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My thought:
Dutch Cup Combo
Tomorrow, 20:45
Soccer - Netherlands
Pick: Ajax, PSV, AZ
Stake: 10/10 Odds: 1.42
Bookmaker: Interwetten
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All 3 teams play against 2d league teams and in Holland the difference is BIG. Ajax gets odds of 1.08 sometimes in first league and now against mediocre haarlem they offer 1.15... PSV-go ahead should be a walkover aswell, and az... at least 2/3 goals. 1.42 might sound not that much but i wouldn't be worried to bet a bank on it..
Can't see a suprise happening here... If there are early goals in all the games it can't go wrong...
Peter the Farmer
22-01-07, 22:45
PSV, AZ and Ajax all games with more then 2,5 goals
total odd in trio about 2,20 nice profit and easy money :idea:
Topscore Berry Powell from Graafschap is banned against Willem 2 ,
and 2 other games.....
Topscore Berry Powell from Graafschap is banned against Willem 2 ,
and 2 other games.....
Is this that crucial? Cause I was thinking of taking Graafshap which form is brilliant, and Willem is strugling now...
and az... at least 2/3 goals
according to az website both Koevermans and Arveladze are doubtful ... 1.12 ? thanks but no thanks !
Ajax -2 @1.8 at Sportingbet 10/10
Why are the odds for Ajax at home against Haarlem 1.80 for -2. Imo Ajax will win this with 4 or 5-0, Haarlem will try to keep the 0 for a long time but with attacking power of Ajax they don't have a chance. Do u really think they will score against Stam and Grygera?
Haarlem will come with 3000 fans, but it won't help them imo. Most of the players never played in such a stadion like the ArenA. In the winterbreak Haarlem lost 4-2 against the 2nd team of Ajax, now they face the first and they don't have a chance imo.
Topscore Berry Powell from Graafschap is banned against Willem 2 ,
and 2 other games.....
Is this that crucial? Cause I was thinking of taking Graafshap which form is brilliant, and Willem is strugling now...
powel have scored 19 goals already in the jupiler league....
sparta rotterdam have a good home record lately(last 6 home games=> 5-0-1).
and waalwijk is very poor at away games.
i think HW is very probable but i want to learn sth. about missing from Dutch friends before i take HW @1.70
sparta rotterdam have a good home record lately(last 6 home games=> 5-0-1).
and waalwijk is very poor at away games.
i think HW is very probable but i want to learn sth. about missing from Dutch friends before i take HW @1.70
if i am not wrong waalwijk managed to beat feyenoord in cup game, that makes me think...
RoterTeufel
23-01-07, 11:31
1.42 might sound not that much but i wouldn't be worried to bet a bank on it..
Then you are not very smart, sorry. Ever heard of solid money management? You should never place your whole bank on an event. No matter how likely the outcome seems. As bad an advice as the one you had in december (playing AZ-Over every time). You can take them often as an Over, but not every time. The opponent, the odds and other factors have to be analysed new each and every time.
As for the cup combo: Sound enough, but 1,42 for a triple is still low and doesnt hold much value. So a small bet at max should be placed here.
Willem II - De Graafschap 2 @3.2 ?*
Any nfo! A just see AW :idea:
1.42 might sound not that much but i wouldn't be worried to bet a bank on it..
Then you are not very smart, sorry. Ever heard of solid money management? You should never place your whole bank on an event. No matter how likely the outcome seems. As bad an advice as the one you had in december (playing AZ-Over every time). You can take them often as an Over, but not every time. The opponent, the odds and other factors have to be analysed new each and every time.
As for the cup combo: Sound enough, but 1,42 for a triple is still low and doesnt hold much value. So a small bet at max should be placed here.
you take those words other then i do. I'm sticking to the strategy for over cuz its proven longterm profit with az but i'm not saying its value every time. and putting ur bank on it means for me that if u have 200 in ur betfair account i wouldnt be worried to put it on this. just like putting 200 on psv tb heerenveen is a banker sometimes.. and yes this is a triple but have u read reviews of these matches so far? really, can't see any suprise happening in those 3 matches. Only value for the 2d league teams is with a +handicap.
ericthepilot
23-01-07, 14:26
WILLEM2-DE GRAAFSCHAP HW 8/10
De graafschap will not play for the dutchcup and will concentrate them on the jupiler leaque.
UTRECHT-RBC HW 9/10
RBC will not play for the dutchcup and will concentrate for the jupiler leaque. UTRECHT will play for the dutchcup as they always do.
