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Gambet
21-04-07, 18:58
20:45 Chelsea FC 1.95 X 3.05 Liverpool FC 3.85
odds from bwin :D

eamello
23-04-07, 13:23
I think they are paying too much for Liverpool.

Is Chelsea really likely to win this match? Please comment.

sule
23-04-07, 14:04
my first opinion for this match is under 2.5 goals.i expect a hard and tuff game with a few goals like almost all matches between this two oponents.gl.

Timurito
23-04-07, 15:36
I do not know if Chelsea will win this match, but i am sure that they will win Champions league.

Manchester United will win the FA cup and EPL

This is just my feelings + analysis of Win Draw and Loose

It could be that all the finals will be MU VS Chelsea

Though I think it will be Chelsea Milan

Good Luck :D

CG
23-04-07, 22:07
Thread moderated - continue the bickering via PM please.

perx
23-04-07, 22:15
Joking aside, I see a much different situation now then 2 years ago when Liverpool was a huge underdog to Chelsea. Even the most hard-core Chelsea fans would have to admit their team is struggling this whole season regardless of the fact they are chasing the quadruple. I believe their transition from 4-5-1 to 4-4-2 this season is not bringing the best out of their best players. Last two seasons midfielders were fed off by Drogba frequently thus many goals were scored by midfielders. My personal opinion is that Mourinho`s unbreakable spirit is inspiring them to bounce back every time, not to forget last 4 CL games Chelsea was behind in every game.
On the other hand Liverpool is far the better side now then 2 years ago. The arrivals of Agger, Mascherano and Crouch have definitely pushed the team to the higher level. Only thing I am afraid of is the factor of revenge, it may be too much for Liverpool to kick Chelsea out of the third semi-final in 3 consecutive years . Two CLs and one FA cup. Nevertheless I will be rooting for my beloved reds with all my heart and betting wise I just dont see this kind of game going over no matter how many great players both teams have, IMHO defensive tactics and caution are going to prevail in this much important battle, thus under is going to be my choice at the bookies.

kfcpro
23-04-07, 22:31
wow i just noticed how odds raised in bet at home,how they improoved it. if someone is interested, in bAh

chelsea- liverpool

2,00 3,10 4,00

just a hint;)

Brolly
24-04-07, 02:36
Any words on Carvalho? He was doubtful for the game, will he be fit? That would be a major problem for Chelsea.

I don't see Liverpool winning on Stamford Bridge, but I have the feeling the reds will go to the final, Mourinho always have huge problems facing Benitez type of game.

CarinaMO
24-04-07, 03:26
I know that this is a Big Match a there is a lot at stake. Realisticly this is 0-0 or 1-1 draw in my books, that is on a normal day.

Their previous and only 4 metings in Champions league resulted: 3 x 0-0 draws, and 1 x 1-0 to Liverpool once (1 goal in 4 matches) betingwise 1-1 is a most posible outcome in my eyes. It' Chelseas 5 European match against Liverpool and they should score fitth time trying. It shuld be draw or home win

Chelsea's Michael Essien is suspended for this match. Arjen Robben, Michael Ballack, Joe Cole, Didier Drogba, Lassana Diarra (Chelsea) and Jermaine Pennant (Liverpool) will all be suspended if booked ( so they have to be more careful, than ussual). Victory here would be Liverpool's 150th in a European Cup match.

I will go for home win, or a draw, there is still another day to decide. Away win for me doesnt even come to my mind.


REASONS IN RED

Champions League semi-final, 1st leg
Date: Wednesday, 25 April
Kick-off: 1945 BST
Venue: Stamford Bridge
Referee:

helpmebet
24-04-07, 05:56
Is the Russian referee the same as the referee who umpired the Milan-Bayern game? Was it the referee who also refereed the Holland-Portugal WC 2006 game?

If it was, he can make shocking decisions.

robotx
24-04-07, 06:46
Is the Russian referee the same as the referee who umpired the Milan-Bayern game? Was it the referee who also refereed the Holland-Portugal WC 2006 game?

If it was, he can make shocking decisions.

Referee for this match is Markus Merck from Germany. I have no doubt about his professionality. He"s very experienced.

CarinaMO
24-04-07, 06:53
Is the Russian referee the same as the referee who umpired the Milan-Bayern game? Was it the referee who also refereed the Holland-Portugal WC 2006 game?

If it was, he can make shocking decisions.

Referee for this match is Markus Merck from Germany. I have no doubt about his professionality. He"s very experienced.

ref. is Russian (Nikolay Levnikov)100%, dont write stupiditys, and confuse people. It can be costly for someone your sesinformation.

