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Rhein Energie Kln - Tau Ceramica Baskonia 08.11.06 20:15 4,20 1,20
Pau Orthez - CSKA Moscow 08.11.06 20:30 3,60 1,25
DKV Joventut - Partizan Belgrad 08.11.06 20:45 1,20 4,20
Benetton Treviso - Fenerbahce Ulker 08.11.06 20:45 1,30 3,20
Eldo Napoli - Aris TT Bank 08.11.06 20:45 1,30 3,20
Olimpija Ljubljana - Panathinaikos Athen 08.11.06 21:30 3,60 1,25
l never saw so "favorite day"...l think all favorites will win...its to much differnt in quality and on experience.
but as always more infos are always welcome.
Koln-Tau ... 2
In German champ Koln has 6-1, home 2-1 and road 4-0
Tau 7-0 in Spanish champ, home 3-0, 4-0 road.
Koln is Eu newcomer, coach Sasa Obradovic, TAU is better team, coach Velimir Perasovic, Scola, Planinic, Erdogan, Rako***269;evi***263;... an edge on TAU.
Pau Orthez - CSKA ... 2
Pau had weakless starting games /French champ/
rec 4-5, home 3-1 and 1-4 on the road... last game Toulon-Pau Ort 89-85
again one bad weekend for PAU.
CSKA... EU champion for 2005... it's enough!
Joventut - Partizan ... 2
Joventut lost the last game with Caja SF while Partizan had wondefull play with Maccabi... I think I'll bet on Partizan.
Benneton - Ulker ... 1/2
two mediocre teams... bad surprise, Benenton has only 2-1 at home and 1-2 on the road in Italian champ!!
PAU Orth defeated last weekend Ulker in Istanbul... it's totaly opened...
Napoli - ARIS ... 2
I don't beleive in Napoli today, only Browne as a guard and ...?
ARIS has the better team, more better with AbdulRAuf, Fletcher, Sigalas, Castle and a very good coach Andrea Mazzon.
Napoli in Italian champ 2-0 at home, 1-3 on the road.
Olimpija - Panathinaikos ... 2
with all my respect to Olimpija, I think Panath have deeper roster, Obradovic as a coach, excellent positions Becirovic, Delk, Sisakuskas, Dikoudis, Javtokas... 4-1 in Grrece champ, 101-56 last win...
Koln-Tau ... 2
In German champ Koln has 4-4, home 3-0 and road 1-4
Tau 4-2 in Spanish champ, home 3-0, 1-2 road.
Koln is Eu newcomer, coach Sasa Obradovic, TAU is better team, coach Velimir Perasovic, Scola, Planinic, Erdogan, Rako***269;evi***263;... an edge on TAU.
Joventut - Partizan ... 2
Joventut lost the last game with Caja SF while Partizan had wondefull play with Maccabi... I think I'll bet on Partizan.
Benneton - Ulker ... 1/2
two mediocre teams... bad surprise, Benenton has only 2-1 at home and 0-3 on the road in Italian champ!!
PAU Orth defeated last weekend Ulker in Istanbul... it's totaly opened...
Where did you find that ***. TAU is the best team in ACB without doubt at the moment. They have 6-0 record. Also, Partizan is just home team, i don`t believe them in beating Joventut, which has also good team. At last, Ulker has no chance against Benneton and stats is wrong again. Where did you fint this ****.
olimpija had problems with injuries(jurkovic and arslan) and now also ozbolt is injured(on of the best players)...all 3 wont play against panathinaikos and thats why panathinaikos will win much easier.
only plus for olimpija is full hall but full hall wont mean a lot in this match cos pao is too strong for young olimpija.
Where did you find that ***. TAU is the best team in ACB without doubt at the moment. They have 6-0 record. Also, Partizan is just home team, i don`t believe them in beating Joventut, which has also good team. At last, Ulker has no chance against Benneton and stats is wrong again. Where did you fint this ****.
Yeah, and agree about Partizan. They can be backed maybe in home games, but away from home in this competition....never.
hardy_bad_boy
07-11-06, 08:55
is it true that Sao Obolt won't play against PAN? if it's true than it will be much more easier for PAN to cover the given spread -8
is it true that Sao Obolt won't play against PAN? if it's true than it will be much more easier for PAN to cover the given spread -8
ozbolt is 100% out but maybe will be back arslan and jurkovic.
