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Tell me WHY! PSV get a 2.20 odd against Feyenoord, who are struggling every week to win. This weekens they won against Sparta, but it wasn't easy. Sure it's a big game, but remember Feyenoord- Ajax and the quote for Ajax there? Was maybe the easiest win of the year for gamblers. So, PSV in fantastic form, Feyenoord still worth nothing, and u have all the reasons to take PSV with the highest stakes possible and have a great boxing day
PSV is not that great away, they won at Vitesse and especially at Groningen absolutely undeserved and luckily, thx to Gomes mainly.
Yeah, sure mate, predict away win is like mission impossible, like Roda-Twente everybody speaks about away win, and and 2-0 home win, so I will never bet a high stake on away win, never again!
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At first glance I think topclash Feyenoord - PSV will end with a draw. Ok, everything point to AW - ten wins in a row for PSV, all of them with clean sheet, strong defense and atomic attack with Kone and Farfan upfront; poor form from Kakerlaken, especially in defense (wins over weak teams like Ado, Sparta and etc. do not imress at all; lucky win over AZ with 2 shots on target and 2 goals, althought AZ was clearly better side, their third goalie was so crap...). I wont talk about Feye's performance in Europe, if we can call their piss poor play like a performance....
But we have brothers Koeman here leading the teams. They can play to prove theirselvs, but I doubt. For me they will share the points - all in all PSV will be champion, and Feye will be happy with this point, which will concrete them in CL Playoff zone.
Some of you maybe will disagree with me, but that's my opinion.
Good luck and Merry Xmas http://www.forums.eurofootball.bg/images/smilies/HOXmasN009HL.gif!
What about vitesse @ 3.1 . Surely that IS value against NAC, and after todays 4-2 against ajax!
LEEDS4LIFE
24-12-06, 19:51
Wait until the day before and then check out the prices on betfair, much higher than the bookies offer.
utrecht @1,45 seems nice. they play decent football at home (6-2-1). the only team managed to win there was ajax. scoring record 19-6 is quite impressive. on the other side we've got very weak heracles. no other team play worse football (away games) than they are. it seems impossible but they've gained only one single point so far scoring just two goals (2-26!!)
i don't think there's need to write anything more about this game. it looks pretty clear
the only question is if there are any important missings
Any info about injuries and suspended players for Feyenoord - PSV Eindhoven?
PSV:
Jefferson Farfan has been cleared to play, although Manuel Da Costa is sidelined with an ankle injury.
Feyenoord:
Danny Buys and Royston Drenthe are expected to return to the starting line-up but Romeo Castelen (ankle), Pieter Collen (shoulder), Patrick Lodewijks (Achilles) and Karim Saidi (knee) are all unavailable. Angelos Charisteas probably will play, but this is not confirm yet.
IMO the best is X2 for the match Fey-PSV, odds around 1.3. Fey is very good at home, but have hole in the defense, so good option is also PSV to score. Farfan will return, it's very good news for Ronald Koeman, but not for his brother ;) .
Couple days ago on the Dutch tread wrote the stats for last 10 or 12 games where PSV never recived a gol. Some motherfuc*er delete it (hate that), now how about Feyenord not to score :D
Ps:
Remember its holidays time , some players could have taken it easy, and after all PSV are 9 points ahead so would not play it over !
lachupakabra
25-12-06, 21:17
IMO Groningen should win the game easily .. just for the simple idea that they cannot afford any slipups against teams like Sparta .. If somebody can give any info for injured players pls don't be shy :D .. anyways
should be a HW :)
IMO Groningen should win the game easily .. just for the simple idea that they cannot afford any slipups against teams like Sparta .. If somebody can give any info for injured players pls don't be shy :D .. anyways
should be a HW :)
AS YOU WISH LORD :D
Sparta will be without Sani Kaita (M) and Yuri Rose (F). Groningen long time absences Antoine van der Linden (D), Paul Matthijs (D), Mark-Jan Fledderus (M) and Arnold Kruiswijk (D). It's look like home win
lachupakabra
25-12-06, 21:43
Is Paul Matthijs a key figure in Groningen's defence .. it's a familiar name but i don't recall very well .. could you help a little pls :)
Is Paul Matthijs a key figure in Groningen's defence .. it's a familiar name but i don't recall very well .. could you help a little pls :)
He's quite important defender in Groningen.
I sugest you to dont bet on Groningen with hight stake, they form is so far away nowadays.
lachupakabra
25-12-06, 21:54
Let's just assume that they'll be on the attack tomorrow and do not need to defend often .. as I know Sparta love to play defensively :)
Sparta played very well against Fey and after controversial penalty for Fey and lucky goal for them, Sparta lost fight spirit and lose 3:2. IMO against Groningen will be a tight match for both sides.
lachupakabra
25-12-06, 21:59
you're making me doubt mate :D .. one last question ... Nevland is going to play tomorrow right ? :)
you're making me doubt mate :D .. one last question ... Nevland is going to play tomorrow right ? :)
YES GRONINGEN WILL BE PLAY WITH THE SAME SQUAD LIKE AGAINST HERACLES.
Yeah, sure mate, predict away win is like mission impossible, like Roda-Twente everybody speaks about away win, and and 2-0 home win, so I will never bet a high stake on away win, never again!
You smoke too much weed Koper- Jarasz za duzo ziola ziomus, co ty mowisz, koniowi to pan tlumacz ;)
lachupakabra
25-12-06, 22:29
I fancy the chances of an over in Twente AZ match .. IMO that's the most certain thing to occur in the clash as both teams have a unique attacking style .. they just don't stop scoring when they can and I just love those kind of teams which play for the public .. after all sport is for entertainment ..
So Over 2.5 should be a nice bet :)
What about twente - Alkmaar?
Any infos about that match?
what do you lads think?
This game will be played at wednesday, so tommorow is thuesday, wait for futher informations, dont forget teams in Eredivisie will play a lot of games at week, so little rotacions will be for sure. In Twente Jeroen Heubach (D) is suspended. AZ should win against NEC, but AZ striker Koevermans missed penalty in 48'. They have a lot of ocasions, but can't ended situacions at pitch, IMO they minds was at Santa house ;) .
