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Nothing against your work, but you tend to use sometimes nonexisting AH lines or odds that have never been or are not up-to-date :oops: Today again with Al Muharraq, that had never been -1 at Pinnacle, always -1,25.
Your work there is pretty much appreciated, but I dont think you need to raise you profit this way. Think about it ;)
Pinnacle took the above game offline just after Jeries posted on the main page.
Pinnacle -1.25 1.83 0.01 2.11 0.02 98.0 % 12:48
Mon 09 Apr 23:15 1.84 0.10 2.09 0.11
Mon 09 Apr 22:24 1.94 0.07 1.98 0.06
Mon 09 Apr 22:05 2.01 1.92
Pinnacle NEVER offered this line. Yes, they removed it after Jeries post, but -1,25 at some 1,83. Never -1 AH. And this is not the only case by far.
well, if Pinnacle is allowed as a bookie for arabic leagues on the main site with their ridiculous limits of 37 euro (only the first BA reader can make a use of it) why should not be allowed to post wrong lines :)
honestly, when I saw such "mistake" for the very first time, I said to myself "a mistake obviously". Then I saw it again, again, ... and again, and consequently I do not care about anymore. So many times I took a bet at bwin, and a few hours later there appeared an arabic pick on main site citing odds that were not available even when I took my bet several hours before...
Regarding Muharaq -1 was not available ever, even when they opened it...
I am sorry for tipsters like Drobek to compete in such a "competition" where non-existing odds or even lines are "recommended" so many times :( It is a shame ...
I did't see -1 AH too. But i saw and took -1.5 AH for sure. Are you sure that there was not -1 AH too ?
I did't see -1 AH too. But i saw and took -1.5 AH for sure. Are you sure that there was not -1 AH too ?
Yes, they started with -1,25 with odds dropping slowly. After Jeries released his post, it dropped, they changed line to -1,5 and after that removed.
Finished 2-1 for Muharraq btw.
Also one of "favourite" things of Jeries is to void European hcp in case they won just by 1.
Nothing against your work, but you tend to use sometimes nonexisting AH lines or odds that have never been or are not up-to-date :oops: Today again with Al Muharraq, that had never been -1 at Pinnacle, always -1,25.
Your work there is pretty much appreciated, but I dont think you need to raise you profit this way. Think about it ;)
what u talk about :idea:
well , I agree with u . sometimes after I write my picks , odds go down , or if they see hight stake on my bet , they might even remove it .
Its shame , but the only way I guess is to give u this picks before even write it , so u can win for sure .
but Im afraid , hard to do this !
Nothing against your work, but you tend to use sometimes nonexisting AH lines or odds that have never been or are not up-to-date :oops: Today again with Al Muharraq, that had never been -1 at Pinnacle, always -1,25.
Your work there is pretty much appreciated, but I dont think you need to raise you profit this way. Think about it ;)
what u talk about :idea:
This time about your pick
2007-04-10 Al MuharraqHandicap(0:1) - Al Helal Al-Sahely
if they win by one Goal , u get ur stake back
Line wasnt -1, but -1,25 and after your post -1,5 for some small minutes.
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
So what do you suggest? That we only allow picks on major leagues where there are decent limits?
Nothing against your work, but you tend to use sometimes nonexisting AH lines or odds that have never been or are not up-to-date :oops: Today again with Al Muharraq, that had never been -1 at Pinnacle, always -1,25.
Your work there is pretty much appreciated, but I dont think you need to raise you profit this way. Think about it ;)
what u talk about :idea:
This time about your pick
2007-04-10 Al MuharraqHandicap(0:1) - Al Helal Al-Sahely
if they win by one Goal , u get ur stake back
Line wasnt -1, but -1,25 and after your post -1,5 for some small minutes.
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
well , its your opinion , but for me Its not :)
and I started one day to show people my winings slips to prove that , but BA managers refused to do this .
what else I can do for u and others then man ?
and to be honest I win lots , and many people who read this now know for sure about it , becuase they win even more than u think .
I know its abit not fair for u guys , I fully understand this , but again I cant do anything else unless u have some good Idea
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
So what do you suggest? That we only allow picks on major leagues where there are decent limits?
I have nothing again picks from Bwin, Sportingbet and other. But to recommend a bet with 37e limit on mainpage? Dont tell me you dont understand the difference.
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
So what do you suggest? That we only allow picks on major leagues where there are decent limits?
U guys should be happy by the way to get free picks , even if u win 10 Euro .
many others pay for this picks and offer lots of money .
Unless u and some others want me to stop writing here in BA fourm .
I have no problem with this as well , I care more about real profit more than be the top of BA forum by the way
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet. But unfortunately, last time Jeries winning alot on bets on african cups which we can't take in bwin (becouse they cut limits for almost anyone) and can't take anywhere else.
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
So what do you suggest? That we only allow picks on major leagues where there are decent limits?
I have nothing again picks from Bwin, Sportingbet and other. But to recommend a bet with 37e limit on mainpage? Dont tell me you dont understand the difference.
what if that is the maximum that you can stake on that league at any bookie? are you saying that we should remove those kinds of bets/leagues from the mainpage?
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
So what do you suggest? That we only allow picks on major leagues where there are decent limits?
U guys should be happy by the way to get free picks , even if u win 10 Euro .
many others pay for this picks and offer lots of money .
Unless u and some others want me to stop writing here in BA fourm .
I have no problem with this as well , I care more about real profit more than be the top of BA forum by the way
Yeah. There is only thing exist - what can be better than Jeries picks in BA forum. Payed service with payed bets before publishing it on BA forum. I'm also can offer lost of money for his bets :)
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet. But unfortunately, last time Jeries winning alot on bets on african cups which we can't take in bwin (becouse they cut limits for almost anyone) and can't take anywhere else.
well , with my african picks I won 1800 Euro from bookies , sorry again to say this , because I have been asked not to .
but evreybodey has his own way to bet man .
and I promiss u and all others , as long as Im here and have time to write , I will never stop post picks untill I get 10,000 point :D
dont worry , market get bigger and I get more close even , I hope next time u will get better picks and some bookies promissed me even soon llimits will be higer , so its going to be ok :)
well , its your opinion , but for me Its not :)
and I started one day to show people my winings slips to prove that , but BA managers refused to do this .
what else I can do for u and others then man ?
and to be honest I win lots , and many people who read this now know for sure about it , becuase they win even more than u think .
I know its abit not fair for u guys , I fully understand this , but again I cant do anything else unless u have some good Idea
Well, the main point was (again) a wrong line.
If you talk about these leagues generally... first, you fight with yourself. Bookies are definitely better on these leagues, you dont have such a big profit as lets say a half a year ago and going this way, you will drop to usual numbers as other tipsters there. Making these leagues popular means attracting the bookies attention.
You make a big mistake with releasing your picks several days ahead, bookies slash the odds many days before the match comes and if they lose big (like with Tadhammon), they will remember it the more. And next time will be careful. If you release picks on the game day, you could slow this process down.
Please, this is not meant as a message against you. I fully appreciate you work here. But take it as a warning. Same warning I gave a half a year ago. If you keep it the same way, in one year´s time you will hardly find such valueable odds and make profit as you have done so far. You have already suffered a bit of a downward and this will get even worse. You may win a lot now, but with this way you fight yourself. And this cant win this fight, just lose it.
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet. But unfortunately, last time Jeries winning alot on bets on african cups which we can't take in bwin (becouse they cut limits for almost anyone) and can't take anywhere else.
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
you just have to be joking with that comment. :o
well , its your opinion , but for me Its not :)
and I started one day to show people my winings slips to prove that , but BA managers refused to do this .
what else I can do for u and others then man ?
and to be honest I win lots , and many people who read this now know for sure about it , becuase they win even more than u think .
I know its abit not fair for u guys , I fully understand this , but again I cant do anything else unless u have some good Idea
Well, the main point was (again) a wrong line.
If you talk about these leagues generally... first, you fight with yourself. Bookies are definitely better on these leagues, you dont have such a big profit as lets say a half a year ago and going this way, you will drop to usual numbers as other tipsters there. Making these leagues popular means attracting the bookies attention.
You make a big mistake with releasing your picks several days ahead, bookies slash the odds many days before the match comes and if they lose big (like with Tadhammon), they will remember it the more. And next time will be careful. If you release picks on the game day, you could slow this process down.
Please, this is not meant as a message against you. I fully appreciate you work here. But take it as a warning. Same warning I gave a half a year ago. If you keep it the same way, in one year´s time you will hardly find such valueable odds and make profit as you have done so far. You have already suffered a bit of a downward and this will get even worse. You may win a lot now, but with this way you fight yourself. And this cant win this fight, just lose it.
well , its hard to expalin more , and I cant say evreything here .
so , No comment man .
Thanks for the advaice
And sure, another question is, whether a bookie with 37 euro limit should be allowed to be used for public picks at all. For me its a joke and it helps nobody, but its not up to me.