I don't know is it the same russian as from the game in Milan. It would be necesery to find out. I was wondering the sam thing.

robotx
24-04-07, 07:18
I dont think so. Look here: http://www.uefa.com/competitions/ucl/fixturesresults/round=2360/match=300136/report=lu.html

Levnikov is Uefa observer. And not referee.

CarinaMO
24-04-07, 07:29
HM, I APPOLOGISE, YOU ARE RIGHT.
I AM SORRY, I MADE A MISTAKE.
I THINK IF UEFA IS SAYING THE TRUTH :oops:

helpmebet
24-04-07, 10:23
Markus Merk is a professional referee. Very difficult to predict the outcome for this game. The game might end up in a scoreless draw of 0-0 since Liverpool and Chelsea have drew 0-0 three times.

It's hard to predict who will progress to the next stage.

Good value bets are: Half time draw (@ evens)
Liverpool to keep a clean sheet (@ 3.50)
Final score of 0-0 (@ 7.50)

CarinaMO
25-04-07, 07:44
What are the headlines going to be on the Final Day? :
is Chelsea going to be there? :

1. Repeat of the Final in Istambul, AC Milan vs FC Liverpool

2. "Red Encounter" of 2 English most suported sides: Liverpool vs Manchester United world's most wanted final

3. They are everywhere:

a) FA CUP Final: Manchester United vs Chelsea completed

b) English Premier League 1st position "dog fight": Manchester United vs Chelsea completed

c) 3rd game decider, Champions League Final: Manchester United vs Celsea ?

4. AC Milan vs Chelsea (Italian/Russian Final)

CHELSEA 1 - 1 LIVERPOOL, I am going for X

Timurito
25-04-07, 08:15
All the matches between the same country lack a certain something...

1that touch of the exotic that comes from going up against a big-name foreign club
2the novelty of a culture clash with a team from a different league.

Liverpool will win this game because of Portugese tactics not to score; too much confidenfe; and the fact that such players as Ballack and Roben are out. Liverpool will use this moment and embarace Chelsea at home.

I will try small stake on Liverpool

Medium stake on Liverpool not to loose or Liverpool +1

helpmebet
25-04-07, 09:01
I think Liverpool will either draw or win the game. Liverpool has a strong defence but Mourinho can make tactical switches after half time. For Chelsea, Essien is suspended (following the yellow card he picked up against Valencia), Ballack is ruled out due to injury and Robben is out. Is it true that Carvalho will be missing as well?

I honestly believe that the Chelsea squad in 2007 is not as strong as the squad back in 2005. I also believe that the Liverpool squad this year is much stronger than back in 2005.

bim
25-04-07, 09:42
Weary bodies
As the London club approach the final straight of the season, driven by the possibility of adding three more trophies to their English League Cup triumph, their workload is taking its toll. Apart from Michael Essien who is suspended, Chelsea are also without Michael Ballack for the Stamford Bridge game against their Premiership rivals who knocked them out at this stage two years ago en route to lifting their fifth European Champion Clubs' Cup in Istanbul.

'Not a fair fight'
Ballack injured an ankle in Sunday's 0-0 draw at Newcastle United FC while there remains a doubt over the fitness of defender Ricardo Carvalho although he did train on Tuesday. "It won't be a fair fight because the conditions are different," said Mourinho, citing the exhaustive schedule his players have undergone compared to that of the Merseysiders. "When Liverpool were in Portugal preparing for their game with [FC] Barcelona we played three matches including the League Cup final. Steven Gerrard did not play in Liverpool's last game [Saturday's 2-0 win against Wigan Athletic FC] – do you think Gerrard and Frank Lampard have the same conditions to compete?"

Contrasting records
Mourinho, who is also concerned about his players - namely, Joe Cole, Lassana Diarra and Didier Drogba – who go into the match knowing that another booking will rule them out of next week's return, added that in league terms the Premiership champions have been vastly superior to Liverpool in recent campaigns. But their opponents have a record in knockout football deserving of respect. "I am not a statistics man but in the last three years I think Chelsea have 55 or 60 points more than them," he said. "We have to praise Liverpool for what they have done in knockout competitions, they have won the Champions League and the FA Cup and they are in another Champions League semi-final.

