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Silvio
08-11-06, 00:28
money line
Indiana Pacers +4.5 1.962 2.700 OVER 205.0 1.952
Washington Wizards -4.5 1.943 1.556 UNDER 205.0 1.952

Philadelphia 76ers +2.0 1.962 2.140 OVER 206.5 1.952
Toronto Raptors -2.0 1.943 1.806 UNDER 206.5 1.952

Seattle Supersonics +7.0 1.901 3.400 OVER 211.5 1.952
Orlando Magic -7.0 2.010 1.385 UNDER 211.5 1.952

Charlotte Bobcats +5.5 1.926 2.950 OVER 200.0 1.917
Boston Celtics -5.5 1.980 1.465 UNDER 200.0 1.990

Utah Jazz +2.5 1.943 2.250 OVER 193.0 1.952
New Jersey Nets -2.5 1.962 1.741 UNDER 193.0 1.952

Houston Rockets +2.0 1.952 2.150 OVER 190.0 1.952
Milwaukee Bucks -2.0 1.952 1.800 UNDER 190.0 1.952

Phoenix Suns +6.5 1.962 3.350 OVER 203.5 1.935
San Antonio Spurs -6.5 1.943 1.392 UNDER 203.5 1.971

New York Knicks +10.0 2.010 5.850 OVER 208.0 1.935
Denver Nuggets -10.0 1.901 1.187 UNDER 208.0 1.971

Los Angeles Lakers -4.5 1.917 1.524 OVER 199.0 2.010
Portland Trail Blazers +4.5 1.990 2.780 UNDER 199.0 1.901

Dallas Mavericks +3.0 1.962 2.350 OVER 192.0 1.962
Los Angeles Clippers -3.0 1.943 1.690 UNDER 192.0 1.943

Detroit Pistons +1.5 1.980 2.080 OVER 188.0 1.971
Sacramento Kings -1.5 1.926 1.847 UNDER 188.0 1.935

odds ffrom Pinnacle
away teams listed first

[fin]juuso
08-11-06, 08:39
NBA YTD 5-3 +15.92 units


Philadelphia 76'ers @ Toronto Raptors

Raptors -3 @ 1.952 (Pinnacle) 6 units


This one opened at -1 last night and the spread has quickly moved up. It still qualifies as a strong play to me. Raptors were beaten by a strong Spurs at home 2 days ago, but 76'ers will be a lot easier opponent to bounce back on. I'm expecting Toronto to be a very competitive team in home games this season and 2 days of rest at home should ensure the guys are fresh. Philadelphia had started the season surprisingly well 3-0, but lost yesterday at Indiana. Now playing b2b should have a small effect. 76'ers ain't nothing special and i actually rate Raptors as a slightly better team. 3 points are not much to give in this situation and i'll go with Toronto for a 6 unit play.


GL everyone.

abcde12345
08-11-06, 10:23
Hello

I am new at BA forum
I wonder what do you think about the Mavricks at the Clipers?
Dallas has very bad start of 0-3 this season, will they win first time this season at LA against the Clipers?

The point spread is against Dallas, the bookies set Clipers favorate with 3 points.

I think Dallas +3 is an excellent bet

RakasBets
08-11-06, 11:03
We know that not all of you are able to take this pick in bookies, but for those who can take it, we think that it is one of the best picks today.


1st pick. C. Anthony over 23 @ 1,75



We wrote everything on an earlier preview when we took him over 26 pts. Probably the best pick of the day for today. We all saw his style when he was playing for the USA team, the same was last year in his team and the same should be this year. The young guy shoots as much as he wants, plays around 40 minutes. We are not saying that he is a bad player, but he is not a team player. He is playing for himself, for his stats and is very good as an individual player. Last game’s stats: 13/30 shots, 1/2 3pointer, 1/2 FT (only). His percentage is very low and he shot very few FT’s. Carmelo is a good point machine and knowing that his game should go only better and better from time to time, 23 pts for him shouldn’t be hard. The only thing is that we can’t take player’s over with full stakes as he may get foul trouble, get injured or get 2 technical fouls, but if none of this happens, he should end match with ~30pts easily, hitting at least half of his shots.



