane, Mnari, Jomaa, Essediri - Namouchi
The Argentina team doesn't have big names in their lineup for the CONF Cup in Germany-no Crespo,Veron, Ayala etc., but still they have a great team that is able to crush world champs brasil in 45 minutes...so maybe that is a wrigth choice for the grat side that recently didn't have a lot of success. At the moment they are more of an European team not a crazy, beautifly playing South American side like Brasil or Urugay...
Meanwhile Tunesia is much weaker side that recently got two important wins in their qualification zone...Can they pull out the upset like Greece did almost an year ago against Portugal...well i don't think so...
a talent of underestimated Argentina stars like Riquelme and Saviola should be too much for the Tunesian defence
my prediction 2-0 or 3-0 win
bets i take
Argentina - Tunisia 0-1 handicap @ 2.00 with 4 units
plus combo with 5 units
Argentina - Tunisia @1.35
Germany - Australia @1.35
plus handicap 0-1 combo on both Argentina and Germany with 1 unit
Argentina - Tunisia
Argentina will play only with players who play abroad, because the local league is still being played. This means that important players like Mascherano and lucho Gonzalez will not play, same as first gk Abondazieri (but personaly I prefer his sub, Leo Franco, anyway). Also, the most veteran players got a rest, so Ayala, Crespo and Kily Gonzales, will not play. D'alessandro is out too.
At least 4 of these players are important regulars.
Obviously, Argentina has still great players, and they take this tournament quite seriously. They know it's not realy important, but they want to succeed. Let's say that they consider this tournament as an important friendly.
The possible (but not confirmed yet) lineup will be:
Leo Franco; Gonzalo Rodríguez, Coloccini, Heinze; Mario Santana and Bernardi (Or Cambiasso and Zanetti), Sorin; Riquelme, Aimar; César Delgado/Galleti and Saviola.
Defence is young and superb - Franco is a very good gk, and the three defenders all had great season, and it's almost impossible to pass them.
Midfield is solid. It's not as brilliant as it could be with Mascherano and Lucho, but still good. Attacking midfield with in-form Riquelme is great, but there is a question mark over Aimar's form, after a season full with injuries.
Attack is nice, but without Crespo, the "killer instinct" is missing.
Tunisia ia a very average team. They didn't impress in the last world cups, and after I watched them against Rwanda and Guinea in the last month, I can tell that they didn't improve since then. Their game is very slow, and the players are not in high level.
Their two Brasilians, I think, Clayton and Dos Santos, are good for the WC qualifications, but with all respect, they wouldn't even have a place in Brasil youth team reserves.
I always have respect for Tunisia, they are not a terrible team, but they are far from the level of the good teams.
There is no reason why Argentina won't win this game. However, odds of @1.25 in a match that is, after all, a friendly, are not worth a bet.
Give me these odds in the world cup, and I'll be happy to take them :D
Holonia, nice preview.
I fully endorse your views on Tunisia.
I am trying the under in the game as odds are too good to refuse.
http://www.bettingadvice.com/showPredictionsLeague.php?idMenu=359
There is no reason why Argentina won't win this game. However, odds of @1.25 in a match that is, after all, a friendly, are not worth a bet.
Give me these odds in the world cup, and I'll be happy to take them :D
Holonia,you can find 1.40 on Argentina(PointBet, Nordicbet, Paddy Power,...), or 1.39(Bet365)! :wink: Acceptable price IMO.
I have had a small bet on Tunisia to qualify for the next round at 4.00.
I know some people believe that they were fortunate to win The African Cup last year but are they not improving by recruiting more foreign born players.
They need to keep their momentum going as they are in the middle of their World Cup qualifying games.
Clearly, they should not beat either Argentina of Germany in a major tournament but stealing a draw off each is not too fanciful is it?
Argentina still have a strong squad despite the stars left at home but the coach has been critised for experimenting with tactics and using too many players.
Maybe he will use this tournament to experiment once again. Added to that how often do we see shocks in the opening games or boring draws because no one wants to lose. Also they may hold something back as it is little better than a friendly
I also noted Franz Beck having a go because he claimed that Germany had a poor inexperienced defence. Are they any better than the team that failed in Portugal. If not, then another result is possible.
Finally Australia. They are ranked many places below Tunisia in the FIFA's rankings. Not a list I would want to rely upon but helpful all the same as a guide.
Aussie defense: Neill, Popovic, Moore, Muscat
Loks like a draw to me.
I would like to see probable German line up for a final pick..
Aussies are similar to Germans in mentality. Even stronger. :wink:
Popovic , Skoko , Viduka, Zdrilic, Sterjovski , Petkovic , Kalac, Milicevic .
Australia or Yugoslavia ? :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Popovic , Skoko , Viduka, Zdrilic, Sterjovski , Petkovic , Kalac, Milicevic .
Australia or Yugoslavia ?
We are all migrants in this world me friend :wink:
I think that both, Argentina and Germany, will win their matches easily...
Argentina will show some technique and Tunisia which, I think, isn't defence-master, will have tough task tomorrow... I see easy 3-0, 4-1 etc, even without crespo - there is Tevez, there is Saviola, also Aimar, Figureoa or Riquelme are able to score something
Germans should win this one but it isn't impossible something like HT 0-0, 55' lucky goal by Viduka's head :P and only 1-1 FT or sth like that...
Hm.
Lakini? Where are you? :) :D
Hi , u werent long time here
There is no reason why Argentina won't win this game. However, odds of @1.25 in a match that is, after all, a friendly, are not worth a bet.
Give me these odds in the world cup, and I'll be happy to take them :D
Holonia,you can find 1.40 on Argentina(PointBet, Nordicbet, Paddy Power,...), or 1.39(Bet365)! :wink: Acceptable price IMO.
I didn't notice these odds before ( I only checked in playit and assumed that all bookies give same odds more or less...).
I agree, @1.40 is acceptable. I don't know if I Should give Argentina 75% or 80% to win this game, in any case @1.40 sounds good to me.
(I have a rule not to bet on friendlies, I'll have to decide if I keep it or not :) ).
Hi , u werent long time here
Martz
Like I said above i keep on immigrating......... :wink:
There is no reason why Argentina won't win this game. However, odds of @1.25 in a match that is, after all, a friendly, are not worth a bet.