Verbal jousting
"We do think we can win but if they only play in one competition for half a season then they arrive at this crucial moment in a great situation. They had an easy group whereas Chelsea had a group containing Werder Bremen and Barcelona and then two games with [FC] Porto and two with Valencia [CF]." Liverpool manager Rafael Benítez refused to join his opposite number in the verbal jousting and denied that his side hold an advantage. "We are in a similar position. It is two good teams against each other," he said. "I don't like to play this game of saying 'You have fresh legs or you have been playing less important games'. We are confident because we are playing well and scoring goals but we know we are facing a very good team. Chelsea always spend big money on good players. They are in finals because they have good players and a good team."

Probable teams
Chelsea: Petr ***268;ech; Lassana Diarra, Ricardo Carvalho, John Terry, Ashley Cole; Shaun Wright-Phillips, Claude Makelele, Frank Lampard, Joe Cole; Didier Drogba, Andriy Shevchenko.

Liverpool: Pepe Reina; Steve Finnan, Daniel Agger, Jamie Carragher, John Arne Riise; Steven Gerrard, Mohamed Sissoko, Javier Mascherano, Xabi Alonso; Dirk Kuyt, Peter Crouch.

©uefa.com 1998-2007. All rights reserved. (mourinho press conference yesterday)

bim
25-04-07, 09:48
i just cant believe that l'pool will beat chelsea..i dont know why.. ijust believe that year chelsea really wants to win cl ...maybe they are exhausted a bit maybe they lacks some of players in 11..but i just cant see lpool win here..tired or not quality player shows his abilities when he really wants to do sthng..watch out cr***305;st***305;ano ronaldo yesterday night..Oh men he plays 3 matches in 10 days and did you see how he plays? maybe after every position he stays on his knees to breath but i dont see any give up..i see a tight game..mourinho will start controlling...otherside lpool will be the one which will press from the starting of the game..thats my opinion..if we dont see any goal in first 15-20 minutes i dont believe we will see more than 1 goal..somehow i believe chelsea win..

eamello
25-04-07, 12:45
I believe is gonna be a very tough game, with very few goals, if there is any.

I am going for:

Draw at first time @ 2.00 (more stakes on that one)
1X @ 15
2X @ 15

FoxRus
25-04-07, 12:53
milan - bavaria Baskakov
holland - portugal Ivanov
Levnikov :D :D :D

Fernando Gonzalez
25-04-07, 13:13
I think Liverpool will try to score at least once, to get advantage before the second leg. During this season they have allways scored in away matches, exept one game in group stage against PSV Eindhoven.

Qualification round
Maccabi-Liverpool 1:1

Group stage
PSV Eindhoven-Liverpool 0:0
Bordeaux-Liverpool 0:1
Galatasaray-Liverpool 3:2

1/8 Final
Barcelona-Liverpool 1:2

1/4 Final
PSV Eindhoven-Liverpool 0:3

1/2 Final
Chelsea-Liverpool ????

Chelsea will try to win at home, and so I think that it'll be over 2.5!

P.S. I'm sure that the Final will be between AC MILAN - LIVERPOOL FC and english team will be punished for the tragic match of season 2004/2005 when AC Milan lost after 3:0 in the first half.

Binny
25-04-07, 13:13
Daniel agger to score first goal


Danish dynamite.Shoot like a horse kick and also can do things from set pieces.1/10

PANIONIC
25-04-07, 13:16
Does anyone know the first eleven for both teams ?

Binny
25-04-07, 13:18
Does anyone know the first eleven for both teams ?

Look at Bim post.Only coac hed knows for sure but uefa no mugs

Satyr
25-04-07, 13:47
I was hoping for a bunch of intelligent, well thought out posts, but all I read here is "I'm sure that _______ will be in the finals".

This is no kids forum, it's not a fan forum either. You can support your team but when it comes to betting is it SO HARD to sit down and write down a useful post.

You can't be "SURE" of anything here. Not on this board. We're more serious than that.

I'll write my thoughts later on.

Timurito
25-04-07, 14:00
I was hoping for a bunch of intelligent, well thought out posts, but all I read here is "I'm sure that _______ will be in the finals".

This is no kids forum, it's not a fan forum either. You can support your team but when it comes to betting is it SO HARD to sit down and write down a useful post.

You can't be "SURE" of anything here. Not on this board. We're more serious than that.

I'll write my thoughts later on.

ok then Liverpool + 1 because:

(A)
Liverpool have a healthy team to choose from. That means their first-choice 11 will all feature. My gut feeling tells me Rafa Benitez will go for a 4-5-1 formation, with Reina, Arbeloa, Carragher, Agger and Finnan at the back, Riise, Sissoko, Alonso, Gerrard and Pennant in the centre and Crouch upfront. But there is every chance he might opt for the 4-4-2 he deployed against Barcelona at the Nou Camp... that would mean Bellamy and Kuyt upfront, with Pennant dropping out from midfield. Either way, it's a very strong Liverpool team taking the field today.