Totals and handicaps that we think are worth a try: NY Knicks +10, Orlando Seatle under 211,5, Detroit +1. Dallas +4, Aris +6, Toronto –2.

Silvio
08-11-06, 11:39
Hello

I am new at BA forum
I wonder what do you think about the Mavricks at the Clipers?
Dallas has very bad start of 0-3 this season, will they win first time this season at LA against the Clipers?

The point spread is against Dallas, the bookies set Clipers favorate with 3 points.

I think Dallas +3 is an excellent bet

Josh Howard is out for Dallas, he got injured in 2nd quarter of game versus Golden State. He's one of 3 Mavericks key players (Dirk, Terry) . He'll be out for at least week, probably 2 weeks. Even with him playing I wouldn't go with Mavericks as they censored up me in that Warriors game. They played good offense but defense was terrible. Not fully fit Jason Richardson and Troy Murphy scored 20+ points against them. See scoring by games:
Jason Richardson
15, 8, 11, 22, 6
Troy Murphy
11, 12, 12, 20, 6

Only against Mavs those two dudes scored their usual average and until Mavs show some kind of defence for me in Dallas games there's only:
- no bet
- bet against Mavs
- bet on over.

In that particular order. I mean it for all Dallas games in near future, I don't have time now to analyse tonight's game and maybe change that order for Clippers game. Let's just say Clippers are with full squad.

tennispicks
08-11-06, 14:14
is it good to take kings -1.5? they are the better form team currently while piston isn't.

Attention! From now on, useless questions like this will be removed. If someone has an opinion about a game, he will post it, no need to ask. Especially if it's hardly understandable what you mean. /FiDu

bisti
08-11-06, 14:23
is it good to take kings -1.5? they are the better form team currently while piston isn't.
definately not.
plus queens are without miller

BetOnBasket
08-11-06, 16:40
Phoenix Suns at San Antonio Spurs
Both team offensive power working great in the beginning of the season, SA had one bad night at with Cavaliers when they lost 81-88 but I don't expect the same performance from them today against open-style opponent like Suns are. Phoenix allowing 110 points per game and I don't see them closing Spurs today under 100 points. Line is bit affected by half-court risk game, because Phoenix showed some kind of defense in preseason but today when season have started they started to play mainly relying on their offense, unfortunately they are not successfull looking at winning record which is 1-3 only but Suns already showed that they can improve their game in one night and if they shots are falling into basket they can win anyone. That's why I avoid backing Spurs today but will try over 204.5 because both teams have all offensive weapons to score 100+ points today.

Pick: OVER 204.5 @ 1.943 Pinnacle

NY Knicks at Denver Nuggets
Denver should be really motivated today after 0-2 start, Nuggets knows how to play against Knicks and 3-1 ATS record in last 4 matches tells a lot about this. Bookies set handicap at 10 points mark and this hc is a bit risky to play because Denver is not in optimal condition yet but looking at NY Knicks defense they should score 100+ points today, while Knicks are still in search of their game and Francis loss will give more questions for Knicks coach. How to play against deep Nuggets.

I expect easy game for Denver but result will be done in first half and first half handicap will be my second pick for today.

Pick: 1st Half Line Nuggets (-6.0) @ 1.97

Also I like Washington Wizards at home today. But I will post explanation a bit later on my site (http://www.betonbasket.com).

Wbl
08-11-06, 19:30
I just wanna thanks all guys taking tomorrow posts. If I take a procent of sucessfull posts it would take range from 92-95%. So guys you were that good. My greetings goes to: roven 123, tiger the great, AI, FiDu, Silvio,
Imperial, RakasBets.com, Jig-Jag and all others.