WILLEM2-DE GRAAFSCHAP HW 8/10
De graafschap will not play for the dutchcup and will concentrate them on the jupiler leaque.
UTRECHT-RBC HW 9/10
RBC will not play for the dutchcup and will concentrate for the jupiler leaque. UTRECHT will play for the dutchcup as they always do.
So,you think this "explanation" is enough for 8/10 and 9/10 ????
Why will Willem concentrate on Dutch Cup and not on fight to avoid relegation from Eredivisie ????
I don`t say Willem won`t win,but we need arguments for pick!
GL however!
The fact that Berry Powel isn't playing seems rather important to me...
So 2.12 is a good bet. I won't be backing it for any lower though. But the thing with the dutch cup is that clubs from the 2nd dvision never get that far. Suprises aren't that frequent, when it comes to 2nd divsion teams beating clubs from the 1st league.
"De graafschap will not play for the dutchcup and will concentrate them on the jupiler leaque. "
ok...reasonable.
BUT...what about Willem motivation in the cup ?
considering they'r in very deep shite fighting relagation.
http://server.mijngraafschap.nl/modules/nieuws.php?cmd_nieuws=print&id_nieuws=3232&nieuws_cat=1
Berry Powel will not play. He scored already 20 goals, so now beukering has to do it.
As I follow Dutch soccer very close, I would say that Willem II will be too strong for graafschap. Willem II underestimated by bookmakers, they were close to away win at roda this weekend (2-1). Although Roda is not playing superb. Willem II are normally ranked in the dutch league as number 6-12 (better performance).
Second reason is that both clubs are focussed to the league's, but Willem II really wants to be in quarter final (almost every year, less big clubs takes uefa qualify advantage). And third is that Willem II has another motivation: do something good this season (look FC utrecht 2-3 years ago, end at bottom but played uefa)
In my opinion we will see a close match, but Willem II will not lose.
Pick: Home win, but draw also possible (so cover it)
GR SKYV
Ajax just 'Sold' Rosales to River and Rosenberg to Werder. Not confirmed, but they will not play(were bench players so don't care).
Not a problem for ajax.
Ajax has Klaas jan. Although there will be only 20.000 in stead of possible 30.000-50.000 fans,
Normally the players of Ajax hurts themselves in such games, by playing full pressing. Look at PSV, are they stupid? The lost against 2nd division clubs and in CL making Arsenal difficult. Very rare, but there are explanations for it.
No bet for me.. It could be 5-2, but also 1-0.
gr SKYV
Not a problem for ajax.
Ajax has Klaas jan. Although there will be only 20.000 in stead of possible 30.000-50.000 fans,
Normally the players of Ajax hurts themselves in such games, by playing full pressing. Look at PSV, are they stupid? The lost against 2nd division clubs and in CL making Arsenal difficult. Very rare, but there are explanations for it.
No bet for me.. It could be 5-2, but also 1-0.
gr SKYV
Will be 30.000, many people will go at the last moment because they don;t have anything to do ;)
Not a problem for ajax.
Normally the players of Ajax hurts themselves in such games, by playing full pressing. Look at PSV, are they stupid? The lost against 2nd division clubs and in CL making Arsenal difficult. Very rare, but there are explanations for it.
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gr SKYV
Ehhhh lost against which 2d club in Holland? (besides alot of years ago..)
hello m8's.
wel http://www.sportone.nl/Voetbal/Nieuws/131011/PSV-verliest-oefenduel-van-1.-FC-Koln.html
check out. psv - fc koln 1-2 (14 jan, 2007)
well sorry m8, i just follow soccer !
ohh andd willem II is 3-1 , 34th minute.
latorrrrr, SKYV
don't mess, win some money menn.
Combo of AZ +3.5, willem II and swansea would give quoete 6.
MAKE SOME MONEYYYY
hello m8's.
wel http://www.sportone.nl/Voetbal/Nieuws/131011/PSV-verliest-oefenduel-van-1.-FC-Koln.html
check out. psv - fc koln 1-2 (14 jan, 2007)
well sorry m8, i just follow soccer !
Koln is a team from germany + it's a friendly. SO dont take those matches into statistics cuz friendlies hardly make sense.
O well az is 4-0 ht. easy :)
don't mess, win some money menn.
Combo of AZ +3.5, willem II and swansea would give QUOTE 6.
Combo of AZ -3.5 you mean i guess...
