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Olympiakos BC v Panathinaikos A
well we up for this big match i'm looking for good priview i just dont get 1 thing...
why odds on pana droping so fast already -3.5 on bet10
and Oly should be even the better team this year with new players new cohoce everthing is new , anywayz mayb there are many things inside that i dont know so i'm looking for info about this game @ squads or something thanks for sharing any good info...
BetOnBasket
27-09-06, 09:31
Olympiakos BC v Panathinaikos A
well we up for this big match i'm looking for good priview i just dont get 1 thing...
why odds on pana droping so fast already -3.5 on bet10
and Oly should be even the better team this year with new players new cohoce everthing is new , anywayz mayb there are many things inside that i dont know so i'm looking for info about this game @ squads or something thanks for sharing any good info...
macijauskas is injured for Olympiacos (out for 4 months), Mulaomerovic signed to replace him but anyway Olympiacos have too much new players and new coach and seems that they still need to find their game style.
While PAO have only few new signings, the same coach, deeper and in my eyes better bench comparing to Oly bench.
So seems that PAO is a correct favorite here and odds about 1.75 for PAO win are worth to try.
BetOnBasket
27-09-06, 09:36
match without fans..
why?
match without fans..
why?
I think Olympiakos was suspended for their fans misbehavior during the finals of last seasons. No fans at the game for sure
http://img134.imageshack.us/img134/2899/screenhunter001yp1.png
imo panionios and panellinios has very good prices for betting.they are playing with second division teams and in outright prices they are going to be 7. and 8. teams in 1.league
i now that there is 2 matches for qualifying is it right?
From Homepage Panathinaikos:
http://www.paobc.gr/en/news.asp?news_id=591
Match without fans!!
T.Delk is is doubtful for Panathinaikos!!
I think Pana wins the Match...(ML 1,80 IW)
Olympiakos 2.10 to win Panathinaikos? I believe that is a gift! And i will explain why.
First of all Panathinaikos this year is not the same as last year.They lost Spanoulis (NBA).......this is a big loss.Also they lost Lakovic..........another big loss.So for playmaker they have now only Diamantidis.After Diamantidis.........chaos.In this game Tony Delk (NBAer) will probably not play due to an injurie.
Olympiakos form the other hand has a big loss today.Machigiauskas is injured and will not play for the next 4 months.
Olympiakos is 100% different team than last year and of course 100% better team.Bookies understimated Olympiakos for todays match and despite miss of the fans i believe that today Olympiakos is a better team than Panathinaikos even without Machigiauskas.
Also Panellinios is a good choice for today.
Olympia Larisa - Makedonikos Alfa
Is this the same Makedonikos, who lost in ULEB final to Rytas a few yers ago?
Secondly, 24 pt handicap for them isn't to big or i don't know something?
I forgot to wrote that today Vujanic will not play for Panathinaikos and Sisauskas is doubtful.....And we are lucky because we will watch a great match without fans.Otherwise with full of fans and when i remember what happened last year at last match between Panathinaikos - Olympiakos i doubt if were funs today the match had a good end......
Olympiakos 2.10 to win Panathinaikos? I believe that is a gift! And i will explain why.
First of all Panathinaikos this year is not the same as last year.They lost Spanoulis (NBA).......this is a big loss.Also they lost Lakovic..........another big loss.So for playmaker they have now only Diamantidis.After Diamantidis.........chaos.In this game Tony Delk (NBAer) will probably not play due to an injurie.
Olympiakos form the other hand has a big loss today.Machigiauskas is injured and will not play for the next 4 months.
Olympiakos is 100% different team than last year and of course 100% better team.Bookies understimated Olympiakos for todays match and despite miss of the fans i believe that today Olympiakos is a better team than Panathinaikos even without Machigiauskas.
Also Panellinios is a good choice for today.
Macijauskas, not Machigiauskas :?
Sorry mate!
No problem, maybe you can say something about Larisa - Makedonikos game?
The only thing that i know so far is that Makedonikos had lost a lot of players last year, they still looking for players and they have financial problems.Larissa is a better team.I hope i helped you.
Makedonikos had big organizal problems and as I know they will play today with semi-amateur squad, only juniors and some 'who-are-they-?!' foreign players but as I've seen, it was really fatal squad so Larissa should trash them.
About PAO - don't know what to think about, Olympiakos with Zizic Penn Schortsanitis or Domercant seems to be powerful but PAO is PAO... If Siskauskas play, loss of Lakovic and Spanoulis shouldn't be too painful. No bet match for me but PAO should be better side today because they are team. Domercant, Penn - OK they are great but Penn have to be main star to show his skills.
Gershon wants to make Maccabi from Olympiakos - get as many snipers as possible and let them shooting. It isn't the best way to beat PAO.
olympiakara1931
27-09-06, 14:29
Sorry mate!
No problem, maybe you can say something about Larisa - Makedonikos game?
Makedonikos will field a team of young players/teenagers....
i dont know how good they are though.... :roll:
Makedonikos had big organizal problems and as I know they will play today with semi-amateur squad, only juniors and some 'who-are-they-?!' foreign players but as I've seen, it was really fatal squad so Larissa should trash them.