So... just keep it going[/b]

paolodr
08-11-06, 19:47
New Jersey-Utah 193,5 under
Jefferson is questionable for this game. He with Kidd,Carter and Williams, are the best perimeter team in the East. This means that control the tempo of the game. In the paint, except Krstic nobody else can be target for Nets. Against to Toronto they scored 102 points, but against to good defending Miami, just 85.
The Jazz they are very strong this year and if they are healthy, they are making a play off season for sure. They scored over 100 points in all of their games. But 3 out of 4 there were at Utah and just one of those away at Phoenix. They out rebounding their opponents in all of the 4 contest and this are their strong point. The weak part of the team is the two starting guards. Deron Williams and C.J.Miles are inexperience and they would have tough night against the Nets all-stars.
It would be control game and if Carter won't make a fantastic performance, the limit of 193,5 is too high.

Silvio
08-11-06, 19:53
INJURIES

Washington Wizards
Darius Songaila F disk hernia OUT from start RETURNS Early Feb

Indiana Pacers
Sarunas Jasikevicius back *OUT* from 07 Nov QUESTIONABLE
Orien Greene PG Finger OUT from start RETURNS ?

Songaila is first frontcourt bench option, not key player but biggest summer acquisition supposed to strengthen weak Wizards defence. Miss but his out from season start and will be out 3 months more.
Sarunas Jasikevicius dressed but didn't play last game versus Philly after suffering back spasms from lifting luggage at home :roll: . Saras is something like 8th player in deep Indiana roster so he's not big miss. Orien Greene is 3rd PG (or 4th if he count Saras as PG) and not important.



Toronto Raptors
Pape Sow FC Neck OUT from start OUT indefinitely

Philadelphia 76ers
none

With signing of Rasho and drafting Bargnani Pape Sow is not important for Toronto. Sow had neck injury (fracture of the C6 vertebrae, don't know what it means but sounds serious) in summer league practice. He missed playing WC for Senegal, but is recovering well although might miss entire current season.



Orlando Magic
Tony Battie FC knee PROBABLE
J.J. Redick G Back OUT from start QUESTIONABLE
Trevor Ariza F Foot OUT from start BACK 10 Nov or soon after that

Seattle Supersonics
Andreas Glyniadakis C NEW PLAYER
Kareem Rush SG WAIVED
Robert Swift C Knee OUT FOR SEASON

Tony Battie strained his right knee slightly in Monday's practice, but he should be ready to play Wednesday. Tony Battie starts at PF but shares time with Darko Milicic so he's just rotation player, not very important. Orlando expects big things from rookie J.J. Redick but since Grant Hill and Turkoglu are healthy and playing relatively good he's not big miss. Ariza is not missed much, he's supposed only to give some minuts of rest to veteran Hill.
Sonics waived Kareem Rush, injured shooter is not needed in team having Ray Allen and Rashard Lewis and having frontcourt crisis at same time. Swift is out for season, other two centers Petro and Sene are not fully fit, so weak frontcourt is even weaker. I doubt signing of anonymous Greek Glyniadakis will change situation to better.



Boston Celtics
Theo Ratliff C Back OUT from start *BACK* missed all games
Brian Scalabrine PF OUT from start RETURNS probably 10th Nov

Charlotte Bobcats
Primoz Brezec C Illness OUT from start RETURNS Mid Nov
Walter Herrmann F Foot OUT from start RETURNS soon
Alan Anderson GF Foot OUT from start RETURNS soon

Ratliff should strengthen leaking Boston defence, he's backup center for young Karl Perkins(that is performing under expectations BTW). Scalabrine is not important.
Brezec is tired after another busy summer with NT so Bobcats gave him 2 weeks rest. Charlotte frontcourt is deep so it's not big miss as it might look. Herrmann and Anderson are not important, even if they were healthy they would see little or no minutes playing.