Is it true, that Smodis injured in CSKA Moscow?
Euroleague fantasy webpage marks him with red cross.
And it doesn't mark Ozbolt with red cross.
I know this site is not "official", but I trust in them.
So any news about there injuries?
If Ozbolt won't play, and also Ender, n form Olimpija has really no chance vs big gun Panathinaikos.
Koln-Tau ... 2
In German champ Koln has 4-4, home 3-0 and road 1-4
Tau 4-2 in Spanish champ, home 3-0, 1-2 road.
Koln is Eu newcomer, coach Sasa Obradovic, TAU is better team, coach Velimir Perasovic, Scola, Planinic, Erdogan, Rako***269;evi***263;... an edge on TAU.
Joventut - Partizan ... 2
Joventut lost the last game with Caja SF while Partizan had wondefull play with Maccabi... I think I'll bet on Partizan.
Benneton - Ulker ... 1/2
two mediocre teams... bad surprise, Benenton has only 2-1 at home and 0-3 on the road in Italian champ!!
PAU Orth defeated last weekend Ulker in Istanbul... it's totaly opened...
Where did you find that ***. TAU is the best team in ACB without doubt at the moment. They have 6-0 record. Also, Partizan is just home team, i don`t believe them in beating Joventut, which has also good team. At last, Ulker has no chance against Benneton and stats is wrong again. Where did you fint this ****.
Ok, buddy don't be nervous... see that--->
http://www.betexplorer.com/basketball/spain/spanish-basketball-league-men-2006-2007/
Ulker has no chance against Benneton??? Can U explain this?
Is it true, that Smodis injured in CSKA Moscow?
Euroleague fantasy webpage marks him with red cross.
And it doesn't mark Ozbolt with red cross.
I know this site is not "official", but I trust in them.
So any news about there injuries?
If Ozbolt won't play, and also Ender, n form Olimpija has really no chance vs big gun Panathinaikos.
From official Euroleague page :
"Matjaz Smodis and Tomas Van den Spiegel did not fly to France while last year's Final Four MVP Theodoros Papaloukas is also questionable for this game"...
So maybe +8,5 for Pau is not bad as they lost with Barca with only 6 points and won with ulker away.
Koln-Tau ... 2
In German champ Koln has 4-4, home 3-0 and road 1-4
Tau 4-2 in Spanish champ, home 3-0, 1-2 road.
Koln is Eu newcomer, coach Sasa Obradovic, TAU is better team, coach Velimir Perasovic, Scola, Planinic, Erdogan, Rako***269;evi***263;... an edge on TAU.
Joventut - Partizan ... 2
Joventut lost the last game with Caja SF while Partizan had wondefull play with Maccabi... I think I'll bet on Partizan.
Benneton - Ulker ... 1/2
two mediocre teams... bad surprise, Benenton has only 2-1 at home and 0-3 on the road in Italian champ!!
PAU Orth defeated last weekend Ulker in Istanbul... it's totaly opened...
Where did you find that ***. TAU is the best team in ACB without doubt at the moment. They have 6-0 record. Also, Partizan is just home team, i don`t believe them in beating Joventut, which has also good team. At last, Ulker has no chance against Benneton and stats is wrong again. Where did you fint this ****.
Ok, buddy don't be nervous... see that--->
http://www.betexplorer.com/basketball/spain/spanish-basketball-league-men-2006-2007/
Ulker has no chance against Benneton??? Can U explain this?
check this table mate http://www.acb.com/resulcla.php
TAU is 7-0 in ACB
Ok, buddy don't be nervous... see that--->
http://www.betexplorer.com/basketball/spain/spanish-basketball-league-men-2006-2007/
this is wrong...tau has 7-0 and barca 5-2...they just made mistake.
kum ruzvelt
07-11-06, 15:16
rhein energie is veru unexperienced team they first apperance in euiroleague,i think strong tau will beat them easily at least 10 pts margine.cska also looks banker aw with orthez.partizan i wiil stay away..they preety unpredictable this season...pao also looks clear awvs an average team of olimpija..
i think their is some value on Ulker +8 , they have very good players even more better than bentton's ... but the problem is that this team cant play togther everbody who gets the ball just shot and shot and dont care they dont used to play togther and every1 doing whats he want so they lose big time at the end ... but i dont think it will be forever its must end and i feel its the right time now becouz bentton not in form .....
i'm just thinking now if to stake medium or high will decide after will see more opinions ...