Give me these odds in the world cup, and I'll be happy to take them :D
Holonia,you can find 1.40 on Argentina(PointBet, Nordicbet, Paddy Power,...), or 1.39(Bet365)! :wink: Acceptable price IMO.
I didn't notice these odds before ( I only checked in playit and assumed that all bookies give same odds more or less...).
I agree, @1.40 is acceptable. I don't know if I Should give Argentina 75% or 80% to win this game, in any case @1.40 sounds good to me.
(I have a rule not to bet on friendlies, I'll have to decide if I keep it or not :) ).
Argentina beat Brazil. So this it is a friendly for the Argies. However it will be good if the old continent get some thing out of this.
What about Brasil - Greece ?
Zagorakis will play but Vryzas is definitely out . Brasil is much stronger but the odds are too low.
Yes, I am waiting this for long time to see how Greece will concede at least 3 goals.
P.S. casabel you will have to delete your signature :)
Here's casabel's signature:
Q:If your wife gets into bed wearing a GREECE jersey, what is she trying
to tell you?
A:There is NO ******* way you are SCORING TONIGHT!
Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldinho... Oh YES there is ******* way that Brazil are going to score!
What about Brasil - Greece ?
Zagorakis will play but Vryzas is definitely out . Brasil is much stronger but the odds are too low.
!
Let's keep this thread for day 1 of the competition and open another one for day 2.
1 thread for each day,otherwise we'll get lost in the jungle of information :wink:
What about Brasil - Greece ?
Zagorakis will play but Vryzas is definitely out . Brasil is much stronger but the odds are too low.
I think it's time for someone to destroy the greeks and to teach them that football isn't - DEFENDING 90 MINUTES !!!!
Yes, I am waiting this for long time to see how Greece will concede at least 3 goals.
P.S. casabel you will have to delete your signature :)
Here's casabel's signature:
Q:If your wife gets into bed wearing a GREECE jersey, what is she trying
to tell you?
A:There is NO ******* way you are SCORING TONIGHT!
Adriano, Robinho, Ronaldinho... Oh YES there is ******* way that Brazil are going to score!
Do you think any Brazil could get through Katsuranis Dellas kapsis and oops
Otto
Bring Anatolakis in :wink:
i am just wondering how are the teams who play here being picked?
8 of this teams ,are a weird mix how are they choosen ?
any way i feel that there will be 1 easy win and 1 surprise ,i think the surprise will be in the germany game ,as they have lots of pressure on them and australia have some good players .
i think germany will open in a blitz but they wont score in the first 10-15 minutes and then the game will cool down and be even .i have a feeling it will end up 1-0,1-1,0-0,0-1 not more then that .
can any one give me a good site that offers good prices on the X2 or even aussie+1?
If you're so sure that Greece will get some football lessons then 1,50 should be not that low for you.
I believe its winners of corresponding continent tournaments if that makes sense..domnt know the full set of criteria but.
greece (winner Euro 04)
tunisia (winner africa nations cup)
japan the same for Asia
copa america (cant remember who won it ---also dont know why brazil and argentina in it)
im guessing same with australia for oceania
and mexico (best team for cental america? --)
now germany..dont know..but something along those lines..
If you're so sure that Greece will get some football lessons then 1,50 should be not that low for you.
To be honest
Greece's mind is not on Nonfederation cups anymore.
Whole of Greece dant care about this and the Greeks know it.
World Cup is more important :wink:
i am just wondering how are the teams who play here being picked?
8 of this teams ,are a weird mix how are they choosen ?
...
Germany - host of WC 2006
Argentina - Copa America runner-up 2004
Australia - Oceania champion 2004
Tunisia - African champion 2004
Brazil - World champion 2002
Japan - Asian champion 2004
Greece - European champion 2004
Mexico - Gold Cup winner 2003
i am just wondering how are the teams who play here being picked?
8 of this teams ,are a weird mix how are they choosen ?
any way i feel that there will be 1 easy win and 1 surprise ,i think the surprise will be in the germany game ,as they have lots of pressure on them and australia have some good players .
i think germany will open in a blitz but they wont score in the first 10-15 minutes and then the game will cool down and be even .i have a feeling it will end up 1-0,1-1,0-0,0-1 not more then that .
can any one give me a good site that offers good prices on the X2 or even aussie+1?
You are spot on. My thinking exactly. :wink:
sly Posted: Tue Jun 14, 2005 10:16 pm Post subject:
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edan217 wrote:
i am just wondering how are the teams who play here being picked?
8 of this teams ,are a weird mix how are they choosen ?
...
Germany - host of WC 2006
Argentina - Copa America runner-up 2004
Australia - Oceania champion 2004
Tunisia - African champion 2004
Brazil - World champion 2002
Japan - Asian champion 2004
Greece - European champion 2004
Mexico - Gold Cup winner 2003
thanks man that clears it up for me
i was about to ask why the runner up of copa america but i guess its cause brasil won the copa america ha?
If you're so sure that Greece will get some football lessons then 1,50 should be not that low for you.
To be honest
Greece's mind is not on Nonfederation cups anymore.
Whole of Greece dant care about this and the Greeks know it.
World Cup is more important :wink: Man , i'm watching greek television right now. They care about the Conf. Cup hoping that they can get at least to the semifinals. The World Cup qualifications are in September. They even think about beating Brasil !!!!!
If you're so sure that Greece will get some football lessons then 1,50 should be not that low for you.
To be honest
Greece's mind is not on Nonfederation cups anymore.
Whole of Greece dant care about this and the Greeks know it.
World Cup is more important :wink: Man , i'm watching greek television right now. They care about the Conf. Cup hoping that they can get at least to the semifinals. The World Cup qualifications are in September. They even think about beating Brasil !!!!!
Well that Greek TV for ya :D
It' already 1 year since Greece got the European Championship and noone could have ever dreamed about that at that time, so why not to beat Brazil?
The best games of Greece were when they were underdogs :lol:
I read about Greece lacking motivation in Conf Cup, in Leipzig there will be over 30000 Greeks and Rehaggel plays in his homeland Germany he breathes only for this match right now![/quote][/list]
Once again - this thread is for day 1 (Ger-Aus and Arg-Tun).I opened a new topic for day 2,everything about Brazil and Greece and Mexico-Japan,in there!
:!:
It' already 1 year since Greece got the European Championship and noone could have ever dreamed about that at that time, so why not to beat Brazil?
