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1st pick. Atletas over 69 – Tartu Rock @ 1,85 Triobet
On our opinion the handicap is much too low, but our pick will probably be Atletas over in this game – Atletas 69+. Kaunas team got many bad words this season and there are many reasons for that. The results they are showing is very very very bad, but they are playing tomorrow at their home court and the main thing is that they now have Lukminas, and one more good thing is that he gets many minutes and many shoots, and that is what he needs. He needs the coach and his teammates to support him and trust him. And there is no doubt he will shoot many 3pointers. The team still has many problems and many players and coaches admit that, but with the support of Lukminas I think they can surely score over 70 pts in Sports Hall, which is good for 3pointers. Tartu Rock has a good team this year and more offensive team. They showed that in some previous matches, but we also saw that defense is not at the end for them, but we think it will be many 3pointers in this game and hope that they will be hit.
We expect here an over match, so Atletas 69+ is our choice.
Good luck!
I would take -15,5 handicap instead. Just don't like that over, because it can be under again. But well, today all games were unders, so tomorrow it will be over... :lol: At least 99% possibility that your pick will make money... :D
I would take -15,5 handicap instead. Just don't like that over, because it can be under again. But well, today all games were unders, so tomorrow it will be over... :lol: At least 99% possibility that your pick will make money... :D
so you estimate Atletas over 69 is 1.01 -> 99% ?
I would take -15,5 handicap instead. Just don't like that over, because it can be under again. But well, today all games were unders, so tomorrow it will be over... :lol: At least 99% possibility that your pick will make money... :D
so you estimate Atletas over 69 is 1.01 -> 99% ?
Would pick over 151(line was close somewhere).
well we have -11 for tartu in local and still thinking to take ir not, but maybe one pick will be enough for this game
I had +16 in local!!! IMO worth to take!!! Any opinions??? If Tartu still withaout their best player....
I had +16 in local!!! IMO worth to take!!! Any opinions??? If Tartu still withaout their best player....
I think it's worth it, because it won't be a high margin win for Tartu, remember they are playing away and they won't score as much as in home games... Also Atletas over 69 looks real good...!
I had +16 in local!!! IMO worth to take!!! Any opinions??? If Tartu still withaout their best player....
Be very carefull. Of course it is your choice, but i would rather take Rock -11 or even -15,5. But it is only my opinion. Rock are facing Atletas (a team that lost by 84 pts margin a couple of days ago), so...
I think I will bet on straight Tartu win. I was impressed by Lukminas performance last time, which almost earned victory for Atletas. Handicapp can be very tricky here.
But as I believe Tartu will win. Would be good any infos about this team before start of event(injuries etc).
Thnx for opinions!!! One from Esti, one from Lithuania... :lol: I'll take Over 149,5 in local... 8) But only for fun....2/10!!!
Thnx for opinions!!! One from Esti, one from Lithuania... :lol: I'll take Over 149,5 in local... 8) But only for fun....2/10!!!
I'm not estonian. I'm hungarian. However both nations are finno-ugarian. :)
My pick today:
Rock under 83.50 total points. Rock averages only 67,5 points in away games and hasn't shot over 83 points in any game this season. IMO this line is too high 8O And I will take this bet with medium stakes.
My pick today:
Rock under 83.50 total points. Rock averages only 67,5 points in away games and hasn't shot over 83 points in any game this season. IMO this line is too high 8O And I will take this bet with medium stakes.
You didn`t see Atletas playing, did you? They are very poor and, IMO they will lose this game for sure. And HC(-10) is the best choice here. And that 83,5 isn`t too much
My pick today:
Rock under 83.50 total points. Rock averages only 67,5 points in away games and hasn't shot over 83 points in any game this season. IMO this line is too high 8O And I will take this bet with medium stakes.
You didn`t see Atletas playing, did you? They are very poor and, IMO they will lose this game for sure. And HC(-10) is the best choice here. And that 83,5 isn`t too much
what is more, atletas always concede more that 83 pts. Also, Rock won twice against Nevezis and Panevezys which are more stronger than atletas. Tartu lost against 2 strongest teams in latvia. I think Atletas has no chance here not to lose lower than 10
My pick today:
Rock under 83.50 total points. Rock averages only 67,5 points in away games and hasn't shot over 83 points in any game this season. IMO this line is too high 8O And I will take this bet with medium stakes.
You didn`t see Atletas playing, did you? They are very poor and, IMO they will lose this game for sure. And HC(-10) is the best choice here. And that 83,5 isn`t too much
what is more, atletas always concede more that 83 pts. Also, Rock won twice against Nevezis and Panevezys which are more stronger than atletas. Tartu lost against 2 strongest teams in latvia. I think Atletas has no chance here not to lose lower than 10
OK let's forget this pick, but I don't know where to get -10 handicap... :roll:
You didn`t see Atletas playing, did you? They are very poor and, IMO they will lose this game for sure. And HC(-10) is the best choice here. And that 83,5 isn`t too much
Expekt offers -15.5
Bwin offers -12.5
Topsport offers -10.5.
