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GAME 5, November 23 :
GROUPA
RheinEnergie vs. Prokom November 23, 2006 20:15 CET
GROUP B
Cibona vs. Maccabi Elite November 23, 2006 19:00 CET
Panathinaikos vs. Unicaja November 23, 2006 19:45 CET
GROUP C
Zalgiris vs. CSKA Moscow November 23, 2006 19:45 CET
Benetton Treviso vs. Aris TT Bank November 23, 2006 20:45 CET
Winterthur FCB vs. Fenerbahce Ulker November 23, 2006 20:45 CET
Eldo Napoli vs. Pau-Orthez November 23, 2006 20:45 CET
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Cibona VIP Zagreb - Maccabi Tel Aviv 23.11.06 19:00 2,20 1,55
Panathinaikos Athen - Unicaja Malaga 23.11.06 19:45 1,15 5,00
BC Zalgiris Kaunas - CSKA Moscow 23.11.06 19:45 3,20 1,30
Rhein Energie Köln - Prokom Trefl Sopot 23.11.06 20:15 1,50 2,35
Benetton Treviso - Aris TT Bank 23.11.06 20:45 1,25 3,60
Eldo Napoli - Pau Orthez 23.11.06 20:45 1,55 2,20
Winterthur F.C. Barcelona - Fenerbahce Ulker 23.11.06 20:45 1,10 6,20
odds:bet-at-home
my picks without hendipec are napoli and benetton....both play better and both will play at home...this is for me the biggest advantage...yes its true both have also better players but as l said home court will
be crusial factor here.so home wins.
l also like prokom but infos about injuries will be very welcome...odd on prokom is realy huge.
Malaga now with full players and they have very good roster that could suprise pana ... i see some big value on them with the hendi cap @ +10 in most of the bookies and i'm just thinking now about the stakes if to go high or to stay with medium stakes..
Napoli -3 1.85
Pao is too weak away from home,1-5 in LNB(even Bourg :o beat them)
Napoli play much better at home,with crazy supporters can beat most teams in Europe.Pao is downtrend(Paris beat them last weekend),so Napoli will win this one and give the second win to own fans.
HP -3 isn't a big ,and it will be covered. :)
1st pick. Koln - Prokom (+3) @ 1,87 Triobet
We are backing Polish team as always. This time they have a really weak opponent. Koln has nothing to stand against Slanina, Dalmau, Masiulis, Wojcik and other players. Prokom is playing team game and the results should be getting better week after week. All we need to win this pick is players motivation playing an away match and we think we will get Prokom win.
Good luck!
2nd pick. Zalgiris – CSKA (http://www.rakasbets.com)
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Everyone is fit in Zalgiris and are able to fight. We think they will be at least able to score an over (one of our picks for tonight). 71 for Zalgiris at home after Machado return is not a lot.
Other short previews about every game are also able on our site and we will publish our third pick later.
Good luck!
Everyone is fit in Zalgiris and are able to fight. We think they will be at least able to score an over (one of our picks for tonight). 71 for Zalgiris at home after Machado return is not a lot.
Other short previews about every game are also able on our site and we will publish our third pick later.
Good luck!
my opinion is that zalgiris is very good team.odd on cska is very low so l will try this great odd on zalgiris.they will play against champion but champion didnt show last year form so as l said l will try zalgiris.
Everyone is fit in Zalgiris and are able to fight. We think they will be at least able to score an over (one of our picks for tonight). 71 for Zalgiris at home after Machado return is not a lot.
Other short previews about every game are also able on our site and we will publish our third pick later.
Good luck!
my opinion is that zalgiris is very good team.odd on cska is very low so l will try this great odd on zalgiris.they will play against champion but champion didnt show last year form so as l said l will try zalgiris.
i don`t think about moneyline in this match, but i want say something. Machado is playing terrible at the moment and he is the biggest disadvantage in ofence. Also, Penney and Mottola is disgusting at defence, so i feel it should be over for Smodis or Langdon... :roll:
_constantine_
22-11-06, 23:53
I see great value on Fulker hcp 12.5. Barcelona have a great team but I really don't know what is happening with them this year. They lost some matches at home from much weaker teams. Fulker after their win at home is now coming optymisitc to Barcelona.