The best games of Greece were when they were underdogs :lol:
I read about Greece lacking motivation in Conf Cup, in Leipzig there will be over 30000 Greeks and Rehaggel plays in his homeland Germany he breathes only for this match right now![/list][/quote]
Sicandera...... Love your nick :wink: Andera ....Kundera
Have you asked Tsiartas that and the rest of the Greeks that. The Greek government is not paying them the promised :wink:
Once again - this thread is for day 1 (Ger-Aus and Arg-Tun).I opened a new topic for day 2,everything about Brazil and Greece and Mexico-Japan,in there!
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Sorry.
It' already 1 year since Greece got the European Championship and noone could have ever dreamed about that at that time, so why not to beat Brazil?
The best games of Greece were when they were underdogs :lol:
I read about Greece lacking motivation in Conf Cup, in Leipzig there will be over 30000 Greeks and Rehaggel plays in his homeland Germany he breathes only for this match right now![/list][/quote] I agree with you 100 %. Greece can beat Brasil.
P.S: My wife is Greek. She was here that's why i wrote this. I don't think they can beat Brasil. Last year most of their players played in Greek championship and they weren't as tired as the French, English and the Italian who play in much more exsausting championship.
This year most of greek players played across Europe and they are much more tired than they were last year.
Plus they won't be as underestimated as they were in Portugal .
Once again - this thread is for day 1 (Ger-Aus and Arg-Tun).I opened a new topic for day 2,everything about Brazil and Greece and Mexico-Japan,in there!
:!: Sorry again. :lol: :lol:
Otto
Bring Anatolakis in :wink:
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:
Jamit, for once again, you rock! I meant ***915;***913;***924;it and not Jamit of course...
p.s: man, please, give useful threads a break and come in general chit-chat where you can open your very own thread... :wink:
Germany v Australia, Draw at HT @ 2.70 (betandwin), stake 2/10 units
Germany v Australia, Under 2.5 goals @ 2.20 (betandwin), stake 5/10 units
Germany (-1.25) v Australia (+1.25), Australia @ 2.20 (bet365), 6/10 units
I'm not convinced by Germany. Imo, they will have a hard trouble to overcome Australia. Germany lost to Bayern Munchen, drew with a completely unmotivated Russia (which is, imo, a very poor team at the moment).
Hitzlsperger as left defender is a huge mistake. He never played in the left side before (he played in the center when he was at Aston Villa) and the same applies to defence -- so he is playing in a completely new place for him. Australia's Emmerton will be a very tough opponent for him. I believe that he will play a very important role taking advantage of Hitzlsperger's inadaptation to his new role. I also think that Viduka won't have a good Condeferations Cup, because he comes from a poor season and will be in a bad psicological moment.
Germany's midfield is pretty good, but Australia's is good too. Maybe not as good as Germany's but certainly more hard working than the Germans.
In attack Germany don't seem so strong either. Podolski seems to be too unexperienced for national team, if you ask me. He may have the potential, but he far from being the finnished product, yet.
Adding it up, I think Germany will have a hard time to defeat Australia, a much harder time than the odds of 1.35 for the win indicate. Australia may well get a draw on even a win. Value is on Australia's side. They have some quality players and this cup is like a World Cup for them. So, they will be highly motivated. Klinsmann and Germany will want to win the cup in front of their fans to get their support and erase all doubts concerning the quality of their team. However, the fact that they will have their next official game in the opening of the World Cup may have its effect and maybe the Germans aren't that concentrated in the competition.
I think this will be a very close match, with few goals. I expect a result like 0-0, 1-0, 1-1, 0-1, 2-0.
Wettmeister
15-06-05, 09:46
Hi guys. I've got a question especially for Germans. I have read that your going to play with very young and unexperienced defense. How do you think they can manage this tournament? Thx for the info.
yes they are young, but they play togehter a few times , and it was good . For example Huth he plays for chelsea has a excellent training , top motivated to play . Hitzlsperger plays for Aston Villa since 2002 . Hinkel for VFB Stuttgart and Friedrich for Berlin , so you see all play at top teams and they made a lot of training togehter the last weeks, so i see no problem here.
Wettmeister
15-06-05, 09:52
Germany v Australia, Draw at HT @ 2.70 (betandwin), stake 2/10 units
Germany v Australia, Under 2.5 goals @ 2.20 (betandwin), stake 5/10 units
Germany (-1.25) v Australia (+1.25), Australia @ 2.20 (bet365), 6/10 units
I'm not convinced by Germany. Imo, they will have a hard trouble to overcome Australia. Germany lost to Bayern Munchen, drew with a completely unmotivated Russia (which is, imo, a very poor team at the moment).
Hitzlsperger as left defender is a huge mistake. He never played in the left side before (he played in the center when he was at Aston Villa) and the same applies to defence -- so he is playing in a completely new place for him. Australia's Emmerton will be a very tough opponent for him. I believe that he will play a very important role taking advantage of Hitzlsperger's inadaptation to his new role. I also think that Viduka won't have a good Condeferations Cup, because he comes from a poor season and will be in a bad psicological moment.
Germany's midfield is pretty good, but Australia's is good too. Maybe not as good as Germany's but certainly more hard working than the Germans.
In attack Germany don't seem so strong either. Podolski seems to be too unexperienced for national team, if you ask me. He may have the potential, but he far from being the finnished product, yet.
Adding it up, I think Germany will have a hard time to defeat Australia, a much harder time than the odds of 1.35 for the win indicate. Australia may well get a draw on even a win. Value is on Australia's side. They have some quality players and this cup is like a World Cup for them. So, they will be highly motivated. Klinsmann and Germany will want to win the cup in front of their fans to get their support and erase all doubts concerning the quality of their team. However, the fact that they will have their next official game in the opening of the World Cup may have its effect and maybe the Germans aren't that concentrated in the competition.
I think this will be a very close match, with few goals. I expect a result like 0-0, 1-0, 1-1, 0-1, 2-0.
I don't think so.
You can't see Germany - Munich as a important game, it was more than a friendly game. Russia was fit, their ligue started a few weeks ago , and the german players had a hard Season behind them . All german players are top motivated to win this game. The defence of Australia is bad, very bad, they made a lots of misstakes in the last games . Ok Australians midfield is good, but the german one is better, you can't compare Ballack with Bresciano.
I agree with you 100 %. Greece can beat Brasil.
P.S: My wife is Greek. She was here that's why i wrote this.