Ulker has no chance against Benneton??? Can U explain this?
Benneton is very good at home, we can say they are home team. And it is huge advantage that the game is playing in Italy. Not big Benneton Arena as i remember about 5,000 seats. Very good atmopshere and players feel it. Benneton play with spirit on their homecourt. On the other hand, Ulker and Fenerbache is the same now, but they play worse than last year singly. I don`t know why, but their playing sucks now. Anyway, odds are low and i am still thinking what to bet in this match or don`t bet at all. Maybe Kambala over, Kutluay under or Nelson under
is it true that Sao Obolt won't play against PAN? if it's true than it will be much more easier for PAN to cover the given spread -8
ozbolt is 100% out but maybe will be back arslan and jurkovic.
Well now it's 100% sure that Olimpija will be without Obolt, Arslan and Jurkovi***269; (and ofcourse Zupan). Last two didn't got doctor's permission and they are not 100% ready so coach Gaper Okorn don't want to risk anything. Instead of Obolt and Arslan will play ***268;ebular and Hohler-2 young players.
Hala Tivoli will be full (tickets are almost sold out) and this is the only positive side from Ljubljana today :D . And as we all know...in full Hala Olimpija is hardly losing but with the problems they have and when we look how strong is panathinaikos this year....
For me really small bet on Olimpija (3/10) because i still believe that this players are capable to win any team that comes in FULL Hala Tivoli. In this year they have already reached ''ground zero'' and now form is raising up (2 wins in a row...last one in Bosna 78-69). New coach motivated players and he said that this match will be the easiest match in whole season because the players and he don't feel any pressure and they've got nothing too lose.
Panathinaikos players are not worth of my words :twisted: fantastic team with fantstic coach but as i said...everything is possible in tivoli :P
Majstor Zivota
07-11-06, 22:38
Elcid help!
What do you think, can PAO smash Olimpija in Ljubljana??? PAO has much better team then the hosts. Plus, Ender Arslan, Ivica Jurkovic, and Saso Ozbolt are injured. Ozbolt was great in matc against Roma... In local we have -8.5 on PAO.
Elcid help!
What do you think, can PAO smash Olimpija in Ljubljana??? PAO has much better team then the hosts. Plus, Ender Arslan, Ivica Jurkovic, and Saso Ozbolt are injured. Ozbolt was great in matc against Roma... In local we have -8.5 on PAO.
It would be logical that PAO wins by more than 10 points, but Olimpija is in an uptrend. Milic found his game against Bosna. Without any pressure and with domestic fans, Olimpija can make problems to PAO.
I don't think Olimpija can win... but for the handicap who knows...
Eldo Napoli - Aris TT Bank 08.11.06 20:45 1,30 3,20
Napoli is a team who score realy easy at home,also Aris had some good shooter,OVER is posible more than Napoli,but I think they will take first win at home.6/10
CSKA -7,they have injury problems Smodis and Van Den Spiegel are out,but they still have powerfull team.Defence is there weapon for tonight,Pau have chance only if they would have great %.
Pau-Orthez head coach :
"It is a great honor to play against Moscow. This is an opportunity to face the Euroleague champion and maybe the best team in the world, with a famous coach and very gifted players. It will be a great and exciting moment for the club, and I hope that we will be proud of this and we will do the maximum to prevent the expected result. This game is a true test for us to evaluate our level. Moscow is a compilation of great players, who make basketball look easy with their talent and cleverness."
After this words I can only take CSKA to win
CSKA.7/10
Tau play will have hard game vs Koln,because Koln have good athletes,some fake power forwards who can score 3pts,made layups and play one on one.This will be game with a lot defence and tactics play,full court pressing,zones...UNDER 148 is better of away -8 win.
UNDER 148 7/10
Pao -9,if we compare players of both teams,ofcorce that Pao have better team,I belive they will take this game seriously,and show how much they are strong,but -9 I don't know,better is UNDER 155
UNDER 155 7/10
Olympija-PAO: PAO aren't in perfect shape (they are actually far from that, in my opinion), they are unstable, and a strong team with a hot court can challenge them for a long period in the game at this moment. But, maybe not Olympija till the end and probably not without so many players. Esp after Ozbolt's absence I'm thinking of taking the visitors on HC, but I'm still sceptical about their concentration for the whole duration of the game, and Olympija don't also look a team which gives up, at least at their home. Maybe we should wait till tomorrow.