I just want to add another word about the Feyenoord - PSV game. It doesn't matter which players return from injury or suspension with Feyenoord. PSV's squad is just three times better in quality than the Feyenoord squad. The return of Farfan is a real boost for PSV but the striker force Koné-Kluivert is also very dangerous. PSV will not play for a draw in such a "classic game". In 90 minutes of football, considering PSV form and also considering Feyenoords (struggling against Sparta!) form, this should be AW.
I just want to add another word about the Feyenoord - PSV game. It doesn't matter which players return from injury or suspension with Feyenoord. PSV's squad is just three times better in quality than the Feyenoord squad. The return of Farfan is a real boost for PSV but the striker force Koné-Kluivert is also very dangerous. PSV will not play for a draw in such a "classic game". In 90 minutes of football, considering PSV form and also considering Feyenoords (struggling against Sparta!) form, this should be AW.
Kluivert is without form, he play only good against team like Willem 2 or Sparta etc. Farfan who recovered from injury will not be in the best shape. Fey nowadays play very shi**y. IMO PSV will win this, but only medium stakes I recommended.
Mr. Sawyer
25-12-06, 23:12
Any info about injuries and suspended players for Feyenoord - PSV Eindhoven?
PSV:
Jefferson Farfan has been cleared to play, although Manuel Da Costa is sidelined with an ankle injury.
Feyenoord:
Danny Buys and Royston Drenthe are expected to return to the starting line-up but Romeo Castelen (ankle), Pieter Collen (shoulder), Patrick Lodewijks (Achilles) and Karim Saidi (knee) are all unavailable. Angelos Charisteas probably will play, but this is not confirm yet.
Where did you find that info? PSV will play with reserves and wont care bout the match too much because of holiday. (due to point difference)
Resource: EUROSPORT
Where did you find that info? PSV will play with reserves and wont care bout the match too much because of holiday. (due to point difference)
Resource: EUROSPORT
this info is crap
Feyenoord - PSV 2 @ 1,90
Feyenoord last 5 matches: Good results bad their form is very bad..
H Sparta 3-2 Win
A Utrecht 2-1 Lose
H Wisla 3-1 Win
H ADO 3-1 Win
H Heerenveen 4-3 Win
They had difficulties with Sparta, ADO and Heerenveen, but they won. In all games they got a penalty. Very poor team. Should have lost against Sparta with 2-5 instead the 3-2 win.
For tomorrow's game Drenthe and Buijs are back from suspension. But it's unlikely that Buijs will be in the 1st eleven after his 2 red cards. Koeman give's other players his faith.
Probable line-up Feyenoord:
Timmer; Greene(Tiendalli), Vlaar, Lucius, Drenthe; Hofs, Schreuder, De Guzman; Vincken, Charisteas, Huysegems
PSV last 5 matches:
H Willem II 4-0 Win
H Heracles 3-0 Win
A Groningen 2-0 Win
H Bordeaux 3-1 Lose
A Vitesse 1-0 Win
Very decent team. Allways score and are already 11 matches without conceding a single goal in competition. Goalkeeper Gomes is very important for this team, excellent keeper.
Important for PSV is that Farfan can play. If he scores, PSV haven't lost a single match! Da Costa won't play tomorrow, he has an injury.
Probable line-up PSV:
Gomes; Kromkamp, Alex, Simons, Salcido; Afellay, Cocu, Mendez; Farfan, Kluivert, Koné
Conclusion:
If PSV plays like they allways do then they are going to win easily. I don't see Feyenoord score a regular goal tomorrow (only by penalty or free kick), so the 1,9 @ Unibet is a very high stake at the moment and the odd is dropping so be quick. HT/FT 2/2 is also a nice bet. Hope i've informed you enough. PB me for more information!
ps. Patrick Kluivert has never lost a game in Rotterdam in his career!
Most likely line-ups:
Gomes; Kromkamp, Alex, Salcido, Reiziger; Méndez, Simons, Cocu, Afellay; Koné en Farfan
Timmer; Tiendalli, Vlaar, Bahia, Drenthe; Lucius, Hofs, De Guzman; Kolkka, Charisteas en Huysegems
HomeBrewed
26-12-06, 10:19
Feyenoord v PSV
Feyenoord +0.5 $100.00 to win $100.00 (Betfair)
Reasoning:
To big clubs in Holland go to battle in a game that Feyenoord would probably want the points more. Feyenoord sit in 5th place and are keen on getting into 4th position. Feyenoord are looking for Uefa spot next season and must stay in contension. Feyenoord travelled to PSV a month or so ago and had no succes losing 2-1. This time i believe that they could get something from this match at home. PSV has a good team but its ducth soccer and anything can happen. Look at what happened with Ajax v Vittese. I think that Feyenoord can get a point here and will back the half handycap.
Scoreline: 1-1
Can we stop saying: "Feyenoord would probably want the points more"
It's suck BS, why would a team want the points 'more'. Maybe in later stages but not right now. if psv wins, and az/ajax will lose points again tomorrow the gap will get bigger and that's only a good thing for psv. it's really not true a team will think: o well , we dont want the points that much, lets play less motivated halfway trough competition.
If you give that kind of reasons in a preview, your not a good punter imo.
safebet2007
26-12-06, 10:41
Feyenoord vs PSV - History
Dec 11, 2005 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 0
Apr 20, 2005 KNVB Beker Feyenoord PSV 1 - 1
Dec 12, 2004 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 3
May 18, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 1
Sep 21, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 3
2002-03-22 Feyenoord PSV 1-1
Feyenoord - This Season
Dec 23, 2006 Eredivisie Feyenoord Sparta 3 - 2
Dec 13, 2006 UEFA Cup Feyenoord Wisla Krakow 3 - 1
Dec 10, 2006 Eredivisie Feyenoord ADO den Haag 3 - 1
Dec 03, 2006 Eredivisie Feyenoord SC Heerenveen 4 - 3
Nov 23, 2006 UEFA Cup Feyenoord Blackburn 0 - 0
Nov 18, 2006 Eredivisie Feyenoord AZ 3 - 2
Nov 05, 2006 Eredivisie Feyenoord Vitesse 2 - 1
Oct 26, 2006 Eredivisie Feyenoord FC Twente 2 - 1
Those having enough money in their accounts can bet on PSV and hope the result of Sep21,2003 repeat here.