So what do you suggest? That we only allow picks on major leagues where there are decent limits?
I have nothing again picks from Bwin, Sportingbet and other. But to recommend a bet with 37e limit on mainpage? Dont tell me you dont understand the difference.
what if that is the maximum that you can stake on that league at any bookie? are you saying that we should remove those kinds of bets/leagues from the mainpage?
Yes, 37 euro to be staken from all over the world on one pick and after that the odds are GONE, then yes - this is not worth the mainpage of BA. This is a joke imho.
Its nice that Jeries has 700 units of profit, but his 700 units are worth NOTHING if this profit is made on bets like this. Compare it to the picks from Macot or Lakini, which can be taken by thousands of people, not by one.
I have nothing against his picks from Bwin or Sportingbet, this can be easily bet with good money, but giving picks with 37 euro limit is absolutely a degradeting the reputation of BA.
well , its hard to expalin more , and I cant say evreything here .
agreed.
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet. But unfortunately, last time Jeries winning alot on bets on african cups which we can't take in bwin (becouse they cut limits for almost anyone) and can't take anywhere else.
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
no way. If you losing alot money in this bookmakers - then yes. But if you will afew there - they will cut your limits to afew dollars per any event. For example, Bwin did it with me after 3 days of playing there.
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet.
heh, yes, but the very first person who take the bet with 37 euro destroy odds (let's say from 1,96 to 1,86) and he is able to make Jeries's % profit in long-term. Second person take 1,86 (and destroy it to 1,75) and he still makes some profit long-term... all other followers will lose in long-term :)
It is quite funny to post such bets that can help to 2 followers only :) Anyway, that's BA policy and I do not care about it...
I saw several times handicaps on main site from Sportingbet voided, although the bet should be marked as a lost bet. I am just sad for Drobek and other guys who show serious effort here and use existing odds and lines
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet. But unfortunately, last time Jeries winning alot on bets on african cups which we can't take in bwin (becouse they cut limits for almost anyone) and can't take anywhere else.
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
no way. If you losing alot money in this bookmakers - then yes. But if you will afew there - they will cut your limits to afew dollars per any event. For example, Bwin did it with me after 3 days of playing there.
Still, another people can bet it with solid money. At Pinnacle only and only 37e, no more no matter what. Some people have even more accounts.
The point is clear - with Pinnacle it can only 1 bet be made. With other bookies many more.
bets from pinnacle - it's best what Jeries can to do ! 37 euro it's much more than limits in bwin and sportingbet.
heh, yes, but the very first person who take the bet with 37 euro destroy odds (let's say from 1,96 to 1,86) and he is able to make Jeries's % profit in long-term. Second person take 1,86 (and destroy it to 1,75) and he still makes some profit long-term... all other followers will lose in long-term :)
It is quite funny to post such bets that can help to 2 followers only :) Anyway, that's BA policy and I do not care about it...
I saw several times handicaps on main site from Sportingbet voided, although the bet should be marked as a lost bet. I am just sad for Drobek and other guys who show serious effort here and use existing odds and lines
There is no other variation. With such profit as Jeries have - every bookmaker will drop odds or revome immediatelly on any league. So, anyway, it's best what he can to do.
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
you just have to be joking with that comment. :o
No, I am not. I bet these leagues everywhere, but Pinnacle with 37e per game and after that dropping their odds is a real problem. Sportingbet absolutely no, Bwin partly, but there are always some ways. At Pinnacle no way.
Still, another people can bet it with solid money. At Pinnacle only and only 37e, no more no matter what. Some people have even more accounts.
The point is clear - with Pinnacle it can only 1 bet be made. With other bookies many more.
With other, but now with Bwin or sportingbet. If you open afew account in Bwin - they will close your account without explanation or payout. Read more in "black list of bookmakers" topic.
Bookies watch BA and adjust odds accordingly......it doesnt always need someone placing a bet to do it.
Bookies watch BA and adjust odds accordingly......it doesnt always need someone placing a bet to do it.
Yes and Pinnacle with some joky 37 euro needs really to care a lot, when they accept 15k euro bets for NBA etc. :D
GrimReaper01
10-04-07, 20:36
This is ridiculous...
Well, everybody say in the past "Oh bwin is bad, and they are crap, I hope pinnacle offers these leagues". Now Pinnacle offers leagues with "limit" at 58 Euros!!!
Guys are you clever enough? I bet more than 300 in Mahindra United today, even with limit of 58 Euros! Why? but because I put 6 bets of 50 Euros in Mahindra -0.5! The limit is for the line! Not for the game! When the line changes you can bet again.
You all say in the forum about "how great bookie is pinnacle". Well guys, sorry but Pinnacle is ****! These guys have put a programme that reduces the line whenever somebody bets! It is ridiculous that my first 50 Euros for Mahindra was at odds 2.01, and my 6th bet at odds 1.86!!!! Everytime I bet, odds go down!
It is not Jeries's fault that Pinnacle is not a serious bookmaker! Bwin are by far more serious than Pinnacle in these leagues! So stop attacking Jeries because of Pinnacle's behaviour! Yes Al Muharaq was -1 at 1.84 I think... Well, it need 3 bets on Al Muharaq to see the line -1 @ 1.65. Of course pinnacle don't permit odds like these and instantly they raise the line at -1.25!!! Until somebody bets again and then the line goes -1.5... You can't blame Jeries that he steals...
The problem here is not Jeries. The problem is that Pinnacle is a ridiculous bookmaker!
Another example, Yesterday they had Dubai - Al Nassr over 2.5 at 1.7... I put 3 bets of 50 Euros and then they offered over 2.75 at 1.84...
Pinnacle are just a big joke! Jeries find the odds and posts his picks... If you don't like these picks, then guys PLEASE DON'T TAKE THEM! So that we can find better odds before you make them go down!!!
Just because of my experience with Pinnacle Joker Bookmaker
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
you just have to be joking with that comment. :o
No, I am not. I bet these leagues everywhere, but Pinnacle with 37e per game and after that dropping their odds is a real problem. Sportingbet absolutely no, Bwin partly, but there are always some ways. At Pinnacle no way.
Betandwin reduced my limit to £5 on ALL leagues simply because I trebled my bank in just under a week following Jeries.
Bookies watch BA and adjust odds accordingly......it doesnt always need someone placing a bet to do it.
is there any way to see notifications about new picks on BA automatically ? :)
It is ridiculous that my first 50 Euros for Mahindra was at odds 2.01, and my 6th bet at odds 1.86!!!! Everytime I bet, odds go down!
Hmm, you were more confident on that than me, I only got 1.86 and 1.80
Sorry but limits at Sportingbet or Bwin are absolutely uncomparably higher than Pinnacle. And the point is, that after 1 bet at Pinnacle odds are gone. No matter how many account you have, how many euros you have, once you bet 37 euro, the odds drop by 0,15.
you just have to be joking with that comment. :o
No, I am not. I bet these leagues everywhere, but Pinnacle with 37e per game and after that dropping their odds is a real problem. Sportingbet absolutely no, Bwin partly, but there are always some ways. At Pinnacle no way.
Betandwin reduced my limit to £5 on ALL leagues simply because I trebled my bank in just under a week following Jeries.
Yes, cause you dont know how to play with them. You can win really a lot until you get limits, but need to have the know-how.
Bookies watch BA and adjust odds accordingly......it doesnt always need someone placing a bet to do it.
is there any way to see notifications about new picks on BA automatically ? :)
This has been spoken about before. Not sure if it will be a feature of the 'new BA' when it appears, but it has been mentioned.
Betandwin reduced my limit to £5 on ALL leagues simply because I trebled my bank in just under a week following Jeries.
Agree. They reduced my limit to something like it after i lost about 500 dollars there !!! Crap bookmaker with crap reputation.
GrimReaper01
10-04-07, 20:43
You make a big mistake with releasing your picks several days ahead, bookies slash the odds many days before the match comes and if they lose big (like with Tadhammon), they will remember it the more. And next time will be careful. If you release picks on the game day, you could slow this process down.
Man, I think that ba policy is to place bets on main page at least 3 hours before the game starts... Well, maybe Jeries works, or is absent or something like that...
GrimReaper01
10-04-07, 20:43
Bookies watch BA and adjust odds accordingly......it doesnt always need someone placing a bet to do it.
is there any way to see notifications about new picks on BA automatically ? :)
do you know betradar? ;)
Anyway, I dont really want to talk about the things that started here.
The point of this topic is clear: Muharraq was never -1 AH, still it was published with this line on mainpage. Its easy to make such a profit with nonexisting lines. And this not the first case. I just wanted to say this.
Well my honest opinion about Jeries' picks is the following:
Nothing against you Jeries, but your picks are useless for serious gamblers. Bookies such as bwin, sporting or even Pinnacle will reduce the stake and not even accept a bet of a few hundred euros on your leagues. The market isn't fluent enough and seeing you being on the top of BA, even a bigger number of people placing small stakes on your bets will make the margin system not work.