Pick: Fulker + 12.5
Surely the bet of the day for me.
GL
I see great value on Fulker hcp 12.5. Barcelona have a great team but I really don't know what is happening with them this year. They lost some matches at home from much weaker teams. Fulker after their win at home is now coming optymisitc to Barcelona.
Pick: Fulker + 12.5
Surely the bet of the day for me.
GL
my friend ulker is playing without solomon so be carefull with your pick.
my best pick for me today is benneton.they are in good form,they are getting better and better every game they play and because i am from greece and i have seen aris i dont like their anarchy kind of play that deppends in indivitual efforts from their american players.So i believe that benneton can win and also cover the handicap of 6.5 points.
my second pick which im thinking of is cibona +4.5.I saw cibona in their game against partizan and i saw a team that never gives up and plays without fear.The player that impressed me was davor kus the playmaker which is a different player from what i have seen while he was playing here in athens with a.e.k.On the other hand maccabi is not the team they used to be i also saw their game against partizan and they were bad.i need some help from our croatian friends.
my second pick which im thinking of is cibona +4.5.I saw cibona in their game against partizan and i saw a team that never gives up and plays without fear.The player that impressed me was davor kus the playmaker which is a different player from what i have seen while he was playing here in athens with a.e.k.On the other hand maccabi is not the team they used to be i also saw their game against partizan and they were bad.i need some help from our croatian friends.
If you wached them against Malaga you would rather change your opinion.
They had +16 in last q. and manage to win it in extras. Mach ended 74 all.
I dont say Macabi is a tough this season but..
FreeTipsProfits
23-11-06, 12:08
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Cibona Zagreb Vs Maccabi Elite
ML - Maccabi Elite over Cibona Zagreb
@1.75 - Pinnaclesports - 9/10
I see much difference between the two teams and 1,75 IMO is agreatest value.
The Cibona is a team of medium level, without greatest individualities and with an unit of the small to my warning decidedly bad, even if has started the season enough well is in the Adriatic League that in the Euroleague. The Maccabi is a team of good value, for sure a team much new and also for this reason in the first weeks it has had a little of difficulty, but it's sure of a greater level regarding the Croatians, with players of absolute value as Vujcic, Jasaitis, Bynum, Buford etc.
I really don't understand as in this match the Israelis can be worth over 1.60, then it's obvious that if will repeat the match of Belgrade they can calmly lose, but seen the difference of rosters the Israelis are without doubt the great favorites of this match and IMO go taken with extreme confidence.
Others Match:
Cska, Benetton and Barsa would have to win enough easy, they are of an advanced level regarding the adversaries and the odds in these match are perfect.
Pau and Unicaja theoretically can play the match at par, the French are the surprise of this Euroleague and sure they have all the means in order to make match, also seeing that Naples is a team of medium value, for sure little continuous and I not creed that Ellis can change the real value of the Italian team.
The Spanish of the Unicaja after the recover of Brown are playing a very nice basketball, have a teamof great value, with players as Welsch, Sanchez, Santiago, Jimenez, Brown etc... and maybe IMO 9,5 of handicap are too many, although the Pao at home is a fantastic team.
Koln-Prokom is a match to choice, light prevalence for the Germans, than lately they are making well, but it's a clearly no bet.
Can you tell me sth about Barca and Panata matches? coz i'm going to put some money on both of these and I wonder if there is sth i should know before. Are they sure bets?
Everyone is fit in Zalgiris and are able to fight. We think they will be at least able to score an over (one of our picks for tonight). 71 for Zalgiris at home after Machado return is not a lot.
Other short previews about every game are also able on our site and we will publish our third pick later.
Good luck!
my opinion is that zalgiris is very good team.odd on cska is very low so l will try this great odd on zalgiris.they will play against champion but champion didnt show last year form so as l said l will try zalgiris.
yes, maybe zalgiris good team, but they have the worst coach in euroleague.
bagatskis vs messina:D
nothing to add
Panathinaikos-Unicaja Malaga
Panathiniakos is 4-0 already, winning with 14ppg average. That is very respectful and I think that they will play one of the main roles this year in Euroelague. Today they face Unicaja a team that had many problems in the past games, mostly because of the missing players. Leading scorer Marcus Brown, who missed the start of the season with an injury will play tonight and point guard Pepe Sanchez will be also in the squad. Panathinaikos with Tony Delk questionable but still impressive players and always good bench to replace anyone in the main squad.