GL
HomeBrewed
26-12-06, 10:43
Dec 11, 2005 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 0
Apr 20, 2005 KNVB Beker Feyenoord PSV 1 - 1
Dec 12, 2004 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 3
May 18, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 1
Sep 21, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 3
2002-03-22 Feyenoord PSV 1-1
Those having enough money in their accounts can bet on PSV and hope the result of Sep21,2003 repeat here.
GL
Kuyt and Kalou were in the team when they faced PSV back then.
safebet2007
26-12-06, 10:47
Dec 11, 2005 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 0
Apr 20, 2005 KNVB Beker Feyenoord PSV 1 - 1
Dec 12, 2004 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 3
May 18, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 1
Sep 21, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 3
2002-03-22 Feyenoord PSV 1-1
Those having enough money in their accounts can bet on PSV and hope the result of Sep21,2003 repeat here.
GL
Kuyt and Kalou were in the team when they faced PSV back then.
Mate, Iam not against PSV, they r the favourites, but not worth risking too much on them while we are having lotta matches today. Thats why I mentioned - Those having enough money in their accounts can bet on PSV and hope the result of Sep21,2003 repeat here.
lol, Hope this clears everything.
Can we stop saying: "Feyenoord would probably want the points more"
It's suck BS, why would a team want the points 'more'. Maybe in later stages but not right now. if psv wins, and az/ajax will lose points again tomorrow the gap will get bigger and that's only a good thing for psv. it's really not true a team will think: o well , we dont want the points that much, lets play less motivated halfway trough competition.
If you give that kind of reasons in a preview, your not a good punter imo.
WRONG!
The first factor is always motivation.Of course,this doesn't happen exactly the way you described " o well , we dont want the points that much, lets play less motivated halfway trough competition."This is smth that happens inside you and most of the time you don't even realize it.
Your choice anyway.
Dec 11, 2005 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 0
Apr 20, 2005 KNVB Beker Feyenoord PSV 1 - 1
Dec 12, 2004 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 3
May 18, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 3 - 1
Sep 21, 2003 Eredivisie Feyenoord PSV 1 - 3
2002-03-22 Feyenoord PSV 1-1
Those having enough money in their accounts can bet on PSV and hope the result of Sep21,2003 repeat here.
GL
Kuyt and Kalou were in the team when they faced PSV back then.
Mate, Iam not against PSV, they r the favourites, but not worth risking too much on them while we are having lotta matches today. Thats why I mentioned - Those having enough money in their accounts can bet on PSV and hope the result of Sep21,2003 repeat here.
lol, Hope this clears everything.
Don't tell me you actually believe in those stats.2003 was 2003 but now is end of 2006,thus your reason is pointless.
One more thing,a soccer match can be played 100 times and we still won't be able to see the true chances revealed,how can you do it after 3,4,5 games from h2h?
safebet2007
26-12-06, 11:02
Ajax have beaten Feyenoord and given them 2 Red Cards. PSV is better than Ajax this season and a PSV win is possible here......
Ajax have beaten Feyenoord and given them 2 Red Cards. PSV is better than Ajax this season and a PSV win is possible here......
Everything is possible,important is to estimate those chances and compare with odds.
HomeBrewed
26-12-06, 11:39
The way i feel is that PSV can be beaten anytime soon. They have gone on a long winning streak and it could stop today and why not. Feyenoord have done it in the past and Feyenoord have been getting results. There home form is good and also Feyenoord do have a relatively good team to spring an upset against PSV. Its worth a shot and i do think Feyenoord get something from this match.
Adothehaque
26-12-06, 11:48
Why everybody thinks this will be a easy win for PSV? Ok, PSV has won a lot matches this season, and feyenoord is very poor this season. But I remember the match Feyenoord - AZ this season. AZ was far the better team and they can win with 2-5 or 2-4 , but struggled on Feyenoord. Dont forget there are 43 000 men in de Kuip behind Feyenoord. Sometimes this word as a boost for feyenoord, like against AZ. I dont know what the result will be, but I dont have very good feelings about a PSV win. Another important thing is that the match this season in Eindhoven was won by PSV with 2-1, but it should be 2-2 cause the refferee dissalowed a feyenoord goal in injury time, and it was a clear goal. Feyenoord wil try to get something against PSV and I think they will get something
HomeBrewed
26-12-06, 11:54
Why everybody thinks this will be a easy win for PSV? Ok, PSV has won a lot matches this season, and feyenoord is very poor this season. But I remember the match Feyenoord - AZ this season. AZ was far the better team and they can win with 2-5 or 2-4 , but struggled on Feyenoord. Dont forget there are 43 000 men in de Kuip behind Feyenoord. Sometimes this word as a boost for feyenoord, like against AZ. I dont know what the result will be, but I dont have very good feelings about a PSV win. Another important thing is that the match this season in Eindhoven was won by PSV with 2-1, but it should be 2-2 cause the refferee dissalowed a feyenoord goal in injury time, and it was a clear goal. Feyenoord wil try to get something against PSV and I think they will get something
Yep, thats also various factors that can be brought into the theory of what could happen in this game.
Adothehaque
26-12-06, 11:55
What about Groningen ?