B) Chelsea have a very good team as well, make no mistake about that. My prediction of their line-up is as follows - Cech, Diarra, Carvalho, Terry and Cole down the back, Joe Cole, Lampard, Makalele and Wright Phillips in the middle and Shevchenko and Drogba up top. This line-up looks strong, but it could have been stronger had Ballack not injured himself and Essien not having himself suspended. I think the weak link in Chelsea's line-up is certainly down the right hand side, with Diarra and Wright Phillips both lightweight players. If Riise could rip into that for the full 90 minutes, I think Liverpool have a fair chance.

C) Mourinho has come out in the press to say that Liverpool had an edge over his team because Liverpool only have to deal with the Champions League this term, as opposed to Chelsea having to deal with 4 competitions. I think he does have a point there. With Lampard huffing and puffing the full 90 minutes against Newcastle, Gerrard sat out the Wigan game at the weekend. With Gerrard fresh in midfield, and Chelsea missing Ballack and Essien in that same department, coupled with a lethargic Lampard... the midfield tussle may well go Liverpool's way.

Conclusion Having said all that, Cup competitions are extremely hard to predict, because the stakes and adrenaline are so high. The side that can settle the quickest and dictate the tempo of the game will win out on the day. Liverpool's tradition and history of European success should see them more settled and composed at the early stages, holding that psychological edge over a Chelsea team that have never been past the semi-final stage.

BAD RELIGION
25-04-07, 14:14
SINCE THIS IS A FIRST CLASS DERBY ANYTHING IT IS POSSIBLE TO HAPPEN. I WILL GO WITH LIVERPOOL +0,+1 AH AT 2.08 MEDIUM STAKE CAUSE THEY ARE IN GOOD FORM THIS MONTH,AND THEY PLAY MUCH BETTER AT CL MATCHES THAN IN PREMIER LEAGUE.

decanno
25-04-07, 15:20
For enough time I have not been writing. The picks of Spain Primera don´t let me much time. But I have good sensations today. I am not able to make a prediction about the winner of this match, but I think that there will be some goals tonight. Mou must try to win the match since the start, because the second match will be in Anfield and if Chelsea don't get a good result, the qualify will be very hard.

So, I think that the match will be played with a lot of intensity since the first minute. It's sure that Rafa will not play to get 0-0. Liverpool played very offensive in Barcelona and Eindhoven in the previous legs, and got very good results (1-2 and 0-3) With players as Drogba, Sheva, Crouch or Kuyt in any play, they can make a goal. I think that odds for over have value.

And I see value in scorers too. Drogba and Crouch are the maximum scorers in Champions in their teams. In any corner o foul near the goal, Crouch can score with his 2m so, the odd is very good for me.

So my picks tonight are (Betfair):

Over 2.5 @2.78. Stake 5/10
Over 1.5 at First Half @3.4. stake 3/10
Drogba to score @2.94. stake 4/10
Crouch to score @4.9. stake 3/10

PS. I'm sorry for my english. It's not very good. GL!

zteinter
25-04-07, 15:35
I was hoping for a bunch of intelligent, well thought out posts, but all I read here is "I'm sure that _______ will be in the finals".

This is no kids forum, it's not a fan forum either. You can support your team but when it comes to betting is it SO HARD to sit down and write down a useful post.

You can't be "SURE" of anything here. Not on this board. We're more serious than that.

I'll write my thoughts later on.

About time someone said it.
First of all, I am Liverpool fan, not such a "big" one as Satyr is :D
but nevertheless, its my favourite English team. However, I rarely bet on my teams since I know I am always a bit biased.
Since I am not going to bet on this game for the reason mentioned above, I will try only to give my opinion of how this game should go.

1. Chelsea is without Robben, Ballack, and maybe Carvalho. He is still a doubt, but I expect him to play cause its a huge game, and Jose will use him even though he is not 100%. They had 9 consecutive wins in the Premier League until the draw vs Newcastle, still 3 points behind Manchester United, aiming still for 4 trophies this season. A lot of pressure from the media towards Chelsea and Jose to win as much as possible, and they have dealed great with this pressure. Someone might say, their play sucks, they get too lucky sometimes,blah,blah,blah. Bottom line, who cares, they win, score in 1st or 95th minute, they simply get the job done...most of the times.
2. Liverpool after another dissapointing start of the season, has played great for the most part of the last 3-4 months. At Anfield they have always been incredibly strong, away not as much, but when they are in top form, they can beat anyone away. No injury or suspension problems for the Reds, they will be 3rd or 4th in the Premier League(not much difference there), no chances for other trophies, so they have concentrated on this match 3 weeks now.