The odds moving has NOTHING to do with the bookies only following your knowledge. The problem is the margin system which won't work as too many people will place bets on your pick and therefore the total stakes won't be balanced anymore.
Once again I must admit I am really impressed by your knowledge about Arabic leagues, but there aren't any bookies in Asia for example who are accepting regular amounts or limits on that kind of league. Sad but true.
Jerias trying to do his best. We must say thanks to him for it and hope for more bets on national teams. This kind of bets accepting alot bookmakers with high limits. Once i saw pinnacle accepted 4000$ limits on Algir-Libia friendly match...and removed line !!! you just can't image how much people trying to bet on Jeries picks !! Every bookmaker will remove or drop lines immediatelly . It's just showing his quality.
GrimReaper01
10-04-07, 20:50
Nothing against you Jeries, but your picks are useless for serious gamblers.
I disagree man.. You are serious gambler? You can put 1000 and more on a game? Well then make a combo with Jeries African picks, and put 300... Then you have odds @ 26 multiplied by 300... And you have nice profit...
(I am not a serious gambler, so I put only 50 Euros on this combo... Anyway, I am happy for that :D )
but there aren't any bookies in Asia for example who are accepting regular amounts or limits on that kind of league. Sad but true.
Up until fairly recently only B&W were offerring the more obscure leagues but now others are starting. Eventually bookies will become better informed on these leagues and offer margins accordingly. They just need to become as well informed as they are with major leagues.
Grimm:
To really put 300 euros on a combo of such leagues, you need to know the estimations by Jeries which he is not posting. Let's say he takes 2 bets having a winning chance of 50%, for a doublebet, your winning chance is only 25%. To stay in profit and follow the full profit of Jeries, at least 1 bigger asian bookie would need to offer acceptable limits - and that's not the case.
By the way, making the post you just made, you just prooved to have no idea about betting taking it seriously...
CG: Which bookies are accepting " regular " limits on Jeries' leagues, let's say to keep the limits low 500 euro ?
GrimReaper01
10-04-07, 20:58
I am sure there are asian bookies offering these leagues, maybe not online bookies, but other bookies, locals.
But man, we talk about a guy who loses 1 or 2 bets out of 10! There isn't anything to be afraid of... Espescially when you can easily put 3000 Euros on a fixed game in European Leagues, 300 is nothing
CG: Which bookies are accepting " regular " limits on Jeries' leagues, let's say to keep the limits low 500 euro ?
none as far as i know.
I am sure there are asian bookies offering these leagues, maybe not online bookies, but other bookies, locals.
But man, we talk about a guy who loses 1 or 2 bets out of 10! There isn't anything to be afraid of... Espescially when you can easily put 3000 Euros on a fixed game in European Leagues, 300 is nothing
Ok please tell me just ONE.
He hits 5.5 of 10 bets to be more detailled and not 8... don't talk crap if you haven't obviously ANY idea about what you are really discussing...
GrimReaper01
10-04-07, 21:10
I had heard that Asia had offered UAE league... but I really don't know about that... I prefer betting for fun, and not trying to destroy my life...
But to tell you the truth, I am not trying to find where Jeries is right or wrong. Maybe you are from these psychos that keep archive with Jeries bets. Maybe you are that envy of him winning thousands of Euros just with a bet of 20 or 10 Euros that you will post here a complete analysis of Jeries way of betting...
Well I just know that Jeries put 2 times some games from Africa... First time I created small combos and I won 1000 Euros because of him... Now I made a big combo and I won 1300... From all these games Jeries lost 1 or 2... Maybe I am lucky and I follow him only in his good days... Well I have no problem with that... There is no reason to be envy about a guy that helps other people by posting his picks...
I hope Jeries post some "wrong picks" and guys like you bet some good money on them... Of course Jeries will take the best odds from this situation and win much money... And I will be happy for that, because you just have bad words to say for him...
Jeries is one of tha best tipster in here,and everyone here knows it!
Yes, he is playin asian matches and some african,but that is what the guy knows best.And he is using it big time!
We all can learn alot from him,and it's allways good to have someone like him overhere.
By the way, he is allways open to help anyone and to give a good advice!
Jeries keep with the good work!!! :D
Andrew and Fubinho are right ;)
Ok, let's skip the discussion about Pinnacle, limits and about blind followers who do not care about value and take undervalued odds.
The main point is: how long will be BA tipsters allowed to post lines that has never existed and secondly to post odds that are not available at the moment of posting.... Quite funny situation here, tipsters are cheating so often and no one cares? It seems cheating on main site is allowed... or it may be normal to post wrong lines every week by mistake hehe :D
The only way wrong lines/odds are accepted on the mainsite is simply if Terje doesnt find out about them. T, myself, other mods, we cant check EVERY single bet that is placed on the mainsite so we rely on people mentioning these things to one of us. This is then mentioned in the Mods forum and taken from there.
This site is on the recline lately sad to say, quantity instead of quality...and all this talk about poor Jeries...totally uninteresting for a regular punter...the Asia section is a joke...no offence meant.
Well my honest opinion about Jeries' picks is the following:
Nothing against you Jeries, but your picks are useless for serious gamblers. Bookies such as bwin, sporting or even Pinnacle will reduce the stake and not even accept a bet of a few hundred euros on your leagues. The market isn't fluent enough and seeing you being on the top of BA, even a bigger number of people placing small stakes on your bets will make the margin system not work.
The odds moving has NOTHING to do with the bookies only following your knowledge. The problem is the margin system which won't work as too many people will place bets on your pick and therefore the total stakes won't be balanced anymore.
Once again I must admit I am really impressed by your knowledge about Arabic leagues, but there aren't any bookies in Asia for example who are accepting regular amounts or limits on that kind of league. Sad but true.
Agree...
This site is on the recline lately sad to say, quantity instead of quality...and all this talk about poor Jeries...totally uninteresting for a regular punter...the Asia section is a joke...no offence meant.
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This site is on the recline lately sad to say, quantity instead of quality...and all this talk about poor Jeries...totally uninteresting for a regular punter...the Asia section is a joke...no offence meant.
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everyone knows you dont have a heart so who did you steal that from?
it should be black lol /FiDu
I think it's too harsh to say that the site is packed with tipsters who post wrong odds, and that they're doing it on purpose...even worse.
BA is on the decline, but it's mostly because this version of BA is outdated, old, and the system is shaky, meaning removing tipsters from the mainpage is a liability, as database might crash. Terje will explain it better.
However, Terje is preparing a new version of BA, which should be out within some reasonable period of time, and hopefully we'll turn a new leaf in BA history then, acquiring only proven tipsters for the mainpage, the best guys who will try hard with their writeups and have a record to prove it.
About Jeries: How can you dislike the guy? I don't know about wrong odds posting as I really cannot check that, but the fact is, he's still super useful when Asian football is concerned, it's not his fault that the market is shitty when such bets are concerned. However, his 700 units should be looked from a different perspective due to these limits, I agree, but he still didn't do anything wrong by merely posting there.
As I said, I don't have a clue about posting wrong odds.
I think it's too harsh to say that the site is packed with tipsters who post wrong odds, and that they're doing it on purpose...even worse.
BA is on the decline, but it's mostly because this version of BA is outdated, old, and the system is shaky, meaning removing tipsters from the mainpage is a liability, as database might crash. Terje will explain it better.
However, Terje is preparing a new version of BA, which should be out within some reasonable period of time, and hopefully we'll turn a new leaf in BA history then, acquiring only proven tipsters for the mainpage, the best guys who will try hard with their writeups and have a record to prove it.
About Jeries: How can you dislike the guy? I don't know about wrong odds posting as I really cannot check that, but the fact is, he's still super useful when Asian football is concerned, it's not his fault that the market is (censored) when such bets are concerned. However, his 700 units should be looked from a different perspective due to these limits, I agree, but he still didn't do anything wrong by merely posting there.
As I said, I don't have a clue about posting wrong odds.
You are right. I saw many tipsters services with about 10-15% profit and odds on their bets often exist less than 1 minute after bets writen ! So, Jeries have more than 20% profit and everyone can read his bets for free. So, you can imagine how much minutes, pardon, secunds will exist his odds. No wrong odds. Just immediatelly dropping.
2 CG: I understand... so now you were informed, if you check odds archive or betradar or any other tool, you will find easily that let's say every 15th bet was a cheat ( fake line or odds). So what happens now? Very easy to find the answer. Nothing...
The scenario is simple, some people are VIP for BA as they attract many visitors. They can even post wrong lines, it was revealed, it can be proved, but nothing will happen...
This is exactly what destroy the reputation of the site.
Honestly, I respect Jeries's knowledge of Arabic soccer, I do not care about his bets though. I don't care about cheating on main site either, but I am really sad for all hard working tipsters at BA who follow rules, make their best and help people without unfair methods.