:lol:
http://www.bettingadvice.com/showPredictionsLeague.php?idMenu=120#34929
Germany over 2.5 @1.845 4/10 PIN/5Dimes
Germany -1.5 @2.15 4/10 CB
Argentina -1.5 @2.15 4/10 CB
The confederations cup 2006 is starting today with the match of two of the big favourites for the title. The southamerican champions from Argentina and of the course the hosts from Germany.
Probably the best team in this tournament is Argentina. They are coming with most of their topplayers to Germany, just a few like Crespo, D'Alessandro or Diego Placente are not participating because of injuries or tiredness. The Argentinians sent a very very young team to Germany, just one player is older than 30years (Javier Zanetti), even captain Juan Pablo Sorin looks like a very old man with his 28years compared to youngsters like 21year old Carlos Tevez.
Coach Carlos Pekerman is currently playing with a 3-4-1-2-system with Leo Franco in goal, Coloccini, Milito and Heinze in defence. Zanetti, Cambiasso, Bernardi and Sorin look like probable starter in midfield, while playmaker Riquelme is going to play behind the two forwards Tevez and Saviola. Great lineup this is for sure, but on many positions different to the 11players that started against Brazil last week and won 3:1. Abbondanzieri was starting in goal, Roberto Ayala and Javier Mascherano in defense ans well as Fabricio Colloccine. Moreover Hernan Crespo was participating and we ve seen Christain Gonzalez in the team. But in a football nation like Argentina changes like these are not that big deal. Just remember that a player like Pablo Aimar is only sitting on the bench...
Tunesia doesnt have as many quality players like Argentina of course and every regular that falls out can hurt them a lot. At the moment, the players of Tunesia seem to be tired after two hard weeks they had. They played 10 days ago their WC-Qualification game at Botswana, flew 11 hours to Frankfurt, where they held a trainingscamp, return to Tunis on Friday to play their next game against Guinea and returned to Frankfurt again to prepare for the Confederations Cup.
Best part of the team from Northafrica is the defense with old and experienced keeper Ali Boumnijel (39years old!) and hard defender Radhi Jaidi who play s in England for the Bolton Wanderers. You have to follow European Leagues or African Soccer very close to know most of the players. Some are playing in topclubs like forward Hamed Namouchi (Glasgow Rangers), defender Hatem Trabelsi (Ajax Amsterdam) or the midfielders Slim Benachour (Paris St.German) and Mehdi Nafti (Birmingham City).
A brazilian is the star of the Tunesian team: Silva Dos Santos
According to different matchreports, Tunesia didnt play a good game at all against Guinea and won only with a penalty and a lucky longdistance shots. The offence of Tunesia in that game was almost invisible, but Guinea wasnt able to do anything against the good working defence of Tunesia.
And thtas probably what we can expect again today against Argentina. The northafricans know they are the underdogs and they are going to play the game like the underdogs, concentrate on their defence and trying to get their chances in attack with brazilian born goalgetter Silva Dos Santos, who scored 11 goals in just 15games.
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As the hosting team Germany is under big pressure. The german public expects victories of course, especially against a team like Australia. And even if Germany looked tired against Russia at the end of their hard preparation for the Confed-Cup, they showed sometimes, what they are able to.
The keyfigure of Germany is of course Michael Ballack, he is the head and the captain and when he is having a bad day, its going to be difficult for the others to win. The midfield is the best part of Germany and its the only part, where we can say without a doubt, that its belonging to the top with Sebastian Deisler in rightmidfield, Thorsten Frings in defensive midfield, Bastian Schweinsteiger left and Ballack in playmaker position - thats the FC Bayern Munich row.
Also on the goalkeeper-position Germans dont have big problems, whether its Kahn, Lehmann or Hildebrandt (however, best keepers in Bundesliga are others like Weidenfeller, Rost or Jentzsch).
But the german defense is kind of a desaster. On the right wing we are probably going to see Bernd Schneider today, who is actually such a waste on that position. He had to play this role at Leverkusen too, cause all rightbacks of Bayer were injured. He did a good job - but he is an offensive midfielder and not a defender. If Patrick Owomoyela starts it wouldnt be much different. He used to play rightwinger at Bielefeld most part of the season...No big difference on the left side. Starter Thomas Hitzlsperger is playing in midfield at Aston Villa and has huge problems in defensive play. The leader of the defence is 20year old Per Mertesacker of average Bundesligaoutfit Hannover 96. He is talented for sure, but experienced at all yet, but how could he? Just one year ago noone ever heard of him. He is assisted by either Arne Friedrich or Robert Huth. Huth is waiting for his chance at Chelsea London, but he is still far away from the starting lineup there. He scored a totally useless owngoal in the game against Bayern and showed his skills as a goalkeeper in the game at Northern Ireland, where he was sent off just after 18minutes. Huth is a big riskfactor, even if he has talent for sure. Mertesacker and Huth together would be a great duo for the german team in the U20-WC at Holland. But for a big tournament they are not yet good enough. More experienced Arne Friedrich was injured for a long time and is not yet back in form.
Thinking about this bad defence you can become mad. There are better german defenders, someone like Christian Wörns belongs into the team, but Klinsmann counts on the young players in this tournament.
The two forwards of the german team today will be Lucas Podolski and Kevin Kuranyi. Now here we have two guys we never know what we get. Both are talented for sure and able to decide games, but on other days they disappear completely. However, the 19year old Podolski is the biggest german talent and its a good idea of Klinsmann to let him play in order to gain experience.
So we have a very offensive german team with weak defenders. And a former worldclass forward as a coach, who is totally different to his former coach Giovanni Trapatoni: Klinsmann prefers winning 4:3 much more than winning 1:0. And thats the way they are going into this tournament.
But its not going to be easy against the team from Australia, who are without Harry Kewell and a real big star, but with a lot of solid and hard playing guys, most of them earning their money in Europe. Goalkeeper Mark Schwarzer belongs to the best keepers in the EPL, he has german roots, grew up in Dresden and played 6 games for Kaiserslautern in the Bundesliga. Neill, Popovic, Moore and Muscat are playing in front of him. Craig Moore was just fired at Gladbach - but to be honest, he played a bad season for them. He was slow and made it easy for other teams to beat Gladbach. But the midfield and the attackers of Australia are dangerous. Chipperfield of FC Basel or Josip Skoko of Genclerbirligi showed theric lass already in European Cups. About the quality of Mark Viduka we dont have to talk, even if he bcecame older now and isnt that good anymore like he used to be. Tim Cahill played a great season for Everton, Viduka and Cahill can cause a lot of trouble to the weak german defence.