Furthermore, I always look at Champions League knockout matches as battle between coaches. Jose and Rafa are certainly among the top 5 coaches in the world, if not the best two. Their mind games before, during and after their games are quite intriguing.
I believe that overall Mourinho is the better coach and he has clearly shown that. Dont get me wrong, Rafael Benitez is a hell of coach, great mind. But Jose has shown a lot more consistency in the past 3 years, and he deserves the credit, no matter how arrogant or egoistic he might be.
However, when it comes down to knockout games, Rafa has shown greater determination. Semi-final win two years ago in the Champions League, semi-final win last year in the FA Cup.

Bottom line, I think Jose finally beats Rafa in a game that matters a lot, barely, but they just get to Athens. If Essien and Ballack played(especially Essien), I would have taken the home win probably(even though I will cheer for Liverpool), but this leaves me guessing that it wont be easy at all for Chelsea to win tonight. However, I believe Liverpool should be under pressure tonight to score a goal. Remember, 5 games between Jose and Rafa at Stamford Bridge, 450 minutes played, O goals for Liverpool. I repeat, 0 GOALS. I think Jose wont be dissapointed with 0-0,cause he will have Essien and Ballack in six days, and he will be confident that he can get a 1-1 at Anfield.
To sum up, its a mighty hard decision what to bet on, that is why I stay away, maybe final score 0-0 or from 0-1 goals total for those considering betting.
BTW, I would really like to see what Satyr thinks about this game.
Opinions are welcomed.
GL

Timurito
25-04-07, 15:43
As I wrote before, Chelsea will become the champions , but Mourinho needs to understand that his tactics not to score is absolutely non sense. He will understand this after the match. Liverpool will not loose this game.

Satyr
25-04-07, 17:03
It seems my post provoked a couple of very good, well thought out answers. Good to hear :).

First of, let me start by saying I'm not a part of the Champions league betting hype. Most of my CL bets are taken somewhere around first knockout round and generally I rarely stake big here, mostly because there's huge money involved here and the books know what to do, the prices are set accordingly, and in most cases it's rather unpredictable.

Proceeding to tonight's clash:

A very tough game, no doubts. First thing pops into mind is of course the under. However the odds are adjusted already, and taking under 2 for less than even money isn't the best idea there if you ask me.

Having said that, I will take a stab at 0:0 exact score, 7.00, 1 unit.
Why? Because both coaches would be satisfied with it.

Kind of a paradox but we've seen that already 2 years ago. From Mourinho's point of view 0:0 means he didn't concede a goal, scoring 1 next week would mean Liverpool has to score 2.

Benitez of course, wants to stay undefeated. So expect a tactical game with a lot of covering. Remember the scene of Barca defenders passing the ball between themselves for 30 seconds, even though they had a result to chase?

Simply, there was no solution, Liverpool are damn strong in the back, but so are Chelsea. One thing that goes in favor of the Reds is Chelsea's packed schedule, and battered and bruised lineup. They have Ballack, Robben, Carvalho, Essien on the sidelines. Even though Ballack actually screwed their strategy a bit, he's still a first team player, and will be missed.


Rafa has the upper hand here if you ask me. Why you ask? I would rate these two coaches 50-50, both are extremely talented and know football. When guys like Rijkaard are concerned (putting in Gudjohnsen immediately after Liverpool tied it up at 1 was a HUGE mistake btw) I wouldn't be so sure. He could've been an excellent player, but scouting and coaching is what Rafa and Jose do the best.

Ok then. Chelsea has dominated Liverpool in and out in the Premier League, I don't even want to google up how much they thumped them over the recent years.

But cup competitions were something else:

1)CL Semifinal 2005 (if you were going to mention the non existing goal, I agree it can't be determined whether it had crossed the line, but in case it didn't, Chelsea is down to 10 men, without Cech and have a penalty to face).

2)CL group stage 2005/2006. Liverpool 1st, Chelsea 2nd.

3)FA Cup 2006: Liverpool go through after Mourinho totally choked Essien in the back and Lampard was miles from his best days.

4)Charity Shield: Meaningless, yes. But another win for Rafa.

5)The only time Chelsea went through in cup competitions was the league cup.