There is no doubt Panathinaikos deserves to be set as a favourite here, but with Carlos Cabezas (15.3 ppg.), Welsch (15.2 ppg.), Sanchez, Brown and Berni Rodriguez (15.2 ppg.) I think Unicaja have potential to show that they don’t deserve to be set as such underdogs. By the way two of their loses were decided in OT. Panathinaikos is 85/71ppg and Unicaja 78/75
Predicted score 83:77
Unicaja (+10) 6/10
Over 157 4/10
Predicted score 83:77
Unicaja (+10) 6/10
Over 157 4/10
l watched unicaja against olimpija and unicaja show almost nothing.also l think santiago wont score more that 7-8 pts...kasun and marconato will stop him.for brown l can say he is also in bad shape.
and pao with full squad and with great fans...hmmmm....for me looks pao -7.5 just great.
Eldo Napoli announced on Monday the signing of American guard Tyrone Ellis (193, 29). Ellis played with Frankfurt Skyliners of Germany from 2003 to 05 winning the German League in 2004, and Besiktas Istanbul last season. He played seven Euroleague games in 2004-05 with the Skyliners averaging 21.6 points per game, while in the 2005-06 ULEB Cup with Besiktas, he produced for 9.1 points each night.
does this has any value for taking napoli W in hcp?
Predicted score 83:77
Unicaja (+10) 6/10
Over 157 4/10
l watched unicaja against olimpija and unicaja show almost nothing.also l think santiago wont score more that 7-8 pts...kasun and marconato will stop him.for brown l can say he is also in bad shape.
and pao with full squad and with great fans...hmmmm....for me looks pao -7.5 just great.
Yes Puntek..I agree that Pana with full squad in his hot arena is a team to be highly respected but I give a chance to Unicaja with that handicap. By the way...look it this way..maybe we both win..if it ends 8-9 points :idea: :D
Predicted score 83:77
Unicaja (+10) 6/10
Over 157 4/10
l watched unicaja against olimpija and unicaja show almost nothing.also l think santiago wont score more that 7-8 pts...kasun and marconato will stop him.for brown l can say he is also in bad shape.
and pao with full squad and with great fans...hmmmm....for me looks pao -7.5 just great.
Yes Puntek..I agree that Pana with full squad in his hot arena is a team to be highly respected but I give a chance to Unicaja with that handicap. By the way...look it this way..maybe we both win..if it ends 8-9 points :idea: :D
this would be great.
Eldo Napoli announced on Monday the signing of American guard Tyrone Ellis (193, 29). Ellis played with Frankfurt Skyliners of Germany from 2003 to 05 winning the German League in 2004, and Besiktas Istanbul last season. He played seven Euroleague games in 2004-05 with the Skyliners averaging 21.6 points per game, while in the 2005-06 ULEB Cup with Besiktas, he produced for 9.1 points each night.
great info but he will play today or...???
basketipster
23-11-06, 14:47
l watched unicaja against olimpija and unicaja show almost nothing.also l think santiago wont score more that 7-8 pts...kasun and marconato will stop him.for brown l can say he is also in bad shape.
and pao with full squad and with great fans...hmmmm....for me looks pao -7.5 just great.
Ah...Kasun and Marconato play with PAO now? :D :lol
l watched unicaja against olimpija and unicaja show almost nothing.also l think santiago wont score more that 7-8 pts...kasun and marconato will stop him.for brown l can say he is also in bad shape.
and pao with full squad and with great fans...hmmmm....for me looks pao -7.5 just great.
Ah...Kasun and Marconato play with PAO now? :D :lol
sorry l have in mind today barcelona and pao with hendicep so l mess those teams...l mean batiste,tomasevic and company....sorry
Hi basket fans
I read this preview, but one is saying something and the other is denying it, so I still don't know which games I should pick the best...
Tell me!