Australia is not yet qualified for the World Cup. They still have to beat the Solomon-Islands right after the Confed-Cup, that doesnt sound scary, but however, we all know that small teams can make it difficult for the favourites nowadays. In case Australia beats the SOlomon-Islands, they have to play against the 5th of the Southamerican-Qualification - and this is the biggest problem actually on their way to Germany 2006.
I dont think that Australia can tease the germans today. The offence of Germany is good enough, fast and they keep the ball on the ground. The Australian defenders are most of all strong in the air, but germans wont play with high crosses anymore, like they used to in the past. A player like Lukas Podolski wouldnt profitize from that and a defender like Craig Moore is simply too slow. On the other hand I believe, Australia will be able to score as well against the germans, thats why I see some value in taking the over for this game.
NOte: by accident i took A ht on mainsite, which is of course wrong.
All german players are top motivated to win this game.
All the Australian players are very motivated too! :roll:
Mark Viduka(Middlesbrough)
Viduka was a part of the team that reached the cup final in 1997 but he missed Australia's latest appearance in 2001, when the Socceroos beat the world's first- and second-ranked teams (France and Brazil) on their way to the bronze medal.
The current team is given little chance of repeating such feats - not least because three key players (Harry Kewell, Marco Bresciano and Stan Lazaridis) are absent. But Viduka refuses to rule anything out.
"What's realistic?" Viduka asked. "There's no realistic in football. Realistically, Greece should never have won the European [Championships]. Realistically, Liverpool shouldn't have won the Champions League. We might win it."
Tim Cahill(Everton)
Socceroos Tim Cahill says Australia's looming Confederations Cup campaign is quite simply the highlight of his career.
"This is massive, not only for myself, but for the entire team," said the Everton midfielder in Frankfurt ahead of his country's opening day clash with hosts Germany on Thursday morning.
"How many times have we played Germany in the past? How many times do we get to open a tournament in a new stadium against the hosts?
"This will be the biggest stage I've ever played on," added the 25-year-old who played in last year's FA Cup final for Millwall and took part in the Athens Olympics.
"As a footballer you have a short career and experiences like this don't come around too often.
"I don't want to have any regrets in my career. This competition is special for Australia and it will act as a good preparation for our World Cup campaign."
Lucas Neill(Blackburn)
Australian fullback Lucas Neill concedes there will be an element of awe - but "only for a second" - when he steps out for what he regards as the biggest three games of his life in the Confederations Cup, which kicks off on Wednesday in Frankfurt.
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I mean, we all know the hosts are better in overall and normally should win this one at the end of the day, but I don't know how anyone can write off Australia.Their motivation is huge ahead of tonight's game and no-one should doubt in that.
They've made a lot of big results in the last few years, against France, Brazil, England,...
Useless to talk about "motivation".
Do you believe, someone says:
"We all came here to Germany cause we heard about the very good Weizen and other beer. We wanna have a lot of Bratwurst and looking forward to lose high against Brazil and Argentina, but who cares about that."
Stop talking about motivation, thats not a keyfactor today.
However, the games against Solomon-Islands are much more important for Aussies if talking about "Motivation".
Useless to talk about "motivation".
Do you believe, someone says:
"We all came here to Germany cause we heard about the very good Weizen and other beer. We wanna have a lot of Bratwurst and looking forward to lose high against Brazil and Argentina, but who cares about that."
Stop talking about motivation, thats not a keyfactor today.
However, the games against Solomon-Islands are much more important for Aussies if talking about "Motivation".
When it comes to Cahill, Lucas Neill,...,yes, I do believe them.Most of these guys will give their heart to make a positive result tonight.You can bet on that.We're not talking about Ronaldo, Totti or some other arrogant players.Like Australian assistant coach said: "Australians always play with a lot of passion, a lot of pride, a lot of intensity and physically, we've got to match the Germans."
They were able to upset France and Brazil in their last Confederation Cup, so I wouldn't be so confident when it comes to Germany.They should win, but it won't be that easy for sure.
Btw, have you ever seen Australia in these kind of matches? 8O
Btw, have you ever seen Australia in these kind of matches? 8O
I did. Did you???? 8O
And I remember well that neither France nor Brazil were taking the cup serious at all.
And also great match against New Zealand just 1 week ago, Australians really impressed the whole world.
Na endlich Lakini...i am with you here.
Everybody talks about Australia.
They have good player,they played not bad.
Come on...
Only compare the last matches of both teams...
Germany played not bad against Russia. Draw with a 90 min goal from Kerzhakov.
What made Australia.
1-0 against New Zeeland with a 85 min goal. And this New zeeland is not in final on Oceania group. Solomon island is on final.
So Clear win for Germany.
Also Germany is only team that looked at this matches not like a friendly.
They must show everything what they can...
And I remember well that neither France nor Brazil were taking the cup serious at all.
France(with the likes of Vieira, Pires, Anelka, Wiltord, Djorkaeff, Desailly, etc...) won the Confederation Cup in 2001. :roll:
Btw, Australia trashed S.Islands in the last two meetings: 5:1 and 6:0, so I doubt they're too worried.
To be honest with you Kojic, I dunno what you are trying to tell the world here.
You write "Germany should win, but" - But what? You are mentioning games from 2001 and 1997 and thats as useful as if I would write, that Germans beat Australia 1974 easily. Who is still playing? Mark Viduka? Is he still on a same level? No, definetely not.
Of course Australia can win this game or upset Germans. No doubt about that. Good odds as well for that, there are worse bets then that.
But I took -1.5 myself because of the tempting price of 2.15 at Centrebet, which is much higher than what Pointbet or Pinnacle offer. But I am aware that Australia is a dangerous team.
But in my opinion, the Australian defence won't be able to prevent germans from scoring, cause they all look slow and old too me, just like Craig Moore.
But you should better try to convince anyone with some facts and not with some quotes of a coach or players.
To be honest with you Kojic, I dunno what you are trying to tell the world here...
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But you should better try to convince anyone with some facts and not with some quotes of a coach or players.