Dont know, Groningen at home was really strong, but last time they dont show good football. I remember last season Sparta won against Groningen with 0-1, and that year Groningen were very good at home too. I think this match can go either way. Sparta played very well against Feyenoord, and Groningen take a small win against Heracles. I think 1.45 for groningen is way too low
if we look at the stats Psv should win this.But in the last 6 matches(i analyze allways the 6 matches of a team)they did't played with a team that is in the form Feyenoord is.I don't say that Feyenoord is in a great form but even in this form they are better that the last 6 oponnents of PSV.Even Sparta Rotterdam form was better in the moment they played Feyenoord compared with all the oponnents Psv had.No bet for me.You decide.Everything could happen especially that is a derby match.Psv is only winning but what great victory they had in the last 6 matches??
bet on Willem-Ecelsior under 2,5
The way i feel is that PSV can be beaten anytime soon. They have gone on a long winning streak and it could stop today and why not. Feyenoord have done it in the past and Feyenoord have been getting results. There home form is good and also Feyenoord do have a relatively good team to spring an upset against PSV. Its worth a shot and i do think Feyenoord get something from this match.
Cmon mate, such a winning streak in Eredivisie isnt something strange, just see the teams in this league. PSV is not Ajax, AZ or Feye playing mindless football with only attacking and then thinking about defense (:(). PSV rely mainly on their strong defense, which their results are showing, and of course of deadly counterattacks with the 'rabbits' Kone and Farfan upfront, which is the right tactic to play in this league, and of course its very profitable.
And what about Feye? They are craaaap mate, results @ home agains weak teams like Den Haag, Sparta and etc doest showing anything. And about the game with AZ you know what happen there - AZ was fully dominating and two stupid mistakes from their third keeper have stollen the point(s) from them.
GL anyway ;).
Even Sparta Rotterdam form was better in the moment they played Feyenoord compared with all the oponnents Psv had.
You saw the Feyenoord - Sparta game? Feyenoord won thanks to referee! The penalty kick was a Christmas present. Sparta missed two or three chances alone in front of the Feyenoord goalie.
Adothehaque
26-12-06, 12:20
Even Sparta Rotterdam form was better in the moment they played Feyenoord compared with all the oponnents Psv had.
You saw the Feyenoord - Sparta game? Feyenoord won thanks to referee! The penalty kick was a Christmas present. Sparta missed two or three chances alone in front of the Feyenoord goalie.Yes, and dont forget feyenoord hold in the injury time a ball of the line, the draw was very close
safebet2007
26-12-06, 12:24
Considering the defensive errors Feyenoord make and the fire power of PSV, I really fancy PSV winning this for a scoreline of 1-2 or 1-3.
GL
Peter the Farmer
26-12-06, 12:59
I also have a opinion on Feije-PSV game.
Following the against goals from Feije last games http://www.soccerway.com/teams/netherlands/feyenoord-rotterdam-nv/
we see that feije had serious problems in defence.
Despite the quality from Timmer, they struggle many times in defence.
They where lucky in all last games.
I see here a clear away win, Gomez Cocu and Farfan must do it this afternoon !
Have a nice Xmass
i didn't said Feyenoord deserved or not to win against Sparta.i only said that Sparta's form was better then the oponnents of Psv(the last 6 oponnents).so the ideea was that Feyenoord played in the last 6 matches with 2 in form teams Alkmaar and Sparta and Psv didn't played with one in form team in the last 6 matches.So everything could happen in this match
i didn't said Feyenoord deserved or not to win against Sparta.
But today Feyenoord fully deserved the draw ;)
What about alkmaar, he could try much harder to win now, to get closer to psv, but twente is a strong club when playing home, so i was thinking on putting x2, any opinnions?
ApostaGanha
26-12-06, 18:16
Feyenoord v PSV
Feyenoord +0.5 $100.00 to win $100.00 (Betfair)
Reasoning:
To big clubs in Holland go to battle in a game that Feyenoord would probably want the points more. Feyenoord sit in 5th place and are keen on getting into 4th position. Feyenoord are looking for Uefa spot next season and must stay in contension. Feyenoord travelled to PSV a month or so ago and had no succes losing 2-1. This time i believe that they could get something from this match at home. PSV has a good team but its ducth soccer and anything can happen. Look at what happened with Ajax v Vittese. I think that Feyenoord can get a point here and will back the half handycap.
Scoreline: 1-1
Bullseye, great preview Jig-Jag!
I found this (http://www.sportinglife.com/football/overseas/holland/news/story_get.dor?STORY_NAME=international_feed/06/12/26/SOCCER_Ned-FC_Utrecht_Preview.html&TEAMHD=holland) preview on the net for tomorrow Utrecht vs. Heracles game. Looks like Utrecht has two regular players missing while Heracles also has one. Could someone comment how important those are?
About the game, I think there is little doubt who will win there. I rarely see such an awful away record such as Heracles one. They will want to get something from this game of course, but they are not directly relegation threatened and this is away game, so I think they will just put another poor performance.
Heracles Almelo are the visitors to FC Utrecht on Wednesday as they try to turn their poor form into some points at the Stadion Galgenwaard.
The hosts are on a promising run at the moment and their last two games have produced a 2-1 win over Feyenoord and a fighting 1-1 draw at RKC Waalwijk.
After the last match though, coach Foeke Booy was disappointed with his team's performance.
"We must thank our goalie Michel Vorm for this point," said Booy. "He had a few important saves and was the only one who played well. Our team played terribly and did not show any strength at all."
However, with a home record only second to league leaders PSV Eindhoven, Booy is confident ahead of the visit of Heracles.
"We practically gain all our point in home matches," he added. "The difference between the team at home and away is huge. This is something that has to change soon.
"If we play with the same strength as we did in our last home match against Feyenoord, we must be able to win. We have more individual qualities and are hard to beat at home.
"After our dreadful display last Sunday we have to come back with a strong performance tomorrow," he added.
Left-back Edson Braafheid is a key concern for Booy as he has a sprained ankle, while striker Giuseppe Rossini is suspended.
His opposite number Ruud Brood also has one injury concern, with Diego Biseswar (back) the main worry.
Eddy Bosnar is expected to return after serving a one match suspension.
Heracles are struggling just two points above the relegation zone and a win for Brood will be a welcome boost.