New Jersey Nets
Clifford Robinson F BACK from Suspension, after missing all games
Richard Jefferson GF ankle PROBABLE
Eddie House G OUT from start OUT indefinitely
Josh Boone F Shoulder OUT from start RETURNS Late Nov

Utah Jazz
none

Richard Jefferson missed practice on Monday, but is expected to play Wednesday, he plays through an ankle injury for some time now. Unkle Cliffy's return will strengthen thin Nets frontcourt. Eddie House is missed as he's supposed to be 6th man giving some depth to Nets. Quite contrary Boone is anonymous unimportant player.



Milwaukee Bucks
Bobby Simmons F Heel OUT from start RETURNS Mid Nov or later

Houston Rockets
Bob Sura G Knee OUT from start RETURNS Late Nov

Bobby Simmons is starter, but not key player, anyway Milwaukee attack would be better with him than with Ruben Patterson.
Bob Sura is probably retiring soon with chronic injury and even if he plays again he'll be no factor.



San Antonio Spurs
Eric Williams GF Achilles OUT from start RETURNS ?

Phoenix Suns
Sean Marks FC Elbow OUT from start RETURNS ?
Jumaine Jones SF Ankle OUT from start RETURNS ?

Eric Williams is completely unimportant for San Antonio.
Sean Marks and Jumaine Jones are completely unimportant for Phoenix.



Denver Nuggets
Julius Hodge G left foot OUT from start RETURNS ?


New York Knicks
Steve Francis ankle G DOUBTFULL
Jerome James C Foot OUT from start RETURNS soon
Jared Jeffries GF Wrist OUT from start RETURNS Early Dec


Julius Hodge is not important.
Jeffries is starting SF but Knicks are more than deep on that position, moreover Quentin Richardson is deputising him excellent. Jerome James is backup center, not important. Steve Francis is big miss for New York but on SG position where they're covered well so it may turn each way. It is almost sure he's not going to play tonight, but it is uknown when he's back, some sources says he's out indefinitely others thinks he might be ready for next game at Friday. Circumstances of injury are controversial too:
Steve Francis sprained his left ankle and departed from last night's 105-93 loss to the Spurs on a play that will raise doubt about whether it was caused intentionally.
Francis left without speaking to reporters and will be re-evaluated today, the Knicks said. X-rays were negative and there was no timetable for his return.
The injury occurred when Francis went up for a jumper in the first quarter and his left foot came down on Bruce Bowen's right foot. Replays of the incident showed that Bowen inserted his foot underneath the area where Francis would land, and it's not the first time he's done that.
In the past players such as Ray Allen, Vladimir Radmanovic and Vince Carter have accused him of doing it intentionally. He did it once to Carter in Toronto, and there was another incident after Carter joined the Nets. The second time Carter went after Bowen and was ejected from the game.



Los Angeles Lakers
Kwame Brown FC Shoulder OUT from start RETURNS probably 10th Nov
Chris Mihm C Ankle OUT from start RETURNS "no timetable for his return"
Aaron McKie PG Back OUT from start OUT indefinitely

Portland Trail Blazers
Brandon Roy G heel OUT from 08 Nov RETURNS probably 10 Nov
LaMarcus Aldridge F Shoulder OUT from start RETURNS around 15 Nov
Joel Przybilla C Abdominal OUT from 04 Nov RETURNS around 15 Nov
Raef LaFrentz FC Calf OUT from 03 Nov RETURNS around 20 Nov
Darius Miles SF Knee OUT from start OUT indefinitely

Both Lakers first choice centers are out and those are important misses but young Bynum is playing surprisingly good at center and Lamar Odom is playing exceptionally well on power forward position so Lakers are covering fine so far. McKie is backup PG, not very important.
Brandon Roy suffers from pain in heel, MRI revealed an impingement in his left heel, but no major damage. Anyway, Roy was given a cortisone injection to relieve the pain and will be held out of the Lakers game as a precaution and probably return for next game. Darius Miles is good player but nutcase so it's hard to say is he missed or team spirit is better without him. LaMarcus is 2nd pick of this year's draft but not important, he's more "future project". Przybilla is starting center, LaFrentz second PF but are not vey important as Randolph and Magloire plays majority of time. Przybilla actually have funny injury, he was kicked in nuts in game versus Warriors and is out for 3 games now.