Let's see if anything happens, I would bet that it will be swept under carpet as usual :)
There is not a lot that either myself or any Mods can do about it apart from mention it to Terje, but it certainly wont be 'swept under the carpet'.
I had heard that Asia had offered UAE league... but I really don't know about that... I prefer betting for fun, and not trying to destroy my life...
But to tell you the truth, I am not trying to find where Jeries is right or wrong. Maybe you are from these psychos that keep archive with Jeries bets. Maybe you are that envy of him winning thousands of Euros just with a bet of 20 or 10 Euros that you will post here a complete analysis of Jeries way of betting...
Well I just know that Jeries put 2 times some games from Africa... First time I created small combos and I won 1000 Euros because of him... Now I made a big combo and I won 1300... From all these games Jeries lost 1 or 2... Maybe I am lucky and I follow him only in his good days... Well I have no problem with that... There is no reason to be envy about a guy that helps other people by posting his picks...
I hope Jeries post some "wrong picks" and guys like you bet some good money on them... Of course Jeries will take the best odds from this situation and win much money... And I will be happy for that, because you just have bad words to say for him...
well stake like 53 on one game per day ( I mean sure pick ) not bad even .
the month is 30 days , lets take only 2o days .
45 X 20 = 900 :)
its nice 900 evrey month , no need to work even .
but again the question is u wont be able to win like me , becuase I place the bet fisrt and I take the odds first as many of u said guys , I know its not fair , one of the main reasons I post some picks here to make other people win , I can place it myself alone and nobodey see it , and again I care for real money and real profit here , I dont care to be number one or number 10 .
if guys really believe I should not be one of ur tipsters list , its ok for me :)
Im not tipster anyway , im man love football more than anything and specially Arabian and African football , becuase I born there and I still untill this age follow all teams and players and media news there , and when bookies start to offer these odds , i start to bet for fun and use it for real money , becuase I believe its free gift for me and easy money I never ever thought in my life will come like this !!
and I made name to myself from these leagues without even care about anything else .
but u must know and believe one of the main reasons I write here is to make others win like me , maybe less than me , but some money for many other people mean lots ,
and while Im writing this and many people read , there is many people offer even to pay me money to give him or to share with him my picks , but I never did and I will never do , becuase this not what i look for .
and for all BA tipsters who believe its not fair that Im number one with suck joke leagues like this , I have no problem again to be removed , becuase again this not my dream .
and to be more honest , I did not post all my lets say sure or almost sure picks here , becuase I dont care for more points , if I care I would now pass 1000 point , I think other way , and I dont need maybe to tell u about , its my life and my future .
Im sure many of u understand this .
but Its not spanish league here , its Asian and african football , so bookies still dont know what they are doing with these odds !!!
In evrey league , evrey week there is about 4 to 5 games , and bookies get three or four wrong odds here and I believe they will still get this wrong , becuase again they still miss many things about them .
Its not secret , but its key to make real profit , and some big bookmakers promiss even to offer much bigger limit with many other options for this leagues .
So I think I will leave it to BA managers and whatever they decide , Im happy always with them , becuase I have nothing to lose .
and GL to all of u :)
2 CG: I understand... so now you were informed, if you check odds archive or betradar or any other tool, you will find easily that let's say every 15th bet was a cheat ( fake line or odds). So what happens now? Very easy to find the answer. Nothing...
The scenario is simple, some people are VIP for BA as they attract many visitors. They can even post wrong lines, it was revealed, it can be proved, but nothing will happen...
This is exactly what destroy the reputation of the site.
Honestly, I respect Jeries's knowledge of Arabic soccer, I do not care about his bets though. I don't care about cheating on main site either, but I am really sad for all hard working tipsters at BA who follow rules, make their best and help people without unfair methods.
Let's see if anything happens, I would bet that it will be swept under carpet as usual :)
Man sorry to tell u this :D but dont get angry plz :D
U only have 23 post in this fourm , and most of them when Jeries Involved in something :D
and u say that u dont care about my picks as well , while u did found some good bets on arabian leagues before as one of ur posts said if Im not wrong , and u can read ur posts and see , maybe Im wrong .
u just seem dont want me to bet anymore :D
man do u work for bookies ? becuase some of them offerd me shite money just to stop write in BA :D , they must be losing some good money I guess , and this is the first time I mention this !!
dont get mad on me mate plz :)
There is not a lot that either myself or any Mods can do about it apart from mention it to Terje
yes I understand and I am sure that most of you (moderators and/or admins) would not support anything like this and would vote for a punishment, but I am convinced that nothing will happen ;)
However, I am curious about the result of this case. Fingers crossed, hope justice will win it, and consequences will be made (it would be really sad and bad for BA image if not).
@Jeries.
Call Pinnacle.
Tell them, to give you a nice office with a nice view and a sexy secretary and a salary of 100.000E a year - and make the odds for them correctly and then let bwin and centrebet, bet365 and all others copy the odds and all will be happy
@Jeries.
Call Pinnacle.
Tell them, to give you a nice office with a nice view and a sexy secretary and a salary of 100.000E a year - and make the odds for them correctly and then let bwin and centrebet, bet365 and all others copy the odds and all will be happy
another one seems to have problem with me :)
@Jeries.
Call Pinnacle.
Tell them, to give you a nice office with a nice view and a sexy secretary and a salary of 100.000E a year - and make the odds for them correctly and then let bwin and centrebet, bet365 and all others copy the odds and all will be happy
another one seems to have problem with me :)
???
nah, hes been serious Jeries.
2 CG: I understand... so now you were informed, if you check odds archive or betradar or any other tool, you will find easily that let's say every 15th bet was a cheat ( fake line or odds). So what happens now? Very easy to find the answer. Nothing...
The scenario is simple, some people are VIP for BA as they attract many visitors. They can even post wrong lines, it was revealed, it can be proved, but nothing will happen...
This is exactly what destroy the reputation of the site.
Honestly, I respect Jeries's knowledge of Arabic soccer, I do not care about his bets though. I don't care about cheating on main site either, but I am really sad for all hard working tipsters at BA who follow rules, make their best and help people without unfair methods.
Let's see if anything happens, I would bet that it will be swept under carpet as usual :)
Man sorry to tell u this :D but dont get angry plz :D
U only have 23 post in this fourm , and most of them when Jeries Involved in something :D
and u say that u dont care about my picks as well , while u did found some good bets on arabian leagues before as one of ur posts said if Im not wrong , and u can read ur posts and see , maybe Im wrong .
u just seem dont want me to bet anymore :D
man do u work for bookies ? becuase some of them offerd me (censored) money just to stop write in BA :D , they must be losing some good money I guess , and this is the first time I mention this !!
dont get mad on me mate plz :)
Dear Jeries, I am not mad at all :) Moreover, as I said before I don't care if you writes here or not. I bet on most of the matches before you post it here.I do not work for books, I am not even BA regular reader, I have other things to do, and do not need any open forums for my work.
But yes, you are right I bet on similar leagues like you do as well. And as I do not wait for your bets, I know what odds and lines were opened by books... when odds changed etc. Andrew opened this discussion today and said what was known before... you use non-existing odds and lines.
It is simple situation: everytime someone asks me by MSN.
Jeries has just posted Ittihad @ 1,85. Do you play it as well?
I say: right now? Nonsense, such odds are not available for three hours or so....
It is all about. I really have no idea about your reason of posting such fakes (I just remember your case with fake bets in forum, so it may be the similar situation with current odds and lines faking )
Feel free to post your picks, I do not care about it, but just post right odds and lines... (still I miss the point why you post wrong lines or/and odds :idea: Is it your typical typing mistake or what? )
PS I really respect your knowledge and I do not want to offend you in any way... all my words concern of fake lines and odds.Nothing personal.
Regards
Noodles
GrimReaper01
11-04-07, 00:35
2 CG: I understand... so now you were informed, if you check odds archive or betradar or any other tool, you will find easily that let's say every 15th bet was a cheat ( fake line or odds). So what happens now? Very easy to find the answer. Nothing...
The scenario is simple, some people are VIP for BA as they attract many visitors. They can even post wrong lines, it was revealed, it can be proved, but nothing will happen...
This is exactly what destroy the reputation of the site.
Honestly, I respect Jeries's knowledge of Arabic soccer, I do not care about his bets though. I don't care about cheating on main site either, but I am really sad for all hard working tipsters at BA who follow rules, make their best and help people without unfair methods.
Let's see if anything happens, I would bet that it will be swept under carpet as usual :)
You are funny man... 23 posts... 15 or more about Jeries in other leagues section... Ok, you don't like the section, we got it, why you try to underestimate Jeries's work? Can't you understand that some people win money because of him? Have you ever thought of some hard working man who want to bet 200 Euros in a bet and make them 400? Will he follow any great punter in German hockey who wins 3 out 0f 10 bets or Jeries who wins all the time? We can not afford betting 5000 on a game. If BettingAdvice was created for those special people who have a comfortable life and can bet thousands in one game, then we should know and leave this forum.