Has the time come for Jose to make it 2?

I'm really not sure. What I know with FULL CONFIDENCE (and you know if you read my posts that I'm always cautious, rarely confident in anything, rather observant and analytical than pretentious), that this is a 50-50 clash when it comes to who goes through.

Liverpool are focused on this one for a long time now, Chelsea have the Premiership to worry about, and a few important absentees.
These teams know each other inside out and both have huge coaching authorities on their respective benches, and I'm sure the fair odds would be 1.89 - 1.89 for example (or better, if the bookie in question has lesser margin).

Instead, we have 1.76-2.20 in Chelsea's favor.

Don't mind if I take the other side.
Liverpool to advance to final pk (2.20 @ Pinnacle) 4 units.

Have in mind, I already have two CL bets pending:

Manchester United to win Champions League (9.40) 10/10
Liverpool to win Champions League (21.92) 2 units

Both taken at Pinnacle after group stage. I also had Valencia to win it @ 23.00 but Chelsea were just better and outclassed them at Mestalla.

I could cover my remaining bets somehow, but I won't. I'll keep on betting the value when I see it.

I'm already somewhat 60 units up when CL 2006/2007 is concerned, so no worries there.

------------------Reina-------------------
--------Carra---Agger----Arbeloa------
Finnan-----------------------------Riise--
----------Xabi Alonso---Sissoko---------------
-----------------Gerrard-------------------
--------Crouch-----------Kuyt----------



I think we'll see a very interesting clash but very possibly a 0:0 or 1:1 tie.

Good luck guys. Do it Red men.

Satyr
25-04-07, 17:46
Also a possible lineup:

--------------Reina---------------
Finnan----Carragher--Agger---Arbeloa---
Gerrard---Mascherano---Alonso----Riise
------Crouch(Bellamy)--Kuyt--------

jompy
25-04-07, 17:56
i think that crouch will come in game as substitision in this match , cause my vision is that kuyt cant play whole match ..

CarinaMO
25-04-07, 18:07
Last Updated: Wednesday, 25 April 2007, 10:56 GMT 11:56 UK

Countdown to Chelsea v Liverpool
Pre-match build-up Chelsea -Liverpool team news


There is no love lost between Mourinho and Benitez
Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho has ramped up his war of words with Liverpool's Rafa Benitez ahead of their Champions League semi-final on Wednesday.

Mourinho said he would have been sacked if he had been as unsuccessful as Benitez in the Premiership.

"Three years without a league title?" he said. "I don't think I'd still be in a job. In three seasons we have got nearly 60 more points than Liverpool."

Benitez hit back: "I just don't know why Mourinho says these things."


News conference: Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho
Interview: Liverpool boss Rafael Benitez


PRE-MATCH BUILD-UP (supporter views)


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1645: "I've had to cancel training so I can watch the Reds. So sorry to Horsted U14s but you'll learn more from this game than I can ever teach you."
Paul

1616: "It all depends on the first 15 minutes. If Liverpool can contain Chelsea, then I think they can get a valuable away goal - still nervous though."
Neilpired, Liverpool

1602: Cheeky Chelsea boss Jose Mourinho reckons Liverpool are favourites to reach the final, but the bookies disagree. William Hill make Chelsea 9/10 to win, with Liverpool 3/1.

1545: "Nervous anticipation in the office. A huge night ahead. 2-0 Chelsea, Drogba to get brace."

1505: "Tense atmosphere in the city at the moment but also a quiet sense of confidence. I predict a 2-1 win to Liverpool."
David Naylor, Liverpool

1443: Luis Garcia has been having his say about the goal that knocked Chelsea out in the 2005 semi-final. Blues boss Jose Mourinho simply refuses to recognise it as a goal. But Garcia, who is currently injured, tells the Liverpool website: "That goal gives me so many very good memories. It was very clear to me at the time that it was over the line, which is why I started the celebration." That's cleared that up then.

Flashback: Liverpool 1-0 Chelsea
1428: "I think Liverpool will be cagey and try to make Chelsea take the attacking initiative."
MrBlueBurns

1345: "Very tense atmosphere. Feeling it in the stomach. Predict Liverpool to take the advantage into the second leg."
Martyn P, Liverpool

1312: "2-0 to the Chels. Sheva and Joey Cole to score. 1-1 at Anfield. Blues v AC final."