Los Angeles Clippers
Aaron Williams C Back OUT from start BACK ?
Zeljko Rebraca C Back OUT from start BACK ?

Dallas Mavericks
Devean George G Stomach OUT from start PROBABLE BACK after missing all games
Josh Howard F ankle OUT from 08 Nov RETURNS 14 Nov or later
Didier Ilunga-Mbenga C Foot OUT from start RETURNS Mid Nov

Not important missings for home team. Rebraca used to be good backup center but with heart problems and other injuries is not anymore. Healthy or not healthy Aaron is useless.
Josh Howard is big miss for Dallas as he's one of key players. Devean George is not of much importance but his return fits well as he and Stackhouse will now try to fill miss of Howard. D. I-M is not important.




Sacramento Kings
Brad Miller C Foot OUT FROM 04 Nov RETURNS 05 Dec. or later

Detroit Pistons
Dale Davis C Hamstring OUT from start RETURNS soon

Brad Miller is one of key players for Kings, but he's form was poor lately compared to previous seasons. So it's miss, but not tragedy.
Dale Davis is fourth frontcourrt options behind Rasheed, Nazr and McDyess so not important.

godspicks
08-11-06, 20:29
Wednesday, November 8, 2006



NBA
Philadelphia-Toronto UNDER 206
With the high total, we can’t help but realize tonight is the type of game that Raptor coach Sam Mitchell said he will grade players—defensively. Mitchell has emphasized slowing down players like the 76ers Allen Iverson and after a humbling performance offensively last night, the Sixers face the rested Raptors.

Philly also has put a higher premium on defense, which was overshadowed by their pinpoint shooting in their first three games, but will come into fruition tonight.

Silvio
08-11-06, 20:33
Toronto Raptors - Philadelphia 76ers Toronto ML @1.67 Betfred 5/10

We have teams of pretty even quality here. And results so far were similar, both teams taking nice wins versus teams from their class, Raptors won Milwaukee 109-92 and Sixers won 105-103 at Orlando, meanwhile winning against weak teams and losing against strong (Philly won Miami, but Shaqless Miami). Usually this would be no bet, but this is back to back game for Philadelphia and 3rd in 4 days while Toronto rested last two days after loss to San Antonio, so Toronto is worth a shot. But main reason for my bet is that coach Maurice Cheeks is making some bad blood again. In Sunday's 107-98 win over Miami he benched second star of team Webber and other frontcourt starter, center Dalembert for entire quarter. In yesterday's loss 96-87 loss at Indiana he benched both players for almost 20 last minutes unsatisfied with their rebounding. Dalmebert is silent, Webber says he's professional and will do everything coach asks so thing seems calm, but I smell volcano under the surface, especially with Webber that once was superstar in Sacramento Kings. Although Toronto roster have more than half new players and they are still not tuned (who knows will they be until end of season with lousy coach as Sam Mitchell is), they're doing fine and I expect it will be enough for Philadelphia that seems to have bad atmopshere in locker room.

FiDu
08-11-06, 21:19
I'm thinking about few bets today.

Pacers seem to be good choice for the price they get. I mean 2.84 for finally healthy team from Indianapolis. yes, wizards are quite unlucky recently, losing by 3 points, yet they still miss some power on the bench. I beleive Jamison will try to handle Harrington while Etan Thomas will cover O'Neal. Still, Pacers have a lot of quality guys coming as replacements, which can pose major troubles to Wizards who depend in 100% on starters.
This is 60-40 game and 2.84 for guests represent value. 3/10.

Philly looks like decent choice if they weren't b2b. I mean - Toronto will sink fast trying to contain AI. Remember what Kobe made to Raptors last year. And AI is similar player.