Hi basket fans
I read this preview, but one is saying something and the other is denying it, so I still don't know which games I should pick the best...
Tell me!
we have today almost all matches with big favorites...so odd on them are to low...so you must look good pick with hendicep....but its one team here where is odd OK...and this team is napoli.l watched them this year twice and they have very good team...specially at home they are very dangerous.its true that orthez play good in eurolegue but l watched table in home champioship and they are very poor.so l think its time to have some bad match also in eurolegue(just like le mans yesterday).and napoli also play better in those days and with fans in back i think napoli will win.
23.11.06 Euroleague: Prokom - Koeln, Our Pick Prokom +3 @ 1.95 Pinnacle Sports
Wow after demolishing Dynamo, loosing to Efes in last minutes and winning with Le Mans Prokom is still the underdog here….amazing. Especially when you have in mind Köln display against TAU. The class difference is obvious here. Prokom is much better team and bookies missed that fact here. We should take them ML for 2.4 odd but we play it safe +3 on Prokom which is really a great pick to us. Prokom lost in the league last weekend and several players got fined including the coach. Great motivation factor to a team that sometimes misses that concentration. Prokom will be fired up today – easy 10 pts win for Polish team.
23.11.06 Euroleague: Prokom - Koeln, Our Pick Prokom +3 @ 1.95 Pinnacle Sports
Wow after demolishing Dynamo, loosing to Efes in last minutes and winning with Le Mans Prokom is still the underdog here….amazing. Especially when you have in mind Köln display against TAU. The class difference is obvious here. Prokom is much better team and bookies missed that fact here. We should take them ML for 2.4 odd but we play it safe +3 on Prokom which is really a great pick to us. Prokom lost in the league last weekend and several players got fined including the coach. Great motivation factor to a team that sometimes misses that concentration. Prokom will be fired up today – easy 10 pts win for Polish team.
yea,this is also very good pick cos prokom is this year very stable team.and if know that koln lost at home with efes for 14 and with tau for 32..yes prokom +3 looks great.
what about prokom to score over 71 points??thx
what about prokom to score over 71 points??thx
spanker said:" easy 10 pts win for Polish team."
so if this will be true than prokom over 71 is winning combination. ;)
kum ruzvelt
23-11-06, 16:26
i think today is value +9 on ulker han,barca played bad lately,they lost vs bruesa at home,and their for is very average,on the other side fener is very good and expirenced squad and they surely can hold on under 9 pts margin..second best pick is koln .they showed exellent performance vs climmamio aw and in front of their supporters they can win over typical "home "team procomm.maccabi also aw for me,their coach neven spahija is well-known cibona and he surely make right tactics for game.
BARCA-FENERBAHCE +9 AW 7/10
KOLN-PROCCOM 6/10 HW
CIBONA-MACCABI AW 7/10
what about prokom to score over 71 points??thx
spanker said:" easy 10 pts win for Polish team."
so if this will be true than prokom over 71 is winning combination. ;)
Well i did say 10 points but last week Prokom allowed 48 points for Dynamo. Not saying that this will be the case here. They play away game and they are more open in away games, with more players scoring in offence. But even with running Olympiakos they didn't get 80 points as i remember.
All in all i like prokom over chances cuz 71 is not that big, but still think +3 is much safer "winning" option. Especially i stick to motivation factor - team was fined for poor display in the league - should have been a wake up call for team with 7million USD budget.
i think today is value +9 on ulker han,barca played bad lately,they lost vs bruesa at home,and their for is very average,on the other side fener is very good and expirenced squad and they surely can hold on under 9 pts margin..second best pick is koln .they showed exellent performance vs climmamio aw and in front of their supporters they can win over typical "home "team procomm.maccabi also aw for me,their coach neven spahija is well-known cibona and he surely make right tactics for game.
