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Betandwin's offers for Turkey relegation are:
Istanbulspor 1.70
Bursaspor 2.20
Rizespor 3.00
Sebatspor 4.00
Ok, **** odds as usual at betandwin ;) but with only one round to go it could be interesting ...
My question -especially to all Turkish friends- is, which of these teams will NOT get points for free in the last round :)
I also tried to add a poll about it... I hope it works - its my first time :)
Marie
bedixamanwa
10-05-04, 15:35
well.
i think bursa, sebat and rize will win easily.this is because both their opponents have no motivation, they play home and also these teams have stronger relations with the FA rather than istanbulspor.
istanbulspor's ex-boss had terrible relations with not only the FA but much more importantly with the Turkish government as a badly reputated businessman who deceived even the world's biggest firms.After the clashes with goverment he left istanbulspor.So ***304;stanbulspor remained very weak in administration and finance.istanbulspor also lacks supporters which decreases its influence on the FA combined with the things i told above.
However istanbulspor squad is better than the other three and they have a strong will to succeed in staying in the super leauge.Players and coachs although being paid no money for months play with a strong team spirit.
Under this circumtances as i said i expect the other three win easily.This means Rize and Sebat will not relegate if some miracles don't happen. The race is between istanbulspor and bursa.bursa will easily win too.if istanbul manages to win against Konyaspor away which would probably be motivated by the rich and strong board of Bursa, they can manage not to relegate.it is possible but it wolud be very difficult. so although i would like to see istanbulspor to stay in the super league as i respect their honourful struggle, i believe that they are more likely to relegate when compared to Bursa.
i can put the ratios of relegation aproximately like that
istanbulspor : 55 %
bursa : 40 %
rize: 3 %
sebat 2 %
my wish is istanbul
ohhh i really hate that team but emotions on other side IMHO Bursa have big problem in last round against Samsun>
As you know Samsu Rize and Sebat are Black Sea Clubs, and Samsun and Rize saved Sebat.
Now Samsun have chance to send Bursa in second division, yes i know its not so easy because they play on home ground but who knows....
FIDE Master
10-05-04, 23:55
If Samsun help other Black Sea clubs why won they against Rize last round?
my wish is istanbul Why??? ISTANBULSPOR is one of the BEST 5 TEAMS in TURKEY... Just if we had a ISTANBUL LEAGUE between
BESIKTAS, FENERBAHCE, GALATASARAY and ISTANBULSPOR, than would ISTANBULSPOR be the CHAMP with same points like FENERBAHCE.. But a better h2h..
This teams being in that zone now is a big shame of turkey's rules vs politicians in sports...
Besiktas Istanbulspor 1:2
Istanbulspor Fenerbahce 0:1
Galatasaray Istanbulspor 2:2
Istanbulspor Galatasaray 3:1
Istanbulspor Besiktas 1:1
Fenerbahce Istanbulspor 0:3
As you see ISTANBULSPOR won 11 POINTS from this TV COVERAGE matches... (i write this cause MATCH on TV can not be blocked by a ref so easily...)
This ISTANBULSPOR would play for First 4 if they were not stopped by federation and referees...
Hope that BESIKTAS makes the surprise, and RIZE relegates... (cause a **** TEAM like RIZE does not deserve to be in TURKEY... They gave the match to SEBATSPOR... And now do they face the relagation problem...) They should go to DIV 2 CATEGORY A, and next season to 2nd DIV CATEGORY B...
Such teams are the BLACK SIDE of TURKEY...
*** To all turkish guys from RIZE; hope that you see your team as the shame of your region !!! ***
As you know Samsu Rize and Sebat are Black Sea Clubs, and Samsun and Rize saved Sebat.
Big mistake GENCLERBIRLIGI FAN :wink:
In turkey does not REGION TALK !!!
Don't forget !!!
2nd DIV team KARSIYAKA, (from IZMIR) did WIN over IZMIRSPOR and GOZTEPE (both IZMIR TEAMS) and this teams face now the big relegation problem. Maybe will both relagate...
But the same KARSIYAKA did sell the match to YOZGATSPOR and rescued them from the area...
MONEY TALKS !!! REGION is the 2nd part...
GL !!!
maybe they won 11 points but simple i dont like that club.
My big wish was Elazig to relagate and it came true now we will see :wink: :wink:
Simple personal feelings
About Samsun i really dont know why they won against Rize.
But IMHO that Bursa also is not good club i read somewhere that after Rize had 2:0 on HT they told them that Rize players wont left stadion live if BUrsa dont win... really poor
But IMHO that Bursa also is not good club i read somewhere that after Rize had 2:0 on HT they told them that Rize players wont left stadion live if BUrsa dont win... really poor
yes but that's something like; if you are behaved like a dog, than behave like a dog...
BLACK SEA teams and EASTERN TEAMS help each too much.. That's out of soccer.. But noone can stop this as many politicians are in this buisiness..