Something else which I have noticed: I recall that PAO's ex-Yugo players have a strange tradition, when PAO play in their homeland, they are performing very good. Vrankovic and Radja did so when PAO played Cibona, Bodiroga and Scepanovic did so when PAO played Partizan or Buducnost, I think Lakovic was the exception when PAO played at Krka a few yrs back, but maybe tomorrow Becirovic gets this tradition back on track. He has had some problems recently, coz he was used as PG and was rather weak, but tomorrow his motivation for a good perfomance in his land will be bigger, and as Vujanic is soon coming back, probably Obradovic will stop experimenting (besides, he has seen already what he wanted to see), and use him in his normal position, where Sani is far more dangerous. I don't see any bookie having this special bet about Becirovic' points, though, so only in locals I guess, for those who have locals...
Janger, what tells you that CSKA will have an easy win? I mean, the thing that Orthez' coach expressed his admiration about the reigning champions, means that they will surrender easily? Usually, it means the contrary, and you see teams playing with much more passion against famous opponents.
Koln-Tau ... 2
In German champ Koln has 6-1, home 2-1 and road 4-0
Tau 7-0 in Spanish champ, home 3-0, 4-0 road.
Koln is Eu newcomer, coach Sasa Obradovic, TAU is better team, coach Velimir Perasovic, Scola, Planinic, Erdogan, Rako***269;evi***263;... an edge on TAU.
please think about it that Kln wont play at home!They will play in Dsseldorf 30 kms away from here!
So it wont be a home match!More a match on neutral venue!
Kutulay 17 TOTAL is not so high for Benneton game? maybe under is good choise?
Panatha_for_ever
08-11-06, 01:33
OLIMPIA-PANATHINAIKOS
Panathinaikos is one of the best teams in europe this year as i wrote many times..but pao need some time because new players are not ready yet toplay as obradovic wants...especially delk is out of form until now,becirovic is clearly out of form,siskauskas is starting game by game to play better and better and javtokas is completely out of the team until now because is not playing much time...pao is playing with the old players like diamantidis,hatzivrettas,batist and dikoudis who knows very wellthe greek game..pao needs time that is sure and u will see that every game will play better and better...
They have the fight spirit in their blood especially diamantidis who is the start and the end of this team...look the games with badalona and olympiakos and u will understand what i mean...
Obradovic is a very clever coach imo the best coach in europe right now and i am sure that willpush the players very soon to give the 1000% of their skills...
I dont think that pao will face any big problems tomorrow against olimpia and that will take an easy win...especially now because olimpia has 3 absences for tomorrow game...i an sure that mistakes like badalona wont take place tomorrow and that pao will push the home side from the first minute...i dont think that olimpia is a team to handle pao's defence and especially tohandle great diamantidis...
I am very confident that if pao takeseriously the game from the first untilthe last minute wont face any problem tomorrow and that the (-8.5)handicap for tomorrow is very small...
I know very well that olimpia has a very hot home ground but not for teams like pao...
so i will take
AWAY WIN 10/10
AWAY WIN (-8.5) 8/10
Joventut - Partizan ... 2
Joventut lost the last game with Caja SF while Partizan had wondefull play with Maccabi... I think I'll bet on Partizan.
I am not sure about this one. I watch Partizan for years . They simple can't win away. Partizan had near 70% for 3pts against Macabi . That will not happend again.
ElCid,the style of Pau play in defence tell me that CSKA wouldn't have any problems in ofence,but I'm shure and belive CSKA play strong from the first min,LNB is a league with teams who don't prefer so much tough D,also there is so many athletes,most popular moves are dunks,some crazy shots,I mean they copy NBA style but on low level.
One more thing they are not dominate in LNB like last years(records 4-5),last lose was vs Toulon,they lead by 15,but at the end they lose.Toulon is not strong team,only 2 wins at home.
Reason why I give only :lol: 7/10 is injury problems in CSKA,they stil have deep sqaud.
About Pao in Tivoli,I agree with you,Obradovic will prepare his team well with this battle.Big teams show there best in "hot court".