I wanted to ask you the same thing. :D
As I see, you've just named the German squad, so no strong facts from you either(NHF, but you're very biased when it comes to national team).Even you've said that Germany look shaky at the back, so at the end I have no idea where this optimism comes from that Germany will trash Australia by 2 or more.
As for those Confederation Cup games, it's not true that Australia have no players from the team that beat France and Brazil, but you said that you remember well, so I'm sure you'll find one more name at least. :wink:
Btw, how can you be so sure that Germany go into this game with higher motivation?
seems to be lot of views for germany australia. i will say this. australia found it very hard to beat an organised new zealand side. yes it was only a friendly but it was a derby game and both sides fought hard. germany will definitely be organised and if they try hard I think they will win. australia had viduka and kewell out against new zealand but i don't think australia can influence the result of the game. it depends entirely on how germans play. since its the opening game of the tournament and in front of their own fans, germany will go for win and i think they are capable now. odds are rubbish this is the only problem.
geldrausch
15-06-05, 16:05
Viduka is injured isn´t he?
For some players, the tournament was over before it had even begun. Five of the eight teams involved had already replaced a player by the time the FIFA Confederations Cup opened on Wednesday. For the host country Germany, Christian Schulz was the unlucky man as he withdrew on the eve of the tournament with a badly bruised leg.
World champions Brazil lost full-back Juliano Belletti, while the others to miss out were Japan's Yuji Nakazawa, Omar Bravo of Mexico, and the Tunisian Alaeddine Yahia. Still, with Germany hosting the FIFA World Cup™ finals next year, they can console themselves with the thought that there's always next year.
:arrow: Oficial Site Of Fifa Confederations Cup 2005
Anyone knows if the match between Germany and Australia will be shown live in any channel?
Anyone knows if the match between Germany and Australia will be shown live in any channel?
Man , the match will be live in Romania in our national channel !!
Sorry for you !!! :wink:
Oficial Site Of Fifa Confederations Cup 2005 :
If today's game between Argentina and Tunisia ends in a draw it will be the first time the opening fixture at the FIFA Confederations Cup has not produced a victory. The previous six matches to kick off the tournament have all produced a decisive result ... a very decisive result because in those six games, 20 goals have been scored but with only one team making it onto the scoresheet in each case. A 3-0 scoreline has occurred on three occasions while in 2001 the opening match between France and the Korea Republic ended 5-0 to the former world champions.
Even before i knew this i wanted to take 3:0 or 4:0 as a final result of Argentina- Tunisia match. Now i will surely take it
geldrausch
15-06-05, 16:44
Germany TV:
ARD free both games of today
Premiere pay-tv both games,too
geldrausch
15-06-05, 16:50
That is the problem with Confed Cup:
Tunesien to rest most of their stars 8O :?
Pray if you bet on Tunesien
Tunisia missed a penalty kick.. :!:
Pray if you did bet on Argentina. :wink: Great match till now. Nice start for the Confederation Cup.
With a NOT GIVEN 100% offside but still did Saviola miss a very easy chance. Then once more Saviola missed a one-on-one. Tunisia more controlled. Playing like expected with midfield controlled, passing to counter attacks. And one deserved penalty in such a counter attack cross for them. But they missed...
Like said, nice start for the confederation cup. Hope all matches will be worth watching.
Good Luck.
Still no goals ! And i took it 3:0 and 4:0 . What the hell was i thinking ? :evil: :evil:
Both sides playing well
Tunesia is somethink better up to now I think
That's the 1-0 for Argentina. With a deserved penalty. Riquelme scored
TorontoMike
15-06-05, 17:31
GOAL ARGENTINA!
How is Argentina playing after 1:0 ? Any chances for a second goal ?
Not ANY, MANY chances. And they should score in the 2nd half. If you ask to take live ARG (-1.5), then a nice looking pick if odds are enough.
Nice display by Argentina with lot of chances for Argentina after the first goal. Problem is poor finishing but I think that in second half and hopefully after some substitutions they will become more effective.
Goal by Saviola in the 57.min..
Goal by Tunisia..
2-1 now
anyone is watching the game ? as i see on livescore tunisia hadn't score penalty on 16 minute........... and now the score is only 2:1 for argentina 8O
Florinho1984
15-06-05, 18:34
Tunisia is playing better and better. 2-2 is more possible than 3-1 at the moment.
As i saw on livescore there were 2 penalties for Tunisia and one for Argentina.
What are they doing ? killing eachother ?
Florinho1984
15-06-05, 18:43
I did not saw the third. The other two were no must one´s.
Vulpea1979
15-06-05, 18:47
2-1 FT argentina-tunisia fair-play game they didn't kill each other :D
As i saw on livescore there were 2 penalties for Tunisia and one for Argentina.
What are they doing ? killing eachother ?
Two stupid penaltyes...i`m not sure they were...
If Tunisia will play in rhe future like this they will have a word to say in football...they don`t have bad players but they have to work a lot and form a team which can play equal with big teams..
Tonight they showed they can play nice football based on counter-attack.
Argentina relaxed after 2-0 and Tevez missed big chances...
Argentina and Brazil are the favourites to win Confederations Cup 2005 !!
GL !! :lol:
GEORGIAN25
15-06-05, 19:02
I did not saw the third. The other two were no must one´s.
believe me third was as previous two...referee - an idiot.
I did not saw the third. The other two were no must one´s.
believe me third was as previous two...referee - an idiot.
I`m not sure the referee is an idiot...There was a contact between player and goalkeeper .. Referee has nothing to do but give penalty...
It`s true that the players have simulated but this are the rules..you can`t change them....
GL !! :wink:
Germany 1 : 1 Australia right now :(
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 20:19
Germany 1 : 1 Australia right now :(
nOT, 2 TO 1 GERMANY!
what a game 2-1 already :D
what a joke of a defense of Australia.
what a joke of a defense of Australia.
Yes :lol:
We will see more golas from Germany i hope :wink:
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 20:28
8O 8O 8O DRAW AUSTRALIA 2 - 2
What a joke of a defense of Germany.
What a joke of a defense of Germany.
LOL :wink:
What a joke of a defense of Germany.
And again you are right :roll:
What a joke of a defense of Germany.
What defense?I don't see anything...
They're staying 2-3 meters away from opponent,what are they waiting for?An invitation maybe :roll:
Germany is making Australia look like Brazil!
Over 1.5 for the 2nd half looks acceptable. There must be more goals if play continues the way it has.
what do you think? Germany win this match or it will be draw? who is better side?