About the other thing, odds are correct. Whatever odds Jeries publish exist and 10 minutes later they are gone. This is life, this is how bookies work...
I really don't see any case here. The problem is Al Muharaq -1 or -1.25... well ok, remove 10 units from Jeries instead of 5, the guy probably don't know how Asian hc work... it is obvious, else he would put all his bets in pinacle where winning is sure. Punish him with anothe 500 points deduction, this may help some guys to feel better and stop crying until Jeries get number 1 again...
I mean it is obvious, he is the best. Under any conditions he will be number 1 again and again and again...
I think there are more serious thinks to talk about than Al Muharaq -1 or -1.25... Here are guys who say that Jeries put fake odds!!! These guys should be banned, they are liers and they just try to make harm to bettingadvice. it is obvious
Correction, 23 posts under this nik ;)
I mean it is obvious, he is the best. Under any conditions he will be number 1 again and again and again...
Let Fidu post his famous bets for Polish FlipFlop.League and he will show you who is really the best.
2 Grim: I respect Jeries and his work here. Have I said anything else?
Before you call the people liars, just check odds archives and betradar, if you don't trust people saying that fake lines or odds were used from time to time :)
I am sorry for you ;)
Regars
Noodles
GrimReaper01
11-04-07, 00:42
It is simple situation: everytime someone asks me by MSN.
Jeries has just posted Ittihad @ 1,85. Do you play it as well?
I say: right now? Nonsense, such odds are not available for three hours or so....
[Football] Saudi Arabia – Crown Prince Cup
Al-Ittihad – Al-Ettifaq (Thu 05 Apr 17:10)
Other markets:
View:
Number of odd changes: 9
Bookmaker 1 +/- X +/- 2 +/- Po. Time
10Bet 1.56 3.52 5.03 89.0 % 17:08
Bwin 1.55 0.05 3.50 0.10 5.00 0.25 88.4 % 16:59
Wed 04 Apr 20:52 1.60 0.10 3.40 0.05 4.75 0.55
Wed 04 Apr 19:40 1.70 0.15 3.35 0.10 4.20 0.65
Wed 04 Apr 18:38 3.25 3.55
Wed 04 Apr 18:28 1.85
sportingbet 1.50 3.50 6.00 89.4 % 16:52
Average (%) 1.54 (57.9) 3.51 (25.4) 5.34 (16.7) 89.2 %
Man do you mean this AL Ittihad @ 1.85??? I was quick to catch these odds man...
Really now, what is your problem with BettingAdvice...
Just tell us why you are such a pathetic lier?
GrimReaper01
11-04-07, 00:44
I mean it is obvious, he is the best. Under any conditions he will be number 1 again and again and again...
Let Fidu post his famous bets for Polish FlipFlop.League and he will show you who is really the best.
Man I hope he does so... I don't care if it is flipflop... I want winning picks! Why he doesn't write these picks?
I hope he does sometime
Donno whats the matter with Ittihad, but what you show looks strange. 1,85 was gone on Wednesday and the pick with this odd was added on Thursday.
2 CG: I understand... so now you were informed, if you check odds archive or betradar or any other tool, you will find easily that let's say every 15th bet was a cheat ( fake line or odds). So what happens now? Very easy to find the answer. Nothing...
The scenario is simple, some people are VIP for BA as they attract many visitors. They can even post wrong lines, it was revealed, it can be proved, but nothing will happen...
This is exactly what destroy the reputation of the site.
Honestly, I respect Jeries's knowledge of Arabic soccer, I do not care about his bets though. I don't care about cheating on main site either, but I am really sad for all hard working tipsters at BA who follow rules, make their best and help people without unfair methods.
Let's see if anything happens, I would bet that it will be swept under carpet as usual :)
Man sorry to tell u this :D but dont get angry plz :D
U only have 23 post in this fourm , and most of them when Jeries Involved in something :D
and u say that u dont care about my picks as well , while u did found some good bets on arabian leagues before as one of ur posts said if Im not wrong , and u can read ur posts and see , maybe Im wrong .
u just seem dont want me to bet anymore :D
man do u work for bookies ? becuase some of them offerd me (censored) money just to stop write in BA :D , they must be losing some good money I guess , and this is the first time I mention this !!
dont get mad on me mate plz :)
Dear Jeries, I am not mad at all :) Moreover, as I said before I don't care if you writes here or not. I bet on most of the matches before you post it here.I do not work for books, I am not even BA regular reader, I have other things to do, and do not need any open forums for my work.
But yes, you are right I bet on similar leagues like you do as well. And as I do not wait for your bets, I know what odds and lines were opened by books... when odds changed etc. Andrew opened this discussion today and said what was known before... you use non-existing odds and lines.
It is simple situation: everytime someone asks me by MSN.
Jeries has just posted Ittihad @ 1,85. Do you play it as well?
I say: right now? Nonsense, such odds are not available for three hours or so....
It is all about. I really have no idea about your reason of posting such fakes (I just remember your case with fake bets in forum, so it may be the similar situation with current odds and lines faking )
Feel free to post your picks, I do not care about it, but just post right odds and lines... (still I miss the point why you post wrong lines or/and odds :idea: Is it your typical typing mistake or what? )
PS I really respect your knowledge and I do not want to offend you in any way... all my words concern of fake lines and odds.Nothing personal.
Regards
Noodles
sure I did , and with 1.85 !!! was not my mistake of u or others missed this odds .
that was massive mistake to offer on team won at the end 4-1 !!!!
u are trying to say was no even offer with 1.85 !!! My God man !! u cant be serious !!
My God , I cant believe u say this about me and I play with odds :(
This really sad from u man .
sorry , But I just got it now .
U and others must know , I never ever ever evere do this !!!!
My God man !! u strange
I mean it is obvious, he is the best. Under any conditions he will be number 1 again and again and again...
Let Fidu post his famous bets for Polish FlipFlop.League and he will show you who is really the best.
U guys still looking for the best !!!
well , let me tell u like this , IM NOT THE BEST .
and I dont care to be the best , Im just writing picks and win and make others win .
That all , I dont know when I will stop to write here .
so , I really have no words to say now .
LOL Grim... you are funny :)
Pinnacle -1.25 1.83 0.01 2.11 0.02 98.0 % 12:48
Mon 09 Apr 23:15 1.84 0.10 2.09 0.11
Mon 09 Apr 22:24 1.94 0.07 1.98 0.06
Mon 09 Apr 22:05 2.01 1.92
Pinnacle NEVER offered this line. Yes, they removed it after Jeries post, but -1,25 at some 1,83. Never -1 AH. And this is not the only case by far.
ok, if Andrew or me, or whoever else is a pathetic liar... what was today's story with Muharraq? :) Pinnacle has never had such a line -1... not only based on odds archives, but also based on my own experience as I was online all the time after launching odds and lines...
Regarding Ittihad, it was just an instance, I do not take notes about faking hehe. It was one of their match in last let's say 30 days, not sure what one.
I am leaving the discussion. It was good that someone said the true finally. Believe it or not. Everyone can check odds archives or even betradar if you have access.
GrimReaper01
11-04-07, 00:55
I said that I don't know what happened with Al Muharaq... Odds show that this line never existed... Well, why I must think that Jeries stole? I prefer to think that he did not understand the (-1 and -1.5) that pinnacle writes, instead of -1.25... So he saw -1 and he thought "banker". It is not a crime. Why we should think always the worse things about other people?
Really noodles, thoug you are a good and nice meal, you are very funny and very bad as a human...
Now you can say to the world that bettingadvice is **** because of Jeries... People don't read bettingadvice...
Tell us your site man...
I said that I don't know what happened with Al Muharaq... Odds show that this line never existed... Well, why I must think that Jeries stole? I prefer to think that he did not understand the (-1 and -1.5) that pinnacle writes, instead of -1.25... So he saw -1 and he thought "banker". It is not a crime. Why we should think always the worse things about other people?
Really noodles, thoug you are a good and nice meal, you are very funny and very bad as a human...
Now you can say to the world that bettingadvice is (censored) because of Jeries... People don't read bettingadvice...
Tell us your site man...
Well, Noodles wrote earlier it wasnt the first time, so thats probably the problem. Either he doesnt understand it or he does it on purpose, anyway both are pretty much a problem if we talk about the tipster nr. 1 there.
GrimReaper01
11-04-07, 01:05
Sorry but which one was the other time that Jeries put Asian Handicap?
You see some interesting things when you look at the Admin panel on BA but I think it plays tricks some times. Like this evening when neither you or Noodles seem to be online at the same time, and yet are posting after each other........i must have a word with Terje to find out whats wrong.
Odds show that this line never existed... Well, why I must think that Jeries stole? I prefer to think that he did not understand the (-1 and -1.5) that pinnacle writes, instead of -1.25...
because it happened before already several times... that's all. I wrote it earlier. It is normal to make a mistake, but it is strange to make such a mistake several times... I am a bad human as you said because I wrote it here hehe. Ok let's stop it :)
You see some interesting things when you look at the Admin panel on BA but I think it plays tricks some times. Like this evening when neither you or Noodles seem to be online at the same time, and yet are posting after each other........i must have a word with Terje to find out whats wrong.