And what about the rest of the games?
19:55 Ado Den Haag - RKC Waalwijk
2.10 3.30 3.10
19:55 FC Twente - AZ
3.00 3.30 2.15
19:55 FC Utrecht - Heracles Almelo
1.40 3.75 8.10
19:55 NAC Breda - Vitesse
2.35 3.30 2.70
19:55 NEC Nijmegen - SC Heerenveen
2.25 3.30 2.80
20:10 Ajax - Roda JC
1.30 4.50 9.00
odds from unibet
AZ will miss Opdam, Koevermans, Gudjonsson, Luijckx, Steinsson.
Twente will miss Heubach (suspended)
AZ will miss Opdam, Koevermans, Gudjonsson, Luijckx, Steinsson.
Twente will miss Heubach (suspended)
Except Opdam, I dont see the others as big problem. With Arveladze and Dembele and Martens just behind them AZ are enough dangerious to cause problems to Twente. Imo their winning streak @ home (6 wins in a row) will end tomorrow, but not quite confident about AW.
AZ will miss Opdam, Koevermans, Gudjonsson, Luijckx, Steinsson.
Twente will miss Heubach (suspended)
Except Opdam, I dont see the others as big problem. With Arveladze and Dembele and Martens just behind them AZ are enough dangerious to cause problems to Twente. Imo their winning streak @ home (6 wins in a row) will end tomorrow, but not quite confident about AW.
It's a tricky game. Twente could win it because they are very strong at home. Draw is possible.
pio vassallo
27-12-06, 00:23
Do you think Ultrecht is to be considered a banker? they seem to be in a good walk but would like to know more . Any missings and all info is appreciated thanks
Ajax Amsterdam vs Roda Kerkrade
After shocking turnover match against Vitesse, Ajax lost all points after 2:0 lead on half time. They've conceded two quick goals (in 2 mins) to tie the score. After Gabri's second bookie (70'), Vitesse took all in their hands and score antoher 2 for 3 more points. Henk ten Cate was furious with that display and he decided to punish the players with fine and give them no rest, even on Christmas. Of course, the players aren't happy about that, but the angry is absolutely understandable. On their luck AZ got only a point in last match, so the difference between them is just 2 points (in favour of AZ). Now, after 3 away matches on a road with 6 points in their pockets, they will finally play at home, but they will have another hard exam playing away against NEC on Saturday. Ten Cate won't allow another surprising failure, having in mind that every moment AZ could go far away and also other teams (Feyenoord and Twente) are really close, so there is no room for relaxing. Gabri is suspended after that red card in last game and he will join Kenneth Perez. However, Heitinga is back and ready to play.
Roda is temporary in safe mid-table coming to Amsterdam with a win against Twente, breaking 3 games winless streak. However, they don't have away win for almost 3 months (1:0 in Tilburg, 30/09), collecting only 2 points in last 6 matches and with only 3 goals scored in that period. Roda has got almost full squad available, having only van Dessel sidelined.
Ajax -1.5 (1.83 @ VC Bet) 6/10
AZ will miss Opdam, Koevermans, Gudjonsson, Luijckx, Steinsson.
Twente will miss Heubach (suspended)
Except Opdam, I dont see the others as big problem. With Arveladze and Dembele and Martens just behind them AZ are enough dangerious to cause problems to Twente. Imo their winning streak @ home (6 wins in a row) will end tomorrow, but not quite confident about AW.
Just to mention...Koevermans is team topscorer with 13 goals, so if he gonna miss (although I haven't seen that info) that could be "big problem"...
Just to mention...Koevermans is team topscorer with 13 goals, so if he gonna miss (although I haven't seen that info) that could be "big problem"...
According to this article he is out for tonight...
http://www.eredivisie.nl/subpage.aspx?l1=1637&subaction=details&newsid=226445&from=homepage&type=1
HomeBrewed
27-12-06, 08:47
Ajax v Roda JC
Ajax -1.5 $300.00 to win $300.00 (Betfair)
Reasoning:
If Ajax want the title, they must learn to win games on a consistent basis. There last outing was a piss poor effort. They went into the 2nd half up 2-0 and then stumbling and losing 4-2, letting in 4 goals in the 2nd half. Ajax have a great team with good players in Huntelaar/Babel/Emanuelson etc. There just not dominating like PSV do which says something about there chances of winning the title. Ten Cate is very confident in winning this game against Roda who have redeemed themselves from there lack of winning games, they won last week against Twente 2-0.
Scoreline:3-1
Twente v AZ Alkmaar
Both teams to score $200.00 to win $100.00 (Sportingbet)
Reasoning:
Two decent teams go into battle. Alkmaar are 2nd and want these points, because they know that Ajax are going to try very hard to win there game against Roda. Twente lost there last match against Roda. Twente are very strong at home, winning there last 6. Alkmaar will find it hard against Twente, Twente are a good home team with good defense and will make hard for AZ as much as possible. I think Alkmaar can get something here, but they will need to score.
Scoreline:1-1
Do you think Ultrecht is to be considered a banker? they seem to be in a good walk but would like to know more . Any missings and all info is appreciated thanks
Look above :D
Twente v AZ Alkmaar
Both teams to score $200.00 to win $100.00 (Sportingbet)
Reasoning:
Two decent teams go into battle. Alkmaar are 2nd and want these points, because they know that Ajax are going to try very hard to win there game against Roda. Twente lost there last match against Roda. Twente are very strong at home, winning there last 6. Alkmaar will find it hard against Twente, Twente are a good home team with good defense and will make hard for AZ as much as possible. I think Alkmaar can get something here, but they will need to score.
Scoreline:1-1
This f***ed up Betgun has no events like "both to score". Jig-Jag do you see an over here??? Both teams are attacking ones and AZ even without Koevermans are able to score more than once... Can you help please?? and I hope your Ajax's pick is good again ;)
GL to all!!!!
Twente - AZ
Both teams are scoring easily throughout the season. AZ is 1st and Twente is 4th. Absence of Koevermans give the thought that hungry for goals Dembele will sparkle.