Haha, on Admiralbet livebetting they have Australia to score next goal at 5,50, i won it twice in a row (luckily germany scored the second so fast i didn't get a chance to bet after the equalizer) :twisted:
Surely this is value, it's a 50/50 match
Considering the odds available I would only bet on Australia.
I believe Australia could win this one...
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:00
The 4 goals of first time Germany 2 - Australia 2
The file is format mov, 3.6 mg
http://s13.yousendit.com/d.aspx?id=1HZGL988TERUX0E2ECMRXR68MB
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:12
PENALTY FOR GERMANY!!!!!!!!!!!
how it looks like in second half? Germany play better?
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:13
GERMANY 3 - AUSTRALIA 2
BALLACK
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:14
how it looks like in second half? Germany play better?
Yes, germany play better and australia defend, but i guess now, australia searching the draw
Chilean Thrasher
15-06-05, 21:15
Dear Germany:
1. You are former World Champions. Please hold.
2. You are hosts of this whole tournament, so please have respect for your countrymen. Please hold.
3. Germany, you are playing against AUSTRALIA; come on, please HOLD!!!
Thank you Germany.
HOOOOOLD!!!
how it looks like in second half? Germany play better?
Yes, germany play better and australia defend, but i guess now, australia searching the draw
thanks, that is obvious that Australia is searching draw... question is that they could achieve that...
i have a lot of euro in this match and i hope that Germany win...
how it looks like now?
Germans playing awful now, but Australia is not able to cause any danger.
thanks, that is obvious that Australia is searching draw... question is that they could achieve that...
i have a lot of euro in this match and i hope that Germany win...
how it looks like now?
http://www.kanald.com.tr/
on the right top you see CANLI YAYIN
under that you click KANAL D
tahn you can watch it
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:41
germany 4 - australia 2
thanks, that is obvious that Australia is searching draw... question is that they could achieve that...
i have a lot of euro in this match and i hope that Germany win...
how it looks like now?
http://www.kanald.com.tr/
on the right top you see CANLI YAYIN
under that you click KANAL D
tahn you can watch it
thanks, but i see nothing... probably i haven't codex... thanks anyway...:)
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:44
germany 4 - australia 3
aloisi
There goes my -1.5
:evil:
F*cking b*stards
:cry: :cry: :cry:
the defence of these teams must be terrible :oops:
So we have a very offensive german team with weak defenders. And a former worldclass forward as a coach, who is totally different to his former coach Giovanni Trapatoni: Klinsmann prefers winning 4:3 much more than winning 1:0. And thats the way they are going into this tournament.
Yes,he does :lol: 8O
cmiranda78
15-06-05, 21:47
FINAL
GERMANY 4 - AUSTRALIA 3
Wow this is ridicolous. Germany is playing except for a few players (Podolski, Schweinsteiger and especially Mertesacker are good) very, very bad...
It seems that this year we have spectaculous matches in Confederations cup ...the final must be Brazil - Argentina...
Germany have a bad defence....IMO they have 10% chances to win the trophy !! :wink:
Damned , there goes my draw. Did the Germans at least deserved the win ?
Damned , there goes my draw. Did the Germans at least deserved the win ?
Germany had more chances of scoring but they didn`t deserve to win !!
There goes my -1.5
:evil:
F*cking b*stards
:cry: :cry: :cry:
I see that you have had a bad run. Atay away for a while. May be a new nick will bring ya more luck :wink:
tomjarem21
15-06-05, 21:54
Damned , there goes my draw. Did the Germans at least deserved the win ?
Germany had more chances of scoring but they didn`t deserve to win !!
so what you have to do to deserve the win???? 8O 8O 8O
There goes my -1.5
:evil:
F*cking b*stards
:cry: :cry: :cry:
I see that you have had a bad run. Atay away for a while. May be a new nick will bring ya more luck :wink:
I guess you are right
:cry:
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
And it was shot by Podolski, who is a really cool guy. 8) You know, he is not the most clever boy in the world but he is wearing his heart on his sleeve and he is scoring goals and goals and goals. We'll have a lot of fun with him in the next Bundesliga season...
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
btw..
thx for the predictions ;)
i won 120 €
^^
20€ is yours :)
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
And it was shot by Podolski, who is a really cool guy. 8) You know, he is not the most clever boy in the world but he is wearing his heart on his sleeve and he is scoring goals and goals and goals. We'll have a lot of fun with him in the next Bundesliga season...
Philp
When Lak speaks ....you keep quite and happy .....Ok.. :wink:
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
Well, there were parts of the match, when Germany looked well, some nice quick breaks, but the awful thing is their defence. And also, I was surprised how static they were in midfield, they were sitting back when they were in advantage and left Aussies play. That should never happen.
At least I know the end result of Argentina v Australia now...
:wink:
Aussie midfield is lacking . They shoed it vs the Germans.....Like Lakini said :wink:
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
btw..
thx for the predictions ;)
i won 120 €
^^
20€ is yours :)
Since I lost today with -1.5 I dont deserve any dime.
I lost too
But I still respect myself :wink:
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
At least I know the end result of Argentina v Australia now...
:wink:
?????????????? What is it? :?:
6 pages dedicated to one game, why ? :wink:
Never had a bet but OVER is the word for future games :D
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
And it was shot by Podolski, who is a really cool guy. 8) You know, he is not the most clever boy in the world but he is wearing his heart on his sleeve and he is scoring goals and goals and goals. We'll have a lot of fun with him in the next Bundesliga season...
Philp
When Lak speaks ....you keep quite and happy .....Ok.. :wink:
:? :roll: :?
funny people around here...
6 pages dedicated to one game, why ? :wink:
Never had a bet but OVER is the word for future games :D
I know .....
Lots of bull.....
Cest la Vie :wink:
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
And it was shot by Podolski, who is a really cool guy. 8) You know, he is not the most clever boy in the world but he is wearing his heart on his sleeve and he is scoring goals and goals and goals. We'll have a lot of fun with him in the next Bundesliga season...
Philp
When Lak speaks ....you keep quite and happy .....Ok.. :wink:
:? :roll: :?
funny people around here...
Are you serious 8O 8O 8O :oops:
But the 4th german goal was quite nice. At least.
At least I know the end result of Argentina v Australia now...
:wink:
?????????????? What is it? :?:
Well, the way Australia plays, they have no chance against Argentina IMO.