DKV Joventut will look for before the Partizan the first victory in house
The DKV Joventut confronts 3ª day of the Euroliga with the objective to obtain the first victory in their field. For it, it will have to surpass to the Partizan of Belgrade, in an encounter that Aito technician Garci'a Reneses thinks that it will be very difficult.
Badalona (Barcelona), 7 nov. 2006 (EFE). - The DKV Joventut will look for his tomorrow first victory in house in the Euroliga, for which it needs to defeat to the Partizan of Belgrade in this third day of competition, after falling in first before the Panathinaikos.
The Penya recovered of that defeat winning the last week in Malaga to the Unicaja and being placed in the third position of the group, that allows the badalonesa group to confront with much greater confidence the rest of this first stage.
The DKV Joventut has trained today and A*to Garci'a Reneses has been able to count on all its cash, except with Robert Archibald, who will follow low morning by annoyances. Yes Dmytri Flis will be able to play, that in the last divided of the ACB in front of the Box San Fernando was injured in the ankle.
Loss of Archibald is significant, since the power of the DKV Joventut is based on the great intensity that it prints to the game, which causes a great physical wearing down, reason why A*to makes constants rotations that will resist of this absence and the problems of Flis.
Indeed, one of the greater dangers of the Serbian set is the presence in its rows of Predrag Drobnjak. The ex- ones of the TAU did a broken one to him to the DKV Joventut when it visited Badalona and it made possible the victory of the equipment of Vitoria.
The Partizan is a very young picture and all their players are of Serbian nationality, with the exception of the American base Vonteego Cummings, that forms next to already mentioned Drobnjak the lethal pair of stars of an equipment that, like the Penya, has won until now one of both started off disputed in this Euroliga.
On the morning encounter, A*to has indicated that it sees "a difficult duel, because the rival, with the exception of Drobnjak, does not have very well-known players in the European basketball, but of course they are very high players, very good".
One of the preoccupations of A*to Garci'a Reneses the answer of the dark-green public (who in the first party did not fill the Palau although the equipment returned to the Maxima European competition after 11 years of absence.
"the Ol*mpic is very great. For example, Malaga twelve thousand spectators enter and here thirteen thousands fit, but five thousands only come. Truth is that it is a difficult subject, but at the same time is important, since players feel good when is atmosphere strong in pavilion, although with that not I am saying that fault is of public, but ours, that we are those that we must be to top independently of which there are zero fans ", indicated.
On the other hand, the base Elmer Bennett has assured that, "tomorrow will be seen the equipment that all are customary to see, to which fights much and that has a very high level of game. Tomorrow there is a party before a typical Yugoslav set with young players and talent ".
The American considers that it is not difficult to play two as demanding competitions as the ACB and the Euroliga. "For me he is not it. I am customary to play important parties, he is just as he is between week or no. Each encounter you can lose it, for that reason it is necessary to be prepared to both confront with guarantees matches in which we are ".
Translate from ACB
The Ceramic TAU does not want to trust their duel with the Rhein Energie
The technician of the Ceramic TAU Velimir Perasovic does not want to trust and remembers the obligatory nature to win in the party that will measure to the vitoriano set with the Rhein German Energie in the third day of the Euroliga. The party will gamble in German earth the next Wednesday
Vitoria, 7 nov. 2006 (EFE). - The Ceramic TAU will tomorrow confront in the German city of Dusseldorf the party corresponding to the third day of the Euroliga (Group ' Á, first stage) with the obligation of not failing, in spite of the losses of Sergi Vidal and Tiago Splitter.
The artroscopia which Sergi eaves will be put under east Thursday in Vitoria Vidal, by the equipment of the traumatólogo Mikel Sanchez, prevented to at noon travel of today to the baloncestista badalonés until German earth.
On the other hand, although until one trusted that tomorrow the Hispanic-Brazilian pivot Splitter could reappear before the Rhein Energie of Colony, finally the doctors yesterday and the technical body of the Tau has decided on all the opposite, to avoid that it falls of his lumbalgia, with which the player of Joinville (Brazil also remained today in the Alava capital.
Velimir Perasovic, preinn of the vitoriano set, already alerted, in the antev*spera of the shock against the Rhein Energie Colony, about the necessity of "not trusting minimum" before combined teutón.