Dont understand the point, what wrong?
GrimReaper01
11-04-07, 01:10
Tell me when he put Asian Handicap again and we will stop it...
As you saw Al Ittihad was 1.85 :D
I said that I don't know what happened with Al Muharaq... Odds show that this line never existed... Well, why I must think that Jeries stole? I prefer to think that he did not understand the (-1 and -1.5) that pinnacle writes, instead of -1.25... So he saw -1 and he thought "banker". It is not a crime. Why we should think always the worse things about other people?
Really noodles, thoug you are a good and nice meal, you are very funny and very bad as a human...
Now you can say to the world that bettingadvice is (censored) because of Jeries... People don't read bettingadvice...
Tell us your site man...
Well, Noodles wrote earlier it wasnt the first time, so thats probably the problem. Either he doesnt understand it or he does it on purpose, anyway both are pretty much a problem if we talk about the tipster nr. 1 there.
Well , Im not tipster like what u think .
Im trying to explain this all the time and nobodey believe this .
Im writing picks and thoughts about leagues I know very much more than I know myself , becuase I love it , that all .
so , Im not tipster , ok ? and again I dont care about number 1 or 100 .
when my piciks win , I get points and thats all .
and Im not shy to say I understand nothing about asians :)
why do i have to sahy ? I really do not understand how it works , becuase I dont have many experince like u guys with betting .
u see now , u are the tipsters and master guys in betting .
u even can ask grefsted , when i did post some wrong asian bets before , he was telling me Im wrong and this should be like this and not like this .
so guys u started something becuase u think I lie and I post fake picks !!! or even maybe wrong bets !!
well , to get to this point , its really sad for me .
Thanks
I dont know what the fuss is all about. It is obvious someone is lying here. Quite simple to check who - Terje will ask Pinnacle what was opening line for this game and they will be more than glad to help (as Pinny is always glad to help).
If Jeries lied - actions will be taken.
If Andrew lied - actions will be taken as well.
PS. No flipflap bets from me. I must feed my family you know ;)
I said that I don't know what happened with Al Muharaq... Odds show that this line never existed... Well, why I must think that Jeries stole? I prefer to think that he did not understand the (-1 and -1.5) that pinnacle writes, instead of -1.25... So he saw -1 and he thought "banker". It is not a crime. Why we should think always the worse things about other people?
Really noodles, thoug you are a good and nice meal, you are very funny and very bad as a human...
Now you can say to the world that bettingadvice is (censored) because of Jeries... People don't read bettingadvice...
Tell us your site man...
Well, Noodles wrote earlier it wasnt the first time, so thats probably the problem. Either he doesnt understand it or he does it on purpose, anyway both are pretty much a problem if we talk about the tipster nr. 1 there.
Well , Im not tipster like what u think .
Im trying to explain this all the time and nobodey believe this .
Im writing picks and thoughts about leagues I know very much more than I know myself , becuase I love it , that all .
so , Im not tipster , ok ? and again I dont care about number 1 or 100 .
when my piciks win , I get points and thats all .
and Im not shy to say I understand nothing about asians :)
why do i have to sahy ? I really do not understand how it works , becuase I dont have many experince like u guys with betting .
u see now , u are the tipsters and master guys in betting .
u even can ask grefsted , when i did post some wrong asian bets before , he was telling me Im wrong and this should be like this and not like this .
so guys u started something becuase u think I lie and I post fake picks !!! or even maybe wrong bets !!
well , to get to this point , its really sad for me .
Thanks
Well, Jeries... as said many times (go back and read again), noone said you have bad picks, you dont understand these leagues etc. Obviously, cause you like there and around these countries, you now absolutely the most from all people on BA (most probably). The main problem and protection for this is Arabic language, which cant be even for for Europeans etc, not to mention to understand it :D
Maybe would be better if you talk about the games on discussion there, give advices, opinions and do not care about mainsite anymore. Or maybe should use handicaps if you are not sure how it works.
I dont know what the fuss is all about. It is obvious someone is lying here. Quite simple to check who - Terje will ask Pinnacle what was opening line for this game and they will be more than glad to help (as Pinny is always glad to help).
If Jeries lied - actions will be taken.
If Andrew lied - actions will be taken as well.
PS. No flipflap bets from me. I must feed my family you know ;)
No need to contact Pinnacle - check odds archieve on some sites. Actually as I follow partly these things, I checked lines.
And other thing - Pinnacle doesnt have a bookie for these leagues, they copy odds from Bwin and make AH from it according to their odds. And the never convert 1,35 to -1 AH.
I said that I don't know what happened with Al Muharaq... Odds show that this line never existed... Well, why I must think that Jeries stole? I prefer to think that he did not understand the (-1 and -1.5) that pinnacle writes, instead of -1.25... So he saw -1 and he thought "banker". It is not a crime. Why we should think always the worse things about other people?
Really noodles, thoug you are a good and nice meal, you are very funny and very bad as a human...
Now you can say to the world that bettingadvice is (censored) because of Jeries... People don't read bettingadvice...
Tell us your site man...
Well, Noodles wrote earlier it wasnt the first time, so thats probably the problem. Either he doesnt understand it or he does it on purpose, anyway both are pretty much a problem if we talk about the tipster nr. 1 there.
Well , Im not tipster like what u think .
Im trying to explain this all the time and nobodey believe this .
Im writing picks and thoughts about leagues I know very much more than I know myself , becuase I love it , that all .
so , Im not tipster , ok ? and again I dont care about number 1 or 100 .
when my piciks win , I get points and thats all .
and Im not shy to say I understand nothing about asians :)
why do i have to sahy ? I really do not understand how it works , becuase I dont have many experince like u guys with betting .
u see now , u are the tipsters and master guys in betting .
u even can ask grefsted , when i did post some wrong asian bets before , he was telling me Im wrong and this should be like this and not like this .
so guys u started something becuase u think I lie and I post fake picks !!! or even maybe wrong bets !!
well , to get to this point , its really sad for me .
Thanks
Well, Jeries... as said many times (go back and read again), noone said you have bad picks, you dont understand these leagues etc. Obviously, cause you like there and around these countries, you now absolutely the most from all people on BA (most probably). The main problem and protection for this is Arabic language, which cant be even for for Europeans etc, not to mention to understand it :D
Maybe would be better if you talk about the games on discussion there, give advices, opinions and do not care about mainsite anymore. Or maybe should use handicaps if you are not sure how it works.
well , I see again the same demand from u and ur friend .
U want me to stop writing in the main page becuase both of u as well bet on these leagues .
well , as long as grefstad wants me to write in the main page , I will write .
if he asked me to stop , I will stop and leave even the fourm .
I have no problem with this , Im always stright and honest more than u think .
and clever as well :)
But u guys can send me email and explain to me about any mistake , I have no problem with this , I always open minded and I understand , but u dont need to follow ways like this just to stop me writing in the main page .
Jeries, I am one of your followers and you are one of the best tipsters on the internet for me, please keep writing picks on main site !!! I did not like this discussion because I would not ever imagined that you could post wrong odds or lines. I asked my friend who has access to BR to prove that you was right with -1 Muharraq so that I could stop this discussion but he said that there was not such a line ever :( So you had to make a mistake- Why you did not write here that it was your typing mistake ? Your bet on main site is voided now instead of half lost. Does it mean that BA administators are "corrupted" or what ? :( :( I would love to hear an explanation of BA's bosses :idea:
The void pick on the main site means that the pick has been settled due to the odds/line posted on the main page. This doesnt mean that it is correct and that BA is corrupt.
Simply put, Terje will have gone through ALL closed picks on a certain day, and just settled them according to the result that he has found or been told. He doesnt go searching for the odds/line on every bet to check them, as Im sure you can appreciate that this would take ages. He/BA, relies on moderators/users spotting mistakes and when these are mentioned, they are then looked into. This specific bet has been mentioned in the Mods forum and when the relevent information has been looked into, will be changed accordingly if necessary.
Captain Murat
15-04-07, 11:38
Is it possible that I ask a special game to Dear (gorgeous) jeries?
If not, pliz delete it;
Apr 15 20:20
Al Nasr v Al-Hilal
7.00 3.20 1.50
ods:(bet365)
Any info for this game pliz ?
hey guys
i read from almost all of you an i think that you make too much trouble for nothing
instead of help jeries understand the asians you want to cut his head off just for someone else to write on the main page?
even if you are jelous of jeries and the + he has on pick this is not a way to deal with it !
he just tries to help some people with the leagues he understand best
i dont think thats something bad
so just let it go and leave the man to do what he does best
thx
Goldfish, friend, I am afraid you did not understand the discussion correctly. Nobody wanted to write on main page instead of him.