For me, till now Topsport has always been more "intelligent" than Bwin and Expekt for HC in BBL Basket ball !
So is there some information Topsport knows and Expekt doesn't ?
Or is it just a different appreciation of a situation hard to appreciate (it is not everyday that a team loses by 84 in a professionnal competition)
(12 posts for a BBL game between end of ranking teams, congrats to you baltic mates...yes even if I live near Vilnius I am...french)
My pick today:
Rock under 83.50 total points. Rock averages only 67,5 points in away games and hasn't shot over 83 points in any game this season. IMO this line is too high 8O And I will take this bet with medium stakes.
You didn`t see Atletas playing, did you? They are very poor and, IMO they will lose this game for sure. And HC(-10) is the best choice here. And that 83,5 isn`t too much
what is more, atletas always concede more that 83 pts. Also, Rock won twice against Nevezis and Panevezys which are more stronger than atletas. Tartu lost against 2 strongest teams in latvia. I think Atletas has no chance here not to lose lower than 10
OK let's forget this pick, but I don't know where to get -10 handicap... :roll:
sorry, i forgot that line is 16,5 in Your local... :oops: I have -10 in one of local and it is the best pick for this game. Also, i`ll take AW with 1,17 in Combo.
Be carefull with this game in Topsport. The owner - Staniulis isn't an idiot. On my eyes Rock-10 is a real gift, but can't understand why the HC is so low... Topsport even gives totals after HT (35-40), so.... Even over 151 looks very good (as i already took Atletas over 69).
I'll wait a little bit and maybe take Rock-10, but still, i will try to find out what is going on here with these odds.
Our final comment - before the mtach.
P.S. it has just changed in two locals in Lithuania to -13 for rock (it was -11 before), so -10 could be the choice for sure, but still....
P.S. it has just changed in two locals in Lithuania to -13 for rock (it was -11 before), so -10 could be the choice for sure, but still....
they can`t know something what we don`t. Staniulis is just owner as i know, so he haven`t power to set Handicap. It is low handicap and i advice you to take it. as i have montioned before, i bet on AW with maximum stakes and good odds about 1,17. Maybe it sounds funny, but i see here value because the odds should be 1,08
A crucial information should be if Tribe on Atletas side and Kullamäe for Rock are available for todays game. IMO both teams have short benches and both players are important. If Topsport has some information about it maybe that could be the reason for the low hc.
A crucial information should be if Tribe on Atletas side and Kullamäe for Rock are available for todays game. IMO both teams have short benches and both players are important. If Topsport has some information about it maybe that could be the reason for the low hc.
After reflexion, I think that it was difficult for every bookie to evaluate HC because Atletas first lost bt 84 and then lost by a little 9 points against not so bad Nevezys.
I think bookies took this last game as a reference.
After maybe that Staniulis and Lukminas (both from Kaunas) crossed in the street and had a onversation :
Staniulis : "hey man what HC should I propose for your next game : - 60 for Tartu or - 80 ?
Lukminas (vexed) : "propose -10, everybody will go with Tartu -10. By my side I will do my best to make all those who are with Tartu -10 loose their money and you give me 25 % of your gains in this operations..."
Who knows...world of basket is tiny in Lithuania...
Guys be serious.It's basketball game and nothing to do with such a bookies as topsport.
Guys be serious.It's basketball game and nothing to do with such a bookies as topsport.
But I was serious. When betting you must take into account everything !
Topsport is located S Dariaus ir S Gireno gatve 31a
Atletas gym is S.Dariaus ir S.Gireno Basketball Arena (same gym of Zalgiris I suppose)
All that to say that Topsport has maybe informations, or more probably feelings that Expekt does not have for example...
And as I am not lithuanian but live here (and bet on BBL and LKL) I want to have every info available.
As a conclusion : for me no bet on ML or HC, only O151.5
GL to all
Personally I, know that there were such things in Lithuanian basketball (with Atletas team) before and I'm not sure if it has something to do with it today, but there is something strange about this game for sure. It is only my opinion, but I will stay with the only pick - Atletas over 69.
If we think logical - Atletas will be fighting for sure and trying to do their best (their best would be not to loose by more than 20) and Tartu has got quality players that are beter than Atletas for sure (they can fight even against Kalev). So Atletas has good 3pointers so they can score around 70-80 points. Rock is a much better team and can win more than 10 or 11 pts for sure, so they should score around 90 pts), so it should end smth like 75-93. That would be my logical thinking, but you'll never know how it will end...
(Staniulis, Lukminas, Kavoliunas (Atletas manager) and many other guys - they know each other very well and sometimes things happen there).
Well that is our final comment about this game and it will be very interesting how it will end.