BARCA-FENERBAHCE +9 AW 7/10
KOLN-PROCCOM 6/10 HW
CIBONA-MACCABI AW 7/10
about barca....they started againstr bruesa masacring them in frst quarter.what happend then noone expected.i see that barceloan stars felt too comfortable and acted llike a non professionals.they underrated opponents,and paid for it,surely it was huge shock for them,after big lead which they had at beggining.So i think that today barcelona will be fired up,this could be needed shock for them...
fenerbahce has potential to be good,but still they lack of "something" and till now they didnt showed nothing special.Barcelona is obvious huge favourite here,especially when turks doesnt seem to be strong away from home.Handicap is big,but i think that barcelona can win and beat this handicap,but for me this handicap is a no bet,as i expect turks to wake up at last someday (maybe today and they win your handicap bet on them) and start playing what everyone expected from such team.So rather no bet
koln-prokom 84-80(prokom +3-only 1 pt-bet lost)
napoli 77-77(only 1 pt-bet lost)
L CANT BELIVE---GOD WHERE ARE YOU??? :( :( :(
koln-prokom 84-80(prokom +3-only 1 pt-bet lost)
napoli 77-77(only 1 pt-bet lost)
L CANT BELIVE---GOD WHERE ARE YOU??? :( :( :(
I have also Prokom +3 (1 point), CSKA +78,5 (1 point) and VSV win (in last minute 3:3).....that is the truth. But it does not help to be annoyed!! Tomorrow is a new day, and God will again help us all!!
yea new day and l lost all money :(
very very very bad day...
We can't believe in some results, probably the worst day in betting
koln-prokom 84-80(prokom +3-only 1 pt-bet lost)
napoli 77-77(only 1 pt-bet lost)
L CANT BELIVE---GOD WHERE ARE YOU??? :( :( :(
I have also Prokom +3 (1 point), CSKA +78,5 (1 point) and VSV win (in last minute 3:3).....that is the truth. But it does not help to be annoyed!! Tomorrow is a new day, and God will again help us all!!
God has nothing to do with betting. You are not the only one who betted for example on Prokom or Napoli. Somebody surely had a bet on Pau Orthez and Rhein Energie. So why God would help you insteed of helping other ones? Just think about it.
koln-prokom 84-80(prokom +3-only 1 pt-bet lost)
napoli 77-77(only 1 pt-bet lost)
L CANT BELIVE---GOD WHERE ARE YOU??? :( :( :(
I have also Prokom +3 (1 point), CSKA +78,5 (1 point) and VSV win (in last minute 3:3).....that is the truth. But it does not help to be annoyed!! Tomorrow is a new day, and God will again help us all!!
God has nothing to do with betting. You are not the only one who betted for example on Prokom or Napoli. Somebody surely had a bet on Pau Orthez and Rhein Energie. So why God would help you insteed of helping other ones? Just think about it.
totaly agree with you, but when this happens more than often and you lose by 1pt, then the person begins to think about it... but we should forget this week and try to think about new picks
koln-prokom 84-80(prokom +3-only 1 pt-bet lost)
napoli 77-77(only 1 pt-bet lost)
L CANT BELIVE---GOD WHERE ARE YOU??? :( :( :(
I have also Prokom +3 (1 point), CSKA +78,5 (1 point) and VSV win (in last minute 3:3).....that is the truth. But it does not help to be annoyed!! Tomorrow is a new day, and God will again help us all!!
God has nothing to do with betting. You are not the only one who betted for example on Prokom or Napoli. Somebody surely had a bet on Pau Orthez and Rhein Energie. So why God would help you insteed of helping other ones? Just think about it.
you can think as you want but l think as i want...so mind in your bisnes.
again smart nobody.
puntek, maybe you will have something against me writing my opinion? Then first of all see what post I quoted. And my business can be anything in this forum, so you can grow up or except what I write. And I think that no God can help you in betting because there is always other option of the bet in which people just like you bet a money. So if you "allow me what to think", I will allow myself what to write here
puntek, maybe you will have something against me writing my opinion? Then first of all see what post I quoted. And my business can be anything in this forum, so you can grow up or except what I write. And I think that no God can help you in betting because there is always other option of the bet in which people just like you bet a money. So if you "allow me what to think", I will allow myself what to write here
l said that cos this word is saying a lot of times but dont mean for real and if you didnt understand 1st time than is your problem...l am 23 years old and l know what l am talking or writing.
and about this words!!!
"And my business can be anything in this forum",is only in your head.
puntek, seriously, do I have to repeat myself? Once again,look the post I quoted and you will understand who I responded to
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