I am pretty convinced for
Mid stake 5/10 for OVER @ 1.55... gamebookers
Yeah, but last AZ's match finished with 0-0 draw... Maybe big come back to scoring form... waiting for opinions...
Past matches between NEC and Heerenveen ;
Sep 17, 2006 Eredivisie SC Heerenveen NEC 3 - 0
Apr 01, 2006 Eredivisie NEC SC Heerenveen 4 - 1
Sep 23, 2005 Eredivisie SC Heerenveen NEC 2 - 1
May 22, 2005 Eredivisie SC Heerenveen NEC 2 - 1
Dec 19, 2004 Eredivisie NEC SC Heerenveen 3 - 2
Feb 28, 2004 Eredivisie NEC SC Heerenveen 1 - 2
Oct 25, 2003 Eredivisie SC Heerenveen NEC 1 - 2
Apr 12, 2003 Eredivisie SC Heerenveen NEC 2 - 3
Sep 29, 2002 Eredivisie NEC SC Heerenveen 4 - 2
Mar 23, 2002 Eredivisie SC Heerenveen NEC 4 - 0
I found last 10 matches between this teams and all of them finished Over 2.5 GOALS and 8 of 10 finished Both team to score..
If we look the past matches, there are enough reasons to bet them but only 1 match finished Over 2.5 GOALS at homeground of NEC in this season..
Heerenveen has good attacking power with good strikers like Afonso Alves and R. Friend..
what do u think about this match?
Yeah, but last AZ's match finished with 0-0 draw... Maybe big come back to scoring form... waiting for opinions...
I"m not so sure - I see here a close event and the Under 3.5 option at my Local - 1.75 is value in my eyes :
Home line for Twente 9 8 1 0 31-8 - so only eight goals receved in nine matches ;) :idea:
Head to head stats
2006-09-17 14:30 AZ Alkmaar 2 2 Twente
2006-04-12 20:00 AZ Alkmaar 0 0 Twente
2005-12-10 20:00 Twente 1 3 AZ Alkmaar
2005-05-15 14:30 Twente 3 0 AZ Alkmaar
2004-12-11 20:00 AZ Alkmaar 5 0 Twente
2004-02-28 20:00 Twente 4 1 AZ Alkmaar
2003-08-22 20:00 AZ Alkmaar 3 0 Twente
2003-03-01 20:00 Twente 0 0 AZ Alkmaar
2002-10-26 20:00 AZ Alkmaar 1 2 Twente
2002-03-30 20:00 AZ Alkmaar 0 2 Twente
......................
No value at all in 1,55 for the over in Twente - AZ IMO
It will be a tight match where the slightly better team is guest so thee u/o this time looks tricky.
I agree with the both to score bet as it has better chances to come out than the over and the odds are almost the same.
Sportingbet is offering -2 EH for Ajax and they made it right.
-1 should be a very nice bet but -2 is quite risky.
I took the 1/1 HT/FT option as the odds 1.74 looks great.
In this one way match (expected) IMO this should be the best possible bet.
Cheers
AZ will miss Opdam, Koevermans, Gudjonsson, Luijckx, Steinsson.
Twente will miss Heubach (suspended)
Except Opdam, I dont see the others as big problem. With Arveladze and Dembele and Martens just behind them AZ are enough dangerious to cause problems to Twente. Imo their winning streak @ home (6 wins in a row) will end tomorrow, but not quite confident about AW.
Just to mention...Koevermans is team topscorer with 13 goals, so if he gonna miss (although I haven't seen that info) that could be "big problem"...
i know complitly differen t things about toaday's az:
sinuah, didukica, opdam and steinsson are missing.
i don't know about the other names that you mention.
can some one from netherland help us with that info?
thanks
NEC Nijmegen v Heerenveen
NEC are the top of the form lately. After 4 straight wins, they managed to grab away a point from Alkmaar (0:0), keeping their net untouched for more than 360 minutes. Now, they are looking to extend to undefeated row up to 3 matches after winning over Utrecht (2:0) and Feyenoord (4:1) in last 2 matches on De Goffert stadium. However, the things will be little bit harder after losing very good striker Andrzej Niedzielan, who will miss this game due suspension (yellow card limit). Captain Peter Wisgerhof will also be sidelined because of ankle injury, while Edgar Barreto and Ferne Snoyl are both expecting to be back in squad.
Heerenveen is battling to keep their place which would guarantee a ticket for Uefa Cup competition for next season. They are 6 points behind 5th Twente, but with better effort in away matches (3-1-5) they could catch them really soon (starting today). They are conceding 2 goals per match in average, which is absolutely too much for some higher positions right now. Last two away matches were played exactly against both of biggest rivals for 4th and 5th position at the moment - Feyenoord (3:4) and Twente (1:5). Jeroen Drost, Niklas Tarvajarvi, Paul Bosvelt, Petter Hansson and Ugur Yildirim are all expecting to miss this clash due injuries, while Thomas Pranger is back after serving the suspension. However, they have in-form Afonso Alves, who scored 17 goals already, holding on the top of the topscorers list in Eredivisie infront of N'Kufo (Twente) and Koevermars (AZ). Also, he scored in last two matches, so NEC defence must be watching him all the time if they want to keep clean sheet.
Under 3 (1.70 @ Internet 1x2) 7/10
Twente - AZ
Both teams are scoring easily throughout the season. AZ is 1st and Twente is 4th. Absence of Koevermans give the thought that hungry for goals Dembele will sparkle.
I am pretty convinced for
Mid stake 5/10 for OVER @ 1.55... gamebookers
Taking OVER for 1,55 is a big mistake! This could be a defensive style match, two teams first will be thinking about not to lose than score one, Odd @1,55 for 3 goals in the match where two teams good teams play is too much risky with this stupid odds!
So what's the last news? Koevermans will play or not?
HomeBrewed
27-12-06, 11:19
Yeah, but last AZ's match finished with 0-0 draw... Maybe big come back to scoring form... waiting for opinions...