@Balatoto
Just to support your conspiracy theory: Topsport manager Staniulis is a former Atletas player. :D
And more: As far as I remember during the 90's Staniulis played one season for Zalgiris and guess who were his teammates? Right, Lukminas and Kullamäe... :D
But to be serious, what is the aim of the bookmaker? It is not the prediction of games because this would include gambling. But bookmakers are not interested in gambling. They set the lines to get a more or less equal amount of money on both sides and win by their margin.
@Balatoto
Just to support your conspiracy theory: Topsport manager Staniulis is a former Atletas player. :D
And more: As far as I remember during the 90's Staniulis played one season for Zalgiris and guess who were his teammates? Right, Lukminas and Kullamäe... :D
But to be serious, what is the aim of the bookmaker? It is not the prediction of games because this would include gambling. But bookmakers are not interested in gambling. They set the lines to get a more or less equal amount of money on both sides and win by their margin.
Actually this way they get a much bigger amount on Rock -10... That's why it is suspicious.
Very interesting result.
I checked the squads before match, and Lukminas wasn't included. So I took Tartu with high stakes, even handicapp too.
Then as the match went forward, I noticed Lukminas plays under the name of Trakimas (!?).
Then the referees. Of course I followed the match not on TV, but only online, but Tartu got many faults. "Half" of the team fouled out at HT, and there were many technical faults.
Very interesting match. I would say cheating.
Hoping to get some more infos about this event from Baltic members.
I'm very angry now, and wants to get some answer, how could happen, that a very bad team can win against a quite good by high margin.
I don't know where you look but lukminas sure should play.About fauls:i didn't follow all games,but from both teams players get many fauls.
On the other hand you are right.smth strange here. 10bet and pinna removed this match jsut before the game.
Good we bet over and atletas +15.5
Let me know where you saw lukminas was out of the game :?:
What I am hearing from the floor, is that corrupt Lithuanian referees totally screwed up Rock, whistling hell ofa lot fouls in the first half and even more absurd turnovers second half.
I hope it will be investigated by Lithuanian police, when there were lot of bets on Atletas. I think there were.
Hearing Rock is DEFINITELY gonna protest the result and game may be played again.
stelmahers
18-10-06, 21:19
To be honest even those stupid Lithuanian referees are not an excuse to lose to such team as Atletas by 15 points. Even with referees against them, Rock should win a team like that.
I don't know where you look but lukminas sure should play.About fauls:i didn't follow all games,but from both teams players get many fauls.
On the other hand you are right.smth strange here. 10bet and pinna removed this match jsut before the game.
Good we bet over and atletas +15.5
Let me know where you saw lukminas was out of the game :?:
Dear mate, check my post carefully. Lukminas was not included in squad by SEB BBL homepage, then when match started, I noticed, Lukminas played under name of certain Trakimas. I don't know who is he anyway.
About stats, that homepage indicated Müürsepp with no points. And he scored more than 10. That's all.
Very interesting result.
I checked the squads before match, and Lukminas wasn't included. So I took Tartu with high stakes, even handicapp too.
Then as the match went forward, I noticed Lukminas plays under the name of Trakimas (!?).
Then the referees. Of course I followed the match not on TV, but only online, but Tartu got many faults. "Half" of the team fouled out at HT, and there were many technical faults.
Very interesting match. I would say cheating.
Hoping to get some more infos about this event from Baltic members.
I'm very angry now, and wants to get some answer, how could happen, that a very bad team can win against a quite good by high margin.
A FIXED MATCH???? 8O :evil:
To me it only looks that those stupid referees fixed this match for a home win... :roll:
i lost my money and that`s all. there couldn`t be any fix in this game
Very interesting result.
I checked the squads before match, and Lukminas wasn't included. So I took Tartu with high stakes, even handicapp too.
Then as the match went forward, I noticed Lukminas plays under the name of Trakimas (!?).
Then the referees. Of course I followed the match not on TV, but only online, but Tartu got many faults. "Half" of the team fouled out at HT, and there were many technical faults.
Very interesting match. I would say cheating.
Hoping to get some more infos about this event from Baltic members.
I'm very angry now, and wants to get some answer, how could happen, that a very bad team can win against a quite good by high margin.
A FIXED MATCH???? 8O :evil:
To me it only looks that those stupid referees fixed this match for a home win... :roll:
I meant the referees. And shame on the webpage, which gave wrong info about line ups!!!! I won't believe in it anymore.
stelmahers
18-10-06, 23:53
Don't worry, there's no match fixing. Just the crisis of Estonian basketball. Even Rock coaches admitted in the interviews after the game that the reason wasn't referees, but themselves.
Well, just as we mentioned before, the game between Atletas and Tartu Rock was very strange and the result was really surprising. Glad that we managed to take the winning pick and offered you an over in that game too, so we hope some of you made profit out of this pick. Atletas scored well over 69, hitting most their 3pointers (their main gun) and scoring 94!
Will try to give one pick for today's Italy league or NBA preseason. :wink:
Good luck!
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