Although those of Sasa Obradovic left defeated in both started off disputed to date in the first continental match, before rivals like the Dynamo of Moscow and the Efes Pilsen of Istambul, the concentration and the defensive rigor will have to be the two major keys not to be surprised in the appointment of Dusseldorf.
"the Rhein Energie Colony is an equipment very ' americanizadó, since their main players are American (Marcus Fasison, Immanuel McElroy and Ronald Burrell), without forgetting other two men the east of Europe, as they are estonio Janar Talts and the Pole Marcin Gortat", the baskonista technician expressed.
"Our adversary of this Wednesday in Dusseldorf looks itself much like the Bamberg of the last season, since he has a style of game with much intensity and aggressiveness in his actions on the field, reason why, if my equipment is not well, can receive a good blow", added Perasovic.
Finally, the person in charge of the baskonista bench insisted on which the Rhein Energie Colony "always fights" and has " athletic" players, reason for more being used with greater concentration and intensity in the defensive tasks if she is that the Ceramic Tau wants to go out winner the shock against the Germanic combined one.
from ACB
Joventut - Partizan ... 2
Joventut lost the last game with Caja SF while Partizan had wondefull play with Maccabi... I think I'll bet on Partizan.
I am not sure about this one. I watch Partizan for years . They simple can't win away. Partizan had near 70% for 3pts against Macabi . That will not happend again.
Ok. It's really.
I'll take Koln-TAU 2, Orthez-CSKA 2 and Olimpija-Panathin 2... that's all for today.
I am not sure about this one. I watch Partizan for years . They simple can't win away. Partizan had near 70% for 3pts against Macabi . That will not happend again.
After the sale of Dejan Milojevic, Partizan look much better to me.With players like Milojevic, they have never looked competitive enough.He's not a bad player though, but he's good for the national league only.Something like Tomasevic who has never been the man for some big matches(even in the national team he was impressive only against mediocre opponents)...At the moment, Partizan are much sharper, more confident and surely they're capable of beating Juventut who're nothing special IMO!I've seen this team a couple of times and they're simply not the level of Tau, Barca,...Well beatable and at this price Partizan are definitely worth of shot tonight.Especially after a very strong performances in the recent weeks!
YourMoneies
08-11-06, 11:20
Event: Eldo Napoli 0-2 (ITA) - Aris TT Bank 1-1 (GRE)
Place: Napoli , Italy
Date: 08/11/2006
Time: 19.45 GMT Time
Sports: Basketball
Tournament: Euroleague
Round: Robin
Comments: Sincerely I do not succeed to understand this line, the Aris has begun the season really much good, in the Greek League (HEBA) is in the first position (4-1) with the Pao and also in Euroleague it is making much good, having beat the Ulker and having lost fighting against the great Cska.
It is a team without great individualities, but much compact and for sure solid, with IMO one of the best defense of this Euroleague and I believe that it has all the means in order to make match at pari against this Naples.
The Italian team is not in a good moment and IMO is much little team regarding the Greeks, is a team who bases its game on the offence with spectacular players as Trepagnier, Brown, Sesay and Morandais... but little regular and therefore much discontinuous.
At the moment Naples inspires little confidence, little solidity and the fact that can be worth 1,40 IMO is an invention.
Therefore I go with confidence, especially in the HP on the Greeks, hoping that it will repeat the performances of the pasts weeks..
Prediction: HP +6.0 - Aris TT Bank To Win
Bookmaker: Pinnaclesports.com
Odds: 1.943
Stakes: 1.5/2.5
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Prediction: Moneylines - Aris TT Bank To Win
Bookmaker: Pinnaclesports.com
Odds: 3.20
Stakes: 0.5/2.5
GL
YourMoneies
For those who have this pick in local or international bookie we would advise this pick:
2nd pick. Marcus Goree (Benneton) under 17 @ 1,80
As weve mentioned it before, the handicaps and the totals are set correctly for todays matches in Euroleague and it is hard to suggest anything from the teams, so we will advice one more player total today. This guy is averaging 19pts in Euroleague and ~11pts in Legabasket. He had two good matches in Euroleague this season and his percentage was great. It has to stop sometime as we all well know that 55,5% from the 3 point line is too good for him and 77% 2 pointers are too much for him too, but that is not the main reason! The main reason is that he will be playing against Turkcan and this guy can make problems for anybody when he is playing defense. On general we think we may have an unexpected result here in Benneton Ulker game and the away team may take a win here, but it is too hard to take HC or total so we are taking Goree under.