Yeah you're right -3,5
But what I wanne say: I am sorry for previous message, because I dont want to make jokes, I want te bet.
suc6 guys
I see the preview of Macot on mainpage about Twente-NAC and I quite disagree with it. Odds seem maybe low for Twente but I think this is justified as both central defenders of NAC are injured, this means a HUGE blow in defence as Twentestriker N'Kufo always had big problems with them (also earlier this season). Now against less strong defenders, Twente will likely have it easier in attack. Furthermore I see Twente as the clearly better team (Twente is correct on 4th position in the table, just a few points behind AZ and Ajax) and for Twente the cup is very important, so motivation will certainly not be a problem. NAC is on a good run, but the win against Feyenoord last weekend must not be overrated. I expect another win for Twente.
Peter the Farmer
24-01-07, 10:29
PSV, AZ and Ajax all games with more then 2,5 goals
total odd in trio about 2,20 nice profit and easy money :idea:
First game AZ already 5-0 : Sounds Great !
BLESSURES TROUBLE NAC FOR cup competition
NAC becomes for the cup competition against FC Twente, wednesday evening, troubled through blessures. Ribbed not Penders, Patrick swans district, Victor Sikora, Brian Pinas and Gertjan Tamerus are through blessures not available.
BLESSURES TROUBLE NAC FOR cup competition
NAC becomes for the cup competition against FC Twente, wednesday evening, troubled through blessures. Ribbed not Penders, Patrick swans district, Victor Sikora, Brian Pinas and Gertjan Tamerus are through blessures not available.
give a link for this..or say wich bookies sent you to put such a first posts !
;) :)
Junk Yard Dog
24-01-07, 15:27
BLESSURES TROUBLE NAC FOR cup competition
NAC becomes for the cup competition against FC Twente, wednesday evening, troubled through blessures. Ribbed not Penders, Patrick swans district, Victor Sikora, Brian Pinas and Gertjan Tamerus are through blessures not available.
http://www.nac.nl/nieuws/26969/blessures-plagen-nac-voor-bekerwedstrijd.html
BLESSURES PLAGEN NAC VOOR BEKERWEDSTRIJD
NAC wordt voor de bekerwedstrijd tegen FC Twente, woensdagavond, geplaagd door blessures. Rob Penders, Patrick Zwaanswijk, Victor Sikora, Brian Pinas en Gertjan Tamerus zijn door blessures niet beschikbaar.
what that means blessures? my english is not so good. they won't play today or what?
This means that Rob Penders. Sikora, Pinas and Tamerus have blessures (injuries) and cannot play on Wednesday
Junk Yard Dog
24-01-07, 15:45
what that means blessures? my english is not so good. they won't play today or what?
blessure from Dutch language --------------> injury
Junk Yard Dog
24-01-07, 15:49
This means that Rob Penders. Sikora, Pinas and Tamerus have blessures (injuries) and cannot play on Wednesday
Rob Penders, Patrick Zwaanswijk, Victor Sikora, Brian Pinas and Gertjan Tamerus No Play.
Nac - Feyenoord. Players NAC last sunday:
Sikora(LF) Rigters(CF) Slot(LF)
Salmon(LM) Zonneveld(CM) de Graaf(RM)
Stam(LB) Zwaanswijk(CD) van Gessel(CD) Mtiliga(RB
Zoetebier(GK)
As u can see Sikora, Zwaanswijk are new injury's it will be quite difficult for NAC.
Motivation: I think both clubs are very motivated, as many people already said before in the Netherlands it is shortest way to europe.
FC twente will probably win, but if it's 0-0 half time, who knows. Fc twente last game was just 1-2 to rkc (last 15 minutes, nr18 dutch leage), but they playd at the road.
Does any1 has some new information?
I see more value in Ajax +2.5, psv +2.5, utrecht 1 (combo
Not a problem for ajax.
Ajax has Klaas jan. Although there will be only 20.000 in stead of possible 30.000-50.000 fans,
Normally the players of Ajax hurts themselves in such games, by playing full pressing. Look at PSV, are they stupid? The lost against 2nd division clubs and in CL making Arsenal difficult. Very rare, but there are explanations for it.
No bet for me.. It could be 5-2, but also 1-0.
gr SKYV
Players are fresh in their minds after that nice winterbreak. Plus the fact that no European match is coming up. So I dd say this will never end 1-0.
5-2 is more likely.
Btw...it has been said that Michael Krohn Dehli and Leonardo will be in the line up and Gabri will miss this game.