Losing Francis might be really advantage for Knicks, yet they are so poor it would take me real big magnifying glass to see value in them. However, 211 line is huge here. Bookies expect 111-100 result and I disagree. Nuggets have to start playing some hard D and dominate games on the boards. Knicks is perfect team to use this tactic and Melo is kinda cold so far.

Lakers are good choice, considering Blazers loses Roy, but they are priced awfully low and I doubt I'd take 1.5 for Lakers away even during Shaq+Kobe era.

Clippers have all the aces in their sleeve to win against Dallas. It's not the three loses of Mavs that are issue here, but the manner they lost in. Losing Howard will force Little General to put Stackhouse in the line-up. And Maggette coming from bench on tired Stackhouse might be deadly. Brand and Dirk on equal level, while Dallas really miss depth a bit to cover Livingstone/Cassell.Yes, it's hard to imagine Dallas will start with 0-4, but unfortunately, it is likely to happen. Howeven, odds are set correct here, noone can underestimate Mavs.

Silvio
08-11-06, 21:32
Orlando Magic - Seattle Supersonics Orlando -7.0 @2.00 StanJames 3/10

Orlando is 2-2 so far but somehow dissapointed. Nice wins versus playoff teams Chicago and Washington but losses at weak Atlanta and home loss to not very good Philadelphia are failures, they should be 4-0 if they won two stronger opponents. IMO, reason for that is that Orlando is relying too much on backcourt although they have potential monster in Dwight Howard that destroyed Ben Wallace in first Magic game. I made little table with emphasis on field goals attempted by Orlando players.

FGA FGM FG% Pts
Carlos Arroyo 6.7 9.0 74.1 17.3
Grant Hill 5.3 9.0 58.3 17.0
Jameer Nelson 4.8 8.8 54.3 11.8
Hedo Turkoglu 4.5 12.3 36.7 11.8
Keyon Dooling 3.5 8.3 42.4 9.5
Keith Bogans 1.3 2.8 45.5 4.3
26.1 50.2 71.7

Dwight Howard 4.8 8.0 59.4 14.8
Darko Milicic 3.0 7.5 40.0 7.8
Tony Battie 3.5 5.8 60.9 7.5
11.3 21.3 30.1
So, frontcourt takes about 20 shots per game with 50 shots by backcourt. That's OK if You are Lakers and have no other option, but Magic have 3 (more or less) skillful big players and should call more actions for them. Howard shot only 11 balls in last 2 games and I simply cannot believe Orlando is not going to play on him against Seattle that have no real center (they have 3 solid PF in Wilcox, Collison and Fortson but all undersized to be center). If coach Brian Hill doesn't see it he's an idiot, if in tonight's boxscore we see only 20 shots by home team big men and less than 10 by Howard we will see Seattle win. You can't go in shooting duel with Seattle, You'll probably lose and if You win by some chance win, You'll surely will not win by 8+ points. So I expect Dwight to crush Seattle tonight and I expect another player to star tonight. Big things were expected by PG Jameer Nelson but he's underperforming, morover Puerto Rico native Arroyo (fans favourite, it's Orlando after all :wink:) is outplaying him badly in last two games. If Jameer doesn't play good tonight he knows he's going to bench for next matches so I expect him to fight like a lion.

Seattle is as always Ray Allen, Rashard Lewis and pretty poor supporting cast. Seattle is run&gun, shooting and prety much nothing else, one-dimensional team. Orlando can offer much more versatility plus I expect big games from Howard and Nelson. Magic is capable of destroying Sonics tonight, but I don't know if they are smart enough plus it's start of season, spread is pretty high, so I go with small stake.

FiDu
08-11-06, 21:41
I agree with Silvio in one point - if you wanna bet against Sonics, take spread not ML. However, I disagree in other factor - the bet itself :). I mean - Sonics are a team totally dependant on 3-pointers. Not only Allen and Lewis can hit them like crazy, but Ridnour joined them now. If those 3s start falling in, Sonics can easily ride over Spurs themselves.