Betgun really sucks, they don't offer much though. The over in the NEC/Heerenveen game looks ok. Could try with small-medium stakes. The history is on the overs side.
So what's the last news? Koevermans will play or not?
AZ will miss three first team-players: Koevermans, Steinsson and Opdam. Schaars will also be rested, but that's been the case in several matches now. All other missing players mentioned are not important.
Twente will be without Heubach, who is suspended. Furthermore they have a couple of long-term injuries, nothing new.
I think Twente will prove to be a very hard nut to crack for AZ.
Hm... I have a strange feeling that Gigx can be fully right with NEC-H'veen under... And for me even without Koevermans AZ and Twente can score more than 2...
Twente 40 goals scored, 31 @ home...
AZ 52 scored, 22 away...
The fact is that both also concede very few...
This way or another I think that my pick would be on OVER... correct me if I'm wrong... But it's hard to see here under when these to teams have the best strikers in Eredivisie...
AZ will miss Opdam, Koevermans, Gudjonsson, Luijckx, Steinsson.
Twente will miss Heubach (suspended)
Except Opdam, I dont see the others as big problem. With Arveladze and Dembele and Martens just behind them AZ are enough dangerious to cause problems to Twente. Imo their winning streak @ home (6 wins in a row) will end tomorrow, but not quite confident about AW.
Just to mention...Koevermans is team topscorer with 13 goals, so if he gonna miss (although I haven't seen that info) that could be "big problem"...
i know complitly differen t things about toaday's az:
sinuah, didukica, opdam and steinsson are missing.
i don't know about the other names that you mention.
can some one from netherland help us with that info?
thanks
AZ will miss Barry Opdam, Danny Koevermans, Kees Luijckx, Grétar Steinsson and Khalid Sinouh.
Opdam, Steinsson and Koevermans are the important ones.
Arveladze ,the best AZ player will start, there should not be too serious problem in attack.
Twente strong at home,
AZ is an offensive team,
so over 2.5 is a good option this evening. :D
Arveladze ,the best AZ player will start, there should not be too serious problem in attack.
The fact you come from Georgia doesn't affect your judgement? ;)
Arveladze ,the best AZ player will start, there should not be too serious problem in attack.
The fact you come from Georgia doesn't affect your judgement? ;)
not at all my dear friend;)
just ask for somebody from Holland about it .
Arveladze,a 33 -year old forward ,has scored 17 goals already in this season .
Arveladze ,the best AZ player will start, there should not be too serious problem in attack.
The fact you come from Georgia doesn't affect your judgement? ;)
not at all my dear friend;)
just ask for somebody from Holland about it .
Arveladze,a 33 -year old forward ,has scored 17 goals already in this season .
As my username might give away, I am from Holland. AZ have some very talented players in the team. Koevermans is their league's topscorer, but I agree Arveladze is very important for the team. :)
cmiranda78
27-12-06, 14:42
Hi to all
Any news of the match (injuries - players outs - etc etc)
Den Haag vs RKC ??????
Please, thanks u
ps: The value in bwin for Den Haag, dropping of 2.10 to 1.95
So guys...option BOTH TEAMS TO SCORE is the best bet on matches AJAX - RODA and TWENTE - AZ ? odds are around 1.75 I also think that match with most likely both teams to score is NAC - VITESSE (Lazovic is in superb form and of course whole Witesse)
Hi to all
Any news of the match (injuries - players outs - etc etc)
Den Haag vs RKC ??????
Please, thanks u
ps: The value in bwin for Den Haag, dropping of 2.10 to 1.95
Den Haag: Jesper Hakansson, Konstantinos Loumpoutis, Angelo Martha (injured), Pascal Bosschaart, Paulus Roiha, Stefan Postma (?) and Stijn Vreven (suspended)
RKC: Frank van Mosselveld, Tim Bakens and Nick van der Velden (all injured)
Strange about the odds, but I prefer RKC here...
cmiranda78
27-12-06, 14:58
Hi to all
Any news of the match (injuries - players outs - etc etc)
Den Haag vs RKC ??????
Please, thanks u
ps: The value in bwin for Den Haag, dropping of 2.10 to 1.95
Den Haag: Jesper Hakansson, Konstantinos Loumpoutis, Angelo Martha (injured), Pascal Bosschaart, Paulus Roiha, Stefan Postma (?) and Stijn Vreven (suspended)
RKC: Frank van Mosselveld, Tim Bakens and Nick van der Velden (all injured)
Strange about the odds, but I prefer RKC here...
Thanks ;)
Arveladze ,the best AZ player will start, there should not be too serious problem in attack.
The fact you come from Georgia doesn't affect your judgement? ;)
not at all my dear friend;)
just ask for somebody from Holland about it .
Arveladze,a 33 -year old forward ,has scored 17 goals already in this season .
As my username might give away, I am from Holland. AZ have some very talented players in the team. Koevermans is their league's topscorer, but I agree Arveladze is very important for the team. :)
I knew you are from Holland ,appreciate your job her ;)
right,Az have some very talented players.
At last ,what you think what should be outcome of this match ?
over 2,5 goals :oops: or something else
maybe Arveladze anytime scorer :)
So guys...option BOTH TEAMS TO SCORE is the best bet on matches AJAX - RODA and TWENTE - AZ ? odds are around 1.75 I also think that match with most likely both teams to score is NAC - VITESSE (Lazovic is in superb form and of course whole Witesse)
Hm, I don't know if Roda is going to score in Amsterdam ArenA, difficult for them I think. It's possible in Twente - AZ imo.
Arveladze ,the best AZ player will start, there should not be too serious problem in attack.
The fact you come from Georgia doesn't affect your judgement? ;)
not at all my dear friend;)
just ask for somebody from Holland about it .
Arveladze,a 33 -year old forward ,has scored 17 goals already in this season .
As my username might give away, I am from Holland. AZ have some very talented players in the team. Koevermans is their league's topscorer, but I agree Arveladze is very important for the team. :)
Yeah, definitely Shota is very important for AZ, not only because of his experience and scoring abilities, but because of his leadership.