"We know we have the ability to beat them, we just have to do it now on the pitch. We are certainly up for it, and this seems to be our competition these days."
Liverpool hitman Peter Crouch

"I think its going to be a 1-1 draw tonight. Liverpool will play for a 0-0 on the return and fail miserably. Result: Blues go through!!"
Chiefduffer

"I will play against Liverpool without thinking of what happened in that cursed final in 2005. They are very strong, especially in the Champions League."
Chelsea striker Andriy Shevchenko

"Chelsea are without Ballack and Essien - massive players in midfield. The only thing is that Chelsea have been at the business end a bit more so are tuned in to a game. Liverpool have been coasting through unimportant Premiership games, so can they switch on?"
Lackery


TEAM NEWS AHEAD OF 1945 BST KICK OFF
Chelsea will be without German midfielder Michael Ballack as he picked up an ankle injury in the Premiership at Newcastle on Sunday.

Michael Essien is suspended for the game, so Mikel Jon Obi looks set to feature in the midfield.

Arjen Robben (knee) is still missing, but Portuguese defender Ricardo Carvalho trained on Tuesday and could recover from his leg injury in time.

Chelsea (probable): Cech, Diarra, Cole, Carvalho, Terry, Makelele, Mikel, Lampard, Wright-Phillips, Shevchenko, Drogba.

Liverpool right-back Steve Finnan has recovered from a neck injury and will be fit to take his place in the starting line-up.

Central defender Jamie Carragher is set to equal Ian Callaghan's club record of 89 European games for the Reds.

Boss Rafael Benitez has no new injury worries and no suspensions to contend with.

Liverpool (probable): Reina, Finnan, Arbeloa, Agger, Carragher, Gerrard, Alonso, Mascherano, Riise, Bellamy, Kuyt.

zekikum
25-04-07, 19:34
over 2 goals
odds: 2.06

ok, whats this? last night an ***305;talian and an english team played a game ended 3-2 but bookies still offer these odds? totally wrong imo!
we, punters are thinking classical way, bookies know it; "both teams will be very careful to not lose and concede a goal" even a part of me thinks that too, i will go against bookies this time, ts classical 1980s and 1990s thought that both teams will play to not losing.
Even in Holland Liverpool scored 3 and past the 2,5 line by himself where odds were nearly same. Also in away game against Barca they won 2-1 and past the line again. I expect a lot of death balls, corners to bring goal/s
of course for a cl game only 4 units for me.
1 unit to away side
odds: 4.25 (a bit value imo)

Binny
25-04-07, 19:49
over 2 goals
odds: 2.06

ok, whats this? last night an ***305;talian and an english team played a game ended 3-2 but bookies still offer these odds? totally wrong imo!
we, punters are thinking classical way, bookies know it; "both teams will be very careful to not lose and concede a goal" even a part of me thinks that too, i will go against bookies this time, ts classical 1980s and 1990s thought that both teams will play to not losing.
Even in Holland Liverpool scored 3 and past the 2,5 line by himself where odds were nearly same. Also in away game against Barca they won 2-1 and past the line again. I expect a lot of death balls, corners to bring goal/s
of course for a cl game only 4 units for me.
1 unit to away side
odds: 4.25 (a bit value imo)


Manutd - Milan was a great OVEr bet mainly because of manutd defence problems but also because of manutd & Milans attack power.

and we cannot compare last nights game with chelsea - liverpool because - Chelsea - Liverpool know each other very well,maybe to well,both team have solid defence and these are 2 physical sides more than technical sides.Also ONLY 5 out of 18 last meetings between these two team gone OVER.

Both teams ,especially chelsea have world class players that can score from any place of the field and a early goal can do a lot with a game but i believe the odds are almost correct.

BUT LIverpoool wan`t a away goal for sure and chelsea wan`t at least 2 goals before 2nd leg at anfield so OVER 2 might be worth a shot but i`ll stay away.GL

cassano
25-04-07, 20:01
This is the definition of no bet match.

I am pretty sure that first target of Mourinho will be Liverpool not to score .Chelsea won't mind a 0-0 as they will be closer to advance with that score.

On the other hand Benitez would say no to a draw as I believe that Liverpool are more confident when playing in Anfield.