Magic failed to contain AI and Joe Johnson. Nothing points they will stop Ray Allen. I wouldn't take that one, but I wish you GL.

Silvio
08-11-06, 21:59
New Jersey Nets - Utah Jazz Utah ML @2.45 4/10 Stan James

Utah is underestimated here. Their 4-0 is not luck, it is good team, they were near playoff last season without Boozer and this season Boozer plays like crazy, like this is his conract year. Nets played only two games so it's kind of hard to know their form. They expectedly won Toronto and somehow too easy felt to struggling Miami. Two things are clear in this game, Kidd and Carter will outplay Utah's backourt Deron Wiilams an CJ Miles by miles, but same will do Boozer and Okur to Krstic and those other guys playing in Nets frontcourt. Normally Richard Jefferson would do better than Kirilenko and Jazz strong bench (Derek Fisher, Harpring, Giricek) would produce more than weak New Jersey bench so it would be close game probably won by home team simply because of home court advantage. But news says that Jefferson have problems with ankle which explains his bad performance in first two games: 13.5 points 33.3% FG and 64.3% FT, compare it with last season's 19.5, 49.3%, 81.2%. So I give edge tonight to Kirlenko over RJeff tonight and only real advantage for Nets being on guards position, big one but only one IMO. I rate this as 49% Nets - 51% Jazz game so 2.40+ odds are something I am not willing to pass on.

Silvio
08-11-06, 22:38
Portland Trail Blazers - Los Angeles Lakers under 195.5 @1.91 Stan James 6/10

Portland is poorest team on West with Zach Randolph being player around they build this team. Good luck. I mean nothing against Zach, he's excellent player and already have good season but almost every team have bigger star or two as focus of their team. Tonight he'll miss 5 of his supporting cast (Brandon Roy, LaMarcus Aldridge, Joel Przybilla, Raef LaFrentz and Darius Miles) so Portland will probably play with 7-man rotation (Jarrett Jack, Juan Dixon, Martell Webster, Jamaal Magloire, Ime Udoka and Travis Outlaw). No big difference between those 6 men in and those 5 out, it's simply not NBA quality (rookie Roy will be good one day, Magloire was great but he's rubbish last two seasons). I see Portland attacking problem tonight not in names of missing players but in reduced material. Out of those 6 healthy players maybe 2 or 3 will have good scoring night but it's not possible 4 or 5 will have good scoring night. If all were healthy maybe 4-5 players among 11 would shine, but no way almost everyone among 6. Zach is capable of 40+ points evening, but not tonight, he'll be matched up with Lamar Odom. Blazers are scoring 94.0 per game, but without game versus Seattle it's 89 ppg, so I cannot see them scoring 90 points tonight. With 89 by Portland Lakers should go for 107 points to make this game over. Second best LA team is scoring 108 points per game, but played Phoenix, twice Seattle and Golden State in their 5 games. All those teams are playing faster, much faster tempo than Portland. Lakers under 100 tonight for my money, especially as Kobe says he's not 100% yet. I see max 188 points in this game.

Silvio
08-11-06, 22:47
I agree with Silvio in one point - if you wanna bet against Sonics, take spread not ML. However, I disagree in other factor - the bet itself :). I mean - Sonics are a team totally dependant on 3-pointers. Not only Allen and Lewis can hit them like crazy, but Ridnour joined them now. If those 3s start falling in, Sonics can easily ride over Spurs themselves.

Magic failed to contain AI and Joe Johnson. Nothing points they will stop Ray Allen. I wouldn't take that one, but I wish you GL.