But it is only my opinion.
GL!
:wink:
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
Well, let us keep spam in this thread, why would we move it to the others...
:?: :wink:
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
Well, let us keep spam in this thread, why would we move it to the others...
:?: :wink:
Problem is,he is everywhere. :lol:
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
Well, let us keep spam in this thread, why would we move it to the others...
:?: :wink:
Problem is,he is everywhere. :lol:
My frien if...you want to do serious business here.....
Each game deserves its thread .....Wink Wink Wink..... :arrow:
Are you so damn :roll:
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
Well, let us keep spam in this thread, why would we move it to the others...
:?: :wink:
Problem is,he is everywhere. :lol:
My frien if...you want to do serious business here.....
Each game deserves its thread .....Wink Wink Wink..... :arrow:
Are you so damn :roll:
Then you'll have to work double as hard,nah,i don't wanna make it so difficult for you. :wink:
See,i'm actually a nice person,if you get to know me :P
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
Well, let us keep spam in this thread, why would we move it to the others...
:?: :wink:
Problem is,he is everywhere. :lol:
My frien if...you want to do serious business here.....
Each game deserves its thread .....Wink Wink Wink..... :arrow:
Are you so damn :roll:
Then you'll have to work double as hard,nah,i don't wanna make it so difficult for you. :wink:
See,i'm actually a nice person,if you get to know me :P
No problem ......
It was just a suggestion. :wink:
6 pages,not more than 1 with useful info around the games.The thread looks terrible. :evil:
Since the games are over now,maybe one of the mods can lock it.We already have enough spam...
Well, let us keep spam in this thread, why would we move it to the others...
:?: :wink:
My friend, you know what...Video killed the Rhedio Star :wink:
ps: :wink:
My friend, you know what...Video killed the Rhedio Star :wink:
ps: :wink:
:lol: :lol:
Not Rhedio
Radio .....Ed Harris ...etc etc
Good movie to watch ...if you into crying.....and sport Action......
:wink:
Not Rhedio
Radio .....Ed Harris ...etc etc
Good movie to watch ...if you into crying.....and sport Action......
:wink: I think you have something green on your face .
Jhonny Mo seems to keep a 'low profile' nowdays :D
Not Rhedio
Radio .....Ed Harris ...etc etc
Good movie to watch ...if you into crying.....and sport Action......
:wink: I think you have something green on your face .
Me No Vivodi.
Me Radio :wink:
Jhonny Mo seems to keep a 'low profile' nowdays :D
This is summer
And tis for Kicks :wink: :lol:
Cheers
Well, the way Australia plays
Can you explain me this? :roll:
They showed some nice stuffs last night, using short passes for most of the game.Surprisingly,it was Ballack & Co that used long balls all the time. :roll: When trio Lazaridis, Kewell and Viduka make their returns, Australia will look even better, that's for sure.
Argentina are the favourites anyway.
As for Germany, well, Kahn is definitely the history, while defense looks worse than ever.I'll probably put some money on Germany next year :D , but they don't look like a championship material though.
Well, the way Australia plays
Can you explain me this? :roll:
They showed some nice stuffs last night, using short passes for most of the game.Surprisingly,it was Ballack & Co that used long balls all the time. :roll: When trio Lazaridis, Kewell and Viduka make their returns, Australia will look even better, that's for sure.
Argentina are the favourites anyway.
As for Germany, well, Kahn is definitely the history, while defense looks worse than ever.I'll probably put some money on Germany next year :D , but they don't look like a championship material though.
Australia only used spaces which were provided by Germans, they had some nice passing game, but against Argentina they will be pressed and wont be able to have the ball in their legs.
Plus, Argentina wont have such mess in their defense, thats for sure.
:?
DiDiEr DrOgBa 15
16-06-05, 06:11
what about Japan - Mexico opnion plss ???
tomjarem21
16-06-05, 07:16
what about Japan - Mexico opnion plss ???
there is a thread open for the SECOND day of the tournament
what about Japan - Mexico opnion plss ???
It seems that Japan has a lot of injuries : Shinji Ono,Naohiro Takahara ,Yuji Nakazawa .They are key players fot Japan squad and they help Japan qualifie for World Cup 2006.
Japan won in front of Koreea and Bahrain but the football played by them was a boring one...They didn`t receive goals..and this an important thing..
Like Safin said Mexic didn`t lose from 18 matches , thei last defeat was caused by BRAZIL !! :lol:
Mexic play`s a good football and i hope they win tonight !!
My bet for this match is Under 2.5 @ 1.6
Plus, Argentina wont have such mess in their defense, thats for sure.
If I'm not wrong, Tunisia had around 16-17 goal attempts against Argentina, plus 5-6 corners.Too much is simply too much.
Mexic play`s a good football and i hope they win tonight !!
Mexico captain Marquez(Barcelona) is ruled out through injury.
SaloNika -GreeCe
16-06-05, 12:54
Mexic play`s a good football and i hope they win tonight !!
Mexico captain Marquez(Barcelona) is ruled out through injury.
What ?? 8O 8O
Mexic play`s a good football and i hope they win tonight !!
Mexico captain Marquez(Barcelona) is ruled out through injury.
What ?? 8O 8O
Aaron Galindo will play instead of him.
Macot wrote:
Australia only used spaces which were provided by Germans, they had some nice passing game, but against Argentina they will be pressed and wont be able to have the ball in their legs.
Plus, Argentina wont have such mess in their defense, thats for sure.
Gauchos were great against Brasil, but against Tunis personaly had few more beers than normaly waiting for game to be over :?
Shall stay away against Australia for two reasons:
1.Odds
2:Still hold an Australian passport
:D
Captain Murat
16-06-05, 17:04
Yes fellas no chance to watch d mexicans. Any comments on d game :wink:
Japan is leading 1-0 f... :twisted:
Japan - Mexico 1 - 0
Atsushi Yanagisawa 13°
Captain Murat
16-06-05, 17:24
Japan - Mexico 1 - 0
Atsushi Yanagisawa 13°
and how is d balance
Captain Murat
16-06-05, 17:37
1:1
viva zapataaaaaaa
HT
Japan - Mexico 1 - 1
Japan : Atsushi Yanagisawa 13°
Mexico : Toluka Zinha 39°
Japan - Mexico 1 - 2
Jose Fonseca 64°
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