Personally I will bet 0-0 half or one stake, just for entertainment and not to get pissed by the boring match I expect to watch. GL

Binny
25-04-07, 20:08
Boudewijn Zenden Apps/goals

1994/95 PSV 27 5 Eredivisie
1995/96 PSV 25 7 Eredivisie
1996/97 PSV 34 8 Eredivisie
1997/98 PSV 26 12 Eredivisie
1998/99 Barcelona 25 0 Primera Division
1999/00 Barcelona 29 2 Primera Division
2000/01 Barcelona 10 0 Primera Division
2001/02 Chelsea 21 3 Premiership
2002/03 Chelsea 21 1 Premiership
2003/04 Middlesbrough 31 4 Premiership
2004/05 Middlesbrough 36 5 Premiership
2005/06 Liverpool 7 2 Premiership


Not the most profilic goal scorer but today will start and maybe not the players chelsea are fearing the most.Whatever he done earlier today odds is a simply to high i believe

Zenden to score first @ 34 Centrebet/totalbet/betdirect

4/10


2006/07 Liverpool 14 0 Premiership

Satyr
25-04-07, 20:13
Binny, I sincerely doubt that "Chelsea want at least a 2 goal difference" prior to the match at Anfield, I would be keen to think both managers will be focused on guarding their net first, scoring second.

We could see several goals, I'm not saying the under is a lock, by no means, but I can't see an open match here, not even close.
Anyways, GL.

Binny
25-04-07, 20:23
Binny, I sincerely doubt that "Chelsea want at least a 2 goal difference" prior to the match at Anfield, I would be keen to think both managers will be focused on guarding their net first, scoring second.

We could see several goals, I'm not saying the under is a lock, by no means, but I can't see an open match here, not even close.
Anyways, GL.


Well mate ,as a liverpool fan you should know that anfield is one of the most feared ground in whole world.Course chelsea wan`t a couple goals at home especially now that Robben can`t save them in 2nd leg :D


and you also shopuld not believe what maurinho says

and when you already have placed a bet on Liverpookl to win champions league you should also not place a bet on them to advance.No good if Chelsea go to final then.Maybe chelsea to win was better but only my opionion. :) I hope for your team tonight and in 14 days :)

Satyr
25-04-07, 21:41
The thing is, I decided to treat everything equal as I would when I didn't have that bet, and I rate this clash as 50-50, hence the bet.

Anyways, small HT update:
tough game so far, Chelsea a little more initiative up front as expected (they are playing at home after all), I'm surprised Finnan didn't start, also Sissoko, Crouch, I don't rate Bellamy or Zenden highly.

Anyways, a very tough clash, could go either way now, if it stays like this it's still a pretty much anyone's semi, if Chelsea win by 2 or 3 goals then it's hard for Liverpool to get back, 1:1 would make it completely unpredictable.

Let's wait and see...

Satyr
25-04-07, 22:50
Congrats Chelsea fans and backers, a well deserved win. Liverpool fans and backers can regret Gerrard's volley and superb save by Cech, but Chelsea had their chances in the 2nd half as well, needless to mention Liverpool would have their chances slashed near zero had Chelsea scored the 2nd.

Liverpool still have a chance to go through, even though it will be very hard.

Can't wait for the second leg.

Btw I really don't rate Zenden nor Bellamy high, I hope Rafa will play Crouch and Finnan instead of Arbeloa.

Gambet
26-04-07, 00:01
today result is positive of course but let's see what's happen on Anfield but only my team play in the final match in Athens :D

starley
26-04-07, 03:04
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Mido0o
29-04-07, 23:16
I think Chelsea will win this match cuz Milan today isn't Milan i knowed in last years but more week

but i relly hope milan will win

Satyr
29-04-07, 23:20
I think Chelsea will win this match cuz Milan today isn't Milan i knowed in last years but more week

but i relly hope milan will win

lol

Hikaru1985
01-05-07, 07:35
UE CHAMPIONS
LIVERPOOL vs CHELSEA
2.30 3.00 2.77
<2> <3> <2>

My local bookmarker seems to have higher odds.
Those in brackets are the opening odds...
2.77 on chelsea looks tasty

Mellow
01-05-07, 08:16
Over 2 goals is my forecast

Liverpool need to score at least 1 goal, with many of their stars rested on the weekend as this competition is their main priority. finnan and crouch are expected to return to the line-up.

Chelsea faultered on the weekend against bolton as mourinho also tinkered with his side to give some of his stars a rest. ballack is out, and so is calvarho an important figure in the back.

the first 30 mins of each of the halves in the last meeting was played at a high paced and not one many people expected to see. Chelsea could have been up 2-0 at the break, and liverpool had their chances to score early in the 2nd half with kuyts header and gerrards volley fantastically saved by cech.

feel the opening on this match will see an early goal as i feel chelsea will wait for the 2nd half before attacking, giving liverpool possession and with the crowd find it hard to not see them scoring. if we see a goal in the first half, expect this bet to win easily.

5/10 Over 2 goals is my prediction.

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