Good point (AI and JJ), then maybe over is good bet here. If Magic fails to contain Ray plus I expect many "D. Howard dunks - J. Nelson assists" tonight (and home win of course :D ) it should go over 210.

edan217
08-11-06, 23:06
i like 1 bet tonight over 188 in dallas's game ,clipers game averge(both teams) is over 200 points a game ,dallas average is 193
now dallas low scoring games where agianst housten(183) and san antonio (188) both are slow tempo teams and clippers are fast tempo ,when dallas played golden state it ended 208 points .

i will go with the over 4/10

also denver -6 at ht looks really good ,but i will think about it .also like toronto ml .

tiger the great
09-11-06, 00:12
I'm thinking about few bets today.

Pacers seem to be good choice for the price they get. I mean 2.84 for finally healthy team from Indianapolis. yes, wizards are quite unlucky recently, losing by 3 points, yet they still miss some power on the bench. I beleive Jamison will try to handle Harrington while Etan Thomas will cover O'Neal. Still, Pacers have a lot of quality guys coming as replacements, which can pose major troubles to Wizards who depend in 100% on starters.
This is 60-40 game and 2.84 for guests represent value. 3/10.

Philly looks like decent choice if they weren't b2b. I mean - Toronto will sink fast trying to contain AI. Remember what Kobe made to Raptors last year. And AI is similar player.

Losing Francis might be really advantage for Knicks, yet they are so poor it would take me real big magnifying glass to see value in them. However, 211 line is huge here. Bookies expect 111-100 result and I disagree. Nuggets have to start playing some hard D and dominate games on the boards. Knicks is perfect team to use this tactic and Melo is kinda cold so far.




Almost thinking about the same games mate - but I will play just for fun.

Starting with the Pacers game - expect Tinsley holding tight Arenas throughout the whole game - really feel Indiana is turning into the meanest defensive machine Detroit was in the conference,but I choose the under bet here - 1/10(the line is 202)
I see that some people are looking at Toronto's win towards Philly ,but really doubt Iverson playing two weak games in a row(in the middle of the season that is for sure,but now - I really do not know :lol: ) - so be careful with that - Korver and Iguadala enormous three point percentage.NO BET
Absolutely agree at 100 % with the under bet at New York - Denver - I really do not understand why the line is so big - it is true that both teams do not know what defense is :lol: , but without Steve Francis New York's play will be complete chaos - I expect a lot of mistakes.So under 211.1/10
The game that attracted my attention and especially the u/o line (189,5) is the New Jersey - Utah.I rely on over here because Utah with 4-0 and Boozer seem entirely different from the last year team.Kirilenko and Okur on fire,defeating Detroit is not by chance, expect a playoff spot for Utah if there aren't important players injured because the team is really hot.
On the other side - the usuall suspects - Kidd,Carter,Jefferson( hope he will play) and this according to me is the most interesting game tonight.SO OVER 189,5 1/10 (2/3)Good luck!




Edit:What a shame night :oops: - absolutely in favour of my thought,that u/o is very coward because the bookies make the lines perfectly. :oops:

Silvio
09-11-06, 00:55
Al Jefferson is out for Boston Celtics.

Al Jefferson felt ill when he awoke on Wednesday morning and needed emergency surgery to remove his appendix and will miss at least two weeks according to Danny Ainge.

Ryan Gomes will replace Al Jefferson. Ryan did that job great last season, but is in kind of a slump this season.


Still not enough for me to take Charlotte tonight. Certainly it increases chances for Bobcats, but they are bad away team. And capable of falling apart, at Memphis they lost last quarter by 34-11 or something like that, going from double digit win to double digit loss.

tkt
09-11-06, 01:28
Denyver - NY, I have already 213,5 O/U in my book. What's going on? Why is it going higher too fast? Will it go over in this game or what?

paolodr
09-11-06, 08:26
[quote]Ryan Gomes will replace Al Jefferson. Ryan did that job great last season, but is in kind of a slump this season

Gomez record his first career triple double with 10p-12r-10as. But instead his performance and 35points by Pierce and Wally, Celtics blew a 10 points lead in the last 1:21 min. In overtime Delonte West hit a 2p open wide with the buzzer.

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