Yes, that's the case, Olympia big favourites and will win, although I don't expect such a big thrashing, like in Eginiakos-Iraklis game (same conditions, and margin went ~ 50), as both teams are in same division, and Olympia wouldn't want to create bad relations with Makedonikos (they might "need" their help somewhere...-but that's just my view).
A small-medium staked bet might be worth for Olympiada Patron, a very organised team, and PAOK don't have yet their starters PG and C. The hosts will fight as they are enthusiastic with their presence in A1, PAOK still under the shock of losing Mulaomerovic to Olympiacos, well odds above 2.60 for ML worth a good shot for me.
I forgot to wrote that today Vujanic will not play for Panathinaikos and Sisauskas is doubtful.....
Siska will play, Vujanic out till November, Delk is 50-50. On Olympiacos, Mulaomerovic and Zizic in, only Macas out.
Are these games have a livescore?
OLY-PAO 1 2.10 BAW 6/10
For me Oly is more ready than PAO,thay have played more friendly games and against stronger teams than PAO and exept Macijauskas don't have other injury problems.PAO lost his best guards and scorers,Spanoulis and Lakovic,and is wrong to say that siska,toni delk and sani can replace them right now,in their first game and the worst is that siska and toni are after injury problems.In the paint things looks equal but in the perimeter I expekt Oly better than PAO.Diamantidis is more tired than other players (playing 35 minutes in every game in JAPAN).Gerson is playing a run and gun game and will be very hard for PAO to contrll the rythme,if they can then will have a close score,if they don't then Oly will win esy.That's my opinion.
Other bet of mine is PAO<70.5% FREE THROWS BAW 6/10
With Dikoudis,Tomasevis and Jaftokas they can't be >70% :lol: :lol:
GL
[quote="Nobody"]Are these games have a livescore?[/quote
When the games beginns...
http://www.galanissportsdata.com/default.htm
Lacovic is not a player to remember...average in most games and loser generally,panathinaikos played recently in a tournament here in cyprus,i didnt like them,i think olympiakos is in better shape at the moment my pick is
Olympiakos to win
good luck forum :wink:
as i wrote i another topic
GUYS WAKE UP!
Only lakovic and spanoulis are losses.
BUT PAO signed Tony Delk, Sani Becirovic, Siskauskas, Milos Vujanic and Jaftokas and DIkoudis
THOSE 6 players can win by themselfes OLympiakos.
And not counting the old palyers like batist, diamantidis etc.
So... i cannot see how you can compare those two teams!
Maybe you can compare the present form of the teams, which is ok and maybe Olympiakos is better, or even much much better, but an overall comparison is rediculous
Is there any livescore for the games?
Thanks
http://www.sport24.gr/html/ent/767/ent.141767.asp
http://www.sportime.gr/lives_inside.asp?article_id=476
any english livescore?
:D i cannot understand them or can u give the scores of panellinios or panioinos matches
17.00 ***922;***959;***955;***959;***963;***963;***972;***962; ***929;***972;***948;***959;***965;-***928;***945;***957;***949;***955;***955;***942;***957;***953;***959;***962;: 57-35 (28')
17.00 ***929;***941;***952;***965;***956;***957;***959;-***928;***945;***957;***953;***974;***957;***953;***959;***962;: 56-53 (29')
first is Panellinios, second is Panionios
btw, Olympia-Makedonikos youth team 146-47 FT :!:
From Homepage Panathinaikos:
http://www.paobc.gr/en/news.asp?news_id=591
Match without fans!!
T.Delk is is doubtful for Panathinaikos!!
I think Pana wins the Match...(ML 1,80 IW)
FT: 71:79 Panathinaikos :D :D
No, it's Olympiada-PAOK 64-69 FT
OSFP-PAO still playing, 39-35 HT
imo panionios and panellinios has very good prices for betting.they are playing with second division teams and in outright prices they are going to be 7. and 8. teams in 1.league
i now that there is 2 matches for qualifying is it right?2lost s**t :(
Other bet of mine is PAO<70.5% FREE THROWS BAW 6/10
With Dikoudis,Tomasevis and Jaftokas they can't be >70% :lol: :lol:
GL
Could not find any stats but from an article at eurobasket.com I could understand your bet (and mine also, after your advice) won. thanks!
eb.com:
One of the major issues of the specific game was the amazing percentage of the Greens from the free throw line, they were really very bad, they loose 14 free throws!! The quarters were: 22-23, 39-35, 58-55 and the final 71-79
PAO's free throws :29/45
Tomasevis :6/11 :lol: :lol: ,Dikoudis2/2,Jaftokas didn't play,Diamantidis 3/6,Siska 4/6,Batiste 4/6.
PAO managed to controll the rythme and didn't let Oly to run,zone diffence was very good and DIAMANTIDISshowed why he is one of the best players in Europe.From OLy Pen looks to little for a team wich want to win Euroleague,fortunatelly for them is that they managed to sign Mula and have a second good solution and a very experince player.Hope in one month teams will be in better shape to watch a better game.
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