Thank you CG for your reply. We all are waiting for the result. More than week is gone and still no conclusion. What makes me confused is the fact that Jeries has been writing how honest he is but did not say anything about the Muharraq. I expected him to deny it, or admit his fault, but he has been avoiding replying and since I saw the result of search in BR archive, I am convinced now as well that it was cheat. I am Jeries's supporter though and I want him to continue his job on main site, but things should be said in a right way without hushing it up. Also this should not happen again, and I do hope this was the first time, and not 10th time as someone said.
GrimReaper01
18-04-07, 10:58
Goldfish, friend, I am afraid you did not understand the discussion correctly. Nobody wanted to write on main page instead of him.
Thank you CG for your reply. We all are waiting for the result. More than week is gone and still no conclusion. What makes me confused is the fact that Jeries has been writing how honest he is but did not say anything about the Muharraq. I expected him to deny it, or admit his fault, but he has been avoiding replying and since I saw the result of search in BR archive, I am convinced now as well that it was cheat. I am Jeries's supporter though and I want him to continue his job on main site, but things should be said in a right way without hushing it up. Also this should not happen again, and I do hope this was the first time, and not 10th time as someone said.
I think he admited his error... He said in his post that he made mistake as he could not understand his pick and that he would be gratefull if somebody had told this to him and help him correct it...
Of course nobody spoke about that mistake, just they waited in the corner, for Muharaq to play bad, and then attack Jeries...
Goldfish, friend, I am afraid you did not understand the discussion correctly. Nobody wanted to write on main page instead of him.
Thank you CG for your reply. We all are waiting for the result. More than week is gone and still no conclusion. What makes me confused is the fact that Jeries has been writing how honest he is but did not say anything about the Muharraq. I expected him to deny it, or admit his fault, but he has been avoiding replying and since I saw the result of search in BR archive, I am convinced now as well that it was cheat. I am Jeries's supporter though and I want him to continue his job on main site, but things should be said in a right way without hushing it up. Also this should not happen again, and I do hope this was the first time, and not 10th time as someone said.
I think he admited his error... He said in his post that he made mistake as he could not understand his pick and that he would be gratefull if somebody had told this to him and help him correct it...
Of course nobody spoke about that mistake, just they waited in the corner, for Muharaq to play bad, and then attack Jeries...
I have not found it anywhere, I mean admiting that Muharaq was typing mistake. Also if Jeries said it, the conclusion would have been made already and the pick on main site would have been updated from void to half lost. But as CG said: "it is being investigated". So I think Jeries has not admited any mistake yet and bosses are waiting for Pinnacle's reply to make the conclusion. So you seems to be wrong GrimReaper ;)
GrimReaper01
18-04-07, 12:06
I know that he admited his mistake man...
Now why the pick is voided in the mainsite? Personally I don't care... But why the other (-1) hc picks by sportingbet are also voided in the mainsite? Maybe it is a system problem and not Jeries problem... I don't think that Jeries settles his picks on the main site...
Goldfish, friend, I am afraid you did not understand the discussion correctly. Nobody wanted to write on main page instead of him.
Thank you CG for your reply. We all are waiting for the result. More than week is gone and still no conclusion. What makes me confused is the fact that Jeries has been writing how honest he is but did not say anything about the Muharraq. I expected him to deny it, or admit his fault, but he has been avoiding replying and since I saw the result of search in BR archive, I am convinced now as well that it was cheat. I am Jeries's supporter though and I want him to continue his job on main site, but things should be said in a right way without hushing it up. Also this should not happen again, and I do hope this was the first time, and not 10th time as someone said.
well , u amd ur friends sound to be happy if I tell u sorry darling I made mistake :)
well , I know I did mistake becuase I did not understand about this asians , but not anymore , becuase now I just got all the explain about them and started to bet more with asians .
and I wrote to BA manager and I explain to him as well .
so the end of this story .
If Jeries lied - actions will be taken.
If Andrew lied - actions will be taken as well.
I know that he admited his mistake man...
well , I know I did mistake becuase I did not understand about this asians
the end of this story .
If Jeries lied - actions will be taken.
If Andrew lied - actions will be taken as well.
I know that he admited his mistake man...
well , I know I did mistake becuase I did not understand about this asians
the end of this story .
man with picks u should be doing better job than betting :)
looks nice from u :)
U guys still sure that Im cheat , becuase I did mistake .
but I dont believe u know what cheat is !!!
believe me u dont know how somebodey can Cheat u :idea:
I dont want to explain what cheat is incase u lose it even more .
I did mistake and I said 1000000000000 time , Im sooooo sorry guys .
and if ur way is to remove points from my account , u can remove 100
points even :) not half stake .
would u think I will spend my life here to make all of u happy ?
I just enjoy doing this for fun , its not my problem if this fun start to bring
money !!!
but u seem taking betting like main thing in ur life I guess , that why u
really looks very sad and cant even sleep at night becuase of my
mistake !!
With regards to asking Pinnacle, they wont disclose previous lines to Terje.
Hello, Jeries, why You calculated Qatar over as lost bet today ? i think it's won 4-0 and my bookmaker paid as won :) And second question - Jeries picking asian olympic qualifications as UNDER 21 matches, and livescore futbol24 saying it's UNDER 23 looks strange for me. I hope it's same thing, and where is mistake ?
Hello, Jeries, why You calculated Qatar over as lost bet today ? i think it's won 4-0 and my bookmaker paid as won :) And second question - Jeries picking asian olympic qualifications as UNDER 21 matches, and livescore futbol24 saying it's UNDER 23 looks strange for me. I hope it's same thing, and where is mistake ?
betandwin wrote Under 21 , so I coppy from them
So JERIES mate what about the ALGERIAN cup game and this in UAE today .And mate dont care about all this s..t just do what u do best GIVING PICKS & ADVICES ABOUT THE LEAGUES U KNOW BEST and do it for fun peace
So JERIES mate what about the ALGERIAN cup game and this in UAE today .And mate dont care about all this s..t just do what u do best GIVING PICKS & ADVICES ABOUT THE LEAGUES U KNOW BEST and do it for fun peace
Algerian cup no bet man .
IN UAE league , I write some nice pick hopefully soon with some african games maybe .
but u know we dont want games to be removed , many others bets as well , so not fair
JERIES mate from where i can get info about the african arabic games stats teams etc.And what about today games in UAE KUWAIT cup game JORDAN games.peace
GrimReaper01
20-04-07, 11:43
JERIES mate from where i can get info about the african arabic games stats teams etc.And what about today games in UAE KUWAIT cup game JORDAN games.peace
Ig you want league tables or results you see in www.soccerway.com or www.goalzz.com
To me, this has no point, as in these Arabic games the league position of a team or the form don't play any important role... :D
superior75
20-04-07, 11:47
I think http://futbol24.com/ is also very good, for live score, statistics, etc. I think there is almost every league ;)
CHEERS MATES WISH U A GOOD WEEKEND AND A LOT OF MONEY ;)
Hello, Jeries, please check a mistake with 99.9 odds on main page in predictions on match UAE league. Thanks.
Hello, Jeries, please check a mistake with 99.9 odds on main page in predictions on match UAE league. Thanks.
Yes I know , the price 2.00
but I dont know why this start to come to me 99.99 :idea:
maybe one day I win one game with this price :D
i searched for livescores for the game Al-Faisaly - Al-Baq`a jordan league but it seems that i can not find it anywhere
i dont even now what time they play or day
jeries wrote that it is today but i cant find it
if someone can help i will appreciate it
cheers !
i searched for livescores for the game Al-Faisaly - Al-Baq`a jordan league but it seems that i can not find it anywhere
i dont even now what time they play or day
jeries wrote that it is today but i cant find it
if someone can help i will appreciate it
cheers !
game Postponed
C.Africain X C. A. Bizertin 1-1 Full Time :D
what a offer that was !!
i searched for livescores for the game Al-Faisaly - Al-Baq`a jordan league but it seems that i can not find it anywhere
i dont even now what time they play or day
jeries wrote that it is today but i cant find it
if someone can help i will appreciate it
cheers !
Man , u can use www.goalzz.com for Arabic/asian/african games .
I dont know any other site , sorry .
i searched for livescores for the game Al-Faisaly - Al-Baq`a jordan league but it seems that i can not find it anywhere
i dont even now what time they play or day
jeries wrote that it is today but i cant find it
if someone can help i will appreciate it
cheers !
Man , u can use www.goalzz.com for Arabic/asian/african games .
I dont know any other site , sorry .
hello, do you know result for HUSA Hassania - Dolphin ? please
i searched for livescores for the game Al-Faisaly - Al-Baq`a jordan league but it seems that i can not find it anywhere
i dont even now what time they play or day
jeries wrote that it is today but i cant find it
if someone can help i will appreciate it
cheers !
Man , u can use www.goalzz.com for Arabic/asian/african games .