As for Koevermans replacement - Dembele, he is great talent (I'm a big fan of him). If he play his game, the show is guaranteed ;).
What abour Utrecht - Heracles game? Is Heracles really that weak as table shows?
[Can somebody tell me if the missing of Rob Penders is important for Breda; thnx
Hi to all
Any news of the match (injuries - players outs - etc etc)
Den Haag vs RKC ??????
Please, thanks u
ps: The value in bwin for Den Haag, dropping of 2.10 to 1.95
Den Haag: Jesper Hakansson, Konstantinos Loumpoutis, Angelo Martha (injured), Pascal Bosschaart, Paulus Roiha, Stefan Postma (?) and Stijn Vreven (suspended)
RKC: Frank van Mosselveld, Tim Bakens and Nick van der Velden (all injured)
Strange about the odds, but I prefer RKC here...
Thanks ;)
Well on Betfair i took den Haag @ 2.06 and it´s up to 2.26 now...
This game is huge for both teams, i think ADO will edge it out and continue to show some improvement
Dembele is better player then Koevermans, so I don't see AZ losing tonight against Twente. Even the miss Opdam is better for the team I think.. Donk wil replace him. Maybe -1 for AZ.
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At last ,what you think what should be outcome of this match ?
over 2,5 goals :oops: or something else
maybe Arveladze anytime scorer :)[/quote]
I find this a very difficult match to predict. Both teams miss players in defence (Opdam and Steinsson for AZ, Heubach for Twente), but both teams should be able to replace them. AZ miss Koevermans, but I expect Dembele (a superb talent) to be able to replace him. These are both strong teams, I wouldn't want to bet on who is going to win. I do think that both teams will try to play offensively.Overs looks more likely than unders. Still, hard match to call. At the moment I only have a bet on a double Ajax/Utrecht.
Maybe I'm not 100% objective, but I don't see AZ as favourite against Twente. Twente is excellent at home and they play just good football, they lost against Roda but it was a bit unlucky and Roda away is not so easy. Twente is only 4 points behind AZ in the ranking and the first match between these two teams this season ended in 2-2 in Alkmaar, where Twente was much closer to the win than AZ was. Twente often plays well against AZ at home in the last years and with this team a good result is again very well possible. Twente +1/4 seems interesting to me, I don't think there's that much difference between the two current teams and Twente has the homeadvantage.
[Can somebody tell me if the missing of Rob Penders is important for Breda; thnx
Yes, he is quite an important player in their defence. Even with him playing I am not very impressed with NAC's defence. Tonight they will play against in-form offensive players like Hersi and Lazovic who will cause them problems imo.
Maybe I'm not 100% objective, but I don't see AZ as favourite against Twente. Twente is excellent at home and they play just good football, they lost against Roda but it was a bit unlucky and Roda away is not so easy. Twente is only 4 points behind AZ in the ranking and the first match between these two teams this season ended in 2-2 in Alkmaar, where Twente was much closer to the win than AZ was. Twente often plays well against AZ at home in the last years and with this team a good result is again very well possible. Twente +1/4 seems interesting to me, I don't think there's that much difference between the two current teams and Twente has the homeadvantage.
Totally agree
[Can somebody tell me if the missing of Rob Penders is important for Breda; thnx
Yes, he is quite an important player in their defence. Even with him playing I am not very impressed with NAC's defence. Tonight they will play against in-form offensive players like Hersi and Lazovic who will cause them problems imo.
thgnx and so u think, Vitesse x2 and over or both to score are good options or what u advice; or better to skip the game.
ScorpioRed
27-12-06, 19:29
Feyenoord 1
AZ 2
What are you talking about? Feyenoord was already played yesterday?
Peter the Farmer
27-12-06, 19:33
den Haag vs RKC Waalwijk
RKC away and at home are 2 different teams.
Ofcourse they will struggle tonight to get some points here, but look at there away games, mmh im not impressed.
On the other hand Den Haag. I think this battle tonight which is very important for both wil go to the home side, despite some players are missing.
Den Haag will have there home crowd and be shure they have more moral then RKC which have only 3 points in 8 away games with very defensiv play so far ( brrrrrrrrr bad )
They received 23 Goals in 8 games so middled 3 goals per game.
Total goals from den haag at home nt impressible to, but the struggling for points will be the factor.
Anylized on motivation and will strength, i see just one winner here :
den Haag
Peter you're wrong. ADO has a good team, but also RKC has a good team. RKC is just better in finishing tonight and that's why they're going to win tonight from ADO.. X2 is a good bet!
safebet2007
27-12-06, 19:48
N.E.C. Nijmegen???
Why they can't win?
History shows some positive results when N.E.C is playing home.
Any Views.....?
ADO Den haag, N.E.C - I think both can show something today, worst case can be draw.
UTRECHT at home is also a prospective bet.
Peter the Farmer
27-12-06, 19:48
Just wait and see what happening bruintje ! relax !
"Good" teams at the bottom of the eredivisie don't exist.
This is gonna bee War tonight, and i'm shure the most gangsters are on home side.
a lot of yellow cards to :D
Former Barca Coach improve AZ Alkmaar .
Good Coach only not suitable in spanish
Twente - AZ
Both teams are scoring easily throughout the season. AZ is 1st and Twente is 4th. Absence of Koevermans give the thought that hungry for goals Dembele will sparkle.
I am pretty convinced for
Mid stake 5/10 for OVER @ 1.55... gamebookers
Taking OVER for 1,55 is a big mistake! This could be a defensive style match, two teams first will be thinking about not to lose than score one, Odd @1,55 for 3 goals in the match where two teams good teams play is too much risky with this stupid odds!
oops, i did it again :)
Feyenoord 1
AZ 2
What are you talking about? Feyenoord was already played yesterday?
Sorry, I wrote that 2 days ago but sometthing was wrong with my computer and it's post yesterday, :idea: by the way I miss :(
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