Good luck!
BetOnBasket
08-11-06, 13:47
Olimpija - PAO
Without 3 very important players Saso Ozbolt, Ivica Jurkovi***1089; and Arslan I expect Union Olimpija to have tough life in offense against great PAO defence. Till now PAO defence allowed to score 74 points only twice when Joventud scored 79 points (27 of them were scored in 1st quarter, in other 3 quarters PAO allowed only 17.3 per quarter), and AEK managed to score 80 points (25 of them in last quarter when PAO stopped playing in defence). So as we see PAO allowed more than 73 points only in 6 of 8 played official games, while their real defensive mark is about 67 points. Ozbolt injury will be really difficult to compensate for slovenian team because he is their best three point shooter and without him in the squad I don't see Olimpija scoring more than 68 points. The only man who can show some kind of magic today in Olimpija it is Darko Milic but I expect Obradovic to find a solution for him in defence because in general Darko is not stable players and struggles in hard games.
All in one I expect greek club defense to prevail today against Olimpija offense and this will help Obradovic team to get comfortable win against dangerous but injury troubled slovenian team.
Pick: Olimpja Under73.5
Olimpija - PAO
Without 3 very important players Saso Ozbolt, Ivica Jurkovi***1089; and Arslan I expect Union Olimpija to have tough life in offense against great PAO defence. Till now PAO defence allowed to score 74 points only twice when Joventud scored 79 points (27 of them were scored in 1st quarter, in other 3 quarters PAO allowed only 17.3 per quarter), and AEK managed to score 80 points (25 of them in last quarter when PAO stopped playing in defence). So as we see PAO allowed more than 73 points only in 6 of 8 played official games, while their real defensive mark is about 67 points. Ozbolt injury will be really difficult to compensate for slovenian team because he is their best three point shooter and without him in the squad I don't see Olimpija scoring more than 68 points. The only man who can show some kind of magic today in Olimpija it is Darko Milic but I expect Obradovic to find a solution for him in defence because in general Darko is not stable players and struggles in hard games.
All in one I expect greek club defense to prevail today against Olimpija offense and this will help Obradovic team to get comfortable win against dangerous but injury troubled slovenian team.
Pick: Olimpja Under73.5
It is Marko Milic and Darko Milicic... :wink:
I am not sure about this one. I watch Partizan for years . They simple can't win away. Partizan had near 70% for 3pts against Macabi . That will not happend again.
After the sale of Dejan Milojevic, Partizan look much better to me.With players like Milojevic, they have never looked competitive enough.He's not a bad player though, but he's good for the national league only.Something like Tomasevic who has never been the man for some big matches(even in the national team he was impressive only against mediocre opponents)...At the moment, Partizan are much sharper, more confident and surely they're capable of beating Juventut who're nothing special IMO!I've seen this team a couple of times and they're simply not the level of Tau, Barca,...Well beatable and at this price Partizan are definitely worth of shot tonight.Especially after a very strong performances in the recent weeks!
Yes, it was a real mistery for me too, how Milojevic was making those incredible indexes, MVP of the round after round, while his team was losing.
However, it's a bit unfair calling him a player for regional league only, as he is now repeating those splendid performances in the strongest league in Europe.
I'm not taking Partizan, not against a team who could lead pao by 20, and still waiting for the opening home win.
Olimpija - PAO
Pick: Olimpja Under73.5
can you write also the book and the odds please?
Olimpija - PAO
Pick: Olimpja Under73.5
can you write also the book and the odds please?
You have it on SportingB at 1.775 now.
You have it on SportingB at 1.775 now.
thank you
Olimpija - PAO
Pick: Olimpja Under73.5
can you write also the book and the odds please?
You have it on SportingB at 1.775 now.
also good under 73 BWIN 1,85
Fenerbahce Ulker Under 69,5
If I follow the results from the Turkish basketball league where Fenerbahce scores more than 80 points per game, then this would be a crazy bet. But the reason why I picked under for this team it is the play in Euroleague competition. It seems that this team hasn't find it's game yet to participate on the level of the Euroleague quality.