I'm much more in 2nd division.. So i know that part more than many guys around here....
Just a little example..
I told the things over KARSIYAKA... And now listen to this part;
BUYUKSEHIR ANKARASPOR, chairman is also the chief of CITY ANKARA "melih gokcek" (from the side of GOVERNMENT) got a special permission to cover their stadium with NEW GRASS... But this grass was something different.. About 20 cm's long. And hard... SYNTHETIC GRASS ...
And this caused to all AWAY TEAMS playing in ANKARA big trouble. None were used to play on such grass and after 20 minutes did the players face condition problems...
And surely wanted the federation to force ankara change their pitch again... But as this would take much time (funny reason) were all rejected...
I just wonder, "what will the federation decision be now, as this ANKARA will play next season with TOP TEAMS in DIV1 !!! Top Teams = MONEY
I'm sure that the federation will announce that ANKARA has to use standart grass again...
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and secondly;
HACILAR ERCIYES, a KAYSERI TEAM and also the team that TURKISH PRESIDENT's 1st man (Abdullah Gül) , is a fan of...
This team plays PERFECT SOCCER.. Completely agree on this.. BUT i wonder whether people from inside can explain me this teams some matches...
ERSIYES at home vs ANKARA
ERCIYES away vs SIVAS !!!
ERCIYES away vs KOCAELI...
None can answer but i'll..
Just for this matches will ERCIYES lose some points next yearin super league..
Let's wait and see..
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For ELAZIGSPOR do i agree.. They had to go. ADANASPOR the same...
But the 3rd team should be RIZESPOR..
I'm quite sure that ISTANBULSPOR will face problems vs KONYASPOR next week, as ZAFER BIRYOL and TAYFUN are classic quick strikers that a team like ISTANBULSPOR that is in a MUST WIN situation can't defend...
Early play;
This match will be OVER 2.5 just in the 30th minute :wink: :wink:
GL !!!
I have 3 brief questions to our Turkish friends:
1) When will the referees be designated to the matches?
2) Which ref is the shrewdest one? I mean the 'great fraud', the cheat... (Tell us your opinion before the designation, pls.)
and after the designation:
3) Which match will this ref be designated? I'll bet: that of Rize or Istambul. (Or perhaps Sebat. Not Bursa, or any other match.)
Take this game as a sociology-test for Turkish football...
bedixamanwa
12-05-04, 11:28
the FA surprisingly punished Bursa and decided the next match to be played in a neutral ground not Bursa'a own stadium.This may a little affect the possibility of Bursa to relegate but what we know is that Bursa fans would be the absolute majority also in a neutral ground...
This weekend matches may not be played...
RIZE vs BESIKTAS
KONYA vs ISTANBULSPOR
SEBAT vs ANKARAGUCU
BURSA vs SAMSUNSPOR
As BURSA went to the deciding committee for a cancellation of the ban, and as the decision can take some time..
So as the matches have to be all at the same time is there such a problem..
I don advice to bet now on these 4 matches
GL !!!
PS;
The committee will refuse bursa's disapproval... And BURSASPOR match will be played in KOCAELI.. (that's my opinion) 8)
istanbul is not going down but rize or sebat is
coach aykut kocaman will probably be in charge of konya next season.
istanbul is not going down but rize or sebat is
coach aykut kocaman will probably be in charge of konya next season.
That's not enough to say ISTANBULSPOR win win is KONYA...
Istanbul board are very angry vs KONYASPOR board as KONYA took 6 players of ISTANBULSPOR in their transfer list. And 3 of them are players that's contract will end at the end of this season...
ALEX YORDANOV's cousin is a member of BA FORUM (i won't give his nick, if he wants than will he talk...)
And he knows that YORDANOV wants to play for ISTANBULSPOR not KONYASPOR but if ISTANBULSPOR relegates than will he join KONYA !!!
KONYA and ISTANBULSPOR are not in good relation these days. So KONYA to lose to ISTANBUL just for AYKUT is not an enough reason...
Istanbulspor has turkey's 5th best squad !!! This is a better reason... But i would wait for the referees if i were you...
GL !!!
tell me more!
like good football is a measure for taking points in turka supra liga ;)
but what you said about team politics makes things much more interesting...
cya
But you forget to say that IStanbul had a chance to secure first league in game Istanbul-Gaziantep, Gaziantep played with B squad, and they couldnt beat them.
So guilty is their not any other club, and if they relegate, i wont cry :lol: :lol: :lol:
Samsun have a chance to solve all problems :) and @8.00 on samsun is good
@4.00 on Konya also
with small stakes
I have a feeling that one of these clubs will lose (Istanbul,Rize,Sebat and Bursa)
Yes, odds 8,0 is good... if there is payout for Samsun at all... Don't be greedy, don't waste your money...
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