I don't like 'overs' but this one like AZ yesterday really looks like one.
safebet2007
24-01-07, 19:03
Utrecht, are they playing with full squad? Are they motivated to win this?
Is Ajax playing with full squad? Do they take the cup serious?
safebet2007
25-01-07, 08:35
Luirink, mole angle, Arveladze and Jaliens from first team playing for AZ 2 ??
I think they are gonna rest Arveladze for the sparta game......
Hi All,
Is "Over 2.5 for PSV vs Go Ahead Eagles @ 1.32 " a good bet ?
Is PSV playing with full squad ? Do they take the cup serious ?
sorry for my english :oops:
safebet2007
25-01-07, 09:27
PSV will field their STRONGEST squad for the cup match against Go Ahead Eagles....Almost the same starting eleven from the last match against Herenveen:)
Straight PSV win should be taken at any price above 1.1 with huge stakes.
Saarländer
25-01-07, 10:41
Can somebody say me in wich league AZ Alkmaar B plays?
There is a big diffrence between first and second league. And here I see good chances for a clearly HC Win!
What do you think?
Jan 25, 2007 KNVB Beker PSV Go Ahead Eagles
Jan 26, 2007 Jupiler League BV Veendam Go Ahead Eagles
WTF? Can this be true? Eagles will travel to Eindhoven, and the next day they have a match against Veendam?
Saarländer
25-01-07, 11:14
Jan 25, 2007 KNVB Beker PSV Go Ahead Eagles
Jan 26, 2007 Jupiler League BV Veendam Go Ahead Eagles
WTF? Can this be true? Eagles will travel to Eindhoven, and the next day they have a match against Veendam?
This match isn`t tomorrow it`s on Monday
Peter the Farmer
25-01-07, 13:01
PSV, AZ and Ajax all games with more then 2,5 goals
total odd in trio about 2,20 nice profit and easy money :idea:
First game AZ already 5-0 : Sounds Great !
Second game : Ajax 4-0 Sounds even better!
Now waiting on PSV to reach the 2,5 + and bet is in ! : :D :D :D
What about Roda JC-AZ Alkmaar 2 over 2,5 goals?
turopolcan
25-01-07, 14:55
is roda taking this game seriously i mean with best squad? and how strong is this alkmaar 2, wuill there be any players from the "A" team? cause i think roda should win this with at least 2 goals if there will be only players from B team.
please any information is welcome. tnx
Peter the Farmer
25-01-07, 15:45
Ofcourse Roda will take this game very seriously. For them this is the quickest way to get a UEFA spot.
The winner from the final or the finalist will go directly to the uefa cup.
For Roda smells this like heaven. About the opppertunitys :
Dont underestimate the AZ 2 squad, they have good quality in the team and i think a shure Roda win is far away.
I think this is a real NO BET game, it can go anyway, even the under is good possible in this game.( odds 2,70)
Stay away, save your money for weekend games, is the best pick i can give you ! : :idea:
safebet2007
25-01-07, 15:49
Yes, they have got some first team players in the squad...see my post above.
Eventhough Roda should win this, All top teams are interested in this cup.
I intend to go for the PSV match with huge stakes,as they are playing with full squad and it should be an easy walk over.
Little scared of the name AZ(2), So am not risking 90 min in this match with 'huge stakes'.
Roda should win this....but not an easy walk over like the PSV match.
You're right off course! 1,2 what a shame.
AZ wants to be the biggest of the Netherlands. Who is taking dirck scheringa (owner club) not seriously, is taking big mistake. Although scheringa has nothing to do with the game. AZ will do everything they can to qualify. .
AZ play with arveladze, luijrink, oper, Jaliens and molhoek. Three of these... well u know.
draw q=5 or 2-az(b team) q=12 my pick (low stakes)
koeman has said he will field his strongest 11 and make subs at half time if the score is to his liking.ive taken psv on handicap and over 4 goals @1.65 (bet365) good luck
koeman has said he will field his strongest 11 and make subs at half time if the score is to his liking.ive taken psv on handicap and over 4 goals @1.65 (bet365) good luck
Close stuff. At least u got a winner.
Peter the Farmer
25-01-07, 22:44
PSV, AZ and Ajax all games with more then 2,5 goals
total odd in trio about 2,20 nice profit and easy money :idea:
First game AZ already 5-0 : Sounds Great !
Second game : Ajax 4-0 Sounds even better!
Now waiting on PSV to reach the 2,5 + and bet is in ! : :D :D :D
PSV - Go Ahead 3-2
as already said : Easy Money
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