I dont know any other site , sorry .
hello, do you know result for HUSA Hassania - Dolphin ? please
FT 1-0 ;)
Hello Jeries mate, I dont saw any predictions for this round in AFC Champions league, here too
What's your opinion about Kawasaki -Chunnam?
Thanks in advance
Crazy Ettifaq! 3 goals in 90., 91. and 92. minute!!! :o
From 1-2 to 4-2. :o :o
Crazy Ettifaq! 3 goals in 90., 91. and 92. minute!!! :o
From 1-2 to 4-2. :o :o
That whats called bad luck and lucky bookies :)
No words to say or imagen how this end !!! I just cant believe it after I saw it
JERIES mate from where i can get info about the african arabic games stats teams etc.And what about today games in UAE KUWAIT cup game JORDAN games.peace
Ig you want league tables or results you see in www.soccerway.com or www.goalzz.com
To me, this has no point, as in these Arabic games the league position of a team or the form don't play any important role... :D
GrimReaper01 no limits on UAE league games in pinnacle now ;)
GrimReaper01
29-04-07, 13:31
JERIES mate from where i can get info about the african arabic games stats teams etc.And what about today games in UAE KUWAIT cup game JORDAN games.peace
Ig you want league tables or results you see in www.soccerway.com or www.goalzz.com
To me, this has no point, as in these Arabic games the league position of a team or the form don't play any important role... :D
GrimReaper01 no limits on UAE league games in pinnacle now ;)
So what man? in today's games? Why don't we lose our money in a casino?
JERIES mate from where i can get info about the african arabic games stats teams etc.And what about today games in UAE KUWAIT cup game JORDAN games.peace
Ig you want league tables or results you see in www.soccerway.com or www.goalzz.com
To me, this has no point, as in these Arabic games the league position of a team or the form don't play any important role... :D
GrimReaper01 no limits on UAE league games in pinnacle now ;)
So what man? in today's games? Why don't we lose our money in a casino?
come on man , risk 5000 on the right pick and u will have party tonight and remember me ;)
£125 limit for me
No limit for me
that was on 20th of april i send this one i think JERRIES
£125 limit for me
I hope anyway to keep doing this with many other leagues :)
but I guess they did this with people who win many picks and high account credit manybe .
they think we will lose :)
these ****ers stupied :)
that was on 20th of april i send this one i think JERRIES
what this man ?
No understand any word from what u said !!!
but I guess they did this with people who win many picks and high account credit manybe .
they think we will lose :)
these (censored) stupied :)
ah, must be the reason as i only stick 20p on each bet and always lose, why did i never think of this. :rolleyes:
I dont if u serious :) u really always lose !!!! how ?
you completely missed my point.......nevermind
£125 limit for me
No limit for me
Log in and you'll see the limit then. :) Of course they've got clearly written limit for all leagues. 183 euros for UAE league, while 22 k for NBA playoffs for example.
soccer man
29-04-07, 17:45
hehe pinnacle think CG will end his streak lost and start to winning thats why they don't want to increase CG limits :)
lol, you've missed the point as well.
£125 limit for me
I hope anyway to keep doing this with many other leagues :)
but I guess they did this with people who win many picks and high account credit manybe .
they think we will lose :)
these (censored) stupied :)
Oh they are not stupid Jeries, and they are not looking for you to lose. They just have you on their payroll, very cheaply.
what u mean very cheaply :idea:
yengdaichin
30-04-07, 15:07
Hi jeries
any pick for tonight saudi or egypt league? thx a lot
keeping up your good work, you've been doing very well
what u mean very cheaply :idea:
It means it's costing them(Pinnacle) very little to get your insights. Your insights means more to them than to you, they stand to make more from them than what they gonna lose from you. You are leaving lots of money on the table.
laranjinha
01-05-07, 13:32
It means it's costing them(Pinnacle) very little to get your insights. Your insights means more to them than to you, they stand to make more from them than what they gonna lose from you. You are leaving lots of money on the table.
Maledetto,
You are raising here a very interesting point that probably deserve a different thread (CG???)
It is indeed annoying that Pinnacle (and others) offer early odds with very low limits ($50 for Brazilian soccer for example). They expect pros to take the early odds and adapt them accordingly.
But what do you propose, Maledetto? There will always be someone that will take the early odds with $50. How can we combat this strategy?
Maledetto,
You are raising here a very interesting point that probably deserve a different thread (CG???)
It is indeed annoying that Pinnacle (and others) offer early odds with very low limits ($50 for Brazilian soccer for example). They expect pros to take the early odds and adapt them accordingly.
But what do you propose, Maledetto? There will always be someone that will take the early odds with $50. How can we combat this strategy?
Work your way through the ranks of Asian bookmakers, thats the only way you can't be collared on the early lines when it comes to soccer. The majority of the public Euro and Caribbean books work at a sub level money wise and can't expose themselves, forcing them to circle the games early on; there's nothing the general public can do about that, it's just smart bookmaking.
Refering to Jeries unique situation, seeing as the Arab betting market is not as mature, it limits a book's ability to monetize his info. So I'm sure a book like Pinnacle would appreciate with a premium if he work directly with them instead of him working the uncollar lines. Uncollar lines are as useful as a market size.
GrimReaper01
03-05-07, 20:11
Jeries or GrimReaper or whoever, if you're around today, plz tell me the scores of Al Ahli Tripoli and of Al-Oruba from today :) Thanks :)
Al Oruba won 1-0
Al Ahli Tripoli, I left the game when it was 1-1 at 89 minute... When I returned from toilet Al Ahli were winning 3-1 :D
What a final ending in Bahraini League! Al-Hala plays 7-4 against Sitra! Abdullatif scores 5 goals! Damn, I would have seen it! :( :oops: :D
@Jeries: Nice Pick. :)
Pity for Manama, they were leading 1-0 in first half and lost 1-2. :(
Does somebody know already the result of WA Boufarik - A Bou Saâda?
2nd League Algeria
Does somebody know already the result of WA Boufarik - A Bou Saâda?
2nd League Algeria
nobody knows the result?
the bet in pinnacle is still pending :oops:
http://www.dzfoot.com/
today whole round Algeria2 and first results normally on this page ;)
http://www.dzfoot.com/lmanager/leaguemanagerD2.php
Boufarik won 1-0
Thanks, Jeries!
Al Shaab IBB
11-05-07, 18:54
hey jeries my friend , i noticed you bet on yemen league as you can see by the results of today my homelands league is totally unpredictabel.
I was betting on the this league all off the last season and made only few euros and you dont know this league good.
so i will better say dont bet on this league if u dont want loose your money.
:)
hey jeries my friend , i noticed you bet on yemen league as you can see by the results of today my homelands league is totally unpredictabel.
I was betting on the this league all off the last season and made only few euros and you dont know this league good.
so i will better say dont bet on this league if u dont want loose your money.
:)
well , I wont defend my picks man , I know this league is hard and Im not trying to say Im good .
but sometimes things go very strange and hard , sometimes bad luck , sometimes I feel my pick is wrong due to many conditions , sometimes the team play good and miss 10 chances to score like Al Saker , and at the end they cant win the pick for me .
all what I can say here , Im just learning and we have many years infront of us to win more .
and Im sorry for my picks !!! the end of the season and I guess we need holiday and relax more , but hard to get holidays , we need to follow the teams news and how they will get ready for next season :)
very hard work this Im afraid !!
superior75
13-05-07, 08:28
Hello, does anybody know the result of the game between Etoile du Congo (Congo) and Astres Douala (Cameroon)? The game had to be played yesterday, but it looks like the Africans do not want to reveal the final score. :)
superior75
13-05-07, 08:52
Nobody? No wonder as the match is played today (as I've just found):
http://www.cafonline.com/news.php?id=724
We are about to close a season , so where is the best results ?
and what about your home team? :) just kidding
Hello, does anybody know the result of the game between Etoile du Congo (Congo) and Astres Douala (Cameroon)? The game had to be played yesterday, but it looks like the Africans do not want to reveal the final score. :)
Home team won 2-1
superior75
14-05-07, 21:11
Hello, does anybody know the result of the game between Etoile du Congo (Congo) and Astres Douala (Cameroon)? The game had to be played yesterday, but it looks like the Africans do not want to reveal the final score. :)
Home team won 2-1
Thanks, bwin has already payed me the money, so I knew they won. Anyway, thank you for your information and mainly: thank you for the great picks. I don't know many tipsters making such good work.
Parklife-de
19-06-07, 11:22
So will there be no picks from you Jeries for the next weeks...? Or when do the arabian leagues start again...?
Thanks!
Jeries has a lot of sh*t going on at the moment and I doubt he will be posting picks again.
Parklife-de
19-06-07, 12:55
I'm sorry to hear that! :-( Hope all will be well in the future!
Jeries has a lot of sh*t going on at the moment and I doubt he will be posting picks again.
Wow, what exactly is going on? If it's not a secret of course...
Parklife-de
26-06-07, 15:48
He'll seriously be missed around here!
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