Aris-Fenerbahce 66:58
Fenerbahce-Pau Orthez 66:68
First of all I think that Fenerbahce will try to slow down the tempo and will try to make more space for Kutlay in offense.
Individualy in the team only Kutlay (with 18 points per game) and maybe Kambala (12 ppg) and Solomon (10 ppg) can be threat for shooting more points tonight but I think that Benetton without Richie Frahm, will make Zisis and Lyday to spend most of the minutes at both guard spots, of course with Matt Santangelo when neccessary to come off the bench. I trust the agressive defense of Benetton tonight that wont let the average team of Fenerbahce to score more than 69,5.
GL
Agree with Strand about Milojevic, no way he's a weak player. Simply, Drobnjak is much better defender which they gained a lot with, and Partizan play much better as a team now, while earlier they were completely relying on Milojevic.
Interesting to mention Partizan suffered 20 consecutive defeats away from home in Euroleague games. I'm sure they'll break the streak this season, but where?
David Andersen 11 pts OVER is good choise? any info about him? Spiegel & Smodis out...Anersen have more minutes to play?Pau orthez front line is strong?
Partizan will lose tonight for sure. Simply, they play well at home and thanks for that goes to fans which are beside they players all 40 minutes! When they play away, they play sucks, which they show as againts Lotomatica! They have all fit players, starting five should be:
Cammings
Tripkovic
Kecman
Perovic
Drobnjak
About Joventut I don't know much, but a have seen them few times and they are very good team!
Joventut-Partizan, pick 1 withaout handicap
and with handicap 8 on Partizan
Agree with Strand about Milojevic, no way he's a weak player. Simply, Drobnjak is much better defender which they gained a lot with, and Partizan play much better as a team now, while earlier they were completely relying on Milojevic.
Interesting to mention Partizan suffered 20 consecutive defeats away from home in Euroleague games. I'm sure they'll break the streak this season, but where?
In Zagreb against Cibona :)
David Andersen 11 pts OVER is good choise? any info about him? Spiegel & Smodis out...Anersen have more minutes to play?Pau orthez front line is strong?
hom many pts have becirovic?
l am asking cos becirovic always play great in tivoli(his home court).last year as l remember good he score around 20 pts when climamio play in tivoli.
and with those big miss in cska(both are centers or wing centers) l think andersen over is very close.
In Zagreb against Cibona :)they can only dream about it :D
The Gravedigger
08-11-06, 19:27
5 posts here goes to Milojevic who is not even playing this competetion :roll: and 5 more on where Partizan will win first away match after 20 matches without away win :? (it will be Ljubljana if you ask me 8) ).
moneycompany
08-11-06, 19:57
5 posts here goes to Milojevic who is not even playing this competetion :roll: and 5 more on where Partizan will win first away match after 20 matches without away win :? (it will be Ljubljana if you ask me 8) ).
You mean Olimpija??? No they will never bet us. :evil: :!:
Pau is so bad in Lnb in french, they count on this euroleague to rebound.
They make a very good match very Barcelona, at home they can be very " hot " !
Hard for win, but +8.5 Pau really good bet :wink:
anyone have EB Pau-Orthez- CSKA Moscow livestream?
Pau is so bad in Lnb in french, they count on this euroleague to rebound.
They make a very good match very Barcelona, at home they can be very " hot " !
Hard for win, but +8.5 Pau really good bet :wink:
Historic !!!!!!!!!!! 1st lose for CSKA since start of the season :) .
Great match of Pau, CSKA was leading by 9 pts in the 3rd quarter :o
GReat thanks to all, especially I must say that Strand has great knowledge and intuition in EL... :wink:
I have to say today was good day, only 1 pick made and 1 pick won. Olimpia game went under. $$$$$$$$$$
You know what? I really think now that Partizan is not that far from their first win away from home...
(They just need to poison their opponents before the match and the win is there...)
You know what? I really think now that Partizan is not that far from their first win away from home...
(They just need to poison their opponents before the match and the win is there...)
Problem of Partizan away seems to be that they don't fight when they're losing. they give up early and that results in such big differences in the end.
So much turnovers... Cummings and Tripkovic will have the Euroleague record...
jojozastal
09-11-06, 11:56
hi any news about cibona-malaga game ? because my one of local bookie closed